Diesel #1 blending
Rocky
with #2 but do the know the rules for blending?
I found this info and now I'd like to know why.
Tips & Warnings
If you're using ultra-low sulfur No. 2 diesel in your car, you should
only blend it with ultra-low sulfur No. 1 diesel in cold weather.
Doing otherwise could cause your car to smoke heavily and produce more
emissions. It could also damage your car's engine.
http://www.ehow.com/m/how_2188564_blend-number-1-diesel-diesel.html
It might just be for the newer cars and trucks I hope.
Rocky - with an 83 gallons out of 210 blend.
Rocky
Oh yeah Diesel #1 sucks on fuel mileage and I also found out today
another Tanker Company says no more than 30% blend.
Rocky
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
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What idiot would "blend" diesel fuel?
I fill mine with whatever pump I can get to.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
I fill mine with whatever pump I can get to.<<<<<<<
Someone, as a joke told him to blend his fuel and he is really doing it.
Wait until it ruins something in the engine and when the mechanic takes it
apart, he notices #1 Diesel in the fuel.
The nitwit will be looking for ANOTHER job.
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"Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Since Diesel #1 cost more than Diesel #2 people recommend to blend it
> with #2 but do the know the rules for blending?
>
> I found this info and now I'd like to know why.
>
> Tips & Warnings
>
> If you're using ultra-low sulfur No. 2 diesel in your car, you should
> only blend it with ultra-low sulfur No. 1 diesel in cold weather.
> Doing otherwise could cause your car to smoke heavily and produce more
> emissions. It could also damage your car's engine.
>
> http://www.ehow.com/m/how_2188564_blend-number-1-diesel-diesel.html
>
> It might just be for the newer cars and trucks I hope.
>
> Rocky - with an 83 gallons out of 210 blend.
Rocky
"JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message .......What idiot would
> "blend" diesel fuel?
> I fill mine with whatever pump I can get to.<<<<<<<
>
> Someone, as a joke told him to blend his fuel and he is really doing it.
> Wait until it ruins something in the engine and when the mechanic takes it
> apart, he notices #1 Diesel in the fuel.
> The nitwit will be looking for ANOTHER job.
I never blended fuel in my old 10 speed and it kicked out a lot of black
smoke the last time I drove it.
I have blended Diesel #1 and Diesel #2 once in an 18 speed truck that
doesn't kick out any black smoke and I'm still waiting to see if it starts
to kick out black smoke.
Plus, more than one person told me about blending #1 and #2. The only
difference being one person said use 50% and the other person said never
above 30%.
BTW I have certainly learned one thing about using Diesel #1 after using it.
Diesel #1 gets rotten fuel mileage in my 18 speed truck.
Now stop being anal Jerry and stop feeding the Troll Doug Jerry.
Rocky
JerryD(upstateNY)
(people probably don't even know what they are talking about)
So you are risking ruining a $50,000 engine by messing with something you
know nothing about.
I'll bet your employer would love to know about this.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
Zeke
> You know nothing about blending fuel except what some people told you.
> (people probably don't even know what they are talking about)
> So you are risking ruining a $50,000 engine by messing with something you
> know nothing about.
> I'll bet your employer would love to know about this.
>
especially when it wasn't even cold enough to consider doing it.
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"Zeke" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
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>
> "JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:hg2ugl$gdl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > You know nothing
>
First, you probably know about Diesel Blending since it is colder where you
are at so why are you feeding the Trolls that don't know about Diesel
Blending?
Second, I might not have been using Diesel #2 to start with since I had
fueled last at a place that has been known to sell B11. If you know about
B11 then you know it can freeze up before Diesel #2 and it was cold enough
for B11 to be a problem.
And since the cold weather around here turned cold very fast then truckstops
might not have put enough additive in their fuel. Besides, once my truck
was started it ran ruff for quite some time as if the fuel might have
started to freeze.
BTW I would have just put additive in the tank but I left the additive I
bought in the 10 speed I used to drive. Plus that additive might have hurt
the motor in the 10 speed since the 10 speed is the one that kicks out a lot
of black smoke.
Rocky - still in a 470 HP 18 speed.
JerryD(upstateNY)
to........ or "I drove the Freight-shaker to........
Rocky says stuff like....... I left the 10 speed at the shop and drove the
18 speed to get it fueled up with kerosene, and while I was there, I told
everyone within earshot that I was driving an 18 speed.
If the biggest thing you can brag about is driving an 18 speed, you are
hopeless.
Jerry........who can think of a lot of things I could brag about.......but
don't.
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Rocky
>
> I'll bet your employer would love to know about this.
Who do you think told me where to buy Diesel #1 you Idiot?
FYI the World's largest truckstop in Walcott, Iowa does not sell Diesel #1
even though it has pumps that are labeled "Diesel #1" so there is no way for
me to buy Diesel #1 locally.
http://iowa80truckstop.com
Rocky - given an 18 speed to drive on his 4th year anniversary
Zeke
>
> Second, I might not have been using Diesel #2 to start with since I had
> fueled last at a place that has been known to sell B11. If you know about
> B11 then you know it can freeze up before Diesel #2 and it was cold enough
> for B11 to be a problem.
A real driver would not fall for the biodiesel scam since they know it
contains less energy than normal diesel fuel. And a smart operator would
never use it this time of year anyway. A smart driver would have seen this
storm coming long before it arrived and would have planned accordingly.
>
> And since the cold weather around here turned cold very fast then
> truckstops
> might not have put enough additive in their fuel. Besides, once my truck
> was started it ran ruff for quite some time as if the fuel might have
> started to freeze.
Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
>
> BTW I would have just put additive in the tank but I left the additive I
> bought in the 10 speed I used to drive. Plus that additive might have
> hurt
> the motor in the 10 speed since the 10 speed is the one that kicks out a
> lot
> of black smoke.
That smoke has nothing to do with what transmission it's attatched to, it
says more about the drivers lack of skill in not being able to choose the
correct gear for the speed they are running.
>
Zeke - Who has driven a 21 speed long ago but is now relaxing in the hotel
room, waiting for his DD15 500/560 to arrive in a truck with less than 45K
miles on it while chuckling to himself as Rocktard makes excuses for
potentially damaging an already worn out engine (assuming that Rocktard even
drives a truck).
Rocky
>
> If the biggest thing you can brag about is driving an 18 speed, you are
> hopeless.
Would you be impressed if I told you the 18 speed I'm currently assigned to
does not have a governor? BTW I'm not telling you anything I'm only asking
you a question.
Rocky - learned Jerry the Troll freaks when someone post "18 speed"
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
>
> "JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:hg347j$2b8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> If the biggest thing you can brag about is driving an 18 speed, you are
>> hopeless.
>
> Would you be impressed if
Not if you could shoot gold bricks out your ass.
Rocky
"Zeke" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
>
> A real driver would not fall for the biodiesel scam since they know it
> contains less energy than normal diesel fuel.
Very true but biodiesel has something that cuts down on friction so you end
up with better fuel mileage in the long run and when running biodiesel your
motor sounds more like a car engine than a diesel engine so there is an
obvious difference.
> And a smart operator would
> never use it this time of year anyway. A smart driver would have seen
this
> storm coming long before it arrived and would have planned accordingly.
Agreed but you could still state what you would have done since you haver
certainly dealt with colder weather than I have.
> Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
whatever
> That smoke has nothing to do with what transmission it's attached to, it
> says more about the drivers lack of skill in not being able to choose the
> correct gear for the speed they are running.
Oh bull because it didn't always kick out black smoke. I might have started
to kick out black smoke when I started using fuel additive last year.
> Zeke - waiting for his DD15 500/560 to arrive in a truck.
"waiting?" That sounds like fun. not
And if it is your DD15 then why are you waiting for it?
http://www.detroitdiesel.com/engines/DD15
Plus I know you have posted earlier that your truck is governed to sub 80 so
why brag about a truck that is so slow?
Rocky
Zeke
>
>
> Very true but biodiesel has something that cuts down on friction so you
> end
> up with better fuel mileage in the long run and when running biodiesel
> your
> motor sounds more like a car engine than a diesel engine so there is an
> obvious difference.
Are you saying that your truck uses biodiesel for a lubricant intead of oil?
>
> Oh bull because it didn't always kick out black smoke. I might have
> started
> to kick out black smoke when I started using fuel additive last year.
So it didn't smoke until you started driving it?
>
> "waiting?" That sounds like fun. not
I always am up earlier than my truck gets here.. and that poor driver is
chaining up over Donner while I relax in this upscale hotel in Reno. It
could be worse. Imagine being a 50 something year old virgin looking
forward to spending Christmas with a Ramen noodle dinner and no friends or
family.
>
>
> Plus I know you have posted earlier that your truck is governed to sub 80
> so
> why brag about a truck that is so slow?
>
I get paid by the hour so sometimes I only drive 55 - 60 mph when the speed
limit is 75. Mr receivers are open 24/7/365.
Rocky
"Zeke" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
>
> Are you saying that your truck uses biodiesel for a lubricant intead of
oil?
Here this quote should help you:
Biodiesel has better lubricating properties and much higher Ocetane ratings
than today's lower sulfur diesel fuels. Biodiesel addition reduces fuel
system wear, and in low levels in high pressure systems increases the life
of the fuel injection equipment that relies on the fuel for its lubrication.
Depending on the engine, this might include high pressure injection pumps,
pump injectors (also called unit injectors) and fuel injectors.
The above can be found a few places and one of them is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
> So it didn't smoke until you started driving it?
It seems that way but the 10 speed I used to drive is not the only truck in
the fleet to kick out black smoke after it used to burn clean so it looks
like another problem.
> I always am up earlier than my truck gets here.. and that poor driver is
> chaining up over Donner while I relax in this upscale hotel in Reno.
You posted the word "waiting" earlier and waiting is waiting. duh.
> I get paid by the hour so sometimes I only drive 55 - 60 mph when the
speed
> limit is 75.
Why would you slow down if you have an "upscale hotel in Reno" waiting for
you?
Plus, since your truck can't even do 80 where the speed limit is 75 it
doesn't really matter how many HP it has under the hood.
> Mr receivers are open 24/7/365.
That alone isn't much help if you can't pickup 24/7/365 and you have to
share your truck. zzzzz
Rocky
CCBlack
> > Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
>
> whatever
Wow ... that speaks volumes. Rocktard the supposed trucker from the
frozen tundra of Iowa doesn't know the term " gelling " when it comes
to diesel fuel.
Figures.
Chris
Rocky
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I didn't use that term because I doubted if any of the Idiots here would
have known what I was talking about. Jeff certainly proved he didn't know
about biodiesel.
You and Jeff are both bragging about trucks that can't go over 80. How dumb
is that?
Rocky
JerryD(upstateNY)
Very true but biodiesel has something that cuts down on friction so you end
up with better fuel mileage in the long run and when running biodiesel your
motor sounds more like a car engine than a diesel engine so there is an
obvious difference.<<<<<<<<
There you go again, talking about something that you know nothing
about......AGAIN !!!!
Biodiesel has less BTU's per gallon then #2 Diesel, so it will produce less
power so it will get less MPG, no matter how much friction it cuts.
I suppose you had one of those 1978 Pontiacs that had the experimental
carburator installed by mistake ?
You know the ones that got 100 MPG until Pontiac realized their mistake and
removed them.
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A Teamster
> "CCBlack" <ccblack...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:62773d04-67a9-4066...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Rocky wrote:
> > > > Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
>
> > > whatever
>
> > Wow ... that speaks volumes. Rocktard the supposed trucker from the
> > frozen tundra of Iowa doesn't know the term " gelling " when it comes
> > to diesel fuel.
>
> I didn't use that term because I doubted if any of the Idiots here would
> have known what I was talking about. Jeff certainly proved he didn't know
> about biodiesel.
>
> Rocky
I can't believe you just said that....wait...yes I can.
Christmas alone with Ramen noodle dinner is truely what you have to
look forward to.
Rocky
>
> There you go again, talking about something that you know nothing
> about......
Huh? You who have probably never even used bio are telling me that?
I started using bio almost 4 years ago and it didn't take long at all to see
that it sounded better and got better fuel mileage.
Rocky
Rocky
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>
> I can't believe you just said that....
Keep it up Charlie because I can put you in my KF with a dozen other Trolls.
BTW on January 11, 2010 realitytrasher will have been in my KF for one full
year.
JerryD(upstateNY)
I started using bio almost 4 years ago and it didn't take long at all to see
that it sounded better and got better fuel mileage.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
You are full of shit.
#2 Diesel has 129,500 BTU's per gallon.
Biodiesel has 118,296 BTU's per gallon. (8.65% less)
There is no way you are going to get more power or mileage from bio.
I don't care what you say, the laws of physics say different.
By the way...... you said that your company told you to blend your fuel,
then you said that one person told you to blend it 50-50 and another told
you to never blend more than 30%.
Who were the guys........janitors.
Probably when you were sweeping up at the trucking company, one other
janitor told you one thing and another janitor told you another.
You can't even keep track of your lies/stories.
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Rocky
Doug McCrary
Rocky
> Huh? You who have probably never even used bio are telling me that?
> I started using bio almost 4 years ago and it didn't take long at all to
see
> that it sounded better and got better fuel mileage.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> You are full of shit.
> #2 Diesel has 129,500 BTU's per gallon.
> Biodiesel has 118,296 BTU's per gallon. (8.65% less)
> There is no way you are going to get more power or mileage from bio.
> I don't care what you say, the laws of physics say different.
Once again, you have probably never even used bio and if you want to throw
numbers around then how many BTUs are in Diesel #1? The reason why I ask
about Diesel #1 is my fuel mileage went way down when I ran 40% Diesel #1.
Why is that?
> By the way...... you said that your company told you to blend your fuel,
> then you said that one person told you to blend it 50-50 and another told
> you to never blend more than 30%.
I heard the 30 percent from someone that pulls a tanker but they worked for
another company and their company was based in Minnesota which means they
were even in a colder climate.
Dude, you are trying to throw numbers around when the facts are I drove an
old freightliner with a Cummins motor and never saw above 6 mpg until I
started to use bio then I saw close to 7.2 mpg.
If you have ever bought fuel at a Pilot then you might have used B2, B11 or
B20 yourself. Yep, I've seen Pilots sell B20 before and once they go over
B11 they have to post it on the pumps at least that is the law in Illinois
and Iowa. And I know some Pilots sell bio without putting B11 on their
tanks because I knew a tanker driver that delivered soy diesel to two
different Pilots.
If you have never used bio yourself then it is a waste of my time trying to
deal with you and you know that right?
Rocky
Rocky
> On Dec 13, 7:22 pm, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> > "CCBlack" <ccblack...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:62773d04-67a9-4066...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > Rocky wrote:
> > > > > Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
> >
> > > > whatever
> >
> > > Wow ... that speaks volumes. Rocktard the supposed trucker from the
> > > frozen tundra of Iowa doesn't know the term " gelling " when it comes
> > > to diesel fuel.
> >
> > I didn't use that term because I doubted if any of the Idiots here would
> > have known what I was talking about. Jeff certainly proved he didn't know
> > about biodiesel.
> >
>
> > Rocky
>
> I can't believe you just said that....wait...yes I can.
Don't forget how much shit I have been given for posting corect
information about a belly strap.
http://mtt.justicegonewild.com
> Christmas alone with Ramen noodle dinner is truely what you have to
> look forward to.
And what was the purpose of that BS?
Rocky
Rocky
Someone else told me 10% so I added 146 gallons and now I'm at 10%.
The fuel mileage increased but the thermometer decreased. The outside
air was reading +00F a few miles ago.
Rocky
>
> Rocky
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
There's no one in your kill file.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
I love a quick and concise Usenet Asskicking.
JerryD(upstateNY)
could damage an engine, so nitwit writes..........It might just be for the
The statement above proves you don't know what the hell you are doing and
may be damaging the engine in the truck.
Then Rocky" wrote in message
Oh yeah Diesel #1 sucks on fuel mileage and I also found out today another
Tanker Company says no more than 30% blend.
Someone else told me 10% so I added 146 gallons and now I'm at 10%.<<<<<<<<<
So you are just mixing whatever some asshole on the street tells you to mix.
Only a nitwit would do this.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
Rocky
>
> The statement above proves you don't know what the hell you are doing and
> may be damaging the engine in the truck.
It that everything you know about Diesel Blending which is nothing
more than how to be anal?
> So you are just mixing whatever some asshole on the street tells you to mix.
Not hardly but if it worked for him why should't it work for me?
Rocky
Zeke
The added lubrication inside the fuel pump and injector lines is giving him
a big boost in fuel economy... after all, the coefficient of friction inside
the injector pump and fuel lines are the biggest factor in fuel mileage.
Rocky
>
> The added lubrication inside the fuel pump and injector lines is giving him
> a big boost in fuel economy...
You forgot quite a few places where the "added lubrication" helps.
Zeke
>
>
> You posted the word "waiting" earlier and waiting is waiting. duh.
>
Real tanker drivers have to wait to load their trucks st00pid!
http://picasaweb.google.com/souper.trucker/Trucking#5415596835016949762
It certainly looks like a lot of fun.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
the coefficient of friction inside the injector pump and fuel lines are the
biggest factor in fuel mileage.<<<<<<<<<<<
That makes as much sense as anything Rocky says.
hehehehehehe
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JerryD(upstateNY)
JerryD(upstateNY)
You forgot quite a few places where the "added lubrication" helps.<<<<<<<
And just where would these places be ?
(this ought to be good)
Probable answers......
If the pushrods move easier, it should give 2-3 MPG more.
If the oil pump turns easier it should be good for at least 2 MPG more.
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Zeke
But those are lubricated by the engine oil, not the fuel if I'm not
mistaken.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
But those are lubricated by the engine oil, not the fuel if I'm not
mistaken.<<<<<<<<<<<
Yea, you are right.
That's what I get for trying to think of stupid answers.
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Rocky
"Zeke" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
>
> "Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > You posted the word "waiting" earlier and waiting is waiting. duh.
> >
>
> Real tanker drivers have to wait to load their trucks st00pid!
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/souper.trucker/Trucking#5415596835016949762
>
> It certainly looks like a lot of fun.
BTDT
Rocky
"Zeke" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
Don't feed the Troll.
JerryD(upstateNY)
You are the only troll here.
Proof can be found at..
http://MTT.NitwitGoneWild.com/
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JerryD(upstateNY)
CCBlack
> Don't feed the Troll.
That's Rocktards standard reply when he's out of answers.
Chris
Rocky
Wrong troll-breath. Jeff and Jerry are just being anal because they
know the answer is the cylinder walls are lubricated better with bio
and that is why you can get better fuel mileage with it.
Rocky
JerryD(upstateNY)
Wrong troll-breath. Jeff and Jerry are just being anal because they know
the answer is the cylinder walls are lubricated better with bio and that is
why you can get better fuel mileage with it.
It's kinda hard to explian anything to Rocky because he doesn't have any
idea about the law of physics.
Even if bio lubricates the cylinders better than # 2 deisel, it has less
BTU's per gallon so what little HP gain you might get from the pistons
moving easier, will never make up the diference in BTU's per gallon.
There is no way BIO is going to get better mileage than # 2 diesel.
It just can't happen.
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JerryD(upstateNY)
CCBlack
> It's kinda hard to explian anything to Rocky because he doesn't have any
> idea about the law of physics.
> Even if bio lubricates the cylinders better than # 2 deisel, it has less
> BTU's per gallon so what little HP gain you might get from the pistons
> moving easier, will never make up the diference in BTU's per gallon.
> There is no way BIO is going to get better mileage than # 2 diesel.
> It just can't happen.
The following I found on the web ... which seems to me to make
Rocktards whole point on this subject moot anyway :
Regular diesel fuel is “ winterized ” or seasonally adjusted at the
distributor before it’s delivered to the pumps. Winterizing is done by
mixing pump No. 2 diesel with No. 1 diesel, its more refined cousin.
Winterizing diesel fuel is done to maintain the cold weather flow
characteristics, and the ratios vary depending upon regional
distribution. To effectively use biodiesel in cold climates, it must
be mixed with winterized diesel in varying percentages, which, once
again, are regionally dependent.
Chris
JerryD(upstateNY)
to the pumps. Winterizing is done by mixing pump No. 2 diesel with No. 1
diesel, its more refined cousin.<<<<<<<<<<<<
But I am sure Rocky knows more about blending fuel that the oil company
engineers do.
Don't forget "someone" told him how to do it.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
.
>
Rocky
>
> So it didn't smoke until you started driving it?
But it isn't smoking now plus it has a lot more power and it gets
better fuel mileage. Whatever they did to it in the two weeks I was
driving an 18 speed sure helped it out. Hell it might even have more
power than that 18 speed.
Rocky
Rocky
How much more power does my truck have after being worked on? Enough power
I don't have to downshift on the Interstate to climb hills anymore and now
it is hard to tell if the trailer is loaded or not.
I don't know exactly what was done to the motor but I intend to find out.
Rocky
Rocky
>
> > another Tanker Company says no more than 30% blend.
>
> Someone else told me 10%
I found out yesterday that 10% didn't work and it probably didn't work
because it looks like the place I bought fuel at might not mix any Diesel #1
with their fuel to start with.
I've got to find more places that sell Diesel #1 so I don't have to drive so
far to get it.
Anybody know of a place around Davenport Iowa that sells Diesel #1. And
don't say Iowa 80 because it only looks like they sell it. The truth is
their Diesel #1 pumps haven't been used for years.
Rocky
Paladin
>> Second, I might not have been using Diesel #2 to start with since I had
>> fueled last at a place that has been known to sell B11. If you know about
>> B11 then you know it can freeze up before Diesel #2 and it was cold enough
>> for B11 to be a problem.
>
> A real driver would not fall for the biodiesel scam since they know it
> contains less energy than normal diesel fuel. And a smart operator would
> never use it this time of year anyway. A smart driver would have seen this
> storm coming long before it arrived and would have planned accordingly.
>
>> And since the cold weather around here turned cold very fast then
>> truckstops
>> might not have put enough additive in their fuel. Besides, once my truck
>> was started it ran ruff for quite some time as if the fuel might have
>> started to freeze.
>
> Real drivers call it "gelling", not freezing.
>
>> bought in the 10 speed I used to drive. Plus that additive might have
>> hurt
>> the motor in the 10 speed since the 10 speed is the one that kicks out a
>> lot
>> of black smoke.
>
> That smoke has nothing to do with what transmission it's attatched to, it
> says more about the drivers lack of skill in not being able to choose the
> correct gear for the speed they are running.
Black smoke has little to do with driver skills--it's
usually what is going on internally in the engine.
It's whether turbo and fuel injectors and cylinders are
all working the way they're supposed to. For instance,
white smoke can be caused by EGR cooler and/or bad
injectors; black, blue or gray smoke can also be
injectors leaking. Blue or black or gray smoke can
also be a symptom of a bad turbo.
Today's engines won't lug down to incomplete combustion
above about 900 rpm. And I'm sure anyone out of
driving school wouldn't regularly lug below 1000.
>
Zeke
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> Black smoke has little to do with driver skills--it's usually what is
> going on internally in the engine. It's whether turbo and fuel injectors
> and cylinders are all working the way they're supposed to. For instance,
> white smoke can be caused by EGR cooler and/or bad injectors; black, blue
> or gray smoke can also be injectors leaking. Blue or black or gray smoke
> can also be a symptom of a bad turbo.
All true. But in this case it had more to do with an incompetant driver
behind the wheel.
>
> Today's engines won't lug down to incomplete combustion above about 900
> rpm. And I'm sure anyone out of driving school wouldn't regularly lug
> below 1000.
>
The poster I was replying to is stupid enough to do something like that.
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Rocky
> Zeke wrote:
>
> Black smoke has little to do with driver skills--it's
> usually what is going on internally in the engine.
> It's whether turbo and fuel injectors and cylinders are
> all working the way they're supposed to. For instance,
> white smoke can be caused by EGR cooler and/or bad
> injectors; black, blue or gray smoke can also be
> injectors leaking. Blue or black or gray smoke can
> also be a symptom of a bad turbo.
My motor does not smoke anymore and I'll never know exactly what
caused the black smoke because it has a new head and a new turbo. But
the neatest part is I don't loose so much speed on hills and it gets
better fuel mileage now.
> Today's engines won't lug down to incomplete combustion
> above about 900 rpm. And I'm sure anyone out of
> driving school wouldn't regularly lug below 1000.
Plus there is little or no power below 1000 rpm and the cruise control
automatically shuts off it the rpms drop below 1000.
Thank for the info and Zeke/Jeff was just trolling with his bs as
usual.
Rocky
Paladin
Progressive shifting calls for dropping to lower rpm
(the lower the rpm, the better the fuel economy).
Higher rpm puts more horsepower on the road; lower rpm
increases torque. When climbing a steep, long grade, I
keep my rpms high, because if you allow the rpms to
drop below, say, 1300, you will very soon have to drop
another gear. so, depending on the length of the
grade, I keep the rpms high when climbing.
Rocky
The only time I'll drop below 1000 rpm is in the lower gears because
you don't have to downshift to get your speed back up then.