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walt tonne
Jan 5, 2012, 9:28:29 AM1/5/12
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On Jan 5, 7:10 am, Sordo <so...@plain.truth.org> wrote:
> Hospitals Stuck With Illegal Immigrants, Uninsured ‘Permanent
> Patients’ at Massive Cost
>
> The Blaze – 10 hrs agohttp://news.yahoo.com/hospitals-stuck-illegal-immigrant-uninsured-per...
>
> An unpleasant new report claims that many hospitals in major metro
> areas are struggling with the growing problem of “permanent patients.”
>
> What’s a “permanent patient”? According to the New York Times they are
> mostly illegal immigrants or people who lack insurance or their own
> housing that the hospital cannot turn away.
>
> The Times defines a “permanent patient”:
>
> …[someone who has] been languishing for months or even years
> in…hospitals, despite being well enough to be sent home or to nursing
> centers for less-expensive care, because they are illegal immigrants
> or lack sufficient insurance or appropriate housing.
>
> Of course, having dozens of patients hanging around that long means
> these hospitals are absorbing the bill for millions of dollars in
> unreimbursed expenses annually.
>
> Unsurprisingly, the majority of these “permanent patients” are illegal
> immigrants because, as mentioned in the above, they have no housing or
> family in the area.
>
> “Medicaid often pays for emergency care for illegal immigrants, but
> not for continuing care, and many hospitals in places with large
> concentrations of illegal immigrants, like Texas, California and
> Florida, face the quandary of where to send patients well enough to
> leave,” writes Sam Roberts of the Times.
>
> What kind of cost are we talking about here?
>
> “Care for a patient languishing in a hospital can cost more than
> $100,000 a year, while care in a nursing home can cost $20,000 or less
> [emphasis added],” Roberts reports.
>
> Patients fit to be discharged from hospitals but having no place to go
> typically remain more than five years, says LaRay Brown, a senior vice
> president for New York City’s Health and Hospitals Corporation.
>
> She says that there were about 300 patients in such a predicament
> throughout the New York City area alone, most in public hospitals or
> higher-priced skilled public nursing homes, though a few were in
> private hospitals, according to the Times.
>
> “Many of those individuals no longer need that care, but because they
> have no resources and many have no family here, we, unfortunately, are
> caring for them in a much more expensive setting than necessary based
> on their clinical need,” said Brown.
>
> The report goes on to cite an example where one patient from Queens,
> NY, has been at the Coler-Goldwater Specialty Hospital and Nursing
> Facility for 13 years because the hospital has no place to send him.
>
> The patient, who is in his mid-60s, has been there since an arterial
> disease cost him part of one leg below the knee and left him in a
> wheelchair, according to the report.
>
> Or another example:
>
> Five years ago, Yu Kang Fu, 58, who lived in Flushing, Queens, and
> was a cook at a Chinese restaurant in New Jersey, was dropped off by
> his boss at New York Downtown Hospital, a private institution in
> Manhattan, complaining of a severe headache. Mr. Yu was admitted to
> the intensive-care unit with a stroke.
>
> Mr. Yu remained in the hospital for over four years until he was
> transferred last spring to the Atlantis Rehabilitation and Residential
> Health Care Facility, a private center in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, after
> the federal government certified him as a “permanent resident under
> color of law,” essentially acknowledging that he could not be returned
> to China and qualifying him for medical benefits.
>
> “This gentleman cost us millions of dollars,” said Jeffrey Menkes, the
> president of New York Downtown. “We try to provide physical,
> occupational therapy, but this is an acute-care hospital. This patient
> shouldn’t be here.”
>
> The fact of the matter is that hospitals in metro areas that host a
> large illegal immigrant population are unable to turn away patients
> who have neither insurance nor proof that they are in the United
> States legally– two things necessary for discharge purposes and
> reimbursements, said Chui Man Lai, assistant vice president of patient
> services at a New York state hospital.
>
> “These patients often arrive in the emergency room acutely ill and
> unaccompanied, and we have to treat them until they can be discharged
> safely,” Ms. Lai said. “The hospital is required, by law and its
> mission, to care for these patients.”
>
> But even worse than “permanent patients,” those who essentially live
> in hospitals already operating on thin budgets, are what some refer to
> as “pop drops”: grown adults leaving their parents at the hospitals so
> that they can go on vacation.
>
> “Hospitals are reluctant to complain publicly about such patients for
> fear of being perceived as callously seeking to dump nonpaying
> patients,” writes Roberts. “Elected officials are generally loath to
> be seen as encouraging illegal immigrants by changing reimbursement
> formulas. The issue was never addressed during the debate over
> national health care legislation.”
>
> Read the full report
> here.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqZoGcZmtSe7T_cIYeCtO5Kw73QA;_ylu=X3oDMT...
> ___
>
> "Proud To Be Everything Liberals Hate"
Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
border and dump.
> Hospitals Stuck With Illegal Immigrants, Uninsured ‘Permanent
> Patients’ at Massive Cost
>
> The Blaze – 10 hrs agohttp://news.yahoo.com/hospitals-stuck-illegal-immigrant-uninsured-per...
>
> An unpleasant new report claims that many hospitals in major metro
> areas are struggling with the growing problem of “permanent patients.”
>
> What’s a “permanent patient”? According to the New York Times they are
> mostly illegal immigrants or people who lack insurance or their own
> housing that the hospital cannot turn away.
>
> The Times defines a “permanent patient”:
>
> …[someone who has] been languishing for months or even years
> in…hospitals, despite being well enough to be sent home or to nursing
> centers for less-expensive care, because they are illegal immigrants
> or lack sufficient insurance or appropriate housing.
>
> Of course, having dozens of patients hanging around that long means
> these hospitals are absorbing the bill for millions of dollars in
> unreimbursed expenses annually.
>
> Unsurprisingly, the majority of these “permanent patients” are illegal
> immigrants because, as mentioned in the above, they have no housing or
> family in the area.
>
> “Medicaid often pays for emergency care for illegal immigrants, but
> not for continuing care, and many hospitals in places with large
> concentrations of illegal immigrants, like Texas, California and
> Florida, face the quandary of where to send patients well enough to
> leave,” writes Sam Roberts of the Times.
>
> What kind of cost are we talking about here?
>
> “Care for a patient languishing in a hospital can cost more than
> $100,000 a year, while care in a nursing home can cost $20,000 or less
> [emphasis added],” Roberts reports.
>
> Patients fit to be discharged from hospitals but having no place to go
> typically remain more than five years, says LaRay Brown, a senior vice
> president for New York City’s Health and Hospitals Corporation.
>
> She says that there were about 300 patients in such a predicament
> throughout the New York City area alone, most in public hospitals or
> higher-priced skilled public nursing homes, though a few were in
> private hospitals, according to the Times.
>
> “Many of those individuals no longer need that care, but because they
> have no resources and many have no family here, we, unfortunately, are
> caring for them in a much more expensive setting than necessary based
> on their clinical need,” said Brown.
>
> The report goes on to cite an example where one patient from Queens,
> NY, has been at the Coler-Goldwater Specialty Hospital and Nursing
> Facility for 13 years because the hospital has no place to send him.
>
> The patient, who is in his mid-60s, has been there since an arterial
> disease cost him part of one leg below the knee and left him in a
> wheelchair, according to the report.
>
> Or another example:
>
> Five years ago, Yu Kang Fu, 58, who lived in Flushing, Queens, and
> was a cook at a Chinese restaurant in New Jersey, was dropped off by
> his boss at New York Downtown Hospital, a private institution in
> Manhattan, complaining of a severe headache. Mr. Yu was admitted to
> the intensive-care unit with a stroke.
>
> Mr. Yu remained in the hospital for over four years until he was
> transferred last spring to the Atlantis Rehabilitation and Residential
> Health Care Facility, a private center in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, after
> the federal government certified him as a “permanent resident under
> color of law,” essentially acknowledging that he could not be returned
> to China and qualifying him for medical benefits.
>
> “This gentleman cost us millions of dollars,” said Jeffrey Menkes, the
> president of New York Downtown. “We try to provide physical,
> occupational therapy, but this is an acute-care hospital. This patient
> shouldn’t be here.”
>
> The fact of the matter is that hospitals in metro areas that host a
> large illegal immigrant population are unable to turn away patients
> who have neither insurance nor proof that they are in the United
> States legally– two things necessary for discharge purposes and
> reimbursements, said Chui Man Lai, assistant vice president of patient
> services at a New York state hospital.
>
> “These patients often arrive in the emergency room acutely ill and
> unaccompanied, and we have to treat them until they can be discharged
> safely,” Ms. Lai said. “The hospital is required, by law and its
> mission, to care for these patients.”
>
> But even worse than “permanent patients,” those who essentially live
> in hospitals already operating on thin budgets, are what some refer to
> as “pop drops”: grown adults leaving their parents at the hospitals so
> that they can go on vacation.
>
> “Hospitals are reluctant to complain publicly about such patients for
> fear of being perceived as callously seeking to dump nonpaying
> patients,” writes Roberts. “Elected officials are generally loath to
> be seen as encouraging illegal immigrants by changing reimbursement
> formulas. The issue was never addressed during the debate over
> national health care legislation.”
>
> Read the full report
> here.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqZoGcZmtSe7T_cIYeCtO5Kw73QA;_ylu=X3oDMT...
> ___
>
> "Proud To Be Everything Liberals Hate"
Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
border and dump.
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 5, 2012, 10:39:16 AM1/5/12
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solution is to document the undocumented.
http://tinyurl.com/6s2gz5d
-RFH
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 5, 2012, 11:11:07 AM1/5/12
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"But even worse than “permanent patients,” those who essentially live
in hospitals already operating on thin budgets, are what some refer to
as “pop drops”: grown adults leaving their parents at the hospitals so
that they can go on vacation."
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Jan 5, 2012, 7:56:46 PM1/5/12
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"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
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> On Jan 5, 9:39 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 8:28 am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Jan 5, 7:10 am, Sordo <so...@plain.truth.org> wrote:
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>> > > Hospitals Stuck With Illegal Immigrants, Uninsured ‘Permanent
>> > > Patients’ at Massive Cost
>>
>> > > The Blaze – 10 hrs
>> > > agohttp://news.yahoo.com/hospitals-stuck-illegal-immigrant-uninsured-per...
>>
>> > > An unpleasant new report claims that many hospitals in major metro
>> > > areas are struggling with the growing problem of “permanent
>> > > patients.”
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 8:28 am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>> > On Jan 5, 7:10 am, Sordo <so...@plain.truth.org> wrote:
>>
>> > > Hospitals Stuck With Illegal Immigrants, Uninsured ‘Permanent
>> > > Patients’ at Massive Cost
>>
>> > > The Blaze – 10 hrs
>> > > agohttp://news.yahoo.com/hospitals-stuck-illegal-immigrant-uninsured-per...
>>
>> > > An unpleasant new report claims that many hospitals in major metro
>> > > areas are struggling with the growing problem of “permanent
>> > > patients.”
>>
>>
>> Employers are aware of this problem, and say that the best -and only-
>> solution is to document the undocumented.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6s2gz5d
>>
>> -RFH
>
>
> You can rest assured that these ones are NOT Hispanics:
>
Doctors say Marco Antonio Fuentes is well enough to go home today.
>> solution is to document the undocumented.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6s2gz5d
>>
>> -RFH
>
>
> You can rest assured that these ones are NOT Hispanics:
>
At last.
Fuentes has spent 374 days at Community Regional Medical Center, the longest
uninterrupted stay by a patient at the Fresno acute-care hospital, according
to staff recollection.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/01/03/2669593/man-will-leave-fresno-hospital.html
sarge
Jan 5, 2012, 9:28:53 PM1/5/12
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our companies spewing shit out inside their country.
f. barnes
Jan 6, 2012, 9:47:23 AM1/6/12
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On Jan 5, 2:10 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:28:29 -0800 (PST), walt tonne
>
> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> counterparts.
Prove that is true for illegals.
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:28:29 -0800 (PST), walt tonne
>
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
> >border and dump.
>
> That's pretty stupid. They pay taxes to get services they receive.
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
> >border and dump.
>
>
> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> counterparts.
Prove that is true for illegals.
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 6, 2012, 10:03:03 AM1/6/12
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- They are afraid of the police. Their children may be abused and
they have to keep quiet.
- The SSN deductions are religiously made, they never collect a
penny.
- They are not aware of the services they are entitled to.
- etc.
-Ramon
Harrison J. Bounel
Jan 6, 2012, 10:05:41 AM1/6/12
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On Jan 5, 2:10 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:28:29 -0800 (PST), walt tonne
>
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:28:29 -0800 (PST), walt tonne
>
> <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
> >border and dump.
>
> >border and dump.
>
> That's pretty stupid. They pay taxes to get services they receive.
>
> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> counterparts.
"taxes" ?? LMMFAO !! I hate to be the one to break this to you but a
>
> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> counterparts.
9% sales tax on a six pack of Dos XX's won't cover $300,000 worth of
free medical care they recieve. Idiot.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317
States usually bear the brunt of the burden.
Arizona state treasurer Dean Martin says his state loses between $1.3
billion and $2.5 billion each year on illegal immigrants. In addition
to the fiscal costs of incarcerating and educating illegal immigrants
and their families, Arizona also faces a variety of other indirect
costs, says Martin, who favors Arizona's controversial new immigration
law.
Arizona has higher car insurance rates, he says, because illegal
immigrants who cross the border often steal cars that they use to move
further into the country. Undocumented workers are also more likely to
perpetrate hit-and-run accidents, he says, because they are afraid of
being deported if they are caught. Not only does this add to car
insurance rates, but it also stretches police resources, he says.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/10444-illegal-alien-patients-check-in-but-they-dont-check-out?tmpl=component&layout=default&page=
An underreported but serious problem with illegal aliens and health
care costs surfaced in the New York Times again this week. The paper
reprised a report on patients who will not or cannot leave the
hospital after treatment. Many of them, the Times says, are illegals.
The story is hardly a revelation, but it reconfirms data which show
illegals and their families are a crushing financial burden on
taxpayers from coast to coast.
Added to the costs states pick up for illegals are those for the
federal government, which spends nearly $6 billion on illegal-alien
health care.
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 6, 2012, 10:18:07 AM1/6/12
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On Jan 6, 9:05 am, "Harrison J. Bounel" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a
> conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration
> laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S.
> taxpayers more than $100 billion each year. "
Let's see who is behind "FAIR", shall we?
http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
http://tinyurl.com/29uacsk
http://www.economicrefugee.net/new-az-immigration-law-ties-to-white-supremacists/
(2 videos)
I also wonder this: How come, out of 28,988,070 US companies (which
should have the most knowledge about the economic impact of the
undocumented, not to mention their concern about the economic future
of the US), there is NOT ONE who agrees with the anti-immigrants?
The number of religious denominations or churches on the anti-
immigrant side is also a big ZERO.
-Ramon
wrote:
> "The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a
> conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration
> laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S.
> taxpayers more than $100 billion each year. "
Let's see who is behind "FAIR", shall we?
http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
http://tinyurl.com/29uacsk
http://www.economicrefugee.net/new-az-immigration-law-ties-to-white-supremacists/
(2 videos)
I also wonder this: How come, out of 28,988,070 US companies (which
should have the most knowledge about the economic impact of the
undocumented, not to mention their concern about the economic future
of the US), there is NOT ONE who agrees with the anti-immigrants?
The number of religious denominations or churches on the anti-
immigrant side is also a big ZERO.
-Ramon
-=DirtBag®
Jan 6, 2012, 10:35:17 AM1/6/12
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That's the unspoken truth. WE NEED NEW TAXPAYERS to pay the burden
being strapped on us now.
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 6, 2012, 10:58:11 AM1/6/12
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On Jan 6, 9:35 am, -=DirtBag® <n...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 1/6/12 7:18 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
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>
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>
>
> > On Jan 6, 9:05 am, "Harrison J. Bounel"<hoofhearte...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a
> > > conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration
> > > laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S.
> > > taxpayers more than $100 billion each year. "
>
> > Let's see who is behind "FAIR", shall we?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
> >http://tinyurl.com/29uacsk
> >http://www.economicrefugee.net/new-az-immigration-law-ties-to-white-s...
> On 1/6/12 7:18 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 9:05 am, "Harrison J. Bounel"<hoofhearte...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a
> > > conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration
> > > laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S.
> > > taxpayers more than $100 billion each year. "
>
> > Let's see who is behind "FAIR", shall we?
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
> >http://tinyurl.com/29uacsk
> > (2 videos)
>
> > I also wonder this: How come, out of 28,988,070 US companies (which
> > should have the most knowledge about the economic impact of the
> > undocumented, not to mention their concern about the economic future
> > of the US), there is NOT ONE who agrees with the anti-immigrants?
>
> > The number of religious denominations or churches on the anti-
> > immigrant side is also a big ZERO.
>
> > -Ramon
>
> America needs the babies. The future worker class taxpayer
> of America. That's the unspoken truth. WE NEED NEW TAXPAYERS
> to pay the burden being strapped on us now.
EXACTLY!!!
>
> > I also wonder this: How come, out of 28,988,070 US companies (which
> > should have the most knowledge about the economic impact of the
> > undocumented, not to mention their concern about the economic future
> > of the US), there is NOT ONE who agrees with the anti-immigrants?
>
> > The number of religious denominations or churches on the anti-
> > immigrant side is also a big ZERO.
>
> > -Ramon
>
> America needs the babies. The future worker class taxpayer
> of America. That's the unspoken truth. WE NEED NEW TAXPAYERS
> to pay the burden being strapped on us now.
- Government needs taxpayers
- Employers need employees
- Churches need their flock
- Parties need voters
Like Santa Claus in August, the future arrived early for Harley
Davidson.
Let's hope, nay pray!, that all those Hispanic kids being born prefer
Harleys (Bagger's Choice) over imports from Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and
Kawasaki...
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/
-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
Jan 6, 2012, 11:18:14 AM1/6/12
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On Jan 6, 8:47 am, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote:
universities and colleges?
Simple: Because the educational institutions were built with their
state taxes (which are unavoidable).
The members of the undocumented workforce pay taxes (liquor, gasoline,
excise, road tolls, sales, etc.) and the school are built with them.
This is true of all states. However, only some states allow in-state
tuition to undocumented folks and their children.
Thus we are ripping them off.
-Ramon
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Harrison J. Bounel
Jan 6, 2012, 1:00:27 PM1/6/12
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On Jan 6, 11:09 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "Harrison J. Bounel"
>
> Or is that more pulling shit outta yer ass?
>
> There are taxes on food, clothing, shelter, gas, utilities, haircuts,
> and everything in between at the same rate as all other citizens pay.
>
> Moreover, their percentage in the population make them the Lesser
> amount being caused (to a state) than the white majority.
>
> And, FYI, you made the case of universal HC reform
>
> So that a FEW don't pay for the many (which Bush caused, remember).
>
> If every individual in your state was required to pay Something (have
> coverage) then the burden on the state would be less.
Read my previous post you braindead useful idiot. SHHHEEESSSHH !!
Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to have a
discussion with a 5 year old girl FFS !!
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 07:05:41 -0800 (PST), "Harrison J. Bounel"
>
> <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> That's pretty stupid. They pay taxes to get services they receive.
>
> >> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> >> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> >> counterparts.
>
> >"taxes" ?? LMMFAO !! I hate to be the one to break this to you but a
> >9% sales tax on a six pack of Dos XX's won't cover $300,000 worth of
> >free medical care they recieve. Idiot.
>
> What $300,000 cost? Of what? What case(s) are you claiming?
> <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> That's pretty stupid. They pay taxes to get services they receive.
>
> >> They get a percentage of services comparable to their population in
> >> the demographic--probably at a lesser rate than your white citizen
> >> counterparts.
>
> >"taxes" ?? LMMFAO !! I hate to be the one to break this to you but a
> >9% sales tax on a six pack of Dos XX's won't cover $300,000 worth of
> >free medical care they recieve. Idiot.
>
>
> Or is that more pulling shit outta yer ass?
>
> There are taxes on food, clothing, shelter, gas, utilities, haircuts,
> and everything in between at the same rate as all other citizens pay.
>
> Moreover, their percentage in the population make them the Lesser
> amount being caused (to a state) than the white majority.
>
> And, FYI, you made the case of universal HC reform
>
> So that a FEW don't pay for the many (which Bush caused, remember).
>
> If every individual in your state was required to pay Something (have
> coverage) then the burden on the state would be less.
Read my previous post you braindead useful idiot. SHHHEEESSSHH !!
Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to have a
discussion with a 5 year old girl FFS !!
tooly
Jan 7, 2012, 6:40:06 PM1/7/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
I am quite certain that immigration policy in this country has been a
vital component of Democrat Party strategy to destroy the Republican
Party. In so doing however, they also destroy America, transforming
her into a third world cacaphony of balkanized communities at one
another's throats. Los Angelas is probably the model that is fast
careening toward all USA cities. We are disenigrating as a society.
Thank you Democrat party; thank you liberal progressives.
A country that cannot police it's borders is no longer REAL, but in
'name' only. Hmm...anyone see George Soros around?
Michael Gordge
Jan 7, 2012, 9:40:43 PM1/7/12
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On Jan 5, 11:28 pm, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
> border and dump.
Socialism is the breeding ground for xenophobia, ewe're the stupid
> Make Mexico pay for treating their shitstains. Air evac to the
> border and dump.
cunts who wanted state health care and now that ewe've got it ewe
become moronic xenophobic fuckwits.
MG
Michael Gordge
Jan 7, 2012, 9:45:18 PM1/7/12
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Fucking leftist fuckwit, why are they illegals?
Oh thats right, because ewe xenpohobic dumb-fuck parasitical
lefturdian morons have to invent excuses to keep the proceeds of theft
all to yourself, socialism, the scourge of humanity.
MG
Oh thats right, because ewe xenpohobic dumb-fuck parasitical
lefturdian morons have to invent excuses to keep the proceeds of theft
all to yourself, socialism, the scourge of humanity.
MG
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