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Steve A.

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May 10, 2008, 12:28:12 PM5/10/08
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Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
Ohio Roads section of my website - http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.
Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
at. As always, highlights are summarized at http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.
Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

Marc Fannin

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May 10, 2008, 3:26:33 PM5/10/08
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Steve A. wrote:

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/oh_44/ :

"These are all northbound, including the last one on the OH 2 WB
duplex. For some reason, OH 44 doesn't have an interchange with this
particular cross-country US highway. It does have an old alignment to
the west, where it returns via OH 2, and then continues north to end
at Headlands Beach."

SR-44 does have an indirect interchange with US-20, and its old
alignment is to the east (north of Chardon, the current alignment
never meets the old one). See various parts of
http://www.roadfan.com/paine.html

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Steve Sobol

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May 10, 2008, 3:41:01 PM5/10/08
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On 2008-05-10, Steve A. <webm...@alpsroads.net> wrote:
> Ohio Roads section of my website - http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.
> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> at. As always, highlights are summarized at http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.
> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

MLK between the lake and University Circle is one of the prettiest drives in
all of Northeast Ohio. Thanks for those photos!


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cal...@gmail.com

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May 10, 2008, 6:40:26 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 9:28 am, "Steve A." <webmas...@alpsroads.net> wrote:
> Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> update I've ever seen or done.  I counted.  1,054 new and updated Ohio
> photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> at.  As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

You seriously need to get your pecker wet... All that effort for one
American state.

abda53

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May 10, 2008, 6:44:03 PM5/10/08
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Not only that.. but that website fucking sucks donkey nuts.. Fuck..
that's a piece of shit even compared to 1997 standards.

cal...@gmail.com

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May 10, 2008, 7:08:28 PM5/10/08
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LOL. Steve has been too busy creating fictitious 11-way interchanges
to avoid interaction w/ the ladies:

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/11-way.jpg

Needless to say, this design is extremely inefficient. Really, how
safe is it to have exit ramps every couple hundred feet from one
continuous lane? Those short merges on the transition ramps would
cause easilt cause pile-ups and traffic jams.

Oh well... Maybe he can attract a 300 pound woman w/ low self-worth w/
that crappy art.

abda53

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May 10, 2008, 7:12:09 PM5/10/08
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lol Maybe Sherman can jump in there too and get a little 3some going
on.. I know the 300 pound woman might get bored for feeling left out,
so they could pick up some fast food first

"Schrödinger's Cat Surprise! Jazz Band"

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May 10, 2008, 7:20:03 PM5/10/08
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Interesting.

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Scott Nazelrod

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May 10, 2008, 7:52:18 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 11:28 am, "Steve A." <webmas...@alpsroads.net> wrote:
> Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
> photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> at. As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

Cool. Great job, Steve, Bill, and Doug!

My Land of Misery

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May 10, 2008, 8:00:02 PM5/10/08
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On May 10, 11:28 am, "Steve A." <webmas...@alpsroads.net> wrote:
> Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> update I've ever seen or done.  I counted.  1,054 new and updated Ohio
> photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> at.  As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

Cool. I found I-70 a good one since it's been 21 years since my last
trip to the area.

BTW...also checked out the Old US65 page in the Missouri section...do
you know the location? It sure isn't Chillicothe. I'm guessing
around Marshall.

Douglas Kerr - ECHM

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May 10, 2008, 8:49:19 PM5/10/08
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"Steve A." <webm...@alpsroads.net> wrote in message
news:08a72be3-e16c-4dda...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

And just in time for the Dayton meet, which I understand was held today.


H.B. Elkins

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May 11, 2008, 12:39:57 AM5/11/08
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 20:49:19 -0400, Douglas Kerr - ECHM wrote:

>And just in time for the Dayton meet, which I understand was held today.

Yes, I got in about 8 tonight. We had a good time and got to see some very
interesting projects and a tasty helping or two of sine salad.

I'll post details of the trip shortly, and there will be a massive 385-pic
UPD*TE forthcoming, as well as several videos.

Maybe I need to dampen my beak as well.... LOL


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Steve A.

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May 11, 2008, 1:27:09 AM5/11/08
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I would love more information - some of my submissions are just "here
are some photos, enjoy", which I don't mind, but when you leave the
guessing to me, I may not guess right.

Will Weaver

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May 11, 2008, 3:07:03 AM5/11/08
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On May 10, 12:28 pm, "Steve A." <webmas...@alpsroads.net> wrote:
> Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
> photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> at. As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.

Good stuff. I could send you some Virginia photos (with info) if you
want, since I noticed a lot (but not all) of the photos you have from
Virginia are from the DC area or Hampton Roads.

- Will Weaver
coredesat-at-gmail-dot-com

Larry Harvilla

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May 11, 2008, 5:59:55 AM5/11/08
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A little correction on all the stuff named "Miami" in SW OH that you
talked about on the I-71 page ...

Everything bearing that name, and for that matter its linguistic
corruption "Maumee," is actually named after a Native American tribe
that dominated western Ohio and eastern Indiana before European settlement.

There are actually two rivers, the Great Miami and the Little Miami, and
neither of them is at milepost 50 of I-71. The highly scenic crossing of
the Little Miami is around milepost 35, and I-71 actually doesn't cross
the Great Miami, which runs west of Cincinnati at that point. [see
footnote] The best place to see the Great Miami is north of there, in
Dayton.

The university is actually called Miami University, not the University
of Miami. That's actually MU's preferred way to differentiate the two,
as they don't particularly care for being called "Miami of Ohio," or so
they say. The "University of Miami" is the one located in Coral Gables, FL.

Beyond that, there are two towns bearing variations of that name --
Miamitown, near the I-74/I-275 duplex NW of Cincinnati, and Miamisburg,
just south of Dayton -- as well as a county (Miami County, north of
Dayton), and as I mentioned, everything named Maumee in northwest Ohio,
including the river and bay near Toledo.

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Steve A.

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May 11, 2008, 11:58:48 AM5/11/08
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On May 11, 5:59 am, Larry Harvilla <la...@phatpage.org> wrote:
> Steve A. wrote:
> > Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> > update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
> > photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> > Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> > Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> > Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> > at. As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> > Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.
>
> A little correction on all the stuff named "Miami" in SW OH that you
> talked about on the I-71 page ...
>
> Everything bearing that name, and for that matter its linguistic
> corruption "Maumee," is actually named after a Native American tribe
> that dominated western Ohio and eastern Indiana before European settlement.
>
> There are actually two rivers, the Great Miami and the Little Miami, and
> neither of them is at milepost 50 of I-71. The highly scenic crossing of
> the Little Miami is around milepost 35, and I-71 actually doesn't cross
> the Great Miami, which runs west of Cincinnati at that point. [see
> footnote] The best place to see the Great Miami is north of there, in
> Dayton.
>
> The university is actually called Miami University, not the University
> of Miami. That's actually MU's preferred way to differentiate the two,
> as they don't particularly care for being called "Miami of Ohio," or so
> they say. The "University of Miami" is the one located in Coral Gables, FL.
>
> Beyond that, there are two towns bearing variations of that name --
> Miamitown, near the I-74/I-275 duplex NW of Cincinnati, and Miamisburg,
> just south of Dayton -- as well as a county (Miami County, north of
> Dayton), and as I mentioned, everything named Maumee in northwest Ohio,
> including the river and bay near Toledo.
>
Thanks, I'll roll a correction into the update next time I'm FTPing.
Didn't know Miami and Maumee.

Steve A.

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May 11, 2008, 11:59:19 AM5/11/08
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I reserve the right to be picky, but submissions are always welcome!

Adam Prince

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May 11, 2008, 12:01:49 PM5/11/08
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Well learned, my friend.

Will Weaver

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May 11, 2008, 1:24:58 PM5/11/08
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Well, I'll probably be going down to the Hopewell area soon - while
I'm there, I plan to take photos of the mutant signs that lurk down
there (VA 156 in rounded squares, strange VA 10 semicircles in Futura
font, etc), so I'll probably be sending pictures of those to everyone
(within reason) when I get them. :-P

- Will Weaver
coredesat-at-gmail-dot-com

Steve Sobol

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May 11, 2008, 2:05:34 PM5/11/08
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On 2008-05-11, Larry Harvilla <la...@phatpage.org> wrote:

> The university is actually called Miami University, not the University
> of Miami. That's actually MU's preferred way to differentiate the two,
> as they don't particularly care for being called "Miami of Ohio," or so
> they say. The "University of Miami" is the one located in Coral Gables, FL.

Right. To clarify further, IIRC MU's actual name is Miami University of Ohio.

Marc Fannin

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May 11, 2008, 3:33:49 PM5/11/08
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Marc Fannin wrote:

Here is the situation pre-freeway from the 1940 ODOT map.

http://www.roadfan.com/oh194008.JPG

Short-lived SR-541 (c.1937-1942) runs along Heisley.

The east end of SR-283 was also the north end of SR-44.

Current SR-44 north of SR-283 was new construction.

marmar5

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May 11, 2008, 5:02:08 PM5/11/08
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On May 11, 2:33 pm, Marc Fannin <musxf...@kent.edu> wrote:
> Marc Fannin wrote:
> > Steve A. wrote:
>
> > > Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
> > > update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
> > > photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
> > > Ohio Roads section of my website -http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.

> > > Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
> > > Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
> > > at. As always, highlights are summarized athttp://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.

> > > Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.
>
> >http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/oh_44/:
>
> > "These are all northbound, including the last one on the OH 2 WB
> > duplex. For some reason, OH 44 doesn't have an interchange with this
> > particular cross-country US highway. It does have an old alignment to
> > the west, where it returns via OH 2, and then continues north to end
> > at Headlands Beach."
>
> > SR-44 does have an indirect interchange with US-20, and its old
> > alignment is to the east (north of Chardon, the current alignment
> > never meets the old one). See various parts of
> >http://www.roadfan.com/paine.html
>
> > _____________________________________________________________________
> > Marc Fannin|musxf579 @hotmail.com|http://www.roadfan.com/
>
> > [Also at Y!GLR]
>
> Here is the situation pre-freeway from the 1940 ODOT map.
>
> http://www.roadfan.com/oh194008.JPG
>
> Short-lived SR-541 (c.1937-1942) runs along Heisley.
>
> The east end of SR-283 was also the north end of SR-44.
>
> Current SR-44 north of SR-283 was new construction.
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Marc Fannin|musxf579 @hotmail.com|http://www.roadfan.com/

Marc:

I enjoyed the Akron Virtual Roadtrip, having grown up there. The site
mentions the Akronism of "devil's strip" as a term for the space
between the street and the sidewalk. Yes, we all called it that.
Another Akronism were the street signs that read "DON'T PARK" (instead
of NO PARKING). Does Akron still have those?

Larry Harvilla

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May 12, 2008, 4:31:16 AM5/12/08
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Larry Harvilla wrote:
> Steve A. wrote:
>> Many thanks to Bill Donovan and Doug Kerr for the biggest single-state
>> update I've ever seen or done. I counted. 1,054 new and updated Ohio
>> photos have been uploaded to the thoroughly renovated and much better
>> Ohio Roads section of my website - http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/.
>> Highlights include the OH 534 covered bridge, MLK Jr. Drive in
>> Cleveland, and more button copy than Connecticut can shake a stick
>> at. As always, highlights are summarized at http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/.
>> Comments, information, corrections, submissions, etc. always welcome.
>
>
>
> A little correction on all the stuff named "Miami" in SW OH that you
> talked about on the I-71 page ...
>
> Everything bearing that name, and for that matter its linguistic
> corruption "Maumee," is actually named after a Native American tribe
> that dominated western Ohio and eastern Indiana before European settlement.
>
> There are actually two rivers, the Great Miami and the Little Miami, and
> neither of them is at milepost 50 of I-71. The highly scenic crossing of
> the Little Miami is around milepost 35, and I-71 actually doesn't cross
> the Great Miami, which runs west of Cincinnati at that point. [see
> footnote]

(snip here)

Damn it, I let a day go by before I realized I forgot my footnote. :-P

What I was going to say in the footnote is that the Great Miami River is
actually used to delineate the western boundary of Ohio (the OH-IN state
line). Specifically, that boundary is defined to be a line beginning in
the middle of the mouth of the Great Miami, where it meets the Ohio
River, and running due north from there to the Michigan state line.

Jon Morse

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May 12, 2008, 8:16:44 PM5/12/08
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Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2008-05-11, Larry Harvilla <la...@phatpage.org> wrote:
>
>> The university is actually called Miami University, not the University
>> of Miami. That's actually MU's preferred way to differentiate the two,
>> as they don't particularly care for being called "Miami of Ohio," or so
>> they say. The "University of Miami" is the one located in Coral Gables, FL.
>
> Right. To clarify further, IIRC MU's actual name is Miami University of Ohio.

Nope. It's just "Miami University".

--
Jon Morse
Herndon, VA

Marc Fannin

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May 16, 2008, 4:05:58 PM5/16/08
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On May 11, 5:02 pm, marmar5 <marm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I enjoyed the Akron Virtual Roadtrip, having grown up there.  The site
> mentions  the Akronism of "devil's strip" as a term for the space
> between the street and the sidewalk.  Yes, we all called it that.
> Another Akronism were the street signs that read "DON'T PARK" (instead
> of NO PARKING).  Does Akron still have those?

Thanks, but I don't remember any. (This was mentioned here in 2000 as
well but no conclusion then, either.) Unfortunately both of the last
times I've been in Akron it was brief - in 2004, just skirting the
north side, and last year passing through twice in one day on SR-8 and
I-77. I contacted an Akron roadgeek, but he hasn't replied yet
(that's the reason for the delay in replying). I'll keep an eye out
if I'm down that way again soon.

_______________________________________________________________________________
Marc Fannin|musxf579 @hotmail.com|http://www.roadfan.com/ (m.t.r FAQ,
etc.)

wdon...@uakron.edu

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May 16, 2008, 9:24:00 PM5/16/08
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The Akron roadgeek isn't me, but I can say that I don't see any "Don't
Park" signs around these days. There are a few signs advising not to
park on the devilstrip, though....

Sadly, a lot of old signs in Akron have disappeared lately....they've
been on a rampage with new street sign blades, and a lot of button
copy on the expressways has disappeared lately, including some that
was put up not that long ago itself (while some much older signage
that really needs replaced oddly isn't replaced).

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