Which states have used sequential exit numbers?
SPUI
Turnpike is not enough to call NJ a sequential state. In the case of
Georgia, Interstates have been renumbered but not state routes. This is
enough to count as not being sequential.
In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are not
used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never used.
AL N?
AK no exit numbers
AZ N?
AR N?
CA NV
CO N?
CT Y
DE Y
DC Y
FL Y - will change soon
GA NF
HI N?
ID N?
IL N?
IN N?
IA N?
KS N?
KY N?
LA N?
ME Y - may change soon
MD N?
MA Y - has used MILE XX tabs
MI N?
MN N?
MS NF
MO N?
MT N?
NE N?
NV N?
NH Y
NJ N?
NM N?
NY Y
NC N?
ND NF
OH N?
OK N?
OR N?
PA NF
RI Y - has used MILE XX tabs
SC N?
SD N?
TN N?
TX N?
UT N?
VT Y
VA NF
WA N?
WV N?
WI N?
WY N?
Which of these have actually used sequential numbers, and which have always
been mile-based?
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least 20 years ago.
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Emi Melissa Briet
Only on I-93 though, as far as I know, as an experiment. Miles were
counted from it's original southern terminus at US-1 in downtown Boston
and they stayed posted that way until the exits were re-numbered to
their current positions in the mid-1980s. Some of the smaller freeways
(MA-28, US-1) don't carry any exit numbers at all.
Minnesota (mile-based?):
Minnesota only numbers exits on the Interstates, and they are
mile-based. US, State, and County freeways (yes, at one time there were
CH freeways in the Twin Cities area) do not have numbered exits and
never did.
Illinois (mile-based?):
See Minnesota. One exception is the tollways have no exit numbers as
well.
Iowa (mile-based?):
Yes...even on non-Interstates (a lone exit on a small freeway-portion of
US-63 north of Waterloo is "Exit 175"), though the small US-218 freeway
in Waterloo carries no numbers.
Wisconsin (mile-based?):
Yes...even on non-Interstates (as evidenced by the US-41 and US-12/18
freeways.
New Jersey (mile-based?):
Only on NJ-444 (GSP). NJ-18, NJ-700/I-95 (Pike), I-295, I-195, and
I-287 are all numbered sequentially....unless they changed since 1998.
--Emi-chan
Adam Froehlig
> In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are
> not used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were
> never used.
>
V
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SPUI
"Emi Melissa Briet" <e...@emiofbrie.com> wrote in message
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> Massachusetts (sequential, but once used "MILE xx" tabs):
> Only on I-93 though, as far as I know, as an experiment. Miles were
> counted from it's original southern terminus at US-1 in downtown Boston
> and they stayed posted that way until the exits were re-numbered to
> their current positions in the mid-1980s. Some of the smaller freeways
> (MA-28, US-1) don't carry any exit numbers at all.
>
> Minnesota (mile-based?):
> Minnesota only numbers exits on the Interstates, and they are
> mile-based. US, State, and County freeways (yes, at one time there were
> CH freeways in the Twin Cities area) do not have numbered exits and
> never did.
With the question mark I mean that I'm not sure if it was always mile-based,
or if it was once sequential.
Raymond C Martin Jr
> Only on NJ-444 (GSP). NJ-18, NJ-700/I-95 (Pike), I
> -295, I-195, and I-287 are all numbered
> sequentially....unless they changed since 1998.
Where in the world did u get the idea that any of
those roads are numbered sequentially?! All NJDOT
roads, the Atlantic City Expressway, and the Garden
State Parkway have all (and always) been numbered by
mileage ever since inception, as far as I know. Exit
numbers on I-295, I-195, and NJ 18 have been unchanged
since construction, and are mileage based. You can
verify this by either my own exit lists (and my
pictures) (http://www.njfreeways.com/) or Dan's exit
lists (http://web.mit.edu/spui/www/). I-287's numbers
were changed in 1993 to reflect the dedesignation of
I-95 and extention of I-287 along the lower 5 miles of
the Middlesex Freeway. Only the New Jersey Turnpike
is sequential.
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>
> Where in the world did u get the idea that any of
> those roads are numbered sequentially?!
I drove on all those roads in 1998 (I used to have a boyfriend in Red
Bank)....they seemed to be numbered sequentially O.o
Either that or there are so many exits, that they just SEEMED to be
sequential... I dunno...
I do know, though, that NJ-18 starts at Exit 6, even though it's at Mile
0
--Emi-chan
Kenneth Dancy
"SPUI" <sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote in message
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> I am concerned with the majority of roads; for example the New Jersey
> Turnpike is not enough to call NJ a sequential state. In the case of
> Georgia, Interstates have been renumbered but not state routes. This is
> enough to count as not being sequential.
> In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are not
> used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never
used.
>
>
V
In NC they went from no exit numbers to miledge based exit numbers. ISTR
that in NC, Interstates built in the mid 1970's had them at the beginning,
and older sections that didn't eventually were upgraded. An example of this
is I-40, where the newer section in Hickory did, but Winston-Salem or
Greensboro didn't until later. The first southern interstate that I noticed
that had exit numbers, was I-65 in Alabama.
Christopher Blaney
> I do know, though, that NJ-18 starts at Exit 6, even though it's at Mile
> 0
Actually some roads like NJ 18 and NJ 55 start their exit numbers (and
mileposts) at numbers other than 0 because of *planned* extensions beyond
their southern termini. Twenty miles in the case of NJ 55 (towards the
Garden State Parkway in Cape May County) and six miles in the case of NJ 18
(towards the Brielle (former) Circle). It's highly unlikely that NJ 18 will
be extended; it's somewhat unlikely that NJ 55 will be.
Incidentally, when NJ 24 was completed in 1992, it was started at Mile 0
even though the unfinished "Exit to Nowhere", at "Triborough Boulevard", was
at one time posted Exit 12. In the current numbering scheme it would be Exit
6. My question is, when the existing section of NJ 24 from JFK Parkway to
I-78 was completed in the early 1970s, up until the completion of the
remainder of the highway in the 1990s, were the exits numbered 13A-B-C, 14,
15, etc? I have noted that the exit "tabs" for Exits 8 and 9 are the same
age as the signs (early 1970s) and possibly at one time could have been
"EXIT ____" or been numbered 14 or 15. Exit 9, from westbound, Exit 10, and
Exits 11A-B-C (I-78 West, I-78 East Local, I-78 East Express) have never
been posted.
NJ 21, also, starts its exit numbering at 4 because the freeway section of
21 starts at milepost 4 -- the old McCarter highway still being arterial.
Chris Blaney
AKirsc5653
England states, New York, Florida, and maybe Delware. Pennsylvania is changing
to mile-based exits right now as we speak. I didn't even know DC had exit
numbers, and I though Maryland had mile-based (though I could be wrong on that
one.)
:-) Andrew "MisterK" Kirschner
Elkins, H.B.
interstates were on I-75 at the Lexington exits. The KY 418, US 60, US
27-68 and KY 922 exits had numbers. I can't remember them off the top
of my head with certainty, but I believe Exit 16 was KY 922, 15 was US
27-68, 14 was US 60 and 13 was KY 922.
Funny thing was, they really weren't sequential. For one thing, it's
easy to see that the I-64 east exit was omitted. Then if you count
backwards, and don't count the KY 595 exit at Berea which has been
built in the last 15 years, you still don't get Exit 1 being the KY 92
exit at Williamsburg.
AFAIK these were the only numbered exits in Kentucky until the entire
state went to milepost-based exits in the 1970s.
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>
> MI N?
Indeed. AFAIK, I-94 was the first Michigan freeway to receive exit
numbers in the 1960s, and those were mileage-based from day one.
Later,
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SPUI
"Elkins, H.B." <hbel...@restrictorplates.mis.net> wrote in message
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> The only sequential exit numbers I can ever remember on Kentucky's
> interstates were on I-75 at the Lexington exits. The KY 418, US 60, US
> 27-68 and KY 922 exits had numbers. I can't remember them off the top
> of my head with certainty, but I believe Exit 16 was KY 922, 15 was US
> 27-68, 14 was US 60 and 13 was KY 922.
>
> Funny thing was, they really weren't sequential. For one thing, it's
> easy to see that the I-64 east exit was omitted. Then if you count
> backwards, and don't count the KY 595 exit at Berea which has been
> built in the last 15 years, you still don't get Exit 1 being the KY 92
> exit at Williamsburg.
>
> AFAIK these were the only numbered exits in Kentucky until the entire
> state went to milepost-based exits in the 1970s.
I just took a look at http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/grenbrgr/maps/cont.html
, and it shows exit numbers on several of the (former) toll roads. Nothing
on I-75 though - I-75 hadn't been completed yet. The USGS topos on
Terraserver don't reveal any old numbers either, except that it labels exit
25 as exit 24, prolly by accident.
Sherman Cahal
> > interstates were on I-75 at the Lexington exits. The KY 418, US 60, US
> > 27-68 and KY 922 exits had numbers. I can't remember them off the top
> > of my head with certainty, but I believe Exit 16 was KY 922, 15 was US
> > 27-68, 14 was US 60 and 13 was KY 922.
> >
> > Funny thing was, they really weren't sequential. For one thing, it's
> > easy to see that the I-64 east exit was omitted. Then if you count
> > backwards, and don't count the KY 595 exit at Berea which has been
> > built in the last 15 years, you still don't get Exit 1 being the KY 92
> > exit at Williamsburg.
> >
> > AFAIK these were the only numbered exits in Kentucky until the entire
> > state went to milepost-based exits in the 1970s.
>
> I just took a look at
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/grenbrgr/maps/cont.html
> , and it shows exit numbers on several of the (former) toll roads. Nothing
> on I-75 though - I-75 hadn't been completed yet. The USGS topos on
> Terraserver don't reveal any old numbers either, except that it labels
exit
> 25 as exit 24, prolly by accident.
I have a few old maps of Kentucky's Parkways from the 60 through the 80's
which I will scan in eventually when I have the time (tommorrow?). It shows
the sequential exit numbers on the parkways but I think the interstates are
mile-based. I'll take a look at it tommorrow and scan them in.
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>AZ N?
Old maps show sequential numbers on I-40; other freeways at the time
didn't have exits numbered. See the Flagstaff blowup from 1971:
http://www.arizonaroads.com/maps/1971-7.jpg
By 1976, they were mile-based.
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James Lin
> Massachusetts (sequential, but once used "MILE xx" tabs):
> Only on I-93 though, as far as I know, as an experiment.
I-91 use them too. At least, they were used in the mid-1980s.
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swissJohn29
>
> TX N?
Can't vouch for the mile/sequential numbering statewide, but I
remember that US 75(Central Expwy.) going north from downtown Dallas
used sequential exits till December 1999 when the Central redo between
downtown and I-635 was finished. Now the redone section is
mile-based, while north of I-635 the US 75 exits are still sequential.
john cline ii
before many of you whippersnappers were borned (tee hee), I was a
student at the University of Kentucky (for five years, as a matter of
fact). This would have been from the mid-1970's to 1980.
Back then, the exit for UK for those of us venturing to the big city
of Lexington from Ashland, was the first exit off the combined I64/I75
after leaving the solo I64West--Exit 17. The re-numbering occurred
VERY early during my college days. It may have even occurred before
then. For MANY years, the mile designated exit there also was noted
as being Formerly Exit 17.
Even back then, though, I64 was most definitely NOT sequentially
numbered. I75 was to me a somewhat foreign and enticing road, one
that I did not have the funds to explore much. My memory says that
I75 was indeed at one time numbered sequentially, exit-wise, but I-64,
at least east of Lexington was always exited by reference to miles
(there was civilization west of Lexington? Couldn't have proved it by
me, I was an Eastern Kentucky boy and never ventured west of
Lexington, at least not without the parents! Heck, I may been eaten
by a bear or something! :) )
john cline ii who suddenly feels very ancient indeed...
Mike St.
> Yes...even on non-Interstates (as evidenced by the US-41 and US-12/18
> freeways.
>
Except District 2 (Waukesha) - The non-interstate freeways there have
no posted exit numbers outside of Milwaukee/Meno. Falls.
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I do know that when I drove the GSP in the New York Metro area last summer,
it was mile-based exits.
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akirs...@cs.com (AKirsc5653) wrote:
Maryland's are mile-based; however, the two toll roads, the Kennedy Hwy and
Harbor Tunnel Thruway, originally had sequential numbers (for all I know,
the HTT still does -- it was an odd sequence, though: the numbers increased
going away from the tolls, with odd numbers S of it and even numbers N of
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<sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote:
> In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are not
> used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never used.
>
[list deleted]
>
> Which of these have actually used sequential numbers, and which have always
> been mile-based?
MO, KS and IA have never used sequential exit numbers -- exits were
unnumbered prior to adoption of mile-based numbers.
The Kansas Turnpike had sequential* exit numbers printed on toll tickets,
but not posted on signs.
*One number -- 13 -- was out-of-sequence: the K-177 interchange was added
after the Turnpike was completed in 1956.
Frank Curcio
<e...@emiofbrie.com> writes:
>New Jersey (mile-based?):
>Only on (GSP)
[snip]
>numbered sequentially....unless they changed since 1998.
Actually, Emi-chan, the GSP, which opened in 1955, was the first highway
anywhere to offer milepost based exit numbering.
In New Jersey, only the NJTP retains sequential exit numbering. In fact, the
NJTP is one of the few roads where a case *in favor* of sequential number can
be made, IMO.
It is a short (relatively) highway, with relatively few exits. And as a ticket
tollroad, it is essentially a closed system - i.e., once on, you're on for
the duration.
Regards,
Frank
Steve Anderson
>
> In article <3B3280F6...@emiofbrie.com>, Emi Melissa Briet
> <e...@emiofbrie.com> writes:
>
> >New Jersey (mile-based?):
> >Only on (GSP)
> [snip]
> >numbered sequentially....unless they changed since 1998.
>
> Actually, Emi-chan, the GSP, which opened in 1955, was the first highway
> anywhere to offer milepost based exit numbering.
>
The Palisades Interstate Parkway also has sequential exit numbering. As
a matter of fact, the sequential exit numbering scheme on the parkway
continues north into New York State.
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Steve Anderson
>
> In article <20010621222603...@ng-xa1.news.cs.com>,
> akirs...@cs.com (AKirsc5653) wrote:
>
> > As far as I know, the only states which number exits sequentially are the
> 6 New
> > England states, New York, Florida, and maybe Delware. Pennsylvania is changing
> > to mile-based exits right now as we speak. I didn't even know DC had exit
> > numbers, and I though Maryland had mile-based (though I could be wrong on that
> > one.)
>
> Maryland's are mile-based; however, the two toll roads, the Kennedy Hwy and
> Harbor Tunnel Thruway, originally had sequential numbers (for all I know,
> the HTT still does -- it was an odd sequence, though: the numbers increased
> going away from the tolls, with odd numbers S of it and even numbers N of
> it, or was that vice versa?)
>
numbers when it was reconstructed in the early 1990's. The old exit
numbering scheme for the Harbor Tunnel Thruway sounds right, however.
On the John F. Kennedy Highway/Northeast Expressway, the sequential exit
numbers began at I-695 (?), and continued into Delaware along the
Delaware Turnpike. The Delaware Turnpike received a separate exit
numbering scheme in the early 1970's, the JFK Highway (I-95) went to the
Maryland-standard mileage-based exits in the mid-1980's.
Michael King
count as a "Yes" since all those roads were sequentially numbered to begin
with. Most of them have switched over to mileage based systems in the last
ten to fifteen years though.
M
"SPUI" <sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote in message
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Elkins, H.B.
>Back then, the exit for UK for those of us venturing to the big city
>of Lexington from Ashland, was the first exit off the combined I64/I75
>after leaving the solo I64West--Exit 17. The re-numbering occurred
>VERY early during my college days. It may have even occurred before
>then. For MANY years, the mile designated exit there also was noted
>as being Formerly Exit 17
That would have been Paris Pike (US 27/68), right?
OK, then Exit 18 would have been Newtown Pike, Exit 16 Winchester
Road, and Exit 15 Athens-Boonesboro.
Clays Ferry North-Exit 14
Clays Ferry South-Exit 13
Boonesboro-Exit 12
North Richmond-Exit 11
South Richmond-Exit 10
KY 595 Berea not yet built)
KY 21 Berea-Exit 9
Mt. Vernon north-Exit 8
Mt. Vernon south-Exit 7
Livingston KY 909-Exit 6
London KY 80-Exit 5
London KY 192-Exit 4
Corbin US 25E-Exit 3
Corbin US25W-Exit 2
Williamsburg US 25W-Exit 1
Williamsburg KY 92-????
It just doesn't add up....
SPUI
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> I am concerned with the majority of roads; for example the New Jersey
> Turnpike is not enough to call NJ a sequential state. In the case of
> Georgia, Interstates have been renumbered but not state routes. This is
> enough to count as not being sequential.
> In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are not
> used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never
used.
>
> AL N?
> AK no exit numbers
> AZ NF
> AR N?
> CA NV
> CO NF
> CT Y
> DE Y
> DC Y
> FL Y - will change soon
> GA NF
> HI N?
> ID N?
> IL NV
> IN N?
> IA NF
> KS NV
> KY NF
> LA N?
> ME Y - may change soon
> MD NF - only beltways and the JFK Hwy were sequential
> MA Y - has used MILE XX tabs
> MI NV
> MN NV
> MS NF
> MO NV
> MT N?
> NE N?
> NV N?
> NH Y
> NJ N?
> NM N?
> NY Y
> NC NV
> ND NF
> OH NF
> OK N?
> OR N?
> PA NF
> RI Y - has used MILE XX tabs
> SC N?
> SD NF
> TN NF
> TX NF - only US 75 north from Dallas and I-45 and US 59 in Houston were
sequential
> UT N?
> VT Y
> VA NF
> WA N?
> WV NF
> WI N?
> WY NF
Pat O'Connell
>
> I just looked at a bunch of 1970s AAA Triptiks I have and got some new info:
>
> "SPUI" <sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote in message
> news:vxuY6.29461$_T2.7...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
> > I am concerned with the majority of roads; for example the New Jersey
> > Turnpike is not enough to call NJ a sequential state. In the case of
> > Georgia, Interstates have been renumbered but not state routes. This is
> > enough to count as not being sequential.
> > In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are not
> > used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never
> used.
> >
> > IN N?
NF
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SPUI
"Pat O'Connell" <nvc...@att.net> wrote in message
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Did any other roads in Indiana use sequential numbers, or just the Toll
Road? Toll roads are considered separate here because they often don't
follow the trend in the state (two opposite examples are NJ and FL).
MCT
I had always assumed that the sequential vs. mile-based issue was like
the freeway vs. expressway issue: certain parts of the country did it
one way, others did it another, and it had always been that way (I live
in the northeast and am most familar with sequential).
A different picture is emerging from this thread, however. It appears
that sequential numbering was once more widespread than today, even in
areas outside the east. It also appears that the "California method"
(no exit numbering at all) was also once fairly common. There may have
actually been a time when sequential numbering was the most popular
method, with no numbering second, and mile-based third.
Frank had mentioned that mile-based numbering started with the Garden
State Parkway. When exactly did mile-based numbering sweep the nation,
and was there any particular reason why? I realize that many roadgeeks
and highway professionals feel that mile-based is better. But that
alone wouldn't seem to account for it.
The two systems involve such different mindsets (counting vs. distance)
that I'm surprised that so many states have switched from sequential to
mile-based. Many people accustomed to one system seem to be bewildered
by the other; they are so used to the counting mindset or the distance
mindset that they have a hard time grapsing the other. I've seen
numerous posts here from people used to sequential, who basically feel
that mile-based simply makes no sense at all, and vice versa.
I would think that lawmakers and members of the general public who are
used to sequential wouldn't care if a bunch of roadgeeks and civil
engineers feel that mile-based is better, and would in fact actually be
resistant to changing because they're so used to what they have. Much
like the general public probably doesn't care about, say, I-99 (as was
alluded to in another thread)....
john cline ii
"Elkins, H.B." wrote:
> "john cline ii" wrote:
>
> >Back then, the exit for UK for those of us venturing to the big
city
> >of Lexington from Ashland, was the first exit off the combined
I64/I75
> >after leaving the solo I64West--Exit 17. The re-numbering occurred
> >VERY early during my college days. It may have even occurred
before
> >then. For MANY years, the mile designated exit there also was
noted
> >as being Formerly Exit 17
>
> That would have been Paris Pike (US 27/68), right?
RIGHT....the exit with Congress Inn and Catalina Inn on it (before
Days Inn was built! and Catalina Inn had a Whirling Satellite just
like the ones at BBF!)
> OK, then Exit 18 would have been Newtown Pike, Exit 16 Winchester
> Road, and Exit 15 Athens-Boonesboro.
>
> Clays Ferry North-Exit 14
> Clays Ferry South-Exit 13
> Boonesboro-Exit 12
> North Richmond-Exit 11
> South Richmond-Exit 10
> KY 595 Berea not yet built)
> KY 21 Berea-Exit 9
> Mt. Vernon north-Exit 8
> Mt. Vernon south-Exit 7
> Livingston KY 909-Exit 6
> London KY 80-Exit 5
> London KY 192-Exit 4
> Corbin US 25E-Exit 3
> Corbin US25W-Exit 2
> Williamsburg US 25W-Exit 1
> Williamsburg KY 92-????
>
> It just doesn't add up....
Apparently at least one of those exits were not numbered originally
(probably because it was built later????) Or the North South thing
for Clays Ferry was an A/B or something. Come on anybody, got an OLD
map WITH exit numbers? (yeah, I know, an odd combination!)
john cline ii who, as he said, back then did not go down I75 due to
lack of funds!
SPUI
"john cline ii" <jwciit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Apparently at least one of those exits were not numbered originally
> (probably because it was built later????) Or the North South thing
> for Clays Ferry was an A/B or something. Come on anybody, got an OLD
> map WITH exit numbers? (yeah, I know, an odd combination!)
Definitely something I've noticed - the only exit numbers on many old maps
are on toll roads. Most old NYC area maps have exit numbers on all the roads
(and there were a lot - http://spui.cjb.net/boston/nycexitnumbers.html ),
but statewide maps didn't have many. One very useful source for exit numbers
is old AAA Triptiks, which even have the exit numbers on I-10 in CA.
Pat O'Connell
>
> "Pat O'Connell" <nvc...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:3B35571A...@att.net...
> > SPUI wrote:
> > >
> > > I just looked at a bunch of 1970s AAA Triptiks I have and got some new
> info:
> > >
> > > "SPUI" <sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote in message
> > > news:vxuY6.29461$_T2.7...@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com...
> > > > I am concerned with the majority of roads; for example the New Jersey
> > > > Turnpike is not enough to call NJ a sequential state. In the case of
> > > > Georgia, Interstates have been renumbered but not state routes. This
> is
> > > > enough to count as not being sequential.
> > > > In this list, Y means that they are still used and N means they are
> not
> > > > used. F means they were used at one time, and V means they were never
> > > used.
> > > >
> > [snip]
> > > > IN N?
> >
> > NF
> > The Indiana Toll Road had sequential exit numbers at one time.
>
> Did any other roads in Indiana use sequential numbers, or just the Toll
> Road? Toll roads are considered separate here because they often don't
> follow the trend in the state (two opposite examples are NJ and FL).
I think sequential markers were used only on the Toll Road. The rest of
the Interstates either had no exit numbers (early 60s?) or they had mile
markers.
--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...
Christopher Blaney
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> The Kansas Turnpike had sequential* exit numbers printed on toll tickets,
> but not posted on signs.
Has or had the Kansas Turnpike ever posted interchange "names" a la the
Pennsylvania Turnpike, with or without its numbers?
Somewhere in my travels I think I have seen such a thing, on one of those
"storm chaser" TV shows that appear on the Discovery Channel or PBS now and
then, in one of those quick shots of the "storm chaser" driving along
chasing the storm.
Is the PA Turnpike, then, unique in posting interchange "names" in this way?
BTW, when were the exits on the PA Turnpike "numbered"? Were the original
section's exits given posted numbers? The maps and toll tickets, I gather,
used the numbers 1 through 9 from the western-terminus gate (Irwin) to the
eastern terminus gate (Middlesex). Irwin's now the name of an interchange
(old Exit 7) and Middlesex is no more (one mile east of Carlisle, old Exit
16).
I'm assuming that if the PA Turnpike was numbered, it was done after the
completion of the NE Extension, as there are only two "A" exits, 1A and 25A,
both built in the 1990s. (Keyser Ave. was added in the 1990s but got Clarks
Summit's old number -- 38 -- while Clarks Summit got the next number, 39.
This could be done because the ticket system ends just north of Wilkes-Barre
exit 36.)
Chris Blaney
Christopher Blaney
news:3B33B7A7...@erols.com...
> On the John F. Kennedy Highway/Northeast Expressway, the sequential exit
> numbers began at I-695 (?), and continued into Delaware along the
> Delaware Turnpike. The Delaware Turnpike received a separate exit
> numbering scheme in the early 1970's, the JFK Highway (I-95) went to the
> Maryland-standard mileage-based exits in the mid-1980's.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the exit numbering on I-695 Balto Beltway
sequential? I'm not just talking "mile sequential", that odd coincidence
where since there's as many exits as miles, and they're rather evenly
spaced, it just comes out that way. I don't seem to recall any Mile Markers
on the Balto. Beltway, either. That new left-hand interchange for that
cut-off boulevard, MD 43, is numbered 31C, as it comes after (or before) 31A
and B.
Chris Blaney
SPUI
"Christopher Blaney" <cbl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm - looks like you're right. The Washington, Baltimore, and Frederick
beltways had sequential numbering, and the first and third were renumbered.
I guess they never got around to I-695, since it is so close.
Jeff Kitsko
> BTW, when were the exits on the PA Turnpike "numbered"? Were the original
> section's exits given posted numbers? The maps and toll tickets, I gather,
> used the numbers 1 through 9 from the western-terminus gate (Irwin) to the
> eastern terminus gate (Middlesex). Irwin's now the name of an interchange
> (old Exit 7) and Middlesex is no more (one mile east of Carlisle, old Exit
> 16).
From what I gathered, there were originally 11 numbered exits. The new, and
current (for a little while more) exit numbers came onto the scene when the
Western and Philadelphia Extensions were built, since both opened at
relatively the same time frame.
> I'm assuming that if the PA Turnpike was numbered, it was done after the
> completion of the NE Extension, as there are only two "A" exits, 1A and
25A,
> both built in the 1990s. (Keyser Ave. was added in the 1990s but got
Clarks
> Summit's old number -- 38 -- while Clarks Summit got the next number, 39.
> This could be done because the ticket system ends just north of
Wilkes-Barre
> exit 36.)
Yep, only those two were the only suffixed exits on the Turnpike. After the
exit number conversion, there will no longer be an "A"s left.
--
Jeff Kitsko
Pennsylvania Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/
Pittsburgh Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/pghhwys/
Philadelphia Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/phlhwys/
Exile on Market Street
Blaney" <cbl...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> "Exile on Market Street" <smi...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message
> news:smiths-ya02408000...@netnews.upenn.edu...
>
> > The Kansas Turnpike had sequential* exit numbers printed on toll tickets,
> > but not posted on signs.
>
> Has or had the Kansas Turnpike ever posted interchange "names" a la the
> Pennsylvania Turnpike, with or without its numbers?
The Kansas Turnpike has always posted interchange names on its guide signs.
However, since the interchange names also tend to match primary
destinations, they are not posted in small capital letters between the exit
tab and guide sign proper as they are on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
Instead, they form the destination (e.g., Exit 230-something: US 40/US
59/East Lawrence/2 miles).
Usually, the interchange name is the only destination listed on the guide
sign, but I think there are some exceptions. The Bonner Springs
interchange (K-7, eastern end of the Turnpike) is one: Leavenworth is also
listed as a destination on the guide sign.
> Is the PA Turnpike, then, unique in posting interchange "names" in this way?
I believe so.
Nick Tallyn
Kansas Turnpike. I do recall Bonner Springs (east end), East Lawrence, West
Lawrence, Lecompton, East Topeka, and South Topeka as beiong exits (on the
ticket), but as I usually then took I-470, I can't recall any others.
Derrick Stuart
News on Jefferson Ave. My mom tells me that back then it was exit
61-B, now it is 255-B. So apparently Virginia must have changed over
sometime in the early 90's. Does anyone know why the x64's in Hampton
Roads uses sequential exit numbers? I-664's are even backwards! They
increase as you go southbound!
SPUI
"Nick Tallyn" <nta...@pcisys.net> wrote in message
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> The exits have names on the tickets, but I don't recall about the signs on
the
> Kansas Turnpike. I do recall Bonner Springs (east end), East Lawrence,
West
> Lawrence, Lecompton, East Topeka, and South Topeka as beiong exits (on the
> ticket), but as I usually then took I-470, I can't recall any others.
The signs have the names; otherwise
http://www.route56.com/highways/signs3.html#10111 would simply say Wichita.
Exile on Market Street
<sp...@mit.NOSPDAMMedu> wrote:
> The signs have the names; otherwise
> http://www.route56.com/highways/signs3.html#10111 would simply say Wichita.
So I finally went to Richie Kennedy's Web site. I didn't know Jim Fisher,
the _Kansas City Star's_ resident Mid-Americana columnist (and occasional
_NewsHour with Jim Lehrer_ contributor), had featured him. Well done!
I remember reading about Woody Hockaday and the story behind K-96 in
William Least Heat-Moon's _PrairyErth_. I might suggest that some sort of
waiver to the 10,000-mile law be enacted to preserve this route number
should that ever become necessary.