NC to Establish First Interoperable Toll Road in US
Nick C
technologies all at once
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/05/05/467554/toll-road-wont-stop-you-to-pay.html
The N.C. Turnpike Authority signed a $5.9 million contract Tuesday for
technology that will enable the state to collect tolls electronically on the
18.8-mile Triangle Expressway.
No cash-collection tollbooths are planned for TriEx, now under construction
in Research Triangle Park and western Wake County. The state's first modern
toll road will open in RTP in 2011 and in western Wake in 2012.
Dallas-based TransCore, a unit of Roper Industries, will provide car-mounted
trans ponders for motorists who pay tolls by maintaining debit accounts with
the turnpike authority. Electronic sensors will record toll-road trips.
Drivers without transponders will be billed at a higher rate for tolls,
based on photos of their license plates.
"We are proud that North Carolina will have one of the most technologically
advanced toll operations in the nation," state Transportation Secretary Gene
Conti said. "The implementation of this wireless system will provide
motorists with seamless travel by allowing them to pay tolls at highway
speed."
The contract also will enable North Carolina to collect electronic tolls
from drivers who have E-ZPass transponders and debit accounts with turnpike
agencies in northeastern states, and from those with transponders that use
different technology in Florida, Texas and other southern states.
North Carolina expects to use similar electronic-payment technology for two
toll roads planned near Charlotte and a toll bridge planned on Currituck
Sound.
lil abner
will buy a transponder.
It will have the effect of keeping me an I suspect many more Tourists
from using their road.
Since our Federal Money was used to build these roads these charges in
excess of Resident's rates or transponder owner rates is illegal.
I don't see anywhere that NC Residents and Taxpayers or Citizens support
this tax. Just the special interests and business that sells the
equipment and runs it, for their profits.
rsh...@gmail.com
> Nick C wrote:
> > North Carolina's toll roads look to accept E-ZPass and other toll road
> > technologies all at once
>
jeeeezus fucking christ
lil abner has spoken
everyone in NC just shudder
lil abner has spoken
what are "resident rates"
you think it is ilegal?
who the fuck are you????
so don't use the toll roads. I really don't think they will miss your
two lousy dollars
Larry G
I thought the idea was for out-of-state folks who do have existing
transponders to be able to cashlessly use NC toll roads.
I have an EZ-Pass that I use in several states and if NC if going to
accept that transponder for payment.. I consider that a convenience
that might convince me to take toll road if all I have to do is turn
onto the road and not stop.
If that is the goal of the NCtoll folks, I think they are dead-on
lil abner
Most States, other than the socialist enclaves do not burden their
citizens, or serfs, in the case of north east states and Chicago etc.
The attitudes is flowing don 95. North Carolina was gone by 30 years
ago. It is no longer southern or it's citizens free. They are well
regulated in the woods from Raleigh now.
Froggie
>
> from using their road.
Given that the vast bulk of traffic on that road will be local/
commuter traffic, your complaint really isn't a problem.
Froggie | Alexandria, VA | http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
Larry G
speaking of tolls on interstates - if HOT Lanes are considered legal
on Interstate Highways and HOT Lanes allow solo-driven vehicles - at a
price - would it be possible to add lanes to existing Interstates like
I-95 and I-81 if they were HOT Lanes?
rsh...@gmail.com
several/many thousand tourists who are paranoid fucks like you????
I sincerely doubt it.
Furthermore those several/many thousands of tourists, are from the
northeast where they are used to said tolls.
I might advise you, firstly get some professional help to deal with
your serious paranoia. Secondly, should you live so long, watch over
the next 30 years and see the "most states" you refer to, such as WY
adopt your hated tolls.
Watch and you will see.
Nick C
"Larry G" <gross...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well not only will they accept the various ETC systems, the tags they are
offering will be able to work with all these systems
http://tollroadsnews.com/node/4732
"North Carolina motorists will have the choice of the low cost local
solution of sticker tags, and the $25 cost of the hardcased eZGo transponder
with the capability of paying tolls virtually anywhere in North America. The
eZGo transponders obvious application is to North Carolina's north - in
E-ZPass territory which stretches from West Virginia and Virginia northeast
into Maine and northwest to Illinois."
Otto Yamamoto
Please go to upstate NY, Western Mass, or New Hampshire, or PA and tell
them that they're 'socialist'. They don't know what a 'socialist' is,
either(protip: FUCKING READ MARX or STFU, plsthx.), but I'd wager they
wouldn't take kindly to being called same.
Incidentally, one of the biggest 'socialist enclave' pork barrelers-who
got his very own Interstate number by legislative sleight of hand was
Good olde Bud Shuster. Meanwhile, in the next county over, Jack Murtha
had to scrounge to get Myersdale Bypass built.
--
Otto Yamamoto
Larry G
> "Larry G" <gross.la...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I'm not enamored with the NCTA bait & switch tactics with respect to
roads that start out as toll-only roads that then become not viable as
a toll-only road and will need state funding - without those roads
being recognized from the get go as competing with other projects for
the limited funds available. so they get the road approved and
underway an then they say if you want to actually operate it - it will
need a subsidy because it cannot run just on tolls.
this is not a good thing.
HOWEVER - their concept of a national toll transponder is very
worthwhile in my view and that does show some forward thinking - which
is ironic anyhow because having a national toll transponder is not an
Einstein type idea but really a DUH idea.
george conklin
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A good bit of the toll road was actually built with gas tax money as an
interstate. This represents the tolling of a road built with taxpayer
funds, with only pieces built as a toll road. Further, those pieces will
also lose money, so other needed projects will never be built. In the
meantime, RTP looks like a disaster zone.
mickey
Not the whole truth, there Georgie Boy, not the whole truth.
These toll roads were never planned as interstates, nor was there any
interstate funding for them.
What Larry says is true, they will never collect enough in tolls and
will require money from the state legislature.
"other needed projects will never be built" what does this have to do
with the planned toll roads?
They will never be built because there is no funding, toll or
otherwise, there georgie boy.
Georgie boy, you want them built, use your lobbying efforts on the
state legislature to raise the fuel taxes, there georgie boy.
Othewrwise, georgie boy, quit fucking whining
george conklin
"mickey" <dumdumelkins...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sorry idiot. The interestates were built with taxpayer money and now
they are being tolled. You know this, and being your usual nasty self does
not change the facts.
mickey
> "mickey" <dumdumelkinsisasocial...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
ok, there georgie boy, give some specifics.
which of those toll roads was planned as interstates in NC?
Waiting breathlessly for your response
One other question there, georgie boy
which "needed projects" will never be built in NC because of the toll
roads?