Automatic de-icer on I-78
richard_l_...@yahoo.com
automatic spray de-icers in the roadway of I-78 on the west side of
Musconetcong Mountain. Does anyone have them in their areas who could
give comments on them?
BTW, my trip was from Butler NJ to south central PA including Reading,
Lancaster and Harrisburg. The routes involved were county 694, I-287,
I-78, PA 33,US 22, PA 100, US 222, US 322, PA 897, PA 340, US 30, PA
283, I-283, I-83, US 11/15, I-81, I-78, US 22, NJ 57, NJ 1xx, US 46,
I-80, I-287, NJ 23. Total miles of 384 in 9 1/2 hours with stops at
the Easton welcome center, Ehrata (Arbys, Wal-Mart), Shartlesville
(Stuckeys and it wasn't the best of the chain), Hamburg (Burger King by
Cabella's), and Hackettstown (Raceway gasoline).
Rich Dean
John Lansford
wrote:
>Yesterday while on a short dayride I noticed that NJDOT has installed
>automatic spray de-icers in the roadway of I-78 on the west side of
>Musconetcong Mountain. Does anyone have them in their areas who could
>give comments on them?
The Laurel Creek Bridge on the new section of I-26 north of Mars Hill
in NC has deicing sprayers.
John Lansford, PE
--
The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage:
http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
Steve
> Yesterday while on a short dayride I noticed that NJDOT has installed
> automatic spray de-icers in the roadway of I-78 on the west side of
> Musconetcong Mountain. Does anyone have them in their areas who could
> give comments on them?
>
> BTW, my trip was from Butler NJ to south central PA including Reading,
> Lancaster and Harrisburg. The routes involved were county 694, I-287,
> I-78, PA 33,US 22, PA 100, US 222, US 322, PA 897, PA 340, US 30, PA
> 283, I-283, I-83, US 11/15, I-81, I-78, US 22, NJ 57, NJ 1xx
182. Way back, NJ 57 was NJ 24, and then 24 turned right at the end of
57 (and end of 24 decommissioned in 1992) and followed that decommed
route into Morristown and along current NJ 124 straight on into Newark.
As such, it was one of the longest east-west roads in the state. When
57 took over, 57 and 24 met at a corner. 46 was dualized just east of
there, and the intent was to extend 57 a bit further as a Hackettstown
Bypass to tie into 46. For some inexplicable reason, rather than sign
the little road connecting 57/24 to US 46 as NJ 24, it got designated NJ
182, possibly because 24 was county-maintained east of there whereas 182
is state-maintained. Once 57 died, NJDOT never bothered turning 57 left
and absorbing that little 3-digit route.
--
Steve
Civil Engineering (Course 1) at MIT
Steve
Addendum: NJ 182 was numbered NJ 57 in 1953, and NJ 24 followed the "way
back" route above. The inexplicable part is that 57 was pushed westward
along the rest of 24, but taken off that short piece of 182 - IMO it
should have stayed until the bypass was built. (When I say "Once 57
died", I mean the idea of the bypass.)
Nick C
<richard_l_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110144478....@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Yesterday while on a short dayride I noticed that NJDOT has installed
> automatic spray de-icers in the roadway of I-78 on the west side of
> Musconetcong Mountain. Does anyone have them in their areas who could
> give comments on them?
>
I have not seen them in action, but there are some in PA as well. The one I
know of is on I-79 at the Edinboro exit (about 25 miles from Erie).
Rick Powell
US 24 west of Eureka, IL. IL has also used brine trucks in the last
few years to spray bridge decks as an anti-icing measure.
The use of brine on bridge decks (as opposed to rock salt) is of some
concern in increasing the chloride content in the bridge decks.
Supposedly the use of green bar (epoxy bars) has countered the effects
of chlorides over the last 20 years or so, but the jury's still out if
brine will be a long-term detriment to structures.
Rick Powell
IDOT District 3
richard_l_...@yahoo.com
Are there warning signs posted? When I came through from Erwin TN
to Asheville on January 16 I didn't notice them. I did fail to mention
that what brought my attention to them on I-78 were the big bold signs
warning the NJDOT people and contractors not to spread any salt in that
area.
Thanks,
Rich Dean
Butler NJ I-287 & NJ 23
John Lansford
wrote:
>
> Are there warning signs posted? When I came through from Erwin TN
>to Asheville on January 16 I didn't notice them. I did fail to mention
>that what brought my attention to them on I-78 were the big bold signs
>warning the NJDOT people and contractors not to spread any salt in that
>area.
I'm not aware of any warning signs. The video I've seen of them in
operation doesn't look like they spray very high into the air, and the
maintenance people in the area are well aware that the bridge is self
deicing.