CHARTER: misc.transport.*
Andrew Toppan
[This message is posted twice monthly for readers' information]
Newsgroups lines:
misc.transport.urban-transit Metropolitan public transportation systems.
misc.transport.air-industry Airlines, airports, commercial aircraft.
(Moderated)
misc.transport.air-industry.cargo Questions/comments regarding air
cargo.
(Moderated)
misc.transport.trucking Commercial trucking related issues.
misc.transport.marine Maritime and inland waterways transportation.
misc.transport.misc General transportation issues.
misc.transport.road Road and highway transportation.
misc.transport.rail.* charters are listed separately.
CHARTER: misc.transport.urban-transit
The newsgroup will serves as a forum for the discussion of urban public
transportation systems, emphasizing - but not limited to - rail and
bus transit systems in metropolitan centers worldwide. Within this charter
will be discussion of all aspects of public transit, including planning,
financing, selection of routes and equipment, operating procedures, histor-
ical factoids, sociological implications, etc. It is NOT intended to sup-
plant any existing newsgroup. It should not be seen as an extension of
misc.transport.rail.*, whose charter includes at least three areas
(long-distance travel, freight railroads, and recreational fan trips)
that are at most tangential to misc.transport.urban-transit.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.transport.air-industry
This would be a moderated newsgroup providing a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of the airline industry. These discussions
would include, but are not limited to:
* Airline deregulation in Europe, effect on member states, and passengers.
* The financial health (or lack thereof) of airlines.
* Airliner models as related to airline routes, resource allocation,
capacity, etc.
* Comments about the industry from insiders (most US airlines have one
or more employees who read/post to the net, we hope to attract serious
comments from these posters to this group).
* Discussion of all aspects of airline management.
* Announcement of fare changes and discussion of their effects on
airline yields.
Topics can range from small cargo charter operations in the far east to
major international passenger carriers such as British Airways,
American, or Lufthansa. All aspects of commercial aviation operations
are welcome.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.transport.air-industry.cargo
Discussion will be allowed on a variety of subjects deemed either too
specific in nature or inappropriate by the charters of the existing
newsgroups. Individuals and companies will be allowed to request and
trade information and comments on the status of the air cargo
industry. Exportation questions would be addressed for the beginner
as well as specific inquires by shippers. (i.e. "Who supplies ground
handling in Merida, Mexico?" or "How do I clear customs in
Austrailia?") Shared experiences of both the air cargo and forwarding
community would provide immensely helpful information to each other in
regard to the do's and don'ts of dealing with unfamiliar airports,
cultures, regulations, companies, procedures, and governments.
Discussions of a political/violent/inflammatory/abusive nature will
not be allowed. Any blatant advertisements, illegal rate discussions,
or overblown press releases will likewise be excluded by the
moderators. This is not a group in which general aviation or
passenger flights may be discussed - there are other groups for those
categories. This group is purely intended for those who own, import,
export, operate in, or are interested in the business of air cargo and
domestic/international air shipping procedures. The group will be
moderated by experts in the field of air cargo and freight forwarding.
They will insure the validity of posts and eliminate repetitive,
redundant, illegal, and obviously inappropriate posts. All
nationalities of airlines will be allowed. The language of the group
will be English.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.transport.air-industry.cargo
Moderator: Jim Powell <jpo...@ix.netcom.com>
Moderator: Martin Brennan <bre...@interport.net>
Moderator: Michal Douglas <airc...@cris.com>
Administrative contact address: airc...@cris.com
Article submission address: airc...@cris.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: misc.transport.trucking
The proposed unmoderated newsgroup misc.transport.trucking will be open
to discussions on all topics related to the trucking industry. The
following are some, but not all, of the allowed topics:
highway safety
new regulations
new equipment
truck stops with computer modem friendly phones
truck shows
maintenance tips
family issues unique to "over the road" or "long haul" drivers
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.transport.misc
misc.transport.misc is for the discussion of general aspects of
transportation as well as specific modes not covered by specific groups
(such as pipelines).
Commercial posts and advertising are not appropriate for this group,
with the following exceptions:
* individuals seeking to buy or sell books, magazines, collector's
items, memorabilia, etc. are permitted.
* announcements of commercial or semi-commercial web sites and
other resources are permitted.
All such commercial or advertising posts should be brief, should not be
posted repeatedly and must be clearly related to the topics the group is
meant to discuss. Frequent reposting of the same or similar articles is
specifically prohibited.
Binary and encoded posts of any sort are prohibited.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.transport.marine
misc.transport.marine is for the open discussion of all issues relating
to marine transportation of all time periods. This includes essentially
all shipment via vessels of any sort.
The discussion will include, but is in no way limited to, history,
operations, customs and traditions, technology, equipment, political,
economic and social issues relating to inland waterways transportation,
maritime transportation, merchant/commercial shipping and the marine
industry. This list is not meant to be all inclusive (it would also
include such topics as decline of the US merchant fleet, cruise ship
safety, ocean liners, clipper ships, etc).
Discussions relating to navies and warships should go to
sci.military.naval. Inquiries about cruise ship schedules, etc. should
be directed to the appropriate rec.travel groups.
Commercial posts and advertising are not appropriate for this group,
with the following exceptions:
* individuals seeking to buy or sell books, magazines, collector's
items, memorabilia, etc. are permitted.
* announcements of commercial or semi-commercial web sites and
other resources are permitted.
All such commercial or advertising posts should be brief, should not be
posted repeatedly and must be clearly related to the topics the group is
meant to discuss. Frequent reposting of the same or similar articles is
specifically prohibited.
Binary and encoded posts of any sort are prohibited.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.transport.road
misc.transport.road is for discussion of all aspects of road/highway
transportation and design not included in other groups (such as
misc.transport.trucking and misc.transport.urban-transit).
Commercial posts and advertising are not appropriate for this group,
with the following exceptions:
* individuals seeking to buy or sell books, magazines, collector's
items, memorabilia, etc. are permitted.
* announcements of commercial or semi-commercial web sites and
other resources are permitted.
All such commercial or advertising posts should be brief, should not be
posted repeatedly and must be clearly related to the topics the group is
meant to discuss. Frequent reposting of the same or similar articles is
specifically prohibited.
END CHARTER.
--
Andrew Toppan --- acto...@gwi.net --- "I speak only for myself"
"Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today,
Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/
Daniel Dey
"Andrew Toppan" <acto...@gwi.net> wrote in message
news:d3eomt0k7jn5dj5aa...@4ax.com...
subscribe to misc.transport.misc, or misc.transport.rail. Can you give me
some idea on how I can get around this?
Daniel Timothy Dey.
David J. Greenberger
> Thanks, Andrew, but I've got a problem. Outlook Express won't let me
> subscribe to misc.transport.misc, or misc.transport.rail. Can you give
> me some idea on how I can get around this?
There is no group called misc.transport.rail. The reference to
"misc.transport.rail.*" is to the groups under that hierarchy.
As for misc.transport.misc, your ISP apparently doesn't carry it. You
can bug the newsadmin to pick it up. Alternatively, look into an
alternative source for news -- I use the excellent free newsserver at
news.cis.dfn.de (go to http://news.cis.dfn.de/ for information and to
sign up). I just looked at m.t.m and found that news.cis.dfn.de does
carry it, but only five posts are showing up, going back to June 5. I
think it's fair to say that you're not missing much.
--
David J. Greenberger
Alan P Howes
<dtd1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Andrew Toppan" <acto...@gwi.net> wrote in message
>news:d3eomt0k7jn5dj5aa...@4ax.com...
<snip>
>>
>Thanks, Andrew, but I've got a problem. Outlook Express won't let me
>subscribe to misc.transport.misc, or misc.transport.rail. Can you give me
>some idea on how I can get around this?
>
>Daniel Timothy Dey.
If you are new to usenet, Daniel, I would respectfully point out that
it's considered "bad form" to quote 203 lines and then add 5. Just
quote what you need to. 'leastways, that's what I was taught ...
--
Alan Howes, currently On the Buses in Dubai, UAE,
- other home in Perthshire. alanin...@yahoo.co.uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/alanhowes/ [Needs Updating!]
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." Edmund Burke, 1729-1797
Martin Edwards
>If you are new to usenet, Daniel, I would respectfully point out that
>it's considered "bad form" to quote 203 lines and then add 5. Just
>quote what you need to. 'leastways, that's what I was taught ...
>--
is a lot of that sort of thing in this group, and I get soooooo bored
scanning a lot of stuff I have already read to reach a two-line
riposte.
******Martin Edwards.******
Come on! Nobody's gonna drive that lousy freeway when you can take the Red Car for a nickel
-Eddy Valiant