AR: I-30 signed north of I-40??
AlbertC79
Encyclopedia, and found something very interesting. Under the Arkansas
article, on the state map, I saw an I-30 shield on what is now the US-67
freeway just north of I-40 near Little Rock. I realize that since the map is
not from a bona-fide road atlas, that this could easily be a simple designation
error, but it does bring up an interesting question. Was I-30 EVER signed
north of I-40 at anytime (early 70s or earlier)? I know there's an ongoing
debate on whether to extend I-30 northeast on US-67, but I am curious if such
signing ever once occured and was removed? Or was this another simple map
goof?
I-540
"AlbertC79" <albe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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GOT to be a map error. I've checked a couple of my "officials" and I-30 has
NEVER gone past I-40.
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> "AlbertC79" <albe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> I was looking through some maps on an old 1973 edition of the World
>> Book Encyclopedia, and found something very interesting. Under the
>> Arkansas article, on the state map, I saw an I-30 shield on what is
>> now the US-67 freeway just north of I-40 near Little Rock. I
>> realize that since the map is not from a bona-fide road atlas, that
>> this could easily be a simple designation error, but it does bring
>> up an interesting question. Was I-30 EVER signed north of I-40 at
>> anytime (early 70s or earlier)? I know there's an ongoing debate on
>> whether to extend I-30 northeast on US-67, but I am curious if such
>> signing ever once occured and was removed? Or was this another
>> simple map goof?
>
> GOT to be a map error. I've checked a couple of my "officials" and
> I-30 has NEVER gone past I-40.
I've never heard of it either.
It is odd, that the US 67 freeway is the only long freeway in Arkansas with
no I-number. All the other US highway freeways that connect to the
Interstate system (US 65, US 62/71, US 63) are now either Interstates or
Future Interstates. I'm surprised that US 67 isn't I-140 or 340 by now.
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>
> It is odd, that the US 67 freeway is the only long freeway in Arkansas
with
> no I-number. All the other US highway freeways that connect to the
> Interstate system (US 65, US 62/71, US 63) are now either Interstates or
> Future Interstates. I'm surprised that US 67 isn't I-140 or 340 by now.
>
Maybe because parts are still under construction??
Clayton Bigsby
> "Clayton Bigsby" <watuzis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> It is odd, that the US 67 freeway is the only long freeway in
>> Arkansas with no I-number. All the other US highway freeways that
>> connect to the Interstate system (US 65, US 62/71, US 63) are now
>> either Interstates or Future Interstates. I'm surprised that US 67
>> isn't I-140 or 340 by now.
>>
>
> Maybe because parts are still under construction??
Parts of future I-130 and I-555 are still under construction, and they have
future I-numbers.
The freeway is I-standard from I-40 to Newport, a distance of over 80 miles.
With AHTD's penchant for giving an Interstate number to every freeway it
can, it's just a little surprising to me that this long freeway doesn't have
the red-white-and blue shields.
Chris Lawrence
> Parts of future I-130 and I-555 are still under construction, and they have
> future I-numbers.
>
> The freeway is I-standard from I-40 to Newport, a distance of over 80 miles.
>
> With AHTD's penchant for giving an Interstate number to every freeway it
> can, it's just a little surprising to me that this long freeway doesn't have
> the red-white-and blue shields.
Newport isn't quite as 3di-worthy as Pine Bluff, Fayetteville, or
Jonesboro. Maybe when the freeway makes it all the way to Hoxie/Walnut
Ridge later this decade, AASHTO will be more disposed to hand out a 3di
number.
Chris
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AlbertC79
>From: Chris Lawrence ch...@lordsutch.com
>Date: 4/5/2004 1:10 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <pan.2004.04.05....@lordsutch.com>
>
>On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:31:10 -0500, Clayton Bigsby wrote:
>> Parts of future I-130 and I-555 are still under construction, and they have
>> future I-numbers.
>>
>> The freeway is I-standard from I-40 to Newport, a distance of over 80
>miles.
>>
>> With AHTD's penchant for giving an Interstate number to every freeway it
>> can, it's just a little surprising to me that this long freeway doesn't
>have
>> the red-white-and blue shields.
>
>Newport isn't quite as 3di-worthy as Pine Bluff, Fayetteville, or
>Jonesboro. Maybe when the freeway makes it all the way to Hoxie/Walnut
>Ridge later this decade, AASHTO will be more disposed to hand out a 3di
>number.
>
Apparantly Jonesboro must have some kind of significance, because not only is
it the reason for Future I-555, but also a proposed I-730 as well. I posted a
thread a while back trying to find the reason why such a small town as
Jonesboro would need two 3dis.
AlbertC79
>Date: 4/5/2004 12:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>TV's I-540 wrote:
>> "Clayton Bigsby" <watuzis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:c4q4mp$2lbgds$1...@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...
>>
>>>
>>> It is odd, that the US 67 freeway is the only long freeway in
>>> Arkansas with no I-number. All the other US highway freeways that
>>> connect to the Interstate system (US 65, US 62/71, US 63) are now
>>> either Interstates or Future Interstates. I'm surprised that US 67
>>> isn't I-140 or 340 by now.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe because parts are still under construction??
>
>Parts of future I-130 and I-555 are still under construction, and they have
>future I-numbers.
>
>The freeway is I-standard from I-40 to Newport, a distance of over 80 miles.
>
>With AHTD's penchant for giving an Interstate number to every freeway it
>can, it's just a little surprising to me that this long freeway doesn't have
>the red-white-and blue shields.
>
>
It's not like they haven't tried. Here's an article from Kurumi's site:
-----------------------------------------------------
I-740 (cancelled) Arkansas
In the mid-1980s, a proposal circulated to designate US 67 from Little Rock to
Bald Knob as Interstate 740. This never came to fruition, but the newest
speculation is that it may become part of an extended Interstate 30 or 57.
Chris Lawrence
> Apparantly Jonesboro must have some kind of significance, because not only is
> it the reason for Future I-555, but also a proposed I-730 as well. I posted a
> thread a while back trying to find the reason why such a small town as
> Jonesboro would need two 3dis.
Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens, Ga.), and
is home of the state's second largest university, which is sufficient for
3di destination status.
Clayton Bigsby
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:53:09 +0000, AlbertC79 wrote:
>> Apparantly Jonesboro must have some kind of significance, because
>> not only is it the reason for Future I-555, but also a proposed
>> I-730 as well. I posted a thread a while back trying to find the
>> reason why such a small town as Jonesboro would need two 3dis.
>
> Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens,
> Ga.), and
> is home of the state's second largest university, which is sufficient
> for 3di destination status.
Third-largest, behind UofA and UALR.
AlbertC79
>Date: 4/5/2004 9:06 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>
>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:53:09 +0000, AlbertC79 wrote:
>> Apparantly Jonesboro must have some kind of significance, because not only
>is
>> it the reason for Future I-555, but also a proposed I-730 as well. I
>posted a
>> thread a while back trying to find the reason why such a small town as
>> Jonesboro would need two 3dis.
>
>Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens, Ga.), and
>is home of the state's second largest university, which is sufficient for
>3di destination status.
>
Fair enough for one 3di, but two??? Seems like a bit of overkill in my
opinion.
SFBayBoy
> is home of the state's second largest university, which is sufficient for
> 3di destination status.
>
>
102,000. Jonesboro has about 57,000. They both have large
universities.
Rod in Oakland
Rothman
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Hadley, MA has the MA-116 interstate-grade freeway for UMass...
Eric Opperman
Not necessarily. Jonesboro is close enough to Memphis to warrant a
connection, and a connection to LR and, with it, the rest of Arkansas,
is warranted too.
Chris Lawrence
Hmm, for some reason the number 43,000 was sticking in my head for Athens.
Mea culpa.
Clayton Bigsby
>>> Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens,
>>> Ga.), and is home of the state's second largest university, which
>>> is sufficient for 3di destination status.
>>
>> Fair enough for one 3di, but two??? Seems like a bit of overkill in
>> my opinion.
>
> Not necessarily. Jonesboro is close enough to Memphis to warrant a
> connection, and a connection to LR and, with it, the rest of Arkansas,
> is warranted too.
Jonesboro is at a crossroads. Texarkana and Alma both at crossroads with
2di's or Future 2di's, and both towns are smaller than Jonesboro.
I-540
> TV's Eric Opperman wrote:
> >>> Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens,
> >>> Ga.), and is home of the state's second largest university, which
> >>> is sufficient for 3di destination status.
> >>
> >> Fair enough for one 3di, but two??? Seems like a bit of overkill in
> >> my opinion.
> >
> > Not necessarily. Jonesboro is close enough to Memphis to warrant a
> > connection, and a connection to LR and, with it, the rest of Arkansas,
> > is warranted too.
>
> Jonesboro is at a crossroads. Texarkana and Alma both at crossroads with
> 2di's or Future 2di's, and both towns are smaller than Jonesboro.
>
Yeah, Alma is so impotant they're getting their own interchange ;)
AlbertC79
>Date: 4/6/2004 11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>
>"Clayton Bigsby" <watuzis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c4tkju$2mq1ad$1...@ID-138129.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> TV's Eric Opperman wrote:
>> >>> Jonesboro is a town of 50,000+ people (bigger than, say, Athens,
>> >>> Ga.), and is home of the state's second largest university, which
>> >>> is sufficient for 3di destination status.
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough for one 3di, but two??? Seems like a bit of overkill in
>> >> my opinion.
>> >
>> > Not necessarily. Jonesboro is close enough to Memphis to warrant a
>> > connection, and a connection to LR and, with it, the rest of Arkansas,
>> > is warranted too.
>>
>> Jonesboro is at a crossroads. Texarkana and Alma both at crossroads with
>> 2di's or Future 2di's, and both towns are smaller than Jonesboro.
>>
>
>Yeah, Alma is so impotant they're getting their own interchange ;)
This brings up another interesting question. What is the most remote location
(from populated areas) between 2 interstates? I would imagine to be among the
following:
I-10/I-20 in Texas
I-80/I-84 in Utah
I-79/I-80 in Pennsylvania
These are the only one I can think of off the top of my head
Steve
We've had smallest town at said junctions, and 10/20 won that one. You
need some definition of most remote: fewest people within a given
radius? Farthest from a city of a given size?
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Michael G. Koerner
I would add I-15/70 and I-76/80 (NE) to that list. Both are very
remote, too.
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I-80 and I-95.
Barry L. Camp
I-84/86 in Idaho
I-57/24 in Illinois
I-82/84 in Oregon
I-15/84 in Utah
There are a few others, but not many more, methinks...
Barry L. Camp
Stéphane Dumas
> remote, too.
>
remote but both these towns aren't that big.
and in a not-so-distant future I-95/future I-98 in Maine ;-)
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Guy Olsen
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > (from populated areas) between 2 interstates? I would imagine to be among the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > I-10/I-20 in Texas
> > > I-80/I-84 in Utah
> > > I-79/I-80 in Pennsylvania
> > >
> > > These are the only one I can think of off the top of my head
> >
> > We've had smallest town at said junctions, and 10/20 won that one. You
> > need some definition of most remote: fewest people within a given
> > radius? Farthest from a city of a given size?
>
> I would add I-15/70 and I-76/80 (NE) to that list. Both are very
> remote, too.
How about 4-way interchanges:
I-35/I-90, MN
I-80/I-39, IL
Michael G. Koerner
I-70/77 is kindof remote, too.
Eagles Fan On I-175
How do you figure? They meet in Teaneck, NJ, and continue mulitplexed
to the NJ/NY border on the GW Bridge. Now, I know it's been more than
a year since I've been there, but if my memory serves me correctly,
that area of NJ is some of the most populated in NJ, seeing as it's
near the largest city in America, NYC...
Rothman
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I'm debating whether to actually defend myself or admit that I was joking in
the first place.
Guy Olsen
> Guy Olsen wrote:
> >
> > "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote in message news:<4073501B...@dataex.com>...
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This brings up another interesting question. What is the most remote location
> > > > > (from populated areas) between 2 interstates? I would imagine to be among the
> > > > > following:
> > > > >
> > > > > I-10/I-20 in Texas
> > > > > I-80/I-84 in Utah
> > > > > I-79/I-80 in Pennsylvania
> > > > >
> > > > > These are the only one I can think of off the top of my head
> > > >
> > > > We've had smallest town at said junctions, and 10/20 won that one. You
> > > > need some definition of most remote: fewest people within a given
> > > > radius? Farthest from a city of a given size?
> > >
> > > I would add I-15/70 and I-76/80 (NE) to that list. Both are very
> > > remote, too.
> >
> > How about 4-way interchanges:
> > I-35/I-90, MN
> > I-80/I-39, IL
>
> I-70/77 is kindof remote, too.
Yeah, I realized that after sending my post.
On the other hand, while Cambridge, OH, is not a large town, the
"remoteness" is somewhat diminished by the interchange focused
development on I-70 west of the I-77 junction.
Guy Olsen, PE (NJ)