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mrpete  
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 More options Aug 4 2001, 4:50 pm
Newsgroups: misc.transport.road
From: "mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 16:47:27 -0400
Local: Sat, Aug 4 2001 4:47 pm
Subject: Roadgeeking at Cincinnati Public Library
Yesterday I went downtown and spent a few hours at the Public Library of
Cincinnati and Hamilton County.  Believe it or not, it is one of the 10
largest public libraries in the US.  I went "armed" with a list of books
that I had printed up at home off the the library's ancient computerized
card catalogue, which is availiable on telnet.

I only looked at a few of the books on my list, I look at the rest on a
later trip.

From storage, the library got out 1919 county maps of Ohio, bound together
in a book that was probably 2 feet by 18 inches.  I photocopied the Hamilton
and Clermont County pages on 11x17 paper.  There was a 1924 state map in the
front, nteable becasue it showed Ohio state routes but no US routes, so SR
numbering was different.  I was afraid I'd tear it (more than it already
was) if I tried to lift it up onto the copier.

I also copied ( on 4 11x17 sheets) a 1918 Rand McNally Auto Trails map
showing parts of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois.  I never realized there were
so many auto trails...

Sitting on a table was a 1990 Aerial Photo Atlas of Cincinnati that was at
least 3 feet by 2 feet.  Think terraserver in a book, with photos the size
of your computer table instead of computer screen.

There was also some cool Ohio River stuff, like a Illustrated Atlas of the
Upper Ohio Valley with color sketches of towns along the river in 1877.  It
was another book that was all but impossible to lift onto the photocopier...

I then went to another part of the library and looked at some local
government brochures about Cincinnati transportation.  They had "nice color
pictures", but they didn't really say anything...

Next to them, though, was the USDOT/FHWA book that has all of the gov't sign
specifications (MUCO, or something like that).  There was als a book that
indexes all of the signs ODOT produces.

I was able to check out "A Guide to the National Road" edited by Karl Raitz
and "Divided Highways - building the interstate highways, transforming
American life" by Tom Lewis.  I will bring them to the Ohio roadgeek meeting
if it happens...

Next time I wil have to look at "Expressways of Cincinnati", copyright 1951!

And I never even made it to the rare books room...

        -Pete Jenior


 
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Daniel Dey  
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 More options Aug 5 2001, 9:29 am
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From: "Daniel Dey" <dtd11...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 13:29:47 GMT
Local: Sun, Aug 5 2001 9:29 am
Subject: Re: Roadgeeking at Cincinnati Public Library

"mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message

news:tmoo12cf74udbe@corp.supernews.com...

> I then went to another part of the library and looked at some local
> government brochures about Cincinnati transportation.  They had "nice
color
> pictures", but they didn't really say anything...

> Next to them, though, was the USDOT/FHWA book that has all of the gov't
sign
> specifications (MUCO, or something like that).  There was als a book that
> indexes all of the signs ODOT produces.

Is this the version before 1971? I'd love to see that.

> Next time I wil have to look at "Expressways of Cincinnati", copyright
1951!

> And I never even made it to the rare books room...

>         -Pete Jenior

If you do make it there, let us know if they've got a copy of "The War
Against the Automobile," by B. Bruce Briggs. Okay?

Daniel Timothy Dey


 
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mrpete  
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 More options Aug 7 2001, 12:03 pm
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From: "mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:00:26 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 7 2001 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: Roadgeeking at Cincinnati Public Library

"Daniel Dey" <dtd11...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:fTbb7.1302$M3.186743@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...

No, it is from 1988.

> > Next time I wil have to look at "Expressways of Cincinnati", copyright
> 1951!

> > And I never even made it to the rare books room...

> >         -Pete Jenior

> If you do make it there, let us know if they've got a copy of "The War
> Against the Automobile," by B. Bruce Briggs. Okay

Yes, they have it.  I don't know how to post a link to telnet, but here is
the info on the book:
TITLE: The war against the automobile / B. Bruce-Briggs.
        AUTHOR: Bruce-Briggs, B.
     PUBLISHED: New York : Dutton, ¢1977,c1975!
   DESCRIPTION: 244 p. : illus. 22 cm.
       SUBJECT: Transportation, Automotive -- United States.
       SUBJECT: Automobiles -- Social aspects -- United States.

 Title: WAR AGINST THE AUTOMOBILE
      Author: BRUCE-BRIGGS, B.
   Published: New York : Dutton, ¢1977,c1975!

 Location:                   Status:       Call Number:
 MAIN Govt. & Business       Check Shelf   388.30973 B887
            -Pete Jenior


 
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Discussion subject changed to "FHWA SHS Book (Was: Roadgeeking at Cincinnati)" by Richard C. Moeur
Richard C. Moeur  
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 More options Aug 8 2001, 1:27 am
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From: "Richard C. Moeur" <rcmo...@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 05:27:46 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 8 2001 1:27 am
Subject: Re: FHWA SHS Book (Was: Roadgeeking at Cincinnati)

mrpete wrote:

> Next to them, though, was the USDOT/FHWA book that has all of the gov't sign
> specifications (MUCO, or something like that).

That might be FHWA's Standard Highway Signs book, which
contains details and dimensions for all standard US
highway signs.

FHWA is in the (long overdue) process of updating
this manual. Many states have held off on installing
new signs approved in the 2000 MUTCD (or even the
later revisions to the 1988 MUTCD), since there's
no "official" design established by FHWA for those
signs - and if FHWA finally adopts a different
design, especially with symbol signs, that you're
stuck with a bunch of non-conforming signs.

--
Richard C. Moeur, P.E.,  WC7RCM,  E.C.I.,  whatever...
Practicing Traffic Engineer (I'll get it right someday...)
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
"Life is just one W1-5 after another, until the W14-1"
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
the Arizona Department of Transportation. Really.
WWW: http://members.aol.com/rcmoeur/
E-Mail: rcmo...@aol.com, NOT rcmo...@earthlink.net. Tnx!


 
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