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Re: Anglo-Scottish WCML services franchising configuration
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Arthur Figgis
Jun 27, 2012, 5:22:40 PM6/27/12
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On 27/06/2012 20:56, Paul Corfield wrote:
> I used the Harwich - Hook route for the first time in many years last
> September. I travelled out on a Sunday evening and there was a
> replacement coach in use from Liv St. The first coach left full and
> there was almost a second load waiting for a second coach to turn up.
> OK that's weekend return traffic with mostly Dutch travellers but also
> a smattering of other tourists as I was sat with American chaps doing
> the back pack thing. The boat was decently loaded with a good mix of
> people and there lorry driver area was pretty full. The train from
> HvH Haven is now just a commuter EMU - no dedicated train anymore.
> However there was a decent load of people off the ferry mingling with
> the Dutch morning commuters.
>
> I returned on a Thursday night crossing so not a peak time at that
> time of year and it wasn't very busy with foot passengers. There was
> a significant volume of lorry trade though.
Last time I did it I asked the staff at check-in how many people use it.
They said it varies a lot, from not many to (IIRC) a couple of hundred.
I suspect looking at it as London - Amsterdam could be misleading, there
is more (somewhere in the Netherlands) - (somewhere in England) traffic
than just the city pair. There seemed to be more people on the trains at
the British end, with people using cars from the Dutch end.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
> I used the Harwich - Hook route for the first time in many years last
> September. I travelled out on a Sunday evening and there was a
> replacement coach in use from Liv St. The first coach left full and
> there was almost a second load waiting for a second coach to turn up.
> OK that's weekend return traffic with mostly Dutch travellers but also
> a smattering of other tourists as I was sat with American chaps doing
> the back pack thing. The boat was decently loaded with a good mix of
> people and there lorry driver area was pretty full. The train from
> HvH Haven is now just a commuter EMU - no dedicated train anymore.
> However there was a decent load of people off the ferry mingling with
> the Dutch morning commuters.
>
> I returned on a Thursday night crossing so not a peak time at that
> time of year and it wasn't very busy with foot passengers. There was
> a significant volume of lorry trade though.
Last time I did it I asked the staff at check-in how many people use it.
They said it varies a lot, from not many to (IIRC) a couple of hundred.
I suspect looking at it as London - Amsterdam could be misleading, there
is more (somewhere in the Netherlands) - (somewhere in England) traffic
than just the city pair. There seemed to be more people on the trains at
the British end, with people using cars from the Dutch end.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
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