Scientific Delegation Evaluatrd (sic) Meyer's "scam" Work
Kirby M. Wilson
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> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D7BAODqq
>
> Electron Extraction: Stanley Meyer
> Keepng the molecules in an "instable state."
And the "Magnetic Partical Generator."
>
> 304 Stainless Steel Electrodes.
> "Chemically inert in the process"
Electrical Polarization explained.
> http://youtube.com/watch?
> Continued
>
Experimenter Lawton's Meyer cell performing.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch
News flash 4 U "knews": Youtube is not peer reviewed science !
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
It is rare for an inventor to be prosecuted for an invention that
does not work, but Meyer's problem was that he had been selling
"dealerships", offering investors the "right to do business'' in Water
Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused to allow anyone else to measure
his device. Dennis Lee invested in him. Stanley Meyers gets locked up
for phony water powered cars
Meyer's claims about the Water Fuel Cell and the car that it powered
were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.[1] Similar
devices have been promoted by others; see Water-fueled car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell
Nevertheless, Meyer attracted believers, investors and, eventually,
legal trouble.
"I was a sucker for some of this stuff at the time," William E. Brooks
said from his home in Anchorage, Alaska.
Brooks invested more than $300,000 in Meyer's technology. He hoped to
find applications for his aviation business.
Today, he and his wife, Lorraine, laugh about the ordeal, made easier
because their money was returned in a 1994 settlement in Franklin
County Common Pleas Court.
Two years later, a Fayette County judge found "gross and egregious
fraud" in Meyer's contract negotiation with two businessmen. Their
money was returned.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:
>
> googlegroups.com knews4u2c...@yahoo.com
>
> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=D7BAODqq
>
> > Electron Extraction: Stanley Meyer
> > Keepng the molecules in an "instable state."
>
> And the "Magnetic Partical Generator."
>
> > 304 Stainless Steel Electrodes.
> > "Chemically inert in the process"
>
> Electrical Polarization explained.>http://youtube.com/watch?
> > Continued
>
> Experimenter Lawton's Meyer cell performing.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch
>
> News flash 4 U "knews": Youtube is not peer reviewed science !
>
> http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
> It is rare for an inventor to be prosecuted for an invention that
> does not work, but Meyer's problem was that he had been selling
> "dealerships", offering investors the "right to do business'' in Water
> Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused to allow anyone else to measure
> his device. Dennis Lee invested in him. Stanley Meyers gets locked up
> for phony water powered cars
> Meyer's claims about the Water Fuel Cell and the car that it powered
> were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.[1] Similar
> Nevertheless, Meyer attracted believers, investors and, eventually,
> legal trouble.
>
> "I was a sucker for some of this stuff at the time," William E. Brooks
> said from his home in Anchorage, Alaska.
> Brooks invested more than $300,000 in Meyer's technology. He hoped to
> find applications for his aviation business.
> Today, he and his wife, Lorraine, laugh about the ordeal, made easier
> because their money was returned in a 1994 settlement in Franklin
> County Common Pleas Court.
> Two years later, a Fayette County judge found "gross and egregious
> fraud" in Meyer's contract negotiation with two businessmen. Their
> money was returned.
LIAR.
Meyer was not in any court action with these people.
Meyer was only forced to return about $25,000 to one "investor."
Meyer's device was contaminated, the judge ingnored expert testimony,
and Meyer's own testimony and proof of opration from the PTO
Examiners.
The judge was related to the petitioner.
Meyer was "fined" $1, ONE, GOT THAT 1 lousy dollar for his "gross and
egregious fraud."
He was NEVER issued any Cease and Desist order to stop funding his
operation by selling his Dealerships.
Other people who wanted to see Meyer fail convinced the ONE old man
"investor" to sue Meyer were Rudy Gunderson and others who had
"competing" technology and wanted his patents..
The person who sued Meyer had been waiting since about 1980 and was
tired of all the delays in developement and marketing of the final
system.
Meyer died from an "anuerism" that occured while he was having dinner
with the man who had agreed to fund $50 million for his production
facility the land for which Meyer already had under contract.
Funny, how "coincidental."
Meyer's body was creamated after the Coroner supposedly did an
autopsy.
How would anyone ever know that any of what they say is true since
Meyer's work would have made it so we didn't need to spend BILLIONS ON
THE ILLEGAL INVASION OF IRAQ that is lining he pockets of the likes of
the Carlyle Group of which the Bin Ladens are BUSINESS PARTNERS with
G. Bush Sr. and most of the rest of the CRIMINAL GANG RUNNING THIS
COUNTRY.
Ask yourself, Why would Meyer think he "pull the wool over all the
scientific eyes" and carry on his suppose fraud.?
To what end?
Where would he hide if he were exposed?
When he was supposely "exposed" why did he keep plodding along
improving his system and selling more '"investments?"
If he was going to steal everyone's money, why was there $250,000 in
his bank account for which no others made a claim left for his
grieving wife?
Why did he spend years traveling to other countries speaking to
governments and business about his work while demonstrating his cell
in front of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE if he was "sure to get caught?
Do you think every one of these people was willing to waste their time
on some "scam artist?" These people included Admiral Anthony Griffin
from the Royal Institute of Navel Architects.
There were HUNDREDS of opportunities for someone to see his "secret
tubes or wires" or whatever other purported tricks he is supposed to
have played in his demonstration. No tricks. It IS NOT ELECTROLYSIS.
"Milliamps of current consumed."
Sorry, there were no tricks as MANY EXPERTS saw his cell FIRSTHAND.
Fact is the dark forces that control this planet let him develope as
much of his work as they needed for themselves and then they killed
him. They have had the luxury of the "scientists" and morons like the
denizens of this "News group" do the rest of the dirty work
"discrediting" him.
You think anyone of the liars here ever even met Meyer or were within
100 miles of his cell?.....No.
knews4...@yahoo.com
>
> googlegroups.com knews4u2c...@yahoo.com
>
> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=D7BAODqq
>
> > Electron Extraction: Stanley Meyer
> > Keepng the molecules in an "instable state."
>
> And the "Magnetic Partical Generator."
>
> > 304 Stainless Steel Electrodes.
> > "Chemically inert in the process"
>
> Electrical Polarization explained.>http://youtube.com/watch?
> > Continued
>
> Experimenter Lawton's Meyer cell performing.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch
>
> News flash 4 U "knews": Youtube is not peer reviewed science !
>
> http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
> It is rare for an inventor to be prosecuted for an invention that
> does not work, but Meyer's problem was that he had been selling
> "dealerships", offering investors the "right to do business'' in Water
> Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused to allow anyone else to measure
> his device. Dennis Lee invested in him. Stanley Meyers gets locked up
> for phony water powered cars
> Meyer's claims about the Water Fuel Cell and the car that it powered
> were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.[1] Similar
> Nevertheless, Meyer attracted believers, investors and, eventually,
> legal trouble.
>
> "I was a sucker for some of this stuff at the time," William E. Brooks
> said from his home in Anchorage, Alaska.
> Brooks invested more than $300,000 in Meyer's technology. He hoped to
> find applications for his aviation business.
> Today, he and his wife, Lorraine, laugh about the ordeal, made easier
> because their money was returned in a 1994 settlement in Franklin
> County Common Pleas Court.
> Two years later, a Fayette County judge found "gross and egregious
> fraud" in Meyer's contract negotiation with two businessmen. Their
> money was returned.
Nice to see the DARK FORCES have THEIR MAN here to give you all the
truth.
Here is how "news" works folks.
http://throwawayyourtelescreen.wordpress.com/2007/07/03/john-pilger-the-battle-for-history/
Kirby M. Wilson
> On Aug 4, 4:22 am, "Kirby M. Wilson" <kir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > knews4...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:
> Meyer's work would have made it so we didn't need to spend BILLIONS ON
THE ILLEGAL INVASION OF IRAQ that is lining he pockets of the likes
of
the Carlyle Group of which the Bin Ladens are BUSINESS PARTNERS
with
G. Bush Sr. and most of the rest of the CRIMINAL GANG RUNNING THIS
> COUNTRY.
> Ask yourself, Why would Meyer think he "pull the wool over all the
> scientific eyes" and carry on his suppose fraud.?
> To what end?
> Where would he hide if he were exposed?
> When he was supposely "exposed" why did he keep plodding along
> improving his system and selling more '"investments?"
have played in his demonstration. No tricks. It IS NOT ELECTROLYSIS.
> "Milliamps of current consumed."
> Sorry, there were no tricks as MANY EXPERTS saw his cell FIRSTHAND.
Fact is the dark forces that control this planet let him develope
as
much of his work as they needed for themselves and then they killed
him. They have had the luxury of the "scientists" and morons like
the
> denizens of this "News group" do the rest of the dirty work
> "discrediting" him.
> You think anyone of the liars here ever even met Meyer or were within
> 100 miles of his cell?.....No.
Uhh.... I believe you forgot to put the tin foil hat on "knews" !
Remember, the evil dark forces can be blocked by a nano flux capacitor
(coupled with a electric pulse generator and gravitational energy
converter of course)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Still_more_bad_jokes_and_other_deleted_nonsense/History_of_perpetual_motion
In spite of no evidence of success hundreds of people for centuries
have attempted to solve the holy grail of energy production -
Perpetual Motion Machines. Many people simply think it must be
possible and if they only try hard enough, they will find a solution.
Some of this is from Joseph Bulgatz's book: 'Ponzi schemes invaders
from mars and other popular delusions' Still to this day I get weekly
emails from people who feel they are about to get one working.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> On Aug 4, 2:27 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 4:22 am, "Kirby M. Wilson" <kir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Great evidence....wikipropagandia....sheeeeesh.
> In spite of no evidence of success hundreds of people for centuries
> have attempted to solve the holy grail of energy production -
> Perpetual Motion Machines. Many people simply think it must be
> possible and if they only try hard enough, they will find a solution.
> Some of this is from Joseph Bulgatz's book: 'Ponzi schemes invaders
> from mars and other popular delusions' Still to this day I get weekly
> emails from people who feel they are about to get one working.
There is no such thing as perpetual motion unless of course you look
at the moon, stars, sun, air, wind, aether, electron, atoms, and
EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND YOU that has been moving since the dawn of time
and will still BE MOVING long after we burn this planet to a
cinder....
Fred Kasner
Interestingly enough that you keep claiming that there was a conspiracy
to prevent Meyer from developing his system. And a conspiracy to stop
him from solving the problems that kept it from working when he
demonstrated it in front of those capable of properly criticizing its
principles and measuring its results. Yet when you, without evidence,
claim his system worked, you without evidence insist that he was stifled
by the actions of large companies that were involved in fuel
exploration, refining and sales. Why must we accept your word without
proof while you refuse to accept our word when direct proof was not
available directly from Meyer's obfuscating actions and denial of access
to his machinery? You have a double standard in your arguments. Whereas
our standard is one of reliance on the fundamentals of science which
have been tested many many times and found to be invariant.
You demonstrate not only stupidity but an inability to argue rationally.
FK
Fred Kasner
... snip ...
>
> There is no such thing as perpetual motion unless of course you look
> at the moon, stars, sun, air, wind, aether, electron, atoms, and
> EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND YOU that has been moving since the dawn of time
> and will still BE MOVING long after we burn this planet to a
> cinder....
>
>
Interesting, you use the arguments of science about the nature of the
structure of matter to make the above claim. But you suspend belief in
those same principles of science when it comes to supporting the clear
nonsense of Meyer's work. You can't even tell the difference between an
electron volt and a volt.
FK
Gunner Asch
I went to Our Lady of Perpetual Motion Elementary School.
Does that count?
lol
Gunner
Fred Kasner
Hey, Dummy. You can't "consume" current. The electrons do not disappear
as if eaten by the electric circuit. A current is a flow of electrons
(in a metal but also of other charged bodies in a gas of liquid) and the
rate of such flow is what we call a current. You are so stupid it is
getting painful attempting to educate you. Actually I really am doing
this only for the other people who read your stuff so they won't be
misinformed.
A brick makes you look stupid.
FK
Fred Kasner
... snip nonsense ...
> There is no such thing as perpetual motion unless of course you look
> at the moon, stars, sun, air, wind, aether, electron, atoms, and
> EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND YOU that has been moving since the dawn of time
> and will still BE MOVING long after we burn this planet to a
> cinder....
>
>
Another example of your total ignorance about matters scientific. The
objects moving around you have NOT been doing this since the "dawn of
time" (the big bang perhaps). The universe was not young when this
galaxy was born and the star that constitutes our sun coalesced and the
planets around it formed. And we know about the fate of earlier objects
as they can explode and scatter gases throughout their galaxies and
through local groups of galaxies. And even for those stars small enough
to just cool to dwarfs that result will not last forever as they will
cool to the almost absolute zero of the last remains of the radiation
from the big bang. The universe will still exist and new matter being
formed from condensing gases. We know almost nothing about the dark
matter and the dark energy (I suppose you think you know about such
things) but save for the mystery of the dark stuff the universe would
clearly have a possible end when the increase in entropy maximizes in
the universe and no new matter is being formed. Even the universe can't
be said to be a perpetual motion machine.
FK
Fred Kasner
No but it "helps" a lot to see this.
FK