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knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:15:23 AM11/20/09
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DanB

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:37:58 AM11/20/09
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Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy protected!
666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!

Usenet is all about belief.....


knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:16:45 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 19, 9:37 pm, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Ent...

>
> > So what else is new?
>
> Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy protected!

So, anyone can read it at the link and verify it for themselves.
It seems it always takes a while for the truth to actually come out in
these "incidents."
Then everything is a "conspiracy" if it doesn't fit the "official"
story?

> 666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!
>
> Usenet is all about belief.....

So you don't think there is a literal "gag order" in place which has
kept the other 50 or so eyewitnesses from going on every talk show on
earth to "tell their story?"

P. Maffia

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:27:12 AM11/20/09
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Yes, what else is new? Knews4u comes up with another nutty conspiracy to
blather about. Maybe while he regales us with crazier and crazier idiocies
about this story, he will return to entertaining us, giving us good belly
laughs at his expense after so long a dry period he has produced with his so
often repeated 9/11 gibberish.


<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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AllYou!

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:16:13 AM11/20/09
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In news:XWpNm.45687$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad,
DanB <a...@some.net> mused:

> knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2009/11/16_Entry_1.html
>>
>> So what else is new?
>
> Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy
> protected! 666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!

WOW! You just can't let the crap - THAT YOU INITITATED, AND
PERPETUATED, AND ESCALATED - go, can you. Of what are you so damned
afraid?


--
"If you ever reach total enlightenment while you're drinking a beer,
I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose."


AllYou!

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:41:51 AM11/20/09
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In
news:7acec943-5bd1-46dd...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

There's nothing new at all about kooks publishing their nonsense in
a way that looks mainstream, even though it's still clearly being
published by kooks. In this case, the story is filled with
unverified and unsupported clams, and, as usual, takes various
anecdotal statements which *might* have been made by the usual
unnamed 'witnesses' in the chaos and confusing immediately after a
panicked event, and tried to weave a conspiracy out of it.

These conspiracy kooks believe, when it's convenient, that all
comments made must be absolutely consistent with each other, and
make no allowance that maybe some people believe they heard three
shots while others remember it as four shots, and that maybe what
sounds like automatic fire to one person sounds like semi-automatic
fire from another, not to mention that echoes and all sorts of
perfectly normal and natural conditions could be the reason for the
difference, not to mention that the terms 'sounds like', or 'looks
like' doesn't means that anyone is saying that it is.

How many people have ever said that a tornado 'sounded like' a train
going through the middle of their house, or that the aftermath
'looked like' a nuclear bomb went off? does that really mean that
they are saying that a train went through the middle of their home,
or that the devastation wasn't really from a tornado, but that (the
gubament) set off a nuclear bomb instead?

And that doesn't even begin to address the fact that probable none
of these witnesses have ever seen what the effects of a nuclear bomb
looks like at all!

Yes, chewy, it's all the fault of the gubament, and the Jews.
Between them, they set off a volcano under the WTC in NY with a
mini-nuclear device which then set off tons and tons of newly
formulated thermite which only these spooks possess, which then
caused the towers to fall at free fall speed. And they did all of
this precisely as two jet liners flown by other Jews crashed into
the WTC at precisely the location of where the uppermost thermite
was installed.

Of course, they were also cleaver enough to do all of this
specifically to make the buildings fall in a way in which they could
not have fallen if the official report is to be believed.

So there. You've succeeded in convincing all of us, with no hard
evidence at all, and with only speculation that the official report
might be wrong, that hundreds, if not thousands of people, not one
of which has ever, ever come forward to admit anything, that all of
your various versions of what happened on 911, and at Fort Hood, and
all sorts of other places, was all the fault of Bush, the Jews,
Obama, but not, in any way, those of our avowed enemies.

But tell me this...... Were the moon landings real or fake?


Rob Grass

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:59:08 AM11/20/09
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"P. Maffia" <pma...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> Yes, what else is new? Knews4u comes up with another nutty conspiracy
> to blather about. Maybe while he regales us with crazier and crazier
> idiocies about this story, he will return to entertaining us, giving
> us good belly laughs at his expense after so long a dry period he has
> produced with his so often repeated 9/11 gibberish.


Chewey's buddy, Don Nicoloff, from a P.O. box called the Idaho Observer,
is a real piece of work. Would you believe...an extraterrestrial
contact (with a southern accent) from the Planet Balqui!!! Too funny!!
Ya gatta read it to believe it....

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/unitedgalacticfederationcontact07jun09.shtml

DanB

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:39:52 PM11/20/09
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AllYou! wrote:
> In news:XWpNm.45687$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad,
> DanB <a...@some.net> mused:
>> knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2009/11/16_Entry_1.html
>>>
>>> So what else is new?
>> Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy
>> protected! 666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!
>
> WOW! You just can't let the crap - THAT YOU INITITATED, AND
> PERPETUATED, AND ESCALATED - go, can you.

Was that a question? The escalation was only possible because your
buttons were so easy to push.

> Of what are you so damned
> afraid?

Still the pill. Creating truths with leading questions. Where as chewy
is probably sincere about his beliefs, you create truths to suit your
agenda.

That puts you out further on the wacko-meter.

Here I'll let you have the last word you are always so desperate for and
take my entertainment through your discourse with Curly.

AllYou!

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:54:29 PM11/20/09
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In news:IvANm.34472$6c2....@newsfe03.iad,
DanB <a...@some.net> mused:

> AllYou! wrote:
>> In news:XWpNm.45687$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad,
>> DanB <a...@some.net> mused:
>>> knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2009/11/16_Entry_1.html
>>>>
>>>> So what else is new?
>>> Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy
>>> protected! 666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!
>>
>> WOW! You just can't let the crap - THAT YOU INITITATED, AND
>> PERPETUATED, AND ESCALATED - go, can you.
>
> Was that a question?

Still confused, I see.

> The escalation was only possible because
> your buttons were so easy to push.

So you behave badly because it's easy?

>> Of what are you so damned
>> afraid?
>
> Still the pill. Creating truths with leading questions. Where as
> chewy is probably sincere about his beliefs, you create truths
> to suit your agenda.

What agenda do you fantasize that might be?

> That puts you out further on the wacko-meter.
>
> Here I'll let you have the last word you are always so desperate
> for and take my entertainment through your discourse with Curly.

Capitualtion noted.


gwe

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:54:31 PM11/20/09
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On Nov 20, 5:59 pm, "Rob Grass" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> "P. Maffia" <pmaf...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> > Yes, what else is new? Knews4u comes up with another nutty conspiracy
> > to blather about. Maybe while he regales us with crazier and crazier
> > idiocies about this story, he will return to entertaining us, giving
> > us good belly laughs at his expense after so long a dry period he has
> > produced with his so often repeated 9/11 gibberish.
>
> Chewey's buddy, Don Nicoloff, from a P.O. box called the Idaho Observer,
> is a real piece of work.  Would you believe...an extraterrestrial
> contact (with a southern accent) from the Planet Balqui!!!  Too funny!!
> Ya gatta read it to believe it....
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/unitedgalacticfederationcontact07jun09...> <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:7acec943-5bd1-46dd...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >>http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Ent...

>
> >> So what else is new?

http://tia-mysoa.blogspot.com/2009/07/extraterrestrial-contact.html

DanB

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:14:58 PM11/20/09
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Curly Surmudgeon

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Nov 20, 2009, 1:40:53 PM11/20/09
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Don't hold your breath, the troll is back in my Bozo Filter.

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:45:08 PM11/20/09
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Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:27:52 PM11/20/09
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"AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote in message
news:U66dnUD3na9EJZvW...@posted.choiceonecommunications...

> Yes, chewy, it's all the fault of the gubament, and the Jews. Between
> them, they set off a volcano under the WTC in NY with a mini-nuclear
> device which then set off tons and tons of newly formulated thermite which
> only these spooks possess, which then caused the towers to fall at free
> fall speed. And they did all of this precisely as two jet liners flown by
> other Jews crashed into the WTC at precisely the location of where the
> uppermost thermite was installed.

Wouldn't it be wild if our Democracy was so smooth-running that such a
complex plot could actually be carried out?

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:23:40 PM11/20/09
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Is there a Democracy in MK Ultra?
http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/

Do you think all the BILLIONS they have spent over 50 years on "mind
control" has produced nothing and has remained untested in "real
world" operations?

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 12:18:50 AM11/21/09
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Kirby M. Wilson

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:05:07 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 12:18 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Nov 19, 9:15 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >http://web
>
> > So what else is new?
>
> Well, they wanted a "clash of civilizations.

clash of wacky conspiracy theories !
(whatever happened to the good old JFK conspiracies ?)


knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:57:35 AM11/21/09
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knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 12:04:40 PM11/21/09
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AllYou!

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:45:56 PM11/21/09
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In news:he6nrl$n8c$6...@news.eternal-september.org,
Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> mused:

> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:39:52 -0700, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
>
>> AllYou! wrote:
>>> In news:XWpNm.45687$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad, DanB
>>> <a...@some.net> mused:
>>>> knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/
> Entries/2009/11/16_Entry_1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> So what else is new?
>>>> Nothing. You cite a document with no citations that is copy
>>>> protected! 666 Ramada Rd. You are as big an idiot as 'AllYou!
>>>
>>> WOW! You just can't let the crap - THAT YOU INITITATED, AND
>>> PERPETUATED, AND ESCALATED - go, can you.
>>
>> Was that a question? The escalation was only possible because
>> your buttons were so easy to push.
>>
>>> Of what are you so damned
>>> afraid?
>>
>> Still the pill. Creating truths with leading questions. Where
>> as chewy is probably sincere about his beliefs, you create
>> truths to suit your agenda.
>>
>> That puts you out further on the wacko-meter.
>>
>> Here I'll let you have the last word you are always so
>> desperate for and take my entertainment through your discourse
>> with Curly.
>
> Don't hold your breath, the troll is back in my Bozo Filter.

You've spent many of the last few weeks avoiding addressing very
simple questions about your position on the basis, flase as it is,
that I've been too insulting to you, and yet, as your own posts
provs, it's you who has been insulting.

But not to worry. You may not see how I expose the folly of your
claims and arguments, but they will be exposed nonetheless.


AllYou!

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:48:11 PM11/21/09
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In
news:ec3b7c7f-e698-4db3...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

No, not imaginary enemies. Real ones.

>
>> But tell me this...... Were the moon landings real or fake?
>
> We'll let the public decide.

Polls aren't the arbiter of facts. Evidence is.

DanB

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:08:22 PM11/21/09
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>> You mean these enemies?


>> http://www.rense.com/general88/zzz.htm
>
> No, not imaginary enemies. Real ones.

Which ones would those be?

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knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:56:03 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>
> That's a pretty tasteless pun.

The question remains.
How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
rounds without being rushed?
Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"
Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything they could
get their hands on at the shooter?


AllYou!

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:32:44 AM11/22/09
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In
news:9b5eccde-0ea7-4c6f...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

> On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>>
>> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
>
> The question remains.
> How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as
> 100 rounds without being rushed?

He scared lots of people by getting off as many as 100 rounds.

> Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"

Why would someone rush a guy with a drill?

> Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything they
> could get their hands on at the shooter?

Because they were scared.


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AZ Nomad

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:05:49 PM11/22/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:03 -0800 (PST), knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 21, 7:19?pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>>
>> That's a pretty tasteless pun.

>The question remains.
>How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
>rounds without being rushed?

With a machine gun, that's about 5 seconds. If you're sane, you'll be
taking cover during those 5 seconds.

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:08:01 PM11/22/09
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> Tell you what.  Let's have a fight.  You bring some books, lamps,
> vases and other nice stuff to throw.  I'll bring my gun.  Heck.  I'll
> even let you have first throw.   Deal?

The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
every man for himself?
Granted, these were not seasoned soldiers but aren't they "trained" to
do something besdides allow a turkey shoot?
Again, why haven't we been inundated with "eyewitness" stories by
those who werer there?
When ever any other event happens like this we get 24/7 talk show
coverage by every person that was within 500 feet of the "incident."
It's too quiet out there.

DanB

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:27:10 PM11/22/09
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knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Nov 21, 10:23 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>>>> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
>>> The question remains.
>>> How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
>>> rounds without being rushed?
>>> Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"
>>> Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything they could
>>> get their hands on at the shooter?
>> Tell you what. Let's have a fight. You bring some books, lamps,
>> vases and other nice stuff to throw. I'll bring my gun. Heck. I'll
>> even let you have first throw. Deal?
>
> The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
> to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
> every man for himself?

Quit projecting, quit making stuff up. "Soldiers don�t carry weapons
with them unless they�re doing training exercises.." The first rule of
combat is to survive or you are worth shit.

Now if you think stepping in front of someone, who is armed and postal,
while you are unarmed is smart, more power to you...

How is it you have lived this long?

P. Maffia

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:26:12 PM11/22/09
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Actually, the point is, YOU MORON, "... are the "fighting men and women" in
our military taught to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide,
and play
every man for himself?" they are taught to do that in a combat situation
where they are EXPECTING that someone will be shooting at them.

In a normal situation where you are not in combat and don't expect to be
shot at, they will respond like any other human being until they understand
what is happening and respond as they were trained to do.

<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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AllYou!

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:35:42 PM11/22/09
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In
news:0c9fee43-d4e6-4da6...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

> On Nov 21, 10:23 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>>
>>>> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
>>
>>> The question remains.
>>> How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many
>>> as 100 rounds without being rushed?
>>> Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"
>>> Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything
>>> they could get their hands on at the shooter?
>>
>> Tell you what. Let's have a fight. You bring some books, lamps,
>> vases and other nice stuff to throw. I'll bring my gun. Heck.
>> I'll even let you have first throw. Deal?
>
> The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military
> taught to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide,
> and play every man for himself?

They're not taught to be supermen.

> Granted, these were not seasoned soldiers but aren't they
> "trained" to do something besdides allow a turkey shoot?

No.

> Again, why haven't we been inundated with "eyewitness" stories by
> those who werer there?

We have.

> When ever any other event happens like this we get 24/7 talk show
> coverage by every person that was within 500 feet of the
> "incident." It's too quiet out there.

Says who?


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knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:59:14 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:27 am, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Nov 21, 10:23 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >>>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
> >>>> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
> >>> The question remains.
> >>> How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
> >>> rounds without being rushed?
> >>> Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"
> >>> Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything they could
> >>> get their hands on at the shooter?
> >> Tell you what.  Let's have a fight.  You bring some books, lamps,
> >> vases and other nice stuff to throw.  I'll bring my gun.  Heck.  I'll
> >> even let you have first throw.   Deal?
>
> > The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
> > to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
> > every man for himself?
>
> Quit projecting, quit making stuff up.

What am I making up?

>"Soldiers don’t carry weapons
> with them unless they’re doing training exercises.."

Aren't the soldiers supposed to be the weapon?

>The first rule of
> combat is to survive or you are worth shit.
>

So it is every man for himself.

> Now if you think stepping in front of someone, who is armed and postal,
> while you are  unarmed is smart, more power to you...
>

"An army of one."

> How is it you have lived this long?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

By staying out of the military.

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:01:33 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:05 am, AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:56:03 -0800 (PST), knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 21, 7:19?pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>
> >> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
> >The question remains.
> >How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
> >rounds without being rushed?
>
> With a machine gun, that's about 5 seconds.  If you're sane, you'll be
> taking cover during those 5 seconds.

He didn't have a machine gun.

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:03:14 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 1:02 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >On Nov 21, 10:23 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >On Nov 21, 7:19 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> >> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> > Fort Hood Shooting Full of Holes
>
> >> >> That's a pretty tasteless pun.
>
> >> >The question remains.
> >> >How did one guy get off what has been reported to be as many as 100
> >> >rounds without being rushed?
> >> >Even if some in the room thought "it was a drill?"
> >> >Why didn't 40 people start throwing anything and everything they could
> >> >get their hands on at the shooter?
>
> >> Tell you what.  Let's have a fight.  You bring some books, lamps,
> >> vases and other nice stuff to throw.  I'll bring my gun.  Heck.  I'll
> >> even let you have first throw.   Deal?
>
> >The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
> >to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
> >every man for himself?
>
> They were mostly unarmed.  I'll make you my offer again.  You throw
> stuff you find laying around and I'll have a gun.  Want to bet on the
> outcome?

>
> >Granted, these were not seasoned soldiers but aren't they "trained" to
> >do something besdides allow a turkey shoot?
> >Again, why haven't we been inundated with "eyewitness" stories by
> >those who werer there?
>
> Because they were mostly military and they have been ordered to hold
> it for the investigation.  I'm sure the offficer that ended it has
> been told to hold it for the trial.  Standard procedure both.

>
> >When ever any other event happens like this we get 24/7 talk show
> >coverage by every person that was within 500 feet of the "incident."
> >It's too quiet out there.
>
> We will get that soon enough.  There are two competing investigations.
> Liberman wants to prove the military is too soft, and the general
> heading the army investigation wants to prove they did everything just
> right.  Dirty laundry will be aired, I'm quite certain.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, a nice "sanitized" vesion that suits the needs of the PTB will
surely be forthcoming.

DanB

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knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Nov 22, 9:27 am, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

>>> The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
>>> to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
>>> every man for himself?

>> Quit projecting, quit making stuff up.
>
> What am I making up?

Read what you wrote right above.

>> "Soldiers don�t carry weapons
>> with them unless they�re doing training exercises.."


>
> Aren't the soldiers supposed to be the weapon?

Huh?

>> The first rule of
>> combat is to survive or you are worth shit.
>>
> So it is every man for himself.

I never said that, you did.

>> Now if you think stepping in front of someone, who is armed and postal,
>> while you are unarmed is smart, more power to you...
>>
> "An army of one."

Huh?

>> How is it you have lived this long?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> By staying out of the military.

Probably a good thing for the military...

Listen, take this up with someone else. It is starting to look like an
allYou! game.....

knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:30:19 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 3:33 pm, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Nov 22, 9:27 am, DanB <a...@some.net> wrote:
> >> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> The point is, are the "fighting men and women" in our military taught
> >>> to fight, stop a shooter, neutralize them, or run, hide, and play
> >>> every man for himself?
> >> Quit projecting, quit making stuff up.
>
> > What am I making up?
>
> Read what you wrote right above.
>
> >> "Soldiers don’t carry weapons
> >> with them unless they’re doing training exercises.."

>
> > Aren't the soldiers supposed to be the weapon?
>
> Huh?
>
> >> The first rule of
> >> combat is to survive or you are worth shit.
>
> > So it is every man for himself.
>
> I never said that, you did.
>
> >> Now if you think stepping in front of someone, who is armed and postal,
> >> while you are  unarmed is smart, more power to you...
>
> > "An army of one."
>
> Huh?
>
> >> How is it you have lived this long?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > By staying out of the military.
>
> Probably a good thing for the military...
>
> Listen, take this up with someone else. It is starting to look like an
> allYou! game.....

All I'm saying is if 5 or 10 guys had been on their game and rushed
this "loon," instead of hiding under tables waiting to get shot, as
soon as the incident began there likely would have been many less
killed and wounded.
Maybe they need a new training drill for "lone nut" gunman?
Treat him just like the quarterback in a football game and everybody
rush him.
What if the room had also been filled with "women and children?"
Every man for himself still?

AllYou!

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:46:21 AM11/23/09
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In
news:6907ea3e-1ab1-4d55...@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

You've watched too many movies. How the hell do all of these
individuals coordinate a single 'rush' so that only half of them get
killed? It's just not gonna happen, especially in that time frame.

> Maybe they need a new training drill for "lone nut" gunman?
> Treat him just like the quarterback in a football game and
> everybody rush him.

But everybody on the defense practices that very circumstance under
very controlled conditions, and no one kills the guys that don't get
through. There's no possible way that people who have never been on
the same team can call the same play in a highly coordinated way
with players who come and go depending upon circumstances, and in
circumstances which vary wildly from case to case.

> What if the room had also been filled with "women and children?"
> Every man for himself still?

Probably.


knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:37:02 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:46 am, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:
> Innews:6907ea3e-1ab1-4d55...@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:
> Probably.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Guess what we need is " a few good men?"

AllYou!

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:33:00 PM11/23/09
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In
news:5be848de-d5f4-46d4...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

We've got them. They're not supermen, but just very good men.


Strabo

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:01:37 PM11/23/09
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One man armed with two .22s routes 300 grown, trained GIs in the middle
of an Army post.

It is amazing the lengths some Americans will go to to defend this
spectacular failure.

The future of America does not look good.

Gunner Asch

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:06:31 AM11/24/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:01:37 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
wrote:


Well...the m16 is also a .22....and you wouldnt have a problem running
from one of those, would you?

Gunner

Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:47:15 PM11/23/09
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[Removed inappropriate cross-posting to: sci.energy.hydrogen]


"AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote in message
news:nfednV7JLIXwfpfW...@posted.choiceonecommunications...

> We've got them. They're not supermen, but just very good men.

No - they're not even just good men.

This month, it was brought to the President's attention that the men
convicted of murder in the Haditha massacre were still in the military.
One is still serving a prison sentence, but the other six served short jail
terms and then were allowed to return to work.
Since then, several have been given honorable discharges and one was even
awarded the Good Conduct Medal.
When the President was told about this, he had the remaining convicts
discharged from the military.


knews4...@yahoo.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:20:49 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 20, 4:23 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Nov 20, 3:27 pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>
> > "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:U66dnUD3na9EJZvW...@posted.choiceonecommunications...

>
> > > Yes, chewy, it's all the fault of the gubament, and the Jews. Between
> > > them, they set off a volcano under the WTC in NY with a mini-nuclear
> > > device which then set off tons and tons of newly formulated thermite which
> > > only these spooks possess, which then caused the towers to fall at free
> > > fall speed.  And they did all of this precisely as two jet liners flown by
> > > other Jews crashed into the WTC at precisely the location of where the
> > > uppermost thermite was installed.
>
> > Wouldn't it be wild if our Democracy was so smooth-running that such a
> > complex plot could actually be carried out?
>
> Is there a Democracy in MK Ultra?http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htmhttp://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/
>
> Do you think all the BILLIONS they have spent over 50 years on "mind
> control" has produced nothing and has remained untested in "real
> world" operations?

Then we have this little tem.
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/maj-nidal-hasan-as-a-manchurian-candidate-doesn%e2%80%99t-sound-as-crazy-today-as-it-might-have-yesterday/

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