Thanksgiving...
Shall not be infringed
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on misc.surv.
If you are one of the practicing atheists on this group you shouldn't
be sitting down to a turkey dinner today or doing anything
thanksgiving related. Don't be a hypocrite.
deepdudu
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
Shall not be infringed
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>
> >...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
Frank
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
> <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>
every year. They taught the pilgrims how to smoke tobacco ;)
Frank
> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>>
>> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>
>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>
> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>
Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
Curly Surmudgeon
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Gunner Asch
century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
"After eleven years, about forty of them agreed to make a perilous
journey to the New World, where they would certainly face hardships, but
could live and worship God according to the dictates of their own
consciences. On August 1, 1620, the Mayflower set sail. It carried a
total of 102 passengers, including forty Pilgrims led by William
Bradford. On the journey, Bradford set up an agreement, a contract, that
established just and equal laws for all members of the new community,
irrespective of their religious beliefs. Where did the revolutionary
ideas expressed in the Mayflower Compact come from? From the Bible. The
Pilgrims were a people completely steeped in the lessons of the Old and
New Testaments. They looked to the ancient Israelites for their example.
"And, because of the biblical precedents set forth in Scripture, they
never doubted that their experiment would work. But this was no pleasure
cruise, friends. The journey to the New World was a long and arduous
one. And when the Pilgrims landed in New England in November, they
found, according to Bradford's detailed journal, a cold, barren,
desolate wilderness. There were no friends to greet them, he wrote.
There were no houses to shelter them. There were no inns where they
could refresh themselves. And the sacrifice they had made for freedom
was just beginning. During the first winter, half the Pilgrims –
including Bradford's own wife – died of either starvation, sickness or
exposure. When spring finally came, Indians taught the settlers how to
plant corn, fish for cod and skin beavers for coats.
"Life improved for the Pilgrims, but they did not yet prosper! This is
important to understand because this is where modern American history
lessons often end. Thanksgiving is actually explained in some textbooks
as a holiday for which the Pilgrims gave thanks to the Indians for
saving their lives, rather than as a devout expression of gratitude
grounded in the tradition of both the Old and New Testaments. Here is
the part that has been omitted: The original contract the Pilgrims had
entered into with their merchant-sponsors in London called for
everything they produced to go into a common store, and each member of
the community was entitled to one common share. All of the land they
cleared and the houses they built belonged to the community as well.
They were going to distribute it equally. All of the land they cleared
and the houses they built belonged to the community as well.
"Nobody owned anything. They just had a share in it. It was a commune,
folks. It was the forerunner to the communes we saw in the '60s and '70s
out in California – and it was complete with organic vegetables, by the
way." There's no question they were organic vegetables. "Bradford, who
had become the new governor of the colony, recognized that this form of
collectivism was as costly and destructive to the Pilgrims as that first
harsh winter, which had taken so many lives. He decided to take bold
action. Bradford assigned a plot of land to each family to work and
manage, thus turning loose the power of the marketplace. That's right.
Long before Karl Marx was even born, the Pilgrims had discovered and
experimented with what could only be described as socialism. And what
happened? It didn't work!" They nearly starved!
"It never has worked! What Bradford and his community found was that the
most creative and industrious people had no incentive to work any harder
than anyone else, unless they could utilize the power of personal
motivation! But while most of the rest of the world has been
experimenting with socialism for well over a hundred years – trying to
refine it, perfect it, and re-invent it – the Pilgrims decided early on
to scrap it permanently. What Bradford wrote about this social
experiment should be in every schoolchild's history lesson. If it were,
we might prevent much needless suffering in the future," such as that
we're enduring now. "'The experience that we had in this common course
and condition...'" this is Bradford. "'The experience that we had in
this common course and condition tried sundry years...that by taking
away property, and bringing community into a common wealth, would make
them happy and flourishing – as if they were wiser than God,' Bradford
wrote.
"'For this community [so far as it was] was found to breed much
confusion and discontent, and retard much employment that would have
been to their benefit and comfort. For young men that were most able and
fit for labor and service did repine that they should spend their time
and strength to work for other men's wives and children without any
recompense,'" without being paid for it, "'that was thought injustice.'
Why should you work for other people when you can't work for yourself?"
That's what he was saying. " The Pilgrims found that people could not be
expected to do their best work without incentive. So what did Bradford's
community try next? They unharnessed the power of good old free
enterprise by invoking the undergirding capitalistic principle of
private property.
"Every family was assigned its own plot of land to work and permitted to
market its own crops and products. And what was the result? 'This had
very good success,' wrote Bradford, 'for it made all hands industrious,
so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been.' ... Is
it possible that supply-side economics could have existed before the
1980s? Yes. Read the story of Joseph and Pharaoh in Genesis 41.
Following Joseph's suggestion (Gen 41:34), Pharaoh reduced the tax on
Egyptians to 20% during the 'seven years of plenty' and the 'Earth
brought forth in heaps.' (Gen. 41:47) In no time, the Pilgrims found
they had more food than they could eat themselves.
"Now, this is where it gets really good, folks, if you're laboring under
the misconception that I was, as I was taught in school. So they set up
trading posts and exchanged goods with the Indians. The profits allowed
them to pay off their debts to the merchants in London. And the success
and prosperity of the Plymouth settlement attracted more Europeans and
began what came to be known as the 'Great Puritan Migration.' But this
story stops when the Indians taught the newly arrived
suffering-in-socialism Pilgrims how to plant corn and fish for cod.
That's where the original Thanksgiving story stops, and the story
basically doesn't even begin there. The real story of Thanksgiving is
William Bradford giving thanks to God for the guidance and the
inspiration to set up a thriving colony. The bounty was shared with the
Indians." They did sit down" and they did have free-range turkey and
organic vegetables, "but it was not the Indians who saved the day. It
was capitalism and Scripture which saved the day," as acknowledged by
George Washington in his first Thanksgiving Proclamation in 1789.
--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,
Man_of_Mind
>
> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
--Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
Shall not be infringed
Did you have turkey today or didn't you?
Are you a hypocrite?
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Nov 25, 1:52 pm, Man_of_Mind pointed out the hypocrisy of:
>>
>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>>>
>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>>
>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>>
>> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>
> Did you have turkey today
Not as yet.. Did you want to change the subject about how the
extremist right-wingers have exhibited the very same intolerance
that was posted about the Church of England?
> Are you a hypocrite?
Nope..
--What's your excuse?
Gunner Asch
So you didnt like the story? All true of course.
Did it somehow harm your world view? Bust your bubble? Piss off your
handler?
Now as to the rest of your posting...
Its been the Left who have condemned the Right for nearly 5 decades.
Your every post oozes it.
That has about come to an end..the People are tired of it and are taking
steps to stop it.
Which brings up the Great Cull. I hope it never happens.
But..shrug..you Leftists have 50 yrs of interference with the Founders
intent to be punished for...and its coming. You guys gave us the Great
Depression parts 1 & 2...we will give you death. Sounds like a fair
trade to me.
As for fascist..that would be you Socialists. Countless cites have been
posted showing how fascists are just another brand of Socialist. Need
me to refresh your memory? Just ask.
Theocratic...now that generally means religious. Im Renzi
Buddist...hardly a Christian (which is what you Leftards mean) when you
start babbling about religion yada yada. And there is nothing on usenet
that shows Ive ever used religion as any sort of tool or weapon. So your
further lies are noted yet again
Asshat? An insult from a provably mentally ill enemy of the People?
I glory in it. Because I know you are not going to die well..and there
will be no hesitation on anyones part to stay the hand that butchers
you.
Shrug...you are most likely..dead meat walking. And whoever gets their
hands on you..will not make your passing fast or painless....ooooh
no..not in the slightest. <VBG>
And I hope to at least get some photos, if not some video of your
passing. Perhaps Youtube will be filled with videos of the high points
of the killing of the Leftwingers.
Works..works indeed..for me.
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Man_of_Mind
>
> Man_of_Mind was amused by the delusions of adequacy expressed by:
>>
>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>>>
>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>>
>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>>
>> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>
> So you didnt like the story?
I find it interesting as a contradiction, on your behalf..
> Did it somehow harm your world view?
Nope, just amazing how you don't see how you're acting like the
Church of England with your false absolutes and fascist lies..
> Its been the Left who have condemned the Right for nearly 5 decades.
Nah, you've got it backwards again, Mark..
> That has about come to an end..
More of your bogus 'absolutes'..
> Which brings up the Great Cull. I hope it never happens.
It won't, you're just too full of yourself..
> As for fascist..that would be you Socialists
Nope, that would be historically inaccurate, and nothing more
than you just mouthing words and empty rhetoric. It's nearly
always been the province of right-wing, so-called "conservatives"
that have brought on fascist regimes.. You also keep ignoring
the historic fact that fascists have never advocated socialism,
except masquerade behind the name of "socialism" to advance
their fascist-corporate agenda, and then promptly imprisoned
any socialists afterwards, if there were any left alive..
> Theocratic...now that generally means religious
You have already demonstrated your ignorance, please stop now
before you embarrass yourself even further..
> when you start babbling about religion yada yada
I haven't been "babbling about religion yada yada", Mark..
That would again be yourself..
> And there is nothing on usenet that shows Ive ever used
> religion as any sort of tool or weapon
So, you haven't clue as to what I mentioned about a "fascist
theocracy", and want to expound your failed political ideologies..
Too bad you took it so personally..
> Asshat?
Would you prefer "pompously posturing primate", goober?
> An insult from a provably mentally ill enemy of the People?
Your premise, such as it isn't, lacks veracity from the outset,
and since it is you exhibiting false absolutes so as to demonize
another American as an "enemy of the People", as well as making
death threats because of your intolerant, right-wing fascist
beliefs, I find it interesting how weak-minded you are..
Please continue to exhibit your criminal sociopathy for us, Mark..
> I glory in it.
Of course you do, being the malignantly narcissistic fool that
you are. It's the only way you can justify your lies and silly
accusations against others who disagree with your grandiose ideas..
Example follows..
> Because I know you are not going to die well..
Ya know, there was this guy that similar threats a while back,
and he wound up doing 10 years in federal prison, screwed up
his parole and wound up being sentenced to another 15-20 years..
You must really want that three hots and a cot badly now..
> there will be no hesitation on anyones part to stay the hand
> that butchers you.
Best there isn't, I'm quick and certain when I react to such..
You won't be so lucky..
> Shrug...you are most likely..dead meat walking
Nope, that's yourself. You had the triple bypass and the stroke,
and you'd keel over from the medications you still have to take
if you had to spend one day working with me. I doubt you're as
proficient a tech on as many different applications, and it's
certain that you're lazy minded and make excuses for your mistakes..
Example follows..
> And whoever gets their hands on you..will not make your passing
> fast or painless....ooooh no..not in the slightest.<VBG>
*><LOL!<* Too bad you're not going to live to see that day..
--That's why you're trying to get arrested and put in prison..
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> --That's why you're trying to get arrested and put in prison..
That's probably his fall-back plan when his welfare benefits run out...
--
Regards, Curly
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Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
<VBG>
Time will tell..wont it.
Short time...less than 2 yrs.
And Ill be sitting on my front porch, banjo in hand, listening to the
rising body counts and playing happy riffs as they are reported over the
radio.
Shrug...so thats a threat?
Laugh laugh laugh
Deal with it, ignorant, biased, bigoted and utterly mentally ill Leftard
I know I will. Happily and with great joy plucking away happy riffs.
I hope someone sends me a video of photos of your execution.
<VBG>
Suck it up fucktard. Your days are numbered. It wont be me who deals you
death..but some poor bastard who has had enough Leftism in his life to
break his bonds to morality, sense of fair play..and the law. He might
feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and yours being
bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
And life...will be good..with all of you dead.
Gunner
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind laughed at:
Yup, and you're still trying to make it even worse for yourself..
> Short time...less than 2 yrs.
Nah, I give the initial investigation into you and your 'sedentary
minutiae' and "the List" about six more months..
> And Ill be sitting on my front porch, banjo in hand
No, actually you'll be long gone..
> Deal with it, ignorant, biased, bigoted and utterly mentally ill Leftard
You'll have your Knight of the Long knives soon enough, brown shirt..
> I know I will
Yup, that's what' about to befall your failed political ideology..
Example follows..
> I hope someone sends me a video of photos of your execution.
I hope you're prepared to face charges in federal court..
> Suck it up fucktard. Your days are numbered
*>LOL!<* So, what you're really admitting is that your opinions
and ideas about America don't include freedom of speech, personal
liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and rule of law?
I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
> It wont be me who deals you death..
Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
--Doom on you, goober.. *>LOL!<*
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind wrote:
>
>> --That's why you're trying to get arrested and put in prison..
>
> That's probably his fall-back plan when his welfare benefits run out...
That's what I guessing, too..
--Well, have a Happy Thanksgiving sir.. Dinner's on the table..
Shall not be infringed
> On 11/25/2010 1:00 PM, Shell Not Pee In Public whimpered:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 25, 1:52 pm, Man_of_Mind pointed out the hypocrisy of:
>
> >> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>
> >>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
> >>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
> >>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
> >>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
> >>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
> >>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
> >>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>
> >> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
> >> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
> >> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>
> >> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>
>
> Not as yet.. Did you want to change the subject
I know what the subject is. I started this thread.
If you wanted another subject, you should have searched for one that
better matches your need to comment, or go start your ouwn thread.
So how was your Thanksgiving celebration?
Thanks.
Shall not be infringed
> On 11/25/2010 11:02 AM, Deep Dudu wrote:> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>
> >> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> > Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
> > Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>
> I heard that the Indians are responsible for 400,000 deaths in the US
> every year. They taught the pilgrims how to smoke tobacco ;)
Aren't they selling cigarettes tax-free to the pale-faces on the
reservations?
First Post
Gandalf doesn;t believe in Thanksgiving or the fourth of July or
anything that can be seen as an American holiday or tradition. Like
most progressives he simply despises everything about the nation that
makes it different from the third world shitholes that he admires so
much.
.
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Nov 25, 2:26 pm, Man_of_Mind was recovering from dinner:
>>
>> On 11/25/2010 1:00 PM, Shall Not Be In Fringe whispered:
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 1:52 pm, Man_of_Mind pointed out the hypocrisy of:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>>>>>
>>>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
>>>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
>>>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
>>>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
>>>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
>>>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
>>>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>>>>
>>>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
>>>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>>>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>>>>
>>>> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>>>
>>> Did you have turkey today
>>
>> extremist right-wingers have exhibited the very same intolerance
>> that was posted about the Church of England?
>
Well, maybe you didn't expect Goober Wieber to hijack your posting
with his revisionist history of the origins of Thanksgiving. To that
end, I must apologize. I had just read something regarding that,
so please forgive if I seemed too harsh about it..
Please read..
> So how was your Thanksgiving celebration?
I have many reasons to be thankful, especially now that the family
has dispersed to various sites and further activities..
--I hate to let a good food coma go to waste..
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:23:48 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
> <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2010 1:00 PM, Shell Not Pee In Public whimpered:
>>>> Did you have turkey today?
>>>
>>> Not as yet.. Did you want to change the subject
>>
>> I know what the subject is. I started this thread.
>>
>> If you wanted another subject, you should have searched for one that
>> better matches your need to comment, or go start your ouwn thread.
>>
>> So how was your Thanksgiving celebration?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Gandalf
I'm not "Gandalf"..
--But thanks for letting me know how much you fear him..
5829 Dead, 972 since 1/20/09
So what are you doing for T-Day, poptart?
--
"Experience declares that man is the only animal which
devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to... the general
prey of the rich on the poor." -- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward
Carrington, 1787
--
"Experience declares that man is the only animal which
devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to... the general
prey of the rich on the poor." -- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward
Carrington, 1787
Shall not be infringed
I'll do the Christian thing and forgive you.
> Please read..
>
> http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/spirited_atheist/2010/11/te...
>
> > So how was your Thanksgiving celebration?
>
> I have many reasons to be thankful, especially now that the family
> has dispersed to various sites and further activities..
>
> --I hate to let a good food coma go to waste..-
I'm just glad that you were able to celebrate an American tradition.
Tom Gardner
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> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 Shall not be infringed wrote:
>
>>...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on misc.surv.
>
> I second that greeting.
> WS
>
>
> http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-living/ci_16652766?
> Brooks on Beer: The pilgrims, Thanksgiving and beer
> By Jay R. Brooks
>
> When you sit down tomorrow to enjoy your Thanksgiving dinner, you're
> honoring a tradition that stretches back to some of the first
> Europeans to settle in America. While the pilgrims' story is closely
> tied to beer, it may have played less of a role than we've come to
> believe.
>
> Legend has it that the Pilgrims decided to settle at Plymouth Rock,
> instead of continuing south to Virginia as originally planned, because
> they had run out of beer. There is a grain -- barley, perhaps -- of
> truth to the story, as evidenced by the oft-quoted "For we could not
> now take time for further search our victuals being pretty much spent
> especially our beer."
>
> Shelter before beer
>
> The snippet hails from "Mourt's Relation: A Journal of the Pilgrims at
> Plymouth," written by Edward Winslow and William Bradford from
> November 1620 to November 1621. The fragment, however, merely
> describes a few days exploration. The rest of the passage reveals that
> there were other considerations, too, such as finding cleared land,
> evidence of corn having been planted in recent years and fresh
> drinking water.
>
> Another myth is that the colonists' first building project was a
> brewery. They first built shelter for themselves, as you might expect.
> It wasn't until they'd established themselves for a few months that a
> brewhouse was finally built. As time passed, more people's kitchens
> included home breweries, too. Without traditional brewing ingredients,
> the colonists substituted local items -- with the guidance of Native
> Americans -- such as maize, birch, pumpkin and even spruce.
>
> So where did these legends start? In the years following the end of
> Prohibition, Anheuser-Busch and other breweries began running ads with
> slogans such as "Pilgrim Fathers drank it." The U.S. Brewers
> Association also ran holiday ads using the tagline "Beer, Not Turkey,
> Lured Pilgrims to Plymouth Rock." The beer industry was still stinging
> from 13 years of Prohibition, and they wasted no time trying to
> persuade customers that beer was a fundamental part of America's
> history.
But, but, but...Busch!
>
> The first Thanksgiving
>
> The first Thanksgiving was held after the harvest of 1621. It wasn't
> considered a special holiday, just a normal three-day harvest
> celebration. Turkey was served, along with deer and various types of
> fish. The only two contemporary accounts of the famous meal don't
> mention what the Pilgrims drank, but "Mourt's Relation" mentions that
> the first barley crop yielded "indifferent" results. While it's
> possible some beer was brewed with that barley, it's more likely they
> didn't bother.
Gunner Asch
Mine was rather nice. We had 14 friends over for dinner. We contributed
the vast majority of the food but several others did some of the cooking
and everybody brought something, even if nothing more than a bowl of
jello. A lot of our friends are not doing as well as we are..there have
been some layoffs here in the oil fields recently...and not all are
doing well.
A very good time was had by all and I just woke up from my after dinner
(7 hour nap) nap.
Gunner, who cant believe he slept that long......
Gunner Asch
Yawn.
>
>> Short time...less than 2 yrs.
>
>Nah, I give the initial investigation into you and your 'sedentary
>minutiae' and "the List" about six more months..
Yes..and? <G>
>
>> And Ill be sitting on my front porch, banjo in hand
>
>No, actually you'll be long gone..
>
>> Deal with it, ignorant, biased, bigoted and utterly mentally ill Leftard
>
>You'll have your Knight of the Long knives soon enough, brown shirt..
Knight of the Long Knives? Is that some order like the Masons or
Scottish Rites or something?
>
>> I know I will
>
>Yup, that's what' about to befall your failed political ideology..
>
>Example follows..
>
>> I hope someone sends me a video of photos of your execution.
>
>I hope you're prepared to face charges in federal court..
For looking at photos of your death? Is that considered porn?
>
>> Suck it up fucktard. Your days are numbered
>
>*>LOL!<* So, what you're really admitting is that your opinions
>and ideas about America don't include freedom of speech, personal
>liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and rule of law?
Shrug....its obvious that yours dont. Nor those of any of your ilk.
And yet you cast aspersions on me? LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!
When I predict that Leftwingers will be killed by the People in less
than 2 yrs..IM committing a crime???
You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
Do try to come up with something to back up your claims. Please.
>
>I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
>discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
>death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
>line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
>have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
Death threats? Which ones might those be? Be specific!
>
>Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
>
>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>
>Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank level with a lit
match..it may well kill you...Im complicent with your death?
Thats........interesting indeed.
>
>Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>
>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>
>Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
Involved? Observation is hardly involvment. But..hey..if it makes you
feel good, keep on spewing that Im wrong and am going to jail yada yada
for stating what I believe the future will hold for you.
Perhaps it makes you feel better if you can lambast me for stating what
I believe will happen to you and yours.
But..shrug..it wont change anything. I believe that you will be dead
rather soon.
Ill not be involved in your death, nor than death of anyone, unless Im
personally and physically attacked.
And that old butt...is the facts of the matter.
Now you can keep spewing your blather all you want.
In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong! Its totally up to
you. Not my problem, not my issue. Nor will it be my hand by which you
are killed.
I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing evidence
of your butchery. As will most normal people who have dealt with you
over the years on Usenet.
>
>--Doom on you, goober.. *>LOL!<*
Oh..look...a death threat!!
Laugh laugh laugh!
Quick! Someone call the Feds..the dumb bastard just made a death threat
against me!!
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner Asch
Which streamers are those?
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/25/2010 3:24 PM, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind wrote:
>>
>>> --That's why you're trying to get arrested and put in prison..
>>
>> That's probably his fall-back plan when his welfare benefits run out...
Welfare benefits? Which might those be?
I dont get any. Nor have I applied for any.
Im making it on my own. Barely..but..making it.
>
>That's what I guessing, too..
>
>--Well, have a Happy Thanksgiving sir.. Dinner's on the table..
Guessing is what both of you are noted for. You both are also noted for
being wrong most of the time.
Shrug
Gunner
deepdudu
wrote:
>Indians." They did sit down" and they did have free-range turkey and
>organic vegetables, "but it was not the Indians who saved the day. It
>was capitalism and Scripture which saved the day," as acknowledged by
>George Washington in his first Thanksgiving Proclamation in 1789.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:59:05 -0600, Man_of_Mind restored:
>>
>> On 11/25/2010 3:36 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind laughed at:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man_of_Mind was amused by the delusions of adequacy expressed by:
>>>>>>
>>
>> Nah, I give the initial investigation into you and your 'sedentary
>> minutiae' and "the List" about six more months..
>>
>>
>> No, actually you'll be long gone..
>>
>>> Deal with it, ignorant, biased, bigoted and utterly mentally ill Leftard
>>
>> You'll have your Knight of the Long knives soon enough, brown shirt..
>
> Knight of the Long Knives? Is that some order like
Think 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'.. I slipped in some Freud..
>>> I hope someone sends me a video of photos of your execution.
>>
>> I hope you're prepared to face charges in federal court..
>
> For looking at photos of your death?
*>yawn<*
>>> Suck it up fucktard. Your days are numbered
>>
>> *>LOL!<* So, what you're really admitting is that your opinions
>> and ideas about America don't include freedom of speech, personal
>> liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and rule of law?
>
> Shrug....its obvious that
Evasion noted..
> And yet you cast aspersions on me?
No 'aspersion' to it, Mark..
> When I predict that Leftwingers will be killed by the People in less
> than 2 yrs..IM committing a crime???
I wonder what ever happened to Michael Fortier..
> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
>> I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
>> discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
>> death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
>> line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
>> have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
>>
>> Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
>
> Death threats? Which ones might those be?
Evasion noted..
>>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>>
>> Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>> complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
>>
>> Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>
> Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank
Evasion by false equivalency noted..
>>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>>
>> Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>> been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
>
> Involved? Observation is hardly involvment.
Oh, so you're 'observing' events that have yet to take place?
> I believe that you will be dead rather soon.
*>LOL!<* You keep on contradicting yourself, like sociopath..
> Now you can keep spewing your blather all you want.
You're projecting your own sociopathy, Mark..
> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
blindly accept your narrow-minded political beliefs..
Example follows..
> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
--Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
Walter Harding
> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
Yes, yes, we get it. You're a bigot who hates Christians.
Gray Ghost
You still have this dick on the hook? Goodness he's s dope.
--
Democrat donkey pontificating:
Americans only oppose Obama because they are racist....
Americans were against the stiumulus because they are uneducated....
Americans oppose socialism because they are greedy....
Americans are against Obamacare because they are stupid....
Americans are opposed to the Ground Zero mosque because they are bigots....
I just can't figure why Americans are opposed to us.
Maybe 'cuz we're racist, uneducated, greedy, stupid bigots.
Or maybe it's 'cuz you morons sound like Nazis talking about Jews in the
1930s.
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:48:10 -0600, Man_of_Mind commented to:
>>
>> On 11/25/2010 3:24 PM, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind wrote:
>>>>
---->
>>>>> And whoever gets their hands on you..will not make your passing
>>>>> fast or painless....ooooh no..not in the slightest.<VBG>
>>>>
>>>> *><LOL!<* Too bad you're not going to live to see that day..
>>>>
>>>
>
> Welfare benefits?
Didn't you have a triple bypass surgery, followed by a stroke?
>> That's what I guessing, too..
>>
>> --Well, have a Happy Thanksgiving sir.. Dinner's on the table..
>
> Guessing is what both of you are noted for
I'll match your 'observations' with my 'educated guesses'
any time you'd like Mark. Guess which of us is assured
about the outcome of such a 'contest'?
--Oh, and have a Happy Thanksgiving weekend, Mark..
Gunner Asch
Truely. But he doesnt play as well as he used to. Either we are
running out of patience, or he has run his wad and is now doing the
rerun thing.
A couple more exchanges and Ill put the stupid fuck in the kill file,
right after something delightfuly pithy and sharp, stuck in his belly.
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/26/2010 5:51 AM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:48:10 -0600, Man_of_Mind commented to:
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2010 3:24 PM, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/2010 1:56 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
>---->
>>>>>> And whoever gets their hands on you..will not make your passing
>>>>>> fast or painless....ooooh no..not in the slightest.<VBG>
>>>>>
>>>>> *><LOL!<* Too bad you're not going to live to see that day..
>>>>>
>>>>> --That's why you're trying to get arrested and put in prison.
>>>>
>>>> That's probably his fall-back plan when his welfare benefits run out...
>>
>> Welfare benefits?
>
>Didn't you have a triple bypass surgery, followed by a stroke?
Sure did. And?
Care to describe which welfare benefits I got?
>
>>> That's what I guessing, too..
>>>
>>> --Well, have a Happy Thanksgiving sir.. Dinner's on the table..
>>
>> Guessing is what both of you are noted for
>
>I'll match your 'observations' with my 'educated guesses'
>any time you'd like Mark. Guess which of us is assured
>about the outcome of such a 'contest'?
Between you and pond scum..Id lay money on the pond scum being more
correct.
>
>--Oh, and have a Happy Thanksgiving weekend, Mark..
Oh..now you changed it to Weekend? Better. The last such statement
indicated you thought today was Thanksgiving
Have a nice weekend, Mindless Man
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When I predict that Leftwingers will be killed by the People in less
>> than 2 yrs..IM committing a crime???
>
>I wonder what ever happened to Michael Fortier..
Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols move and sell stolen guns and survey
the building in anticipation of the attack. Lori forged a driver's
license for McVeigh.[1] Michael Joseph Fortier was born in Maine in
1968, then moved with his family to Kingman, Arizona at age seven. After
graduating from Kingman High, Fortier entered the army, where he met
Timothy McVeigh at Fort Benning, Georgia in 1988. The company, which
also included Terry Nichols, moved on to Fort Riley, Kansas, where
Fortier served until his honorable discharge in May 1991.
Seems like he was tried and convicted of actual crimes. You didnt know
this?
Or are you accusing me of committing actual crimes of violence etc etc?
Please advise clearly as to what crimes you are accusing me of.
My lawyer hates reading between the lines.
>
>> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
>
>Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
No..you have implied..but never stated directly what you accuse me of.
Feel free to do so.
>
>>> I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
>>> discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
>>> death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
>>> line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
>>> have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
>>>
>>> Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
>>
>> Death threats? Which ones might those be?
>
>Evasion noted..
Indeed your evasion is noted.
>
>>>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>>>
>>> Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>>> complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
Odd..where is that? And what premeditated acts might those be?
And Complicity? With whom?????
>>>
>>> Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>>
>> Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank
>
>Evasion by false equivalency noted..
Evasion by buffoonery noted with great amusement.
>
>>>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>>>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>>>
>>> Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>>> been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
>>
>> Involved? Observation is hardly involvment.
>
>Oh, so you're 'observing' events that have yet to take place?
Nope. Ill be observing events as they happen. Radio, Internet, TV will
all cover the Great Cull with great detail. Hideous detail ....nasty
detail. The pathos of those hanging from street lamps by strands of
barbed wire..their tounges protruding from blackened faces...those
dumped on the street, obviously hidiously tortured and for hours and
days....you know..the bad things the People will be doing to those on
the Leftwing....shrug.
Im currently observing the stages leading up to the Great Cull and am
remarking on what those observations indicate.
"Ill bet that if that stupid fuck keeps pissing off that street gang,
they are going to kill him"
And you have been pissing off people for a very long time.
>
>> I believe that you will be dead rather soon.
>
>*>LOL!<* You keep on contradicting yourself, like sociopath..
>
>> Now you can keep spewing your blather all you want.
>
>You're projecting your own sociopathy, Mark..
Observation equals "sociopathy"?
Fascinating indeed!!
So Morely Safer and Dan Rather are sociopaths?
Ben Franklin was a sociopath?
Walter Cronkeit was a sociopath?
Ted Kopel was a sociopath?
Andy Rooney was a...never mind...he probably is....
>> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
>
>Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
>you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
Complicity? With whom? Those that ultimately murder you?
Ill bet good money that I dont know those people. I dont even know who
you are, where you live. Nor do I care to do so.
Not even a good try there, old fudgepacker.
>
>> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
>
>It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
>already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
>and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
>blindly accept your political beliefs..
Of course I do!! Its long over due. Notice I snipped out "narrow
minded" as it is hardly accurate and in fact..should properly be
applied to you.
Im as biased as can be towards the rewards the nation will ultimately
gain by the deaths of the Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kooks and their
accomplises. Like Walter Cronkeit was. Like Bill Mauldin was, and so
on. But did either of them pick up a gun and take lives?
Not to my knowlege...yours?
>
>Example follows..
>
>> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
>> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
>> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
>
>Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
>espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
>end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
>your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
Time will tell. Of course..we havent had a "second American Revolution"
AKA "the Great Cull" since 1776..though we came somewhat close in
1861-1865
For your families sake..I hope you take them all out of the country
before the killing starts. Or better yet..you Send them out of the
country before it starts. You on the other hand..really need to stay
and face your judgement. Shrug
I have nothing to do with your bad decisions..so its up to you to make
the right ones, at the right time.
>
>--Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
Your opinion, like mine, is noted
Shrug. In 3 yrs..we may or may not be able to chat about it. Frankly..I
rather doubt you will be around ..but hey..it could have been nothing
more than a "vision" which was caused by the stroke. Which Ive stated
repeatedly, in great hope that it was stroke caused.
Time will tell indeed.
Man_of_Mind
>
> Man_of_Mind restored the hilarious bitch-slappings bestowed upon:
>>
>> On 11/26/2010 5:49 AM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) whined impotently at:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:59:05 -0600, Man_of_Mind restored:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2010 3:36 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0600, Man_of_Mind laughed at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/25/2010 1:56 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
>>> than 2 yrs..IM committing a crime???
>>
>> I wonder what ever happened to Michael Fortier..
>
> Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols
Yeah, yeah, but what happened afterwards to him?
"Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison and fined $200,000
on May 27, 1998 for failing to warn authorities about the attack."
>>> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
>>
>> Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
>
> No..you have implied..
As have you..
>>>> I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
>>>> discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
>>>> death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
>>>> line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
>>>> have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
>>>>
>>>> Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
>>>
>>> Death threats? Which ones might those be?
>>
>> Evasion noted..
>
> Indeed
*>yawn<* Your 'brinkmanship' is but a ruptured ego diaper..
Please have an adult attended to it immediately..
>>>>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>>>>
>>>> Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>>>> complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
>>>>
>>>> Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>>>
>>> Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank
>>
>> Evasion by false equivalency noted..
>
> Evasion by buffoonery
Nope, you're the one that stated clearly death threats again many..
>>>>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>>>>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>>>> been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
>>>
>>> Involved? Observation is hardly involvment.
>>
>> Oh, so you're 'observing' events that have yet to take place?
>
> Nope. Ill be observing events as they happen
Nope, you've already implied that the plans are made..
Example follows..
> Radio, Internet, TV will
> all cover the Great Cull with great detail. Hideous detail ....nasty
> detail. The pathos of those hanging from street lamps by strands of
> barbed wire..their tounges protruding from blackened faces...those
> dumped on the street, obviously hidiously tortured and for hours and
> days....you know..the bad things the People will be doing to those on
> the Leftwing....shrug.
Yup, and then you convict yourself still further..
> Im currently observing the stages leading up to the Great Cull
> and am remarking on what those observations indicate.
Your "observations" are without a factual basis, or you are
guilty of sedition, murder and will be convicted with your
very own words.. How silly of you.. *>LOL!<*
>>> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
>>
>> Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
>> you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
>
> Complicity? With whom? Those that ultimately murder you?
Why do you have to ask, Mark Wieber?
> Ill bet good money that I dont know those people. I dont even
> know who you are, where you live. Nor do I care to do so.
Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>chuckling<*
>>> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
>>
>> It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
>> already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
>> and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
>> blindly accept your narrow-minded political beliefs..
>
> Of course I do!! Its long over due. Notice I snipped out "narrow
> minded"
Notice I quoted it back for you to deny yet again?
>>> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
>>> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
>>> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
>>
>> Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
>> espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
>> end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
>> your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
>
> Time will tell.
Yup, and Time is telling on YOU now..
> Of course..we havent had a "second American Revolution"
Nor will we, owing the lack of spine in you 'militant-dilettantes'..
>> --Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
>
> Your opinion
No, my "observations"..
> Shrug. In 3 yrs..we may or may not be able to chat about it.
Nice backpedal you've got there, Mark..
> Frankly..I rather doubt you will be around
Yeah, but if you're wrong..
--It's been nice chatting with you..
Man_of_Mind
>
> Gay Goat was sniveling like a militant-dilettante:
--
> A couple more exchanges and Ill put the stupid fuck in the kill file,
> right after something delightfuly pithy and sharp, stuck in his belly.
Keep telling on yourself, you impotently narrow-minded right-wing loon..
--And Happy Thanksgiving, Mark..
Buddy Beavers
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:e5c0f6956vdiqrabs...@4ax.com...
> "Buddy Beavers" <Bu...@Beavers.invalid> wrote:
>>"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net>
>
>>> http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-living/ci_16652766?
>>> Brooks on Beer: The pilgrims, Thanksgiving and beer
>
>>> So where did these legends start? In the years following the end of
>>> Prohibition, Anheuser-Busch and other breweries began running ads with
>>> slogans such as "Pilgrim Fathers drank it." The U.S. Brewers
>>> Association also ran holiday ads using the tagline "Beer, Not Turkey,
>>> Lured Pilgrims to Plymouth Rock." The beer industry was still stinging
>>> from 13 years of Prohibition, and they wasted no time trying to
>>> persuade customers that beer was a fundamental part of America's
>>> history.
>>
>>But, but, but...Busch!
>
> Cute.
>
> You will probably be happy to know Mrs. McCain owns most of the beer
> distribution in my area. So John will never be short of campaign
> cash.
You should ask her to add more Grolsch to the distribution list. Or have the
supplies been replenished? I'll be in Phoenix next month, so I'll see fore
myself I guess.
Shall not be infringed
wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank <frankperiodlogu...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
> >> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>
> >>> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> >>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>
>
> > Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>
> Voices in your head again?
What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
Man_of_Mind
> Goodness he's s dope.
--You should see the view from here, militant-dilettante..
TSA Supervisor
message
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> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
>
> shouldn't
> be sitting down to a turkey dinner today or doing anything
> thanksgiving related. Don't be a hypocrite.
>
What about Government Employees?
Shall not be infringed
> "Shall not be infringed" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:ebf4dd0e-0f81-4de2...@j32g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> > Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on misc.surv.
>
> > If you are one of the practicing atheists on this group you
> > shouldn't
> > be sitting down to a turkey dinner today or doing anything
> > thanksgiving related. Don't be a hypocrite.
>
> What about Government Employees?
Government employees are still allowed to keep their faith... for the
time being.
Buddy Beavers
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He's only atheist until he sees others having fun, then the drooling starts.
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> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
Man_of_Mind
> On Nov 25, 12:40 pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>>>>
>>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>>>
>>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>>
>> Voices in your head again?
>
> What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
Nope, that's entirely a "christian" myth..
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/590003/Thanksgiving-Day
--It was adapted from pagan culture in Europe..
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>On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:13:47 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>Didn't you have a triple bypass surgery, followed by a stroke?
>>
>>Sure did. And?
>>
>>Care to describe which welfare benefits I got?
>>>
>
>a lost brain?
>
Ask him if he's got a glass eye and a wooden leg.
5791 Dead, 934 since 1/20/09
Atheists do feel gratitude. We just don't feel it toward invisible
cosmic sky muffins.
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> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:23:48 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
> <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 25, 2:26 pm, Man_of_Mind<baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2010 1:00 PM, Shell Not Pee In Public whimpered:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 25, 1:52 pm, Man_of_Mind pointed out the hypocrisy of:
>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>>>
>>>>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
>>>>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
>>>>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
>>>>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
>>>>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
>>>>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
>>>>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>>>
>>>>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
>>>>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>>>>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>>>
>>>>> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>>>
>>>> Did you have turkey today?
>>>
>>> Not as yet.. Did you want to change the subject
>>
>> I know what the subject is. I started this thread.
>>
>> If you wanted another subject, you should have searched for one that
>> better matches your need to comment, or go start your ouwn thread.
>>
>> So how was your Thanksgiving celebration?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Gandalf doesn;t believe in Thanksgiving or the fourth of July or
> anything that can be seen as an American holiday or tradition. Like
> most progressives he simply despises everything about the nation that
> makes it different from the third world shitholes that he admires so
> much.
Too bad you're so lousy at guessing other people's motivations. Being a
right winger means you attribute everything to being a "leftist", which
couldn't be more wrong. I'll assume that people like you are too young,
inexperienced, and unsophisticated to see American "holidays" for what
they really are, which is mainly nothing but commercial events made for
business to hawk their merchandise to ignorant masses who like shiny new
things.
Then there are those who have simply had enough of it. Fifty years of
"Thanksgiving" or Ho, ho, ho, grows tiresome for all but the really dull
of us. In my area one radio station has switched from its regular music
from the 60s and 70s to nothing but Christmas music. Needless to say, I
won't be listening to that station until after the first of the year
when it goes back to normal. I mean, who wouldn't think more than a
month of Christmas music is a bit much? The fact is all this
commercialism, which is all the holidays are, wears the patience of
everyone but the newbies. I loved Christmas as a kid but not anymore. I
can't wait until December ends and the new year starts. But that has
nothing to do with being a progressive or admiring third world shit
holes. In the last decade this country has become as much of a shit hole
as I can take.
Hawke
TSA Supervisor
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder what ever happened to Michael Fortier..
>>
>> Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols
>
>Yeah, yeah, but what happened afterwards to him?
>
>"Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison and fined $200,000
> on May 27, 1998 for failing to warn authorities about the attack."
You missed out on this..and be sure the authorities didnt:
"Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols move and sell stolen guns and survey
the building in anticipation of the attack"
>
>>>> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
>>>
>>> Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
>>
>> No..you have implied..
>
>As have you..
Again..Cites? How can I be sitting in a rocking chair on my porch and
at the same time out and doing bad things to evil people?
>
>>>>> I was pretty certain that you were too weak-minded to actually
>>>>> discuss your opinions, with the way you fall back on insults,
>>>>> death threats and false absolutes. But, now you've crossed the
>>>>> line, obviously hoping for a long prison sentence so you won't
>>>>> have to take care of yourself or your family any longer..
>>>>>
>>>>> Gads, what a cop-out.. you fold up easier than a cheap suitcase..
>>>>
>>>> Death threats? Which ones might those be?
>>>
>>> Evasion noted..
>>
>> Indeed
>
>*>yawn<* Your 'brinkmanship' is but a ruptured ego diaper..
Your brain stem is but a used diaper from a colicy baby.
>
>Please have an adult attended to it immediately..
When one is around..Id suggest the same to you.
>
>>>>>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>>>>>
>>>>> Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>>>>> complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>>>>
>>>> Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank
>>>
>>> Evasion by false equivalency noted..
>>
>> Evasion by buffoonery
>
>Nope, you're the one that stated clearly death threats again many..
Ive asked for cites to your claim repeatedly..and still you are unable
or unwilling to provide any such "death threats"
Could it be because you are just a lying cocksucker..or is there another
reason?
>
>>>>>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>>>>>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>>>>> been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
>>>>
>>>> Involved? Observation is hardly involvment.
>>>
>>> Oh, so you're 'observing' events that have yet to take place?
>>
>> Nope. Ill be observing events as they happen
>
>Nope, you've already implied that the plans are made..
Im sure there are indeed plans. And based on such events in other
nations...the below is very very likely to happen. Which is a very good
thing. <G>
>
>Example follows..
>
>> Radio, Internet, TV will
>> all cover the Great Cull with great detail. Hideous detail ....nasty
>> detail. The pathos of those hanging from street lamps by strands of
>> barbed wire..their tounges protruding from blackened faces...those
>> dumped on the street, obviously hidiously tortured and for hours and
>> days....you know..the bad things the People will be doing to those on
>> the Leftwing....shrug.
>
>Yup, and then you convict yourself still further..
>
>> Im currently observing the stages leading up to the Great Cull
>> and am remarking on what those observations indicate.
>
>Your "observations" are without a factual basis, or you are
>guilty of sedition, murder and will be convicted with your
>very own words.. How silly of you.. *>LOL!<*
So you dont believe that there is any factual basis. I do. So which one
of us is correct? Time indeed will tell. Care to put you life on it?
Hence your claims that my observations are flawed or non existant is the
key to your entire argument, from the looks of things.
Sucks to be a blind, mentally ill leftard nut case, from the looks of
it.
And sadly..I have no pity for you and your plight.
>
>>>> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
>>>
>>> Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
>>> you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
You are simply spewing half understood words. Yawn...please provide a
legal definition of "sedition" if you would be so kind. And provide the
cite link as well <G>. I dont trust you a micron.
>>
>> Complicity? With whom? Those that ultimately murder you?
>
>Why do you have to ask, Mark Wieber?
Because you make grandious claims...<G> and yet you are unable to back
up a smidgeon of your bullshit. Thats why I ask.
>
>> Ill bet good money that I dont know those people. I dont even
>> know who you are, where you live. Nor do I care to do so.
>
>Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>chuckling<*
How so? Did I claim I would be the one killing you? How could I? As I
stated above..I have no clue who you are, where you live and Id have to
leave the porch, the banjo and the radio to take care of you..and thats
not in the cards. You arent worth the gas to cross town.
On the other hand..as Ive stated..others close to you will do the deed.
Which is perfectly fine with me. <VBG>
>
>>>> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
>>>
>>> It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
>>> already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
>>> and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
>>> blindly accept your narrow-minded political beliefs..
>>
>> Of course I do!! Its long over due. Notice I snipped out "narrow
>> minded"
>
>Notice I quoted it back for you to deny yet again?
Huh?
>
>>>> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
>>>> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
>>>> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
>>>
>>> Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
>>> espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
>>> end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
>>> your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
>>
>> Time will tell.
>
>Yup, and Time is telling on YOU now..
Of course it is. Im now 57, and have been rode hard and put away wet
more than once. Shrug. And?
>
>> Of course..we havent had a "second American Revolution"
>
>Nor will we, owing the lack of spine in you 'militant-dilettantes'..
Please hold that thought. <VBG> I hope they, whoever it is..captures
the expression as you suddenly realize..you were wrong.
>
>>> --Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
>>
>> Your opinion
>
>No, my "observations"..
Ok. Ill grant you that.
>
>> Shrug. In 3 yrs..we may or may not be able to chat about it.
>
>Nice backpedal you've got there, Mark..
Which backpedal would that be?
>
>> Frankly..I rather doubt you will be around
>
>Yeah, but if you're wrong..
>
>--It's been nice chatting with you..
Its not been nice chatting with you. I suddenly feel the need to take a
nice long shower to get the slobber and drool you spewed ..off my skin.
Gunner Asch
Odd..your momma didnt think I was impotent. <VBG>
>
>--And Happy Thanksgiving, Mark..
Thanksgiving was yesterday, you buffoonish fuctard.
Gunner Asch
>On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:13:47 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>Didn't you have a triple bypass surgery, followed by a stroke?
>>
>>Sure did. And?
>>
>>Care to describe which welfare benefits I got?
>>>
>
>a lost brain?
>
Does S.F. stand for San Francisco?
Sorry dude..Im not gay and sweet talking me simply wont work.
On the other hand Mindless Man might just take you.
Gunner Asch
Why..you missing them?
Gunner Asch
So who do you feel gratitude towards? Your Top after a good reaming?
Gunner Asch
>On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:43:38 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Or are you accusing me of committing actual crimes of violence etc etc?
>
>
>No----of being stupid
>
>Are you daft?
I should take seriously such a question from a typically mentally ill
Leftwinger?
What makes you think anyone normal, would?
Gunner
Rich Grise
Neither of you has a clue.
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/11/24/this-weeks-column-happy-starvation-day/
Of course, the liberals will call me all manner of liar etc, since they have
The True Faith, and STILL believe that socialism can work even in the face
of the ongoing bankruptcy of eurosocialism. Europe might be cluing up a
little, even as Commissar Obama continues to fight for throwing America
down the same socialist toilet.
BTW, the one that came from the Pagans is Xmas, which, since nobody knows
when Jesus was actually born, they decided to declare his birthday to have
happened on the Pagan Solstice festival, when everybody threw a party
heaving a big sigh of relief when they realized that winter really _would_
end in only a few months.
Thanks,
Rich
Curly Surmudgeon
<gopart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>
> Yes, yes, we get it. You're a bigot who hates Christians.
How long have you had this persecution complex?
--
Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:43:38 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Or are you accusing me of committing actual crimes of violence etc etc?
>
>
> No----of being stupid
>
> Are you daft?
Rhetorical question.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> On 11/26/2010 5:46 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
Am I still stalking the cockroach?
Not long ago, after being in my killfile for a year or two, the cockroach
claimed that I as stalking him. Nym-shifter tells so many lies he can no
longer keep them straight...
Walter Harding
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:13:25 -0800, Walter Harding
> <gopart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
> >> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
> >> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
> >
> > Yes, yes, we get it. You're a bigot who hates Christians.
>
> How long have you had this persecution complex?
Anytime I talk to a bigot who's comfortable with using the phrase
"theocratic asshat".
You...are...a ... bigot. The real deal. You're obsesses with hatred
for Christians. Deal with it.
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Man_of_Mind
>
> Man_of_Mind restored the hilarious bitch-slappings bestowed upon:
>>
>> On 11/26/2010 2:43 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) deleted and bleated at:
>>>
>>> Man_of_Mind restored the hilarious bitch-slappings bestowed upon:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2010 5:49 AM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) whined impotently at:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:59:05 -0600, Man_of_Mind restored:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/25/2010 3:36 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) replied:
------>
>>>>>>> Suck it up fucktard. Your days are numbered
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *>LOL!<* So, what you're really admitting is that your opinions
>>>>>> and ideas about America don't include freedom of speech, personal
>>>>>> liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and rule of law?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shrug....its obvious that
>>>>
>>>> Evasion noted..
>>>>
>>>>> And yet you cast aspersions on me?
>>>>
>>>> No 'aspersion' to it, Mark..
>>>>
>>>>> When I predict that Leftwingers will be killed by the People in less
>>>>> than 2 yrs..IM committing a crime???
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what ever happened to Michael Fortier..
>>>
>>> Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols
>>
>> Yeah, yeah, but what happened afterwards to him?
>>
>> "Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison and fined $200,000
>> on May 27, 1998 for failing to warn authorities about the attack."
>
> You missed out on this..and be sure the authorities didnt:
Yeah, the gun shows were unwitting accomplices too.. But
there were several of your "militant-dilettante" leaders
who were apprised of the plot, no "others, unknown" here..
>>>>> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
>>>
>>> No..you have implied..
>>
>> As have you..
>
> Again..Cites?
"With luck, you will be "culled""
"He should be. I understand he is on the List."
"Seems like there are a decent number of people who want you dead."
"You will still be killed. Shrug. My hands are clean..will be
clean of any responsibility for your death."
"As I said..its very much up to you how you want to handle
what someone named the Great Cull that IS coming."
>>>>>>> It wont be me who deals you death..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got some bad news for you on that, goober. You're admitting
>>>>>> complicity, and knowledge of said premeditated acts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything else you'd like to convict yourself with?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? So if I state ..humm...you check your gas tank
>>>>
>>>> Evasion by false equivalency noted..
>>>
>>> Evasion by buffoonery
>>
>> Nope, you're the one that stated clearly death threats again many..
>
> Ive asked for cites
And I've presented many instances, and all you've done is confirm them..
Example follows..
>>>>>>> He might feel some guilt..but I will only feel joy at you and
>>>>>>> yours being bulldozed into mass graves all across the land.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, so you're actually involved in an insurrection that's
>>>>>> been planned for quite a while, is that what you're saying?
>>>>>
>>>>> Involved? Observation is hardly involvment.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, so you're 'observing' events that have yet to take place?
>>>
>>> Nope. Ill be observing events as they happen
>>
>> Nope, you've already implied that the plans are made..
>
> Im sure there are indeed plans. And based on such events in
> other nations...the below is very very likely to happen.
"Im largely dont smoking, the shooting hobby hasnt cost me a
thing...I have a reasonable quantity of powders, bullets and
primers stocked away...for at least another 5 yrs ...at least.
Even when the Great Cull comes and people have to borrow ammo
from me to kill you ..Ill have enough."
>>> Radio, Internet, TV will
>>> all cover the Great Cull with great detail. Hideous detail ....nasty
>>> detail. The pathos of those hanging from street lamps by strands of
>>> barbed wire..their tounges protruding from blackened faces...those
>>> dumped on the street, obviously hidiously tortured and for hours and
>>> days....you know..the bad things the People will be doing to those on
>>> the Leftwing....shrug.
>>
>> Yup, and then you convict yourself still further..
>>
>>> Im currently observing the stages leading up to the Great Cull
>>> and am remarking on what those observations indicate.
>>
>> Your "observations" are without a factual basis, or you are
>> guilty of sedition, murder and will be convicted with your
>> very own words.. How silly of you.. *>LOL!<*
>
> So you dont believe that there is any factual basis
You've been blathering about it for year, prior to the stroke..
> So which one of us is correct?
*>LOL!<* It's self-evident, which is why it escapes your grasp..
Example follows..
> Hence your claims that my observations are flawed or non existant
> is the key to your entire argument
Nope, that would be a flawed premise on your behalf..
> And sadly..I have no pity for you and your plight.
There is no "plight" such as you have imagined, Mark..
>>>>> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
>>>>
>>>> Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
>>>> you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
>>>
>>> Complicity? With whom? Those that ultimately murder you?
>>
>> Why do you have to ask, Mark Wieber?
>
> You are simply spewing half understood words
No, that would again be yourself, Mark..
Example follows..
> Because you make grandious claims...
No, that would again be yourself, Mark..
>>> Ill bet good money that I dont know those people. I dont even
>>> know who you are, where you live. Nor do I care to do so.
>>
>> Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>chuckling<*
>
> How so? Did I claim I would be the one killing you?
"You on the other hand..will be mentally ill until you are
murdered in the upcoming Great Cull."
> I have no clue who you are, where you live and Id have to
> leave the porch, the banjo and the radio to take care of you..
Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>guffaw!<*
>>>>> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
>>>>
>>>> It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
>>>> already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
>>>> and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
>>>> blindly accept your narrow-minded political beliefs..
>>>
>>> Of course I do!! Its long over due. Notice I snipped out "narrow
>>> minded"
>>
>> Notice I quoted it back for you to deny yet again?
>
> Huh?
Short attention span, Mark?
>>>>> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
>>>>> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
>>>>> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
>>>> espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
>>>> end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
>>>> your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
>>>
>>> Time will tell.
>>
>> Yup, and Time is telling on YOU now..
>
> Of course it is. Im now 57, and have been rode hard and put away wet
Yes, but your intentional ignorance has no similar excuse..
>>> Of course..we havent had a "second American Revolution"
>>
>> Nor will we, owing the lack of spine in you 'militant-dilettantes'..
>
> Please hold that thought. <VBG> I hope they, whoever it is..
Yeah, you keep on making your militant-dilettante noises..
It will be your undoing..
>>>> --Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
>>>
>>> Your opinion
>>
>> No, my "observations"..
>
> Ok. Ill grant you that.
Whatever, little militant-dilettante..
>>> Shrug. In 3 yrs..we may or may not be able to chat about it.
>>
>> Nice backpedal you've got there, Mark..
>>
>>> Frankly..I rather doubt you will be around
>>
>> Yeah, but if you're wrong..
>>
>> --It's been nice chatting with you..
>
> Its not been nice chatting with you.
Too bad, now are you going to go run away and hide behind
your kill-file filter and pretend your moral high ground
with your usual self-righteous indignation?
--Gads, you're really full of yourself. Check your ego diaper yet?
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:17:15 -0600, Man_of_Mind was laughing at:
>>
>> On 11/26/2010 2:03 PM, Goober Aft (Mark Wieber) whined impotently:
>>>
>>> Gay Goat was sniveling like a militant-dilettante:
>>> A couple more exchanges and Ill put the stupid fuck in the kill file,
>>> right after something delightfuly pithy and sharp, stuck in his belly.
>>
>> Keep telling on yourself, you impotently narrow-minded right-wing loon..
>
> Odd..your momma didnt think I was impotent.<VBG>
Odd, you have fallen back on a prepubescent insult that has nothing
to do with reality. Would you like to try again, you impotent idiot?
>> --And Happy Thanksgiving, Mark..
>
> Thanksgiving was yesterday, you buffoonish fuctard.
*>LOL!<* So, you're an impotent right-wing coward that has
nothing more than adolescent epithets and threats to make
you feel better about your immaturity and insecurities..
--Have a nice holiday weekend, Mark..
Shall not be infringed
> On 11/25/2010 5:32 PM, First Post wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:23:48 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
How so? What motivates people to want free food? free housing? free
transportation? free babysitting? free medical care?
money back at tax time that was never paid in?
Can you tell us what kind of values those are?
> I'll assume that people like you are too young,
> inexperienced, and unsophisticated to see American "holidays" for what
> they really are, which is mainly nothing but commercial events made for
> business to hawk their merchandise to ignorant masses who like shiny new
> things.
It costs nothing to wish someone a Merry Christmas, or to remember
that Jesus came to us for a reason.
If you want to be a cheapskate, you can just hold those two thoughts
and your wallet will be unscathed.
> Then there are those who have simply had enough of it. Fifty years of
> "Thanksgiving" or Ho, ho, ho, grows tiresome for all but the really dull
> of us.
We forgot. You and Curls are the next step in the evolutionary ascent
of man.
So sorry.
> In my area one radio station has switched from its regular music
> from the 60s and 70s to nothing but Christmas music. Needless to say, I
> won't be listening to that station until after the first of the year
> when it goes back to normal.
60's and 70's music is normal?
> I mean, who wouldn't think more than a
> month of Christmas music is a bit much? The fact is all this
> commercialism, which is all the holidays are, wears the patience of
> everyone but the newbies.
So don't participate in the commercialness of it.
> I loved Christmas as a kid but not anymore. I
> can't wait until December ends and the new year starts. But that has
> nothing to do with being a progressive or admiring third world shit
> holes. In the last decade this country has become as much of a shit hole
> as I can take.
>
> Ebenezer Hawke
Welp, open borders and bed bugs goes hand in hand.
Man_of_Mind
>
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:13:25 -0800, falters, farting <gopart...@gmail.com> whined:
>>>
>>> Man_of_Mind restored the original text/context:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>>>>>
>>>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
>>>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
>>>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
>>>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
>>>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
>>>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
>>>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>>>>
>>>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
>>>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> How long have you had this persecution complex?
>
> Anytime I talk to a bigot who's comfortable with using the phrase
> "theocratic asshat".
That's "fascist theocratic asshat", you self-righteous right-wing retard..
> You're obsesses with hatred for Christians
No, I'm ridiculing your obsession with beliefs that don't have
a factual basis in reality, nor will I have you trying to pretend
your beliefs have the force of law..
--It's in the Constitution, in case you forgot..
Buddy Beavers
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:icqdtq$8n0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:58:28 -0600, Man_of_Mind <baron.v...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/26/2010 5:46 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>> On Nov 25, 12:40 pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>>>>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>>>>
>>>> Voices in your head again?
>>>
>>> What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
>>
>> Nope, that's entirely a "christian" myth..
>>
>> http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/590003/Thanksgiving-Day
>>
>> --It was adapted from pagan culture in Europe..
>
> Am I still stalking the cockroach?
>
> Not long ago, after being in my killfile for a year or two, the cockroach
> claimed that I as stalking him. Nym-shifter tells so many lies he can no
> longer keep them straight...
>
Why do you still stalk him?
Shall not be infringed
What's an invisible cosmic sky muffin?
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:20:26 -0800, "5791 Dead, 934 since 1/20/09" replied:
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:58:28 -0600, Man_of_Mind replied to:
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2010 5:46 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 25, 12:40 pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>>>>>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Voices in your head again?
>>>>
>>>> What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
>>>
>>> Nope, that's entirely a "christian" myth..
>>>
>>> http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/590003/Thanksgiving-Day
>>>
>>> --It was adapted from pagan culture in Europe..
>>
>> Atheists do feel gratitude. We just don't feel it toward invisible
>> cosmic sky muffins.
>
> So who do you feel gratitude towards? Your Top after a good reaming?
Ahh, another prepubescent epithet from a retarded right-wing loser..
--Too much aerosol-borne lead does that to you gun-cunts..
Shall not be infringed
> On 11/26/2010 5:46 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 25, 12:40 pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank wrote:
> >>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed wrote:
> >>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>
> >>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
> >>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>
> >>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>
> >>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>
> >> Voices in your head again?
>
> > What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
>
> Nope, that's entirely a "christian" myth..
>
> http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/590003/Thanksgiving-Day
>
> --It was adapted from pagan culture in Europe..
"Thanksgiving Day, annual national holiday in the United States and
Canada celebrating the harvest and other BLESSINGS of the past year."
Do you know what "blessings" are?
Buddy Beavers
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gc81f6te0tq83ccrn...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:20:26 -0800, "5791 Dead, 934 since 1/20/09"
> <dead@dead> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:58:28 -0600, Man_of_Mind
>><baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/26/2010 5:46 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>> On Nov 25, 12:40 pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>>>>>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Voices in your head again?
>>>>
>>>> What are you doing here, atheist? This holiday is for people of faith.
>>>
>>>Nope, that's entirely a "christian" myth..
>>>
>>>http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/590003/Thanksgiving-Day
>>>
>>>--It was adapted from pagan culture in Europe..
>>
>>Atheists do feel gratitude. We just don't feel it toward invisible
>>cosmic sky muffins.
Is that what your wife calls her pussy these days? I like it!
Phlip
Yet another term for a Divine Creator. See "flying bearded old man
with golden robes", or "Flying Spaghetti Monster", or "The Big Bang",
or "The Great Song", or...
All of them worthy of the same amount of gratitude. Like Frank Lloyd
Wright reputedly said, "I believe in God. I just spell it N, A, T, U,
R, E."
Phlip
che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Thanksgiving Day, annual national holiday in the United States and
> Canada celebrating the harvest and other BLESSINGS of the past year."
>
> Do you know what "blessings" are?
Just because "bless" is a transitive verb that doesn't mean there
_must_ be some identifiable thing on the subject side.
"The gods do not come kneeling, therefore, do not kneel!" --Jane
Roberts.
Frank
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:21:50 -0500, Frank<frankperi...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/25/2010 11:39 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>> On Nov 25, 11:02 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 07:14:13 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>>>>
>>>> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> ...is thanking God. The Pilgrims did it; we do it.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the Pilgrams would have starved to death if the native
>>>> Americans hadn't brought them food. Then they killed them.
>>>
>>> So, doodoo, are you celebrating Thanksgiving or not?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hear he's going over to Angelina Jolie's.
>
> Voices in your head again?
>
celebrating it because of what we did to the Indians. Perfect for host
for Poopy and Squirrely.
5829 Dead, 972 since 1/20/09
It doesn't matter how many fake accounts Steve the Cunt makes: he still
can't make himself matter.
--
"Experience declares that man is the only animal which
devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to... the general
prey of the rich on the poor." -- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward
Carrington, 1787
Walter Harding
> On 11/27/2010 3:20 AM, falters, farting was whimpering about:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>
>
> >>> Man_of_Mind restored the original text/context:
>
> >>>> On 11/25/2010 12:45 PM, Goober Ass (Mark Wieber) sniveled the usual:
>
> >>>>> The story of the Pilgrims begins in the early part of the seventeenth
> >>>>> century ... The Church of England under King James I was persecuting
> >>>>> anyone and everyone who did not recognize its absolute civil and
> >>>>> spiritual authority. Those who challenged ecclesiastical authority and
> >>>>> those who believed strongly in freedom of worship were hunted down,
> >>>>> imprisoned, and sometimes executed for their beliefs. A group of
> >>>>> separatists first fled to Holland and established a community.
>
> >>>> And here you right-wing extremists are trying to do the very same
> >>>> thing, spouting your colorfully stupid "great cull" and failed
> >>>> political ideologies like a fascist theocratic asshat..
>
> >>>> --Irony seems lost upon you, for some odd reason..
>
> >>> Yes, yes, we get it. You're a bigot who hates Christians.
>
> >> How long have you had this persecution complex?
>
> > Anytime I talk to a bigot who's comfortable with using the phrase
> > "theocratic asshat".
>
> That's "fascist theocratic asshat", you self-righteous right-wing retard..
And yet, viturually all actual fascists were Atheists.
> > You're obsesses with hatred for Christians
> No, I'm ridiculing your obsession with beliefs that don't have
> a factual basis in reality, nor will I have you trying to pretend
> your beliefs have the force of law..
You can make any excuse you want, you a petty bigot.
> --It's in the Constitution, in case you forgot..-
Please show where the phrase "seperation of church and state" occure
in the Constitution.
5829 Dead, 972 since 1/20/09
Nature's bounty.
5829 Dead, 972 since 1/20/09
Any kind of invisible, silent deity that people use to inflict their
prejudices on me.
Walter Harding
> Any kind of invisible, silent deity that people use to inflict their
> prejudices on me.
You claim to be free of the burden of faith, and yet you spend
virtually every waking moment hating anyone who disagrees with you.
What's up with that?
Walter Harding
Yes, yes, of course. The Pilgrims were talking about popcorn.
Man_of_Mind
Was adapted from pagan cultures in Europe, yet another reason
we left behind the stultifying control of a religious theocracy..
> Do you know what "blessings" are?
Sure do..
--Why do you want to quibble so much about it?
Steve
<rotflmao> It's so much fun knowing that fatass Jamieson is seeing me
everywhere he looks... I must haunt his dreams...
--
the only people who benefit from the communalistic economics that
leftists promote are the lazy, irresponible bottom feeders and
the power hungry community organizers.
Gunner Asch
>>>
>>> Atheists do feel gratitude. We just don't feel it toward invisible
>>> cosmic sky muffins.
>>
>> So who do you feel gratitude towards? Your Top after a good reaming?
>
>Ahh, another prepubescent epithet from a retarded right-wing loser..
>
>--Too much aerosol-borne lead does that to you gun-cunts..
And yet again more denial from MindlessMan..a gay far leftwing extremist
fringe kook.
Son..if you want to be a Bottom..if its in your nature..go with it.
Pretending to be straight only keeps you in the closet and fucks with
your head.
Admit to it. Revel in it, get on with your life.
They are not going to kill you for being gay. Only for being a Leftwing
extremist.
Gunner
--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,
Gray Ghost
@speranza.aioe.org:
> Too bad you're so lousy at guessing other people's motivations. Being a
> right winger means you attribute everything to being a "leftist", which
> couldn't be more wrong.
You're right. I also attribute it to an entitlement complex, basic laziness,
inability to earn above sustenance wage, criminality, greed, envy, revenge
etc.
Essentially the worst of man's sins. They just happen to be the philosophy of
the left.
--
Democrat donkey pontificating:
Americans only oppose Obama because they are racist....
Americans were against the stiumulus because they are uneducated....
Americans oppose socialism because they are greedy....
Americans are against Obamacare because they are stupid....
Americans are opposed to the Ground Zero mosque because they are bigots....
I just can't figure why Americans are opposed to us.
Maybe 'cuz we're racist, uneducated, greedy, stupid bigots.
Or maybe it's 'cuz you morons sound like Nazis talking about Jews in the
1930s.
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols
>>>
>>> Yeah, yeah, but what happened afterwards to him?
>>>
>>> "Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison and fined $200,000
>>> on May 27, 1998 for failing to warn authorities about the attack."
>>
>> You missed out on this..and be sure the authorities didnt:
>
>Yeah, the gun shows were unwitting accomplices too.. But
>there were several of your "militant-dilettante" leaders
>who were apprised of the plot, no "others, unknown" here..
So Walmart is an accomplice when someone comes in an buys and ax..then a
year later buries it in his neighbors head? Fascinating how you mind
works. Like a Yugo with a timing problem.
>
>>>>>> You will havent specified which crime Im committing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I have, your evasions and confused lies to the contrary..
>>>>
>>>> No..you have implied..
>>>
>>> As have you..
>>
>> Again..Cites?
>
>"With luck, you will be "culled""
Not a crime. Observation
>
>"He should be. I understand he is on the List."
Not a crime. Observation
>
>"Seems like there are a decent number of people who want you dead."
Not a crime and very obviously true.
>
>"You will still be killed. Shrug. My hands are clean..will be
> clean of any responsibility for your death."
Observation of fact.
>
>"As I said..its very much up to you how you want to handle
> what someone named the Great Cull that IS coming."
See above.
True indeed.
>
>>>> Radio, Internet, TV will
>>>> all cover the Great Cull with great detail. Hideous detail ....nasty
>>>> detail. The pathos of those hanging from street lamps by strands of
>>>> barbed wire..their tounges protruding from blackened faces...those
>>>> dumped on the street, obviously hidiously tortured and for hours and
>>>> days....you know..the bad things the People will be doing to those on
>>>> the Leftwing....shrug.
>>>
>>> Yup, and then you convict yourself still further..
>>>
>>>> Im currently observing the stages leading up to the Great Cull
>>>> and am remarking on what those observations indicate.
>>>
>>> Your "observations" are without a factual basis, or you are
>>> guilty of sedition, murder and will be convicted with your
>>> very own words.. How silly of you.. *>LOL!<*
>>
>> So you dont believe that there is any factual basis
>
>You've been blathering about it for year, prior to the stroke..
>
>> So which one of us is correct?
>
>*>LOL!<* It's self-evident, which is why it escapes your grasp..
>
>Example follows..
>
>> Hence your claims that my observations are flawed or non existant
>> is the key to your entire argument
>
>Nope, that would be a flawed premise on your behalf..
Your opinion is again noted with amusement.
>
>> And sadly..I have no pity for you and your plight.
>
>There is no "plight" such as you have imagined, Mark..
See previous response.
>
>>>>>> In 3 yrs..lets see if you still are able to post from inside the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> Easily, as your 'observation' of events yet to be will prove
>>>>> you wrong and guilty of sedition by complicity..
>>>>
>>>> Complicity? With whom? Those that ultimately murder you?
>>>
>>> Why do you have to ask, Mark Wieber?
>>
>> You are simply spewing half understood words
>
>No, that would again be yourself, Mark..
See previous response.
>
>Example follows..
>
>> Because you make grandious claims...
>
>No, that would again be yourself, Mark..
>
See previous response.
>>>> Ill bet good money that I dont know those people. I dont even
>>>> know who you are, where you live. Nor do I care to do so.
>>>
>>> Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>chuckling<*
>>
>> How so? Did I claim I would be the one killing you?
>
>"You on the other hand..will be mentally ill until you are
> murdered in the upcoming Great Cull."
>
Indeed. Observation of a truism.
>> I have no clue who you are, where you live and Id have to
>> leave the porch, the banjo and the radio to take care of you..
>
>Nice backpedal you've got there.. *>guffaw!<*
See previous
>
>>>>>> Keep beliving Im wrong and my observations are wrong!
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't a matter of 'belief' on my part, Mark. You've
>>>>> already evidenced how you look forward to an armed revolt
>>>>> and the deliberate acts of mass-murdering those who do not
>>>>> blindly accept your narrow-minded political beliefs..
>>>>
>>>> Of course I do!! Its long over due. Notice I snipped out "narrow
>>>> minded"
>>>
>>> Notice I quoted it back for you to deny yet again?
>>
>> Huh?
>
>Short attention span, Mark?
When dealing with the seriously mentally ill..sometimes getting a grasp
on what you are trying to say..is difficult.
>
>>>>>> I do admit however..that I will be overjoyed in hearing/seeing
>>>>>> evidence of your butchery. As will most normal people who have
>>>>>> dealt with you over the years on Usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering I've out-lived most of "normal people" who have
>>>>> espoused violence, insurrection and militia movements to that
>>>>> end, I remain convinced that you are simply trying to bolster
>>>>> your sad self-image by blustering with your egotorials..
>>>>
>>>> Time will tell.
>>>
>>> Yup, and Time is telling on YOU now..
>>
>> Of course it is. Im now 57, and have been rode hard and put away wet
>
>Yes, but your intentional ignorance has no similar excuse..
Your opinion is again noted with amusement.
>
>>>> Of course..we havent had a "second American Revolution"
>>>
>>> Nor will we, owing the lack of spine in you 'militant-dilettantes'..
>>
>> Please hold that thought. <VBG> I hope they, whoever it is..
>
>Yeah, you keep on making your militant-dilettante noises..
>
>It will be your undoing..
See above response.
>
>>>>> --Such will be your own doom, as I 'observe' it..
>>>>
>>>> Your opinion
>>>
>>> No, my "observations"..
>>
>> Ok. Ill grant you that.
>
>Whatever, little militant-dilettante..
>
See above response.
>>>> Shrug. In 3 yrs..we may or may not be able to chat about it.
>>>
>>> Nice backpedal you've got there, Mark..
>>>
>>>> Frankly..I rather doubt you will be around
>>>
>>> Yeah, but if you're wrong..
>>>
>>> --It's been nice chatting with you..
>>
>> Its not been nice chatting with you.
>
>Too bad, now are you going to go run away and hide behind
>your kill-file filter and pretend your moral high ground
>with your usual self-righteous indignation?
See above response.
>
>--Gads, you're really full of yourself. Check your ego diaper yet?
No..but I checked my grand kids diaper and found a leftwinger..several
of them in fact.
Nasty...brrrrrr
Gunner Asch
<baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Odd..your momma didnt think I was impotent.<VBG>
>
>Odd, you have fallen back on a prepubescent insult that has nothing
>to do with reality. Would you like to try again, you impotent idiot?
Your just pissed off that I used the insult first.
>
>>> --And Happy Thanksgiving, Mark..
>>
>> Thanksgiving was yesterday, you buffoonish fuctard.
>
>*>LOL!<* So, you're an impotent right-wing coward that has
>nothing more than adolescent epithets and threats to make
>you feel better about your immaturity and insecurities..
>
And its obvious that you are a mentally ill Leftard who doesnt have a
clue what day of the week he is living in.
Perhaps too much, or too little drugs?
>--Have a nice holiday weekend, Mark..
I will indeed.