Anything survival related in this newsgripe?
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Harry
greylock
>Just curious.
It comes and it goes.
Prior to the latest election in the US has been a particularly bad
time.
But there is an occasional tidbit of useful information.
Too_Many_Tools
We are discussing the decline and fall of the Republican Party.
They are on life support and some members need CPR ASAP.
You wanna do Gunner?
Laugh...laugh...laugh...
TMT
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Just curious.
Strabo
> On 10 Nov 2006 18:47:03 -0800, hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just curious.
>
> While they were in no way controversial, I was surprised that none of
> them got any comment from anyone.
>
I think surviving the political and pseudo-legal onslaught
has everyone's attention. However I caught several reminders
to stock up and check generators. I ran mine last week.
Seems to be fine but redundancy never hurts. I also keep propane
bottles for an indoor heater.
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Jim
political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
worry about for the time being. If for instance people are desperately
looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry. Of course
when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>
Jim Koch, Cleveland
Strabo
For the east coast there hasn't been much to write home
about this past year. The west has had fire related problems
though little is said about it in the NGs.
The hurricane season was a bust. For some reason bird
flu has not materialized as forecasted. The electrical
power companies have taken public criticism to heart and
improved their act.
But then many of the posters are not native to misc.
survivalism and likely give preparation little thought.
north
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163213222.9...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Just curious.
>
Soon....
I just bought a new Crank-up LED lantern but haven't had much time to play
with it. It's really cool, 10 LED, dynamo powered. Not as bright by far than
a gasoline, or even old style electric camp lantern, however a good bit
brighter than a hurricane lantern or candle. (I'm not in the same room as
the lantern, and it's made by a not well known company, so I forget the
name, make and model off the top of my head).
I'm also building an 8'X12' bunk house on the lower part of my land (in the
area I call my "camp site") for guests. It's going to simply be a small
single room cabin, with two bunks, a place to sit and a small kitchen (set
up sorta like an RV) A few yards away, I'm also buildig a small 'outhouse'
however instead of a hole in the ground, it will just have a camp chemical
toilet.
I'm taking pics as I go on this project and will share them and make all
plans, and such avalible for free.
I wasn't planning on posting any of this stuff until I finished.
n.
north
"Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
news:1163229...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Jim wrote:
>> This group is a survivalism barometer. If nearly everyone is posting
>> political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
>> worry about for the time being. If for instance people are desperately
>> looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
>> dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry. Of course
>> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>> Jim Koch, Cleveland
>>
>
> For the east coast there hasn't been much to write home
> about this past year. The west has had fire related problems
> though little is said about it in the NGs.
>
> The hurricane season was a bust.
The hurricane season helped me out bigtime this year. I'm currently building
a new shop and a small bunk house here on my land. The talking heads were
saying that this year was going to be bad and this caused the uilding
materials industery to stock up. Now that the season petered out without any
damage as predicted, the price of lumber and other materials is at prices we
haven't seen in years. I'm saving a couple of thousand dollar compared to
what these projects would have costed me just a year ago.
n.
RadicalModerate
> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
A laptop computer doesn't consume that much power; what I think would more
likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
FidoNet, anybody? :)
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: address IS Valid.
Lawrence Glickman
(RadicalModerate) wrote:
>Jim <alc...@en.com> wrote:
>> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>
>A laptop computer doesn't consume that much power; what I think would more
>likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
>Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
>
>FidoNet, anybody? :)
A day doesn't go by when I am not tweaking my survival gear to make
things better, more efficient, more reliable. This week's project has
been to get my cell phone to work of every power source you can think
of, from car batteries to AA cells.
I consider the cell phone so important, I'VE DROPPED MY LANDLINE and
put the entire family on cell phones.
Lg
Robert Sturgeon
In the case of a disaster, your cell phones are less likely
to work than the landlines -- because of overloaded cell
towers. You need both. And you need a long distance
coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
THROUGH a long distance contact. Another Good Idea is to
have some two-way radios capable of transmitting over the
distances you have. GMRS can go several miles under most
conditions. Ham radios are even better, but there are
licensing issues. On the other hand, I suppose you could
buy them, figure out how to use them, and save them for
"then." Is anyone going to be chasing down illegal
transmissions while TSHTF?
--
Robert Sturgeon
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
Robert Sturgeon
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>Just curious.
Start a thread -- PLEASE!!!
Robert Sturgeon
>This group is a survivalism barometer. If nearly everyone is posting
>political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
>worry about for the time being.
I'm afraid I must disagree. One threat to our safety is the
dissolution of the Republic -- possibly through civil war.
Reading all the extreme hatred from the jackasses is a
reminder of how close we may be to that. The U.S. saw the
same kind of political extremism during the 1850s, and we
know how that turned out.
> If for instance people are desperately
>looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
>dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry. Of course
>when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
>computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
You really should be taking care of stuff like that BEFORE
the SHTF.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Aw, c'mon!
Spent the day at the range today. It started out about 55F in light
rain, rained heavily while the temp dropped about 10F.
The military woodland poncho kept my upper body dry, but got in the way
of bringing the firearm to my shoulder. Maybe a rain jacket would have
been better.
Any opinions on rain gear?
One of the firearms was my son's ruger 10/22.
I replaced the stock sights back in the spring with Williams aperature
rear sight and Williams front "firesights." I really didn't like them.
Hard to zero because there are no clicks... you unloosen the set
screw, and there is so much slip and slop that you can't make the
changes you want. And the aperature hole was just way too big. Off
they came.
I ordered a set of "Tech-Sights" from www.techsights.com
They are AR15, A-1 styled sights. The rear sight handles windage, and
the front sight adjusts for elevation. Yep, you've got to use the tip
of a FMJ to dial in the changes, just like the old A-1. They are
excellent!!! I understand that you can change out the aperature and
front post with aftermarket items, but haven't actually done so.
Anyway, I'm glad I wore my rubber-bottomed boots instead of leather.
My feet stayed dry and I stayed happy. My poncho and rubber bottomed
boots stay in the back of my pickup truck so they're always handy.
How did you spend the day?
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
How come nobody cares about elections in Canada and the other Canada,
GREAT Britian?
Or maybe they don't hold free elections???
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> You bet!!
>
> We are discussing the decline and fall of the Republican Party.
>
> They are on life support and some members need CPR ASAP.
>
> You wanna do Gunner?
>
> Laugh...laugh...laugh...
>
> TMT
And this is somehow good for America?
Get back to me in four years.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Winston Smith wrote:
> On 10 Nov 2006 18:47:03 -0800, hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Just curious.
>
> While they were in no way controversial, I was surprised that none of
> them got any comment from anyone.
Hey, Winnie, I'll check on that. Didn't mean to ignore you. There's
just so much off-topic rifleman, cliff, and too little brainstem
postings that everything else gets shoved to the bottom on Google.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Strabo wrote:
> Winston Smith wrote:
> > On 10 Nov 2006 18:47:03 -0800, hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> Just curious.
> >
> > I've put up a few things in the last week I thought were on topic.
> > While they were in no way controversial, I was surprised that none of
> > them got any comment from anyone.
> >
> I think surviving the political and pseudo-legal onslaught
> has everyone's attention.
Hopefully they'll be so focused on impeaching Bush that they'll forget
about gun rights...
> However I caught several reminders
> to stock up and check generators. I ran mine last week.
> Seems to be fine but redundancy never hurts. I also keep propane
> bottles for an indoor heater.
Good point! I'm down to about a dozen 1lb bottles and a full 20lb
tank.
I've got 12 gallons of kerosene for the heater.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Jim wrote:
> This group is a survivalism barometer. If nearly everyone is posting
> political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
> worry about for the time being.
The anti-american postings are at an all-time high.
I wonder if Germany will continue with the Rumsfeld assassination if we
start closing military installations over there?
> If for instance people are desperately
> looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
> dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry.
Then we're home free.
> Of course
> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
> >
> Jim Koch, Cleveland
Thanks, bb
bb
Strabo wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > This group is a survivalism barometer. If nearly everyone is posting
> > political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
> > worry about for the time being. If for instance people are desperately
> > looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
> > dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry. Of course
> > when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
> > computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
> > Jim Koch, Cleveland
> >
>
> For the east coast there hasn't been much to write home
> about this past year. The west has had fire related problems
> though little is said about it in the NGs.
The GW (global warming) kooks have mentioned drought in marginal and,
of all things, desert regions in the USA. Them's some smart folks.
> The hurricane season was a bust.
Greg Holland must feel kinda stoopid.
> For some reason bird
> flu has not materialized as forecasted.
Hai-chooo!
> The electrical
> power companies have taken public criticism to heart and
> improved their act.
They're pissing off the tree lovers. They're finally clearing the
right-of-ways and the kooks don't like it. They prefer people to
freeze to death when the ice covered trees down the power lines.
> But then many of the posters are not native to misc.
> survivalism and likely give preparation little thought.
As long as it pushes the liberal agenda forward...
bb
Robert Sturgeon wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:23:32 -0600, Lawrence Glickman
> <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC), nosp...@mytrashmail.com
> >(RadicalModerate) wrote:
> >
> >>Jim <alc...@en.com> wrote:
> >>> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
> >>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
> >>
> >>A laptop computer doesn't consume that much power; what I think would more
> >>likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
> >>Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
> >>
> >>FidoNet, anybody? :)
> >
> >A day doesn't go by when I am not tweaking my survival gear to make
> >things better, more efficient, more reliable. This week's project has
> >been to get my cell phone to work of every power source you can think
> >of, from car batteries to AA cells.
> >
> >I consider the cell phone so important, I'VE DROPPED MY LANDLINE and
> >put the entire family on cell phones.
>
> In the case of a disaster, your cell phones are less likely
> to work than the landlines -- because of overloaded cell
> towers.
Depends on whether this is a personal emergency, or a widespread
emergency.
I understand that in a widescale emergency, that should you get
through, do not hang up...
you won't be able to get through again. Of course, you're screwing
everyone else who needs to get through.
> You need both. And you need a long distance
> coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
> able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
> disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
> THROUGH a long distance contact.
Explain, please,
> Another Good Idea is to
> have some two-way radios capable of transmitting over the
> distances you have. GMRS can go several miles under most
> conditions.
On FRS, the "emergency channel" is one (1). Consider it "neighborhood"
comms.
> Ham radios are even better, but there are
> licensing issues.
Not since they dropped the code in 1991. Anyone who doesn't get a
Technician license is severly handicappng themselves.
> On the other hand, I suppose you could
> buy them, figure out how to use them, and save them for
> "then." Is anyone going to be chasing down illegal
> transmissions while TSHTF?
One guy, Riley. He's it for all of America.
> Robert Sturgeon
> Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
And ammunition and beef jerkey.
bb
RadicalModerate wrote:
> Jim <alc...@en.com> wrote:
> > when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
> > computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>
> A laptop computer doesn't consume that much power; what I think would more
> likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
> Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
>
> FidoNet, anybody? :)
Can that be done?
bb
north wrote:
> <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163213222.9...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > Just curious.
>
> Soon....
>
> I just bought a new Crank-up LED lantern but haven't had much time to play
> with it. It's really cool, 10 LED, dynamo powered. Not as bright by far than
> a gasoline, or even old style electric camp lantern, however a good bit
> brighter than a hurricane lantern or candle. (I'm not in the same room as
> the lantern, and it's made by a not well known company, so I forget the
> name, make and model off the top of my head).
Hey, Norte', I'm looking forward to a report on a workout of that
lamp...
> I'm also building an 8'X12' bunk house on the lower part of my land (in the
> area I call my "camp site") for guests. It's going to simply be a small
> single room cabin, with two bunks, a place to sit and a small kitchen (set
> up sorta like an RV) A few yards away, I'm also buildig a small 'outhouse'
> however instead of a hole in the ground, it will just have a camp chemical
> toilet.
> I'm taking pics as I go on this project and will share them and make all
> plans, and such avalible for free.
You da man! A friend of mine who pulled a number of tours in the
Antarctic told me they used plastic bags to crap in, tied them off and
slung them into a bulldozed ice cavern.
> I wasn't planning on posting any of this stuff until I finished.
>
> n.
Looking forward to it.
FWIW, I think a small 8x12 bunkhouse could be built of block, set in
the ground at least 3ft, and earth bermed to make it a little more
comfortable, and bulletproof.
bb
Robert Sturgeon wrote:
> On 10 Nov 2006 18:47:03 -0800,
> hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Just curious.
>
> Start a thread -- PLEASE!!!
Let's improvise. Just post it here!!!
My first reply covered the Army poncho, rubber bottomed boots, and
Tech-Sights for the ruger 10/22 (they also have a sight for the SKS).
the_blogologist
north
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163282284.1...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Survivalists tend to be people who are in control of their lives. Who tend
to want to take charge of their own drum, do for themselves, and do not want
hand-outs from Government and especially intrusion, high taxes and bullshit
laws.
It takes balls to be a survivalist, and in socialist hell holes such as the
UK, most of the people are spineless, nutless liberals who put up with and
even ask for their tyrannical socialist Governments. People who cannot think
for themselves, do for themselves and depend on Government for their daily
bread tend to push for big nanny Government.., and topics such as
survivalism go against the lifestyle of the sleep and cattle.
IOWs the reason that American politics get discussed and Brit or kanook are
not is because their are by far more Americans on survival message board
then there are Brits and Kanooks.
I don't really know why there aren't that many kanooks posting to MS,
perhaps it's because there are so many people in Canada without internet
(internet in Canada tends to be in the larger cities and there aren't a lot
of survivalists or homesteaders in the large cities). In the UK, most of the
people are nutless sleep, keep in mind that the UK did away with free
speech, so the ones who are into survivalism are most likely to chicken shit
to post fearing their big nanny Governments speech cops, and the rest of the
Brits are just socialist pussies who only survive from the hand-outs given
to them by their nanny state.
In the U.S. only slightly less then half (most likely even less then 30%) of
the people are to smug to be self dependent and want a big nanny Government
to take care of them and control their lives. The rest (a small majority)
are hard working, self reliant, and want a small Government that stays the
fuck out of their lives. And that's why you have far more Americans posting
to MS, and that is also why American politics get discussed far more than UK
and kanook politics.
n.
Robert Sturgeon
wrote:
(snips)
>> You need both. And you need a long distance
>> coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
>> able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
>> disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
>> THROUGH a long distance contact.
>
>Explain, please,
OK, assume you have two people in a local area affected by
some sort of disaster who desperately need to contact each
other. They can't, because both the local landline circuits
and the cell towers are maxed out. They CAN communicate
with each other by communicating with a third party (using
landlines) who is out-of-state. I don't know enough about
the telephone system to understand WHY the long distance
service might still be available. The "experts" assure us
that is the case.
(rest snipped)
--
Robert Sturgeon
Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
Robert Sturgeon
wrote:
(snips)
>> How long does it take to slip from 'disagree with the learned
>> gentleman' to 'that slime is stupid' to 'THAT group is dangerous' to
>> 'needs to be watched' to 'needs to be controlled' to 'deserves to die'
>> to 'has to be killed for the good of the nation'. How many times has
>> it already happened?
>
>I'm sure that you're directing that question to
>"Too-Many-Sniffs-of-Glue."
A truly hopeless case.
>> Any group will do as a scape goat and any reason will do to prove that
>> they are evil and the enemy. Such things are often a useful political
>> diversion to take the heat off real issues.
>
>Hey, Bush tried to deal with Social Security...
>
>Now the snake has to consume the baby boom generation. Best of Luck.
It can't be done. Those entitlements will not be paid.
That which cannot be done will not be done. Sorry, folks,
but it just ain't gonna happen.
(rest snipped)
Terryc
> How come nobody cares about elections in Canada and the other Canada,
> GREAT Britian?
they do, but Canuck and POMs have better internet education and take
their discussions to the correct usenet area.
Gunner
>
>Harry wrote:
>> hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Just curious.
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> With your help - no . . .
>>
>> Truly
>
>Aw, c'mon!
>
>Spent the day at the range today. It started out about 55F in light
>rain, rained heavily while the temp dropped about 10F.
>
>The military woodland poncho kept my upper body dry, but got in the way
>of bringing the firearm to my shoulder. Maybe a rain jacket would have
>been better.
>
>Any opinions on rain gear?
Anything but a ponch. Ponchos were designed to keep the wearer and his
pack somewhat dry, as well as serving as half a shelter. Not to fight
in.
Any..any..any rain suit is better than a poncho. Prices run from a few
dollars for a disposable, to many thousands of dollars for an offshore
suit.
Keep in mind..ventilation. Rainsuits by definition are designed to be
non porous..which means it keeps the water out..and the heat and
humitity in. Goretx goes a long way to solving this..but its still not a
perfect solution. A well designed rainsuit with plenty of vents helps a
lot. As long as you are verticle. When horizontal..they often act as
funnels to direct the water inwards.
>
>One of the firearms was my son's ruger 10/22.
>
>I replaced the stock sights back in the spring with Williams aperature
>rear sight and Williams front "firesights." I really didn't like them.
> Hard to zero because there are no clicks... you unloosen the set
>screw, and there is so much slip and slop that you can't make the
>changes you want. And the aperature hole was just way too big. Off
>they came.
When adjusting non click rear sights..move the screws only a fraction of
a turn, then push with the opposite screw till it stops. Repeat as
necessary.
Firesights are marvelous for what they were designed for. Hunting. NOT
target shooting. A wide apeture is just as accurate as a small one, if
you know how to shoot peeps, and hold your tongue in the proper corner
of your mouth. Small peeps are better for punching paper in GOOD
light..but suck badly when its dim. Hence wider aps and Ghost Rings are
used for action shooting, not paper punching.
>
>I ordered a set of "Tech-Sights" from www.techsights.com
>
>They are AR15, A-1 styled sights. The rear sight handles windage, and
>the front sight adjusts for elevation. Yep, you've got to use the tip
>of a FMJ to dial in the changes, just like the old A-1. They are
>excellent!!! I understand that you can change out the aperature and
>front post with aftermarket items, but haven't actually done so.
>
>Anyway, I'm glad I wore my rubber-bottomed boots instead of leather.
>My feet stayed dry and I stayed happy. My poncho and rubber bottomed
>boots stay in the back of my pickup truck so they're always handy.
>
>How did you spend the day?
Running my forklift around the property..in the rain. While wearing a
West Marine light duty rain suit. Then eating beef stroganoff and apple
cinnimon cheese cake. Thats what I always ask for on my birthday.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
Gunner
Hummm..that reminds me. I only have (3) 10 gallon bottles of propane for
the forklift, with two empty and I think Ive got a couple empty 5 gallon
ones out of the 8 or so I keep on hand. Most of course are the old style
valves, so cant be refilled anylonger. Unless you have some 10 gallon
forklift bottles and the proper adapter hose....
>
>I've got 12 gallons of kerosene for the heater.
I think Im down to 20 gallons of #2 diesel, which I burn in the heaters
rather than Kero
Gunner
Of course. Even Ham Radio can serve as a communication media via Packet
Radio.
north
"Gunner" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Cheesecake ? Didn't you just have a heart attack ?
I'm currently having serious trouble with my gullbladder and cheesecake is
out of the question for me.
n.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Happy Birthday.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
That's false on two counts.
1. They don't have better "internet education."
2. They don't take their discussions to a more correct usenet area.
How do I know this???
The Brits constantly start new threads right here on MS discussing
American politics. Its as if they have no politics of their own.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Maybe a couple of hams who wade into the next Katrina-type disaster can
give us a check on that. Intuitively, it sounds wrong... but anything
is worth a try.
Robert Sturgeon
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Robert Sturgeon wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2006 15:07:07 -0800, "bb" <billy...@juno.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> (snips)
>>
>> >> You need both. And you need a long distance
>> >> coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
>> >> able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
>> >> disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
>> >> THROUGH a long distance contact.
>> >
>> >Explain, please,
>>
>> OK, assume you have two people in a local area affected by
>> some sort of disaster who desperately need to contact each
>> other. They can't, because both the local landline circuits
>> and the cell towers are maxed out. They CAN communicate
>> with each other by communicating with a third party (using
>> landlines) who is out-of-state. I don't know enough about
>> the telephone system to understand WHY the long distance
>> service might still be available. The "experts" assure us
>> that is the case.
>Maybe a couple of hams who wade into the next Katrina-type disaster can
>give us a check on that. Intuitively, it sounds wrong... but anything
>is worth a try.
You mean the part about it being easier to get a long
distance line than to get a local line? Yes, that seems
wrong to me too, but that's what those "experts" say.
Gunner
No. I had 7 plugged arteries, requireing a roto rooter and a stent. My
cholesterol was in the perfect range, my blood pressure was high
normal. It appears that angina tends to run in the family as Ive been
discovering with some research on the family tree.
My big issues is that Im a heavy smoker (no history of lung cancer in
the family..all heavy smokers) and as a traveling service tech..my diet
sucks, being largely composed of smokes, diet Mt. Dew and whatever I can
snarf at a fast food joint. Ive since taken to keeping Slim Fast High
Protein in the truck instead of grabbing a Heart Attack in a sack at the
7-11, and eating at the Subway. Plus a rigorus regime of vitamins and so
forth. At 6'2", 210 lbs, and can still look down and see my belt
buckle..not bad for a 53yr old. Though I tried a fast rep of 25 pull
ups and started getting some chest pressure at 20, yesterday. I cant do
more than about 5 one handed pull ups anymore..sigh..old age is creeping
up.
>
>I'm currently having serious trouble with my gullbladder and cheesecake is
>out of the question for me.
>
>n.
>
I can eat nearly anything. I LOVE cheesecake, but only get it a couple
times a year, if Im lucky.
Gunner
<G>
Happy Veterans Day
Strabo
> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
> news:1163229...@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> Jim wrote:
>>> This group is a survivalism barometer. If nearly everyone is posting
>>> political tirades and conspiracy theories, then you have nothing to
>>> worry about for the time being. If for instance people are desperately
>>> looking for oxygen concentrators, viral proof masks, and advice on
>>> dosages of anti-influenza drugs, then you need to worry. Of course
>>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>>>
>> For the east coast there hasn't been much to write home
>> about this past year. The west has had fire related problems
>> though little is said about it in the NGs.
>>
>
> a new shop and a small bunk house here on my land. The talking heads were
> saying that this year was going to be bad and this caused the uilding
> materials industery to stock up. Now that the season petered out without any
> damage as predicted, the price of lumber and other materials is at prices we
> haven't seen in years. I'm saving a couple of thousand dollar compared to
> what these projects would have costed me just a year ago.
>
Good idea! I have a few wood related projects that need doing.
>
> n.
>
>
>
>> For some reason bird
>> flu has not materialized as forecasted. The electrical
>> power companies have taken public criticism to heart and
>> improved their act.
>>
>> But then many of the posters are not native to misc.
>> survivalism and likely give preparation little thought.
>>
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Strabo
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC), nosp...@mytrashmail.com
> (RadicalModerate) wrote:
>
>> Jim <alc...@en.com> wrote:
>>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>> likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
>> Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
>>
>> FidoNet, anybody? :)
>
> things better, more efficient, more reliable. This week's project has
> been to get my cell phone to work of every power source you can think
> of, from car batteries to AA cells.
>
> I consider the cell phone so important, I'VE DROPPED MY LANDLINE and
> put the entire family on cell phones.
>
>
> Lg
Strabo
> On 11 Nov 2006 15:07:07 -0800, "bb" <billy...@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> (snips)
>
>>> You need both. And you need a long distance
>>> coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
>>> able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
>>> disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
>>> THROUGH a long distance contact.
>> Explain, please,
>
> OK, assume you have two people in a local area affected by
> some sort of disaster who desperately need to contact each
> other. They can't, because both the local landline circuits
> and the cell towers are maxed out. They CAN communicate
> with each other by communicating with a third party (using
> landlines) who is out-of-state. I don't know enough about
> the telephone system to understand WHY the long distance
> service might still be available. The "experts" assure us
> that is the case.
>
There are two types of busy signals, one for the individual phone
should it be off-hook and second is an overloaded trunk line.
Interstate calls, coming and going, are typically routed along
different physical paths. The point of convergence is the
resident's branch office network.
Comms via a third out-of-state party will ordinarily work, though
a local overload could still give you a busy signal.
Those that care really should invest more time and money in
getting radios.
> (rest snipped)
>
> --
> Robert Sturgeon
> Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
> http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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Strabo
world.
Strabo
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:23:32 -0600, Lawrence Glickman
>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:01:41 +0000 (UTC), nosp...@mytrashmail.com
>> (RadicalModerate) wrote:
>>
>>> Jim <alc...@en.com> wrote:
>>>> when the shit really hits the fan, the internet will be down and your
>>>> computer may not work due to a lack of electricity.
>>> A laptop computer doesn't consume that much power; what I think would more
>>> likely happen if TSRHTF, the Government would order any parts of the
>>> Internet it couldn't control the content of shut down.
>>>
>>> FidoNet, anybody? :)
>> A day doesn't go by when I am not tweaking my survival gear to make
>> things better, more efficient, more reliable. This week's project has
>> been to get my cell phone to work of every power source you can think
>> of, from car batteries to AA cells.
>>
>> I consider the cell phone so important, I'VE DROPPED MY LANDLINE and
>> put the entire family on cell phones.
>
> to work than the landlines -- because of overloaded cell
> coordinator. For some reason, you are more likely to be
> able to make a long distance call than a local call during a
> disaster. So you and yours need to be able to communicate
> THROUGH a long distance contact.
>
For best results the land line should be analog.
>
General cellular phone service can suffer from too many connections,
antenna failure, downed lines from a pickup tower, equipment failure
at a pickup tower or a general power outage.
The older wire service is not nearly as vulnerable and it is
still backed up by batteries.
>
> Another Good Idea is to
> have some two-way radios capable of transmitting over the
> distances you have. GMRS can go several miles under most
> conditions. Ham radios are even better, but there are
> licensing issues. On the other hand, I suppose you could
> buy them, figure out how to use them, and save them for
> "then." Is anyone going to be chasing down illegal
> transmissions while TSHTF?
>
If the radio traffic situation becomes intolerable, local Hams will
resort to policing.
Remember too that Hams maintain emergency nets around the country.
That might be the appropriate way to get info in an emergency.
>
> --
> Robert Sturgeon
> Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
> http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Strabo wrote:
> hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Terryc wrote:
> >> hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> How come nobody cares about elections in Canada and the other Canada,
> >>> GREAT Britian?
> >> they do, but Canuck and POMs have better internet education and take
> >> their discussions to the correct usenet area.
> >
> > That's false on two counts.
> >
> > 1. They don't have better "internet education."
> >
> > 2. They don't take their discussions to a more correct usenet area.
> >
> > How do I know this???
> >
> > The Brits constantly start new threads right here on MS discussing
> > American politics. Its as if they have no politics of their own.
> >
> American politics, state and federal, directly influence the entire
> world.
Too bad for them. It still makes Terryc wrong.
north
>>>
>>> The hurricane season was a bust.
>>
>> The hurricane season helped me out bigtime this year. I'm currently
>> building a new shop and a small bunk house here on my land. The talking
>> heads were saying that this year was going to be bad and this caused the
>> uilding materials industery to stock up. Now that the season petered out
>> without any damage as predicted, the price of lumber and other materials
>> is at prices we haven't seen in years. I'm saving a couple of thousand
>> dollar compared to what these projects would have costed me just a year
>> ago.
> >
> Good idea! I have a few wood related projects that need doing.
For example: 4'X8' sheets of 7/16th OSB yesterday was $6.69 per sheet
compared to $16.99 per sheet just a year ago (At lowes BTW).
n.
Terryc
> American politics, state and federal, directly influence the entire
> world.
roflmpo. definitely not in the way you think.
roll on terrorists.
basketweaver for the deplorables
short of miraculous if you were able to do even three.
> I cant do
> more than about 5 one handed pull ups anymore..sigh..old age is creeping
> up.
lying gasbag.
>> I'm currently having serious trouble with my gullbladder and cheesecake is
>> out of the question for me.
>>
>> n.
>>
> I can eat nearly anything. I LOVE cheesecake, but only get it a couple
> times a year, if Im lucky.
> "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
> Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
> off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
> them self determination under "play nice" rules.
>
> Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
> for torturing the cat." Gunner
imminent-heart-attack clown.
--
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thought" backhoe "the list" cull 264mph "3/5/8 years street cop"
swingers "Libs" leftists
Gunner Asch
<never...@never.trump.now> wrote:
>
>You did not do 20 pull-ups on November 11, 2006. It would be little
>short of miraculous if you were able to do even three.
>
>> I cant do
>> more than about 5 one handed pull ups anymore..sigh..old age is creeping
>> up.
>
>You have never been able to do even a single one-handed pull-up, you
>lying gasbag
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basketweaver for the deplorables
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:20:20 -0700, basketweaver for the deplorables
> <never...@never.trump.now> wrote:
>
>>
>> You did not do 20 pull-ups on November 11, 2006. It would be little
>> short of miraculous if you were able to do even three.
>>
>>> I cant do
>>> more than about 5 one handed pull ups anymore..sigh..old age is creeping
>>> up.
>>
>> You have never been able to do even a single one-handed pull-up, you
>> lying gasbag
>
>
> Cites?
pathetic and decrepit physique you had at the time of your bypass, which
was only a couple of years after you claimed to be able to do 25
pull-ups as well as five one-handed pull-ups. *That's* the "cite", you
dumb weak diseased cunt. There's no way you *ever* had the physique to
do it.
You'd have a video of it in the massive Wieber Movie Vault on Picasa if
you ever could have done it. You don't have one - you never did it.
You never did even a single one-handed pull-up at any age, let alone
five at age 53 with a coronary bypass just over the horizon. Cut the
shit, you dumb diseased cunt.
No "list"; no "cull"; no "one-handed pull-ups." It's all settled.
Gunner Asch
<never...@never.trump.now> wrote:
>>>
>>> You have never been able to do even a single one-handed pull-up, you
>>> lying gasbag
>>
>>
>> Cites?
>
>Ha ha ha ha ha! You posted that picture showing just what a shitty
>pathetic and decrepit physique you had at the time of your bypass, which
>was only a couple of years after you claimed to be able to do 25
>pull-ups as well as five one-handed pull-ups. *That's* the "cite", you
>dumb weak diseased cunt. There's no way you *ever* had the physique to
>do it.
my chest split open, my sternum split in half and jacked open, then
having my arteries rearrainged and my leg split open from ankle to
crotch so they could harvest an artery? Those photos?
The ones where I was standing on my own two feet, with 172 staples
holding everything together, and was puffed up like a poison pup from
the various bits of the operation? Those pictures? The ones taken
within 8 hours of being split like a trout?
These photos?
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104042282269066802602/album/AF1QipMWHvl9LhICpcO02BX0_pe2B3_vX5DSI027A5-m
Or these photos?
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104042282269066802602/album/AF1QipPI51t3y8Q_t3m85XXcnK82h0caJthU5qN_i6Ve
Snerk!
You little puffy shitbird....snicker...you dont know which way to shit
do you?
ROFLMAO!!!
basketweaver for the deplorables
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:11:37 -0700, basketweaver for the deplorables
> <never...@never.trump.now> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You have never been able to do even a single one-handed pull-up, you
>>>> lying gasbag
>>>
>>>
>>> Cites?
>>
>> Ha ha ha ha ha! You posted that picture showing just what a shitty
>> pathetic and decrepit physique you had at the time of your bypass, which
>> was only a couple of years after you claimed to be able to do 25
>> pull-ups as well as five one-handed pull-ups. *That's* the "cite", you
>> dumb weak diseased cunt. There's no way you *ever* had the physique to
>> do it.
>
> You mean the photo of me standing and moving within 8 hours of having
> my chest split open, my sternum split in half and jacked open, then
> having my arteries rearrainged and my leg split open from ankle to
> crotch so they could harvest an artery? Those photos?
of doing any pull-ups a year or two earlier in 2006, when you claimed to
be able to do 25 two-handed and five one-handed.
You couldn't do *any* in 2006. This is settled.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Have any recipes for cooking dogs?
I know you can take any Chinese restaurant menu and substitute chicken
with cat....
Allah's Cock Bar
>
>
> Have any recipes for cooking dogs?
http://www.petguide.com/health/dog/beef-and-rice-stir-fry-dog-food-recipe/
Allah's Cock Bar
> You couldn't do *any* in 2006. This is settled.
Allah's Cock Bar
Allah's Cock Bar
> No "list"; no "cull";
Yes...you're done, really.
Allah's Cock Bar
> Think of it as you just running your wheezy mouth, you
> imminent-heart-attack clown.
>
>
> --
basketweaver for the deplorables
On 9/23/2016 12:57 PM, spammy - impotent squat-to-piss HIV+ cocksucker -
lied:
>> You couldn't do *any* in 2006. This is settled.
>
> YOU are a dead man walking.
basketweaver for the deplorables
lied:
basketweaver for the deplorables
lied:
>> No "list"; no "cull";
>
> Yes...you're done, really.
fuck can't do anything to make that happen, spammy. You admit it.
basketweaver for the deplorables
lied:
I think of that every time I see your lame bullshit in Usenet, spammy.
*Your* rotten melon skull, spammy, is the one that is going to make
impact with the shovel.
Allah's Cock Bar
>>> You couldn't do *any* in 2006. This is settled.
>>
>> YOU are a dead man walking.
>
> No,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKiiyI2T04s
Allah's Cock Bar
> *Your* rotten melon skul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKiiyI2T04s
Allah's Cock Bar
>> Yes...you're done, really.
>
> No,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKiiyI2T04s
Allah's Cock Bar
Allah's Cock Bar
>> Think of the shovel impacting your head
>
> I think of that
Me 2!
Allah's Cock Bar
>> Think of the shovel impacting your head
>
> I think of that
Me 2!
Allah's Cock Bar
>> Yes...you're done, really.
>
> No
Yes.
Allah's Cock Bar
Sang Froid
> M
Nobody gives a shit about you, you feeble troll. NOBODY!
Now wank some more, you tedious little coward!
Dance some more for me, spammie-slut!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVZMxz3vqw
Gonna man up some day, you disgusting cowardly traitor?
Do you ever have anything of interest, or substance, to say?
Shut the fuck up, you worthless trolling twerp.
You are a little dick bitch who feels like it is his civic duty as
a Usenet troll to place his nose firmly in the sphincters of those he
dislikes every time they post. They all own you, spammy, you useless
piece of SHIT!
'Shit happens'
---Traitorous Spammy's reply to the fact that 34 Americans
died and 170 were injured when Israel attacked the USS
Liberty.
Spammy is a gutless coward who has never served his country in
uniform.
Sang Froid
> Y
Sang Froid
> Oh
Go piss up a rope, you feeble squat-to-pee troll.
Sang Froid
> Y
Allah's Cock Bar
> Gonna man up some day,
Sang Froid
> Gonna show up some day?
pussy. You're terrified. You know _exactly_ what will happen, you
weak little shit-ass.