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###EXPOSING LAMARR AS A VATICAN DESPOT!

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Ted McMillan

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Sep 27, 2001, 11:15:15 AM9/27/01
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Some sure ways to locate despots of the Vatican is seen in the example
below of one called "Lamarr Edwards." They usually approach us
requiring the freedom to have any belief in liberty. They also tell
us that we must not insult others for their honest beliefs. They will
then show a stark immunity to all of this.

If you are discussing things contrary to their agenda, specially
trained and appointed ones will appear on the forums to teach you and
the world about "LOVE." Those who clearly push a Vatican agenda will
insult you and say some of the worst things. They will even tell you
that liberty is useless and that you must give it up. Soon you will
see other people coming in pretending to be neutral and Protestant
teaching you about love and respect and Christlikeness not being able
to notice that you are being insulted. All their posts will be
against you.

Let's however see what the Carribean man Lamarr Edwards has to tell us
here:

shmo...@webtv.net (Lamarr Edwards) wrote in message
news:<2073-3BB...@storefull-295.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> Ted Seeber- As you know,I am a Protestant who has had disputes with
> many Catholic doctrines,and yes,Catholicism was brutal and wrong in the
> past,when dealing with those who had other beliefs.
>

This is a startling admission for Seeber never took kindly to this
truth being proclaimed for ANY reason. We now see that Lamarr Edwards
hates Catholics!

> Having said those things however,I must clearly state that the other
> Teds tirades are in no way representative of Protestant or Adventist
> views .
>

Lamarr Edwards here must CLEARLY STATE. This means that you are not
allowed to disagree with his despot assessments that would follow.

If any of you even read history books you would understand that the
ENTIRE Protestant Reformation unanimously declared that the Vatican
was the antichrist and the Beast of Revelation. How is it that Lamarr
can CLEARLY override our liberties and tell us we must accept that
"Ted's tirades are in no way representative of Protestant or Adventist
views?" Ted says that liberty must be maintained. Seeber tells us
that it is useless and only causes schism. How therefore does any of
this make sense? Did Adventists or the Protestants tell us that
liberty is useless and only causes schism? Or did they say even today
what I say. Just go and study the issues out for yourselves, but it
will not change the abominable despot minds here. History of the
Inquisitions is repeating, for back then, there was a staunch
similarity to the tactics they use for discussion here.

> I am convinced more than ever that he is truly ill,and like most
> conspiracy nuts,focused on a particular group,in this case Catholics,to
> be "them". Pray for him,he truly needs help.LE

But Lamarr has shown that he doesn't pray for me. He has called me an
ass and many other things. He has demonstrated his hate quite clearly
as if he can't wait to meet me face to face so that he can kill me
with his bare hands. He may well have to look up when he sees me
though! He cannot afford to ignore the posts of a psychotic ass dummy
as he has called me.

Why are we talking about Catholics? Why is it that on the forums many
strange posters post in sulking articles saying that the Adventist
Church thinks she is so "superior to her fellow brothers and sister in
Christ because she keeps saying that she is the only true church or
the Remnant Church?" Many posters keep posting this on the Adventist
forums showing that they have a very terrible emotional problem.

Why then is it then when I reminded them that even last year the Pope
wrote an official document world-wide stating that the Catholic Church
is the one and only true church, they suddenly became very quiet and
has ignored the question since? I bring the question up again and
again and they ignore it, change the subject, and use the most
profound techniques to squash my posting that I am convinced that they
spent all their hours in life doing something quite differently from
the focusing on Christ ONLY they told us we MUST do! Who are they
then and why has this happened? What! Are they Baptists??

Here is another point about these Vatican despots. They tell us that
we can believe anything! We opposed them, for we told them there are
some things that Adventists are not to believe. They stormed in to
tell us about LIBERTY and potential. We cannot restrict people from
having their honest beliefs and neither can we prevent them from
voicing it. Our argument was that they can voice their opinions
anywhere, BUT NOT WHILE THEY'RE ADVENTISTS. If they didn't like
Adventist doctrine, let them go somewhere else that had the doctrine
that they liked. Their liberties are preserved! We don't hunt them
down because of their beliefs.

If you would like to understand the dynamics of what I am saying, go
to the following article:

http://www.seventh-dayadventism.org/Authority.html

Soon we understood that there was some reason why our Adventist
leaders kept hitting us with Catholic doctrine in a subtle way. We
fight even now to prevent them from putting the Vatican flag in our
General Conference Sessions. They all fight us back. We even
received testimony from ex-Jesuits about what was happening. Now our
leaders are teaching us about the blessings of the doctrine of the
Eucharist. This is nothing that Baptists believe. It is nothing that
Presbyterians believe. This all points to one place, but when we make
the obvious suggestion, our leaders also despot babble and tell us it
is not true: they are not and never were Catholic. This is just the
same as Seeber and others despot babbled to us that the history of the
Christian church most prominently featured the Protestants persecuting
the Catholics and the Pope now being kind enough to apologize for
being persecuted: It is despot babble. You know how many of them
came preaching about love and not judging others? You know how many
of the same accused me and insulted me? What are they doing now?
They are despot babbling how all they focus upon is Christ and how
much they are in His grace! What do those words mean to me?

NOTHING!!

If I believed their words I would be in their Dark Ages in this day.
That is how they operated things back then, and I am determined that
every honest Catholic understand who they are. Back then society
moved by the despot words alone. The bible was not to be trusted.
Physical evidence was deemed not reliable. If the Catholic church
said anything different, everyone had to ignore the most clear
evidence in order to believe what the Pope decreed.

I go by the evidence and not by what they despot babble in their
unbelievable ability to easily contradict their own words and
teachings in a heartbeat. Any Christian who follows the "End
Justifies the Means" principle of the Vatican works for it and is
therefore Catholic!

In the Adventist Church, we protested the large aversions against
Adventist doctrine and we were maligned and opposed in the most
stealthy and vicious ways. They would do everything to sanction us
and even bring us before law so that we may receive civil penalties.
When these leaders in the church then published to Adventist members
about what is going on, they would put in articles how they love us so
much in Christ, how we all need each other and how all disaffected
ones should come back in the unity of the faith so that we can receive
their orders and trash all our doctrines. We then understood that
there was a conspiracy.

If you want to see proof that they have conspired against us, examine
the following links:

http://www.seventh-dayadventism.org/WorshipStyles.htm

This link shows how they worked to force the worship format of the
church to change so that it will be the same like all the other
churches. As they did this the church leaders did everything to make
us downplay, ignore and ultimate trash all our doctrines. They then
began telling us how we must unite with all the fellow believers in
Christ, but omitted that this uniting had to eventually be under the
tutelage of their Pope.

This particular article revealed their deceptions and largely deterred
their efforts since many veteran pastors were beginning to understand
who they were.

http://www.seventh-dayadventism.org/JesuitInfiltrationI.html

This article shows why, for years, our Adventist leaders suddenly
became very wishy-washy. The church had set beliefs that were
remarkably unified and unanimous.

There was a time in the Adventist Church where you would hear the same
thing if you visited a church i Anchorage, Alaska and Miami, Florida.
This was a symbol of strength, but after time it became clear that
some people in high places and low didn't like this. They therefore
made mass campaigns to rush members into the church without teaching
them about Adventist doctrine and standards.

When these members entered, older members would be found in conflict
with them because they were breaking the church doctrine. The
conflict was then taken to our church leaders, but the responses the
church leaders gave suddenly changed: They began to say that they
could not rule on anything where there is controversy. They told us
that Adventists arrived at their conclusions through their strong
relationship to Christ. Then they told us that the new members
arrived at their contradictory conclusions through their relationship
to Christ also, therefore the leaders told us that they can do
nothing.

We are now struggling with our leaders telling us that the worship
format and doctrines of the Adventist Church MUST change WHETHER WE
LIKE IT OR NOT. This has called untold controversy, schism and even
fragmented and independent groups sworn to preserve Adventist
doctrine, but this has not stopped the formerly wishy-washy leaders of
the Adventist Church. If you study national events you will find out
that the same thing is true on a national level.

We have therefore come to the conclusion that there is a conspiracy,
and we now suffer from Lamarr Edwards and others who call us
"conspiracy nuts" after they told us people can believe anything they
want and we should not judge nor malign them. We saw the SAME THING
happen on a church level and on a national level and we are beginning
to see that a religio-political system is behind it.

Now, forgetting that these (like Cindy and Lamarr) taught us we can
have our opinions and voice them anywhere for the sake of Liberty,
despots like Lamarr have coined the words "Conspiracy nuts,"
"conspiracy theorists". The word "theorists" is designed to make the
world know that their opinions now do not deserve the respect the
name-callers previously defended. They tack that word now after
anyone who exposes them or opposes their plans or opinions. It is
designed to make people believe that anyone having different opinions
can only theorize, but the despots are the real ones who have the
truth.

Look now at the insults that Lamarr put against me. I have said that
he was a despot. I presented truth and fact. I did not call him an
idiot or work to literally call him things that are not true. I
became opposed by Cindy and Donna teaching me about love. As usual,
Cindy also slipped up like many others on all the Adventist forums and
she insulted and maligned me also. She has not given me an
explanation for her attacks coming right in the middle of her lectures
about love, the fruits of the spirit, respecting others and refraining
from being judgmental. I asked her over and over again why she did
this, but she evades the questions like all the other conspirators we
find on all the forums and the internet. I asked her the last time
more strongly by saying thusly:

THE QUESTION WAS:

IF YOU ARE THE ONE TO TEACH LIBERTY LOVING PEOPLE ABOUT LOVE AS IF
YOUR FELLOW DESPOTS MAJOR IN THE FIELD, WHY DID YOU WRITE THE
FOLLOWING TO ME:

----------

Ted
Have you ever seen the cartoon Pinky and the brain? LOL, I'm sorry,
sometimes little things amuse me. Cindy

----------

I await your answer so I can see which cubic inch of heaven can
tolerate anyone like you...

I asked her in that manner because she is also very skilled and
trained in how to evade questions that are suicidal to her and her
sponsoring organization.

So Cindy has charged me with being bigoted because on my forum I have
certain SEALED TOPICS that I don't allow discussion on. Attackers of
Adventism have been on all the Adventist forums for a long time.
Although those forums have the name "Adventist" in them, they all have
a strange support for enemies of the Adventist faith.

All those "Adventist" forums also tell us that ANYTHING can be
discussed on them. We were highly offended that abandoned people who
constantly post every post against Ellen White and the Adventist faith
were allowed free reign on "Adventist" forums. Those posters taunted
us and told us that THEY CAN POST ABOUT ANYTHING on a free forum even
against our bigoted objections. But a problem develops when
Adventists register on those forums and can expose the deceptions of
those attacking Adventism in a marked way. That is me! People like
me are soon kicked off so that now almost all the forums claiming to
be Adventist are absurdly one-sided against the Adventist faith
hosting posters who have lifetime membership and lifetime enmity
against anything Adventist.

The biggest problem arose when I go on those forums and brought up the
issue of Jesuit Infiltration into the Adventist Church, the government
and society as a whole. When that happens we spark literal TERROR
into the hearts of the administrators of those forums!

Formerly forums that boasted that they will host any wild idea and
opinion in the name and for the sake of liberty, the administrators of
those forums go literally nuts when we post the actual problem taking
place in all the forums claiming to be Adventist. Formerly presenting
themselves as being neutral, the forum administrators prevent our
postings from reaching their boards. They send us email telling us
that we cannot present that topic on their boards. They tell us that
we are nuts, that there is no Jesuit Infiltration BECAUSE WE DID NOT
SPONSOR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS TO CATCH THESE JESUITS AND DID NOT
BRING OUR FINDINGS TO THEM SO THEY CAN TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS
JESUIT INFILTRATION. They tell us that we are just conspiracy-minded
and paranoid, and that they have to deal with the terror that comes
from posting that topic on their systems.

How are we to feel about being accused of posting a
"conspiracy-centered" gospel by these despots on the forums who then
proceeded to post that the Millerites got together and CONSPIRED to
conjure up the Adventist Investigative Judgment doctrine in order to
cover up their error of thinking that Christ was going to come in
1844? This terrible embarrassing hypocrisy was presented to them over
and over again, but how can they dare confess to this? How can Lamarr
or Cindy confess to preaching one thing so easily and violating it
easier than they preached it the next second, if not quicker?

On each and everyone of those forums are Adventists who successfully
defend their positions, but those like Lamarr and Cindy who attack the
faith are members of the secret orders of the Papacy. I have defeated
them in discussion many times but they use different tactics to cover
up what is said. That includes opening up many new topics to push the
points I presented on to successive screens on the forums. These then
come again to present their lies as if they were never defeated.
Therefore on my forum I have the principle that no discussion will be
allowed on SEALED TOPICS, *UNLESS* a unique argument is applied
against them. From that day forward people like Cindy, teaching us
how not to accuse nor to think that our opinions are right when others
might disagree, move in to accuse me of being a forum Hitler. I
really can't mind about that, just so long as you all understand the
truth.

For that reason I don't listen to these despots. They themselves
heard that "liberty is useless and only causes schism," but I am the
sick one. They keep telling us at different times and in different
places that we must unite in a global religion, showing that they are
ecumenical. Who is not supposed to know that ecumenism was formerly
an exclusive papal concept for world religion under the Pope?

They, in reply would shout against us, "What a horrid danger! Uniting
with our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ!" Our instant reply
would be that it must be a horrid danger, for even now, after
centuries after the Reformation we still see that our Protestant
forefathers were just as isolationist, narrow-minded, bigoted and
unchristlike as we are! These are the names they call us when we
refuse to be deluded by them and by what they're trying to do!

They prevented any such a thing from happening TO THIS DAY because
they know that many more issues are involved that are being kept away
from the knowledge of the people. They know it would be sponsored by
Rome for global domination. They know that a massive establishment
will be created. They know that this establishment will begin to pass
laws and rules that all MUST accept regardless of their beliefs. We
see more of the teeth of these movements because we can see that all
their wishy-washiness has vanished. Now they even still tell us we
can believe and post anything, but they keep calling us names and
opposing us while teaching us about the "Christian spirit."

Even now, although Lamarr and "Christian" Cindy tell the world that we
are KOOKS, asses, idiots, mentally unstable and all, you are supposed
to understand that such people are not to be given credibility by
staying up at nights trailing their posts. On the Catholic newsgroups
and other newsgroups they can never DARE to ignore what we post.
There is a terrible urgency to post and discredit every post that we
make and to trail it to the ends of the earth. Common sense is
supposed to tell ALL OF YOU that no one is to constantly trail the
posts of insignificant NUTS; but from the first day I pointed this
fact out, these folks cannot dare ignore us.

They tell us that we are the fools and forget the saying, "Never argue
with a fool. People might not know the difference!"

I therefore present to you Lamarr, Cindy, Seeber, and there are
literally hundreds more on the internet alone! I try to present to
you what they are doing. I know them by the doctrines and agendi that
they are pushing.
For the Work Finished!


Ted McMillan
THE LAST WORD ON ADVENTIST TRUTH!!
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.org

Lonnie Courtney Clay

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Ted McMillan <tmac...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:<jjg6rts7sn26g4cfk...@4ax.com>...

> Some sure ways to locate despots of the Vatican is seen in the example
> below of one called "Lamarr Edwards." They usually approach us

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

> They tell us that we are the fools and forget the saying, "Never argue
> with a fool. People might not know the difference!"
>
> I therefore present to you Lamarr, Cindy, Seeber, and there are
> literally hundreds more on the internet alone! I try to present to
> you what they are doing. I know them by the doctrines and agendi that
> they are pushing.
> For the Work Finished!
>
>
> Ted McMillan
> THE LAST WORD ON ADVENTIST TRUTH!!
> http://www.seventh-dayadventism.org


According to Anagram Genius "Ted McMillan" first two anagrams are
"Calm Dim Lent" and "Mint mad cell". Har Har Har. You can find the
product yourself, because I doubt that I should plug it any more
myself......

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