Topic of the Week: Dental Care
Stormin Mormon
packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone.
This week's topic is dental care.
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strabo
> Ever been out in the woods with a killer tooth ache? Bet you wished you had
> packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone.
>
> This week's topic is dental care.
>
The bark from the birch tree contains something like aspirin.
Stop by the grocery store and buy cloves. Chew them to kill
the pain.
Another assist can be had from a tablespoon of golden seal
extract twice a day for the bacterial infection.
The main thing is to prevent the infection from entering the
brain.
Ultimately it may come down to pliers. Just make sure you get
the right tooth!
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Dire Wolf
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> Ever been out in the woods with a killer tooth ache? Bet you wished
> you had packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone.
>
> This week's topic is dental care.
>
People used to die quite often from improper and just plain bad dental
care.
I have a complete dental care and extraction kit in my supplies including
lidocaine and 27 gauge syringes, but if I get separated from my kit I'm
SOL.
I have a few books on basic dentistry and ditch medicine if anyone wants
them I can upload them to mediafire and then post the link, LMK
Ted Campanelli
so great) words of knowledge:
> Ever been out in the woods with a killer tooth ache? Bet you wished you had
> packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone.
>
> This week's topic is dental care.
>
Make sure you have some cotton balls and Oil of Cloves in your dental stuff.
If you get a toothache, put some oil of cloves on a cotton ball. Put
the ball in your mouth and gently bite down - repeat as needed until you
can get the tooth fixed properly. The oil of cloves WILL get rid of the
toothache.
2 downsides to this.
1. You go around smelling like a baked ham.
2. DO NOT swallow the "juice". If you do, you will have "heartburn"
like you wouldn't believe.
Stormin Mormon
Dentist online. But you may likely have books I don't yet have.
Thank you for your kind offer. Or, you could post them to an ebooks usenet
group (please let us know if you do that).
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"Dire Wolf" <no...@none.none> wrote in message
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Ralph
> Ever been out in the woods with a killer tooth ache? Bet you wished you had
> packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone.
>
> This week's topic is dental care.
I ceased having cavities or cankor sores since I started using hydrogen
peroxide for a mouthwash, and I probably only use it twice a week. I
reversed a tooth infection with gly-oxide. Great stuff.
Dire Wolf
ab.ebook.flood
Unsorted and maybe some dupes, so you will have to sort through what you
want. Let me know if there are any incompletes and I will re-post.
Enjoy
Dire Wolf
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These are also going up into:
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which seems fto be available on more servers.
Stormin Mormon
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Ralph
Oh, you meant alt.binaries.ebook.flood !!!
Threw me cause there are some ab... groups :-/
I still only have the second one anyway, so thanks!!
Stormin Mormon
benzocaine based.
Tooth aches often respond to antibiotics.
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Stormin Mormon
tooth. I had a tooth ache once, thought it was the tooth just forward of the
wisdom tooth. I was mistaken.
For those who have such to work with, antibiotics are useful. Tooth ache is
often from infection. So, amoxicillin is a good thing. And we all know how
to get antibiotics without Rx. Right?
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Stormin Mormon
I do say, I wish I hadn't viewed the beheading videos right before bed time.
I may have trouble sleeping.
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Myal
> Now, that's a posting flood!
>
> I do say, I wish I hadn't viewed the beheading videos right before bed time.
> I may have trouble sleeping.
>
Jerry
strabo
> Birch trees, too? I thought it was willow trees. Yep, and get the right
> tooth. I had a tooth ache once, thought it was the tooth just forward of the
> wisdom tooth. I was mistaken.
>
You're right although there are other plants with the salicylic acid.
>
> For those who have such to work with, antibiotics are useful. Tooth ache is
> often from infection. So, amoxicillin is a good thing. And we all know how
> to get antibiotics without Rx. Right?
>
If it's infected there is probably swelling as the bacteria
and waste increases.
Try procaine penicillin first. Start with a double dose
and then drop to the recommended dose 4 times a day. You'll know
if it's working within 24 hours.
Stormin Mormon
> tooth. I had a tooth ache once, thought it was the tooth just forward of
> the
> wisdom tooth. I was mistaken.
>
You're right although there are other plants with the salicylic acid.
CY: That's good to know. My part of the world, willow is very common tree.
However, I do keep a good supply of pain pills. Cheap, now. Priceless,
later.
> For those who have such to work with, antibiotics are useful. Tooth ache
> is
> often from infection. So, amoxicillin is a good thing. And we all know how
> to get antibiotics without Rx. Right?
>
If it's infected there is probably swelling as the bacteria
and waste increases.
CY: Yes, swelling, and toxic wastes are a real issue.
Try procaine penicillin first. Start with a double dose
and then drop to the recommended dose 4 times a day. You'll know
if it's working within 24 hours.
CY: I've had good results with amoxicillin, oral, three or four times a day.
Procaine penicillin is a pain in the ass. Get it? Ha, ha!
DBM
"...Ever been out in the woods with a killer tooth ache? Bet you wished you
had packed some pain pills. Or maybe had that filling redone..."
I know from personal experience the value of *always* having painkillers
ready to hand...
As to handling dental problems in SHTF situation? Painkillers (including
'Oil of Cloves') can help you think rationally in a painful situation.
Lineman's pliers and a small mirror... Well, I think you can guess the
rest...
...That having been said... Proper diet and good dental hygiene (cleaning -
brushing, flossing, mouthwash, gargle, etc) can prevent a lot of problems
from happening in the first place - for some problems, the same actions may
provide relief (gum infections may respond to cleaning), or affect cavity
growth (cleaning and removal of food debris/etc).
Recent personal experience on a related note. Had pus leaking from a 'gum
bubble' on my upper gum - NO pain whatsoever, at *any* time.
Dentist x-rayed that part of the jaw. Turns out a molar had 'bad' (large)
abscess cavities around 2 of its 3 roots. Dentist's opinion was that 'lack
of pain' was due to the nerve being 'dead'...
Since it was an upper jaw molar, there was a chance the abscess might chew
through into the upper face bones, and into the various sinus cavities...
Something which might require 'facial reconstruction' in a 'worst case
scenario'...
Dentist gave me the option of a 'cheap' tooth extraction for under Aus $200
(only needed a single appointment), or some 'root canal' and other work for
a few thousand $ (and needing multiple appointments).
I went the 'cheap' route, not just because it was 'cheap' (but that *was* a
major factor, because if the infection did spread into the facial bones, I'd
need the thousands of $ for Hospital, Specialists, etc), and because
extraction was a 'quick fix' (single appointment), and because despite the
difference in price tags, there was no 'guarantee' that root canal would
work better than extraction.
Note - Extraction removes the source/reservoir of the infection entirely
(the entire tooth), allowing the abscess to 'drain' and heal. Root canal
relies on 'infected material' within the tooth being removed by human hands
(where you hope they get *all* the gunk out, and not leave any to cause
ongoing infection/reinfection).
What would you have done in my situation? Assume that you recognised the
symptom of an abscess ('gum bubble') and that...
A. You are in 'Best Times', where you can *get* whatever option (despite
the expense), and have it done in a timely manner..
B. You are in 'Good Times', where you can still *get* a Dentist to do a
proper 'cheap' extraction (including antibiotics and painkillers)
C. You are in 'Fortunate Times', where you can get someone else to do an
extraction for you (with or without commercial/herbal antibiotics,
painkillers, or
'proper' equipment)
D. You are in 'Serious Times', where you must DIY, all by yourself (with or
without commercial/herbal antibiotics, painkillers, or 'proper' equipment -
think
Tom Hanks in 'Castaway' as a worst case scenario)
Hope this helps...
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strabo
Good example.
The problem with removing teeth is that the resulting void may allow
surrounding teeth to move. If there is an abscess and the nerve is
dead, the question is whether or not the tooth has an adequate
structure. If so the root canal and cleaning makes sense. If the tooth
is fractured or the tissue and bone are eroded such that it has no firm
footing, it may as well come out.
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>
>
>
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Myal
> Is that a good thing? Desensetize myself to killing?
>
its your call on the good or bad of it , but if you are going to watch
beheading movies before bedtime and dont want to have trouble sleeping ,
its one method of doing it .
JakeD
wrote:
>Good example.
>
>The problem with removing teeth is that the resulting void may allow
>surrounding teeth to move. If there is an abscess and the nerve is
>dead, the question is whether or not the tooth has an adequate
>structure. If so the root canal and cleaning makes sense. If the tooth
>is fractured or the tissue and bone are eroded such that it has no firm
>footing, it may as well come out.
I often wondered how reliable it is to self-extract a tooth in such a
situation. Can the roots be relied upon to come out in one piece,
along with the main body of the tooth, or is there the possibility of
some root being left behind, causing ongoing problems?
Perhaps a good pair of long-nose pliers might be a sensible component
of a survival kit.
JD
Strabo
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 04:50:29 -0400, strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Good example.
>>
>> The problem with removing teeth is that the resulting void may allow
>> surrounding teeth to move. If there is an abscess and the nerve is
>> dead, the question is whether or not the tooth has an adequate
>> structure. If so the root canal and cleaning makes sense. If the tooth
>> is fractured or the tissue and bone are eroded such that it has no firm
>> footing, it may as well come out.
>
> I often wondered how reliable it is to self-extract a tooth in such a
> situation. Can the roots be relied upon to come out in one piece,
> along with the main body of the tooth, or is there the possibility of
> some root being left behind, causing ongoing problems?
>
If you gotta do it, you gotta do it. That's why it's called survival.
BTW, I'm not a dentist. I was a remote site/emergency medic in the AF.
Rule number one, identify the right tooth.
If the tooth is intact and unbroken chances are it will come out whole.
Much depends on the age and sex and the reason for the extraction. Women
and children tend to have smaller teeth, smaller jaws and one would
assume, less difficult to remove. Roots can be long and large, spread
out and hard to maneuver so it takes patience. A slow careful upward
pull with side to side movement to break suction - pause occasionally
and work the tooth in all directions.
However, deeply rooted teeth, notably molars, may sometimes have to be
broken to remove them. Usually this involves using a chisel to split
the tooth from the top and work the split open into the tissue.
Hopefully you can then remove both halves with roots, intact. That's
what a good manual is for. Know what you're doing but realize that it's
basic mechanics.
If a fragment remains, it will move over time taking a path of
least resistance. It may take a week, a month, or more, to work its
way to a surface. Avoid leaving fragments because you don't know
where or when they will come out. But, it happens. Strange things,
loose bodies.
>
> Perhaps a good pair of long-nose pliers might be a sensible component
> of a survival kit.
>
The right tool for the job applies. In a pinch an ordinary plier may do
but in dentistry there are different plier shapes to reach around and
grasp a tooth. In addition you'll want a leverage tool, a bent
screwdriver might do, to go under the tooth and push a stubborn tooth
from its bottom. A serious kit, one for large groups and extended use,
should have basic surgical and dental tools.
> JD
>