The Fort Hood Shooting Was Done By An AMERICAN Soldier
Too_Many_Tools
basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
Why is that wingers?
While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
TMT
Details emerge about Fort Hood suspect background
By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, Associated Press Writer Brett J. Blackledge,
Associated Press Writer
1 hr 7 mins ago
WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow
officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers
who supported U.S. wars. He required counseling as a medical student
because of problems with patients.
There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities
say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.
Most of all, his motive.
For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July,
the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident
and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He
received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services
University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.
While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that
required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger,
who was the training director at the time.
Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but
noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with
patients. He recalled Hasan as a "mostly very quiet" person who never
spoke ill of the military or his country.
"He swore an oath of loyalty to the military," Grieger said. "I didn't
hear anything contrary to those oaths."
But, more recently, federal agents grew suspicious.
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law
enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide
bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide
bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the
lives of their comrades.
They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the
posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the
shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of
anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
Federal authorities seized Hasan's computer Friday during a search of
his apartment in Killeen, Texas, said a U.S. military official who
spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of
Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in
the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and he wanted out
of the Army.
"Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had
listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military."
She said he had sought a discharge from the military for several
years, and even offered to repay the cost of his medical training.
A military official told The Associated Press that Hasan was in the
preparation stage of deployment, which can take months. The official
said Hasan had indicated he didn't want to go to Iraq but was willing
to serve in Afghanistan. The official did not have authorization to
discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
A second military official said Hasan's family has Palestinian roots.
There have been reports that he was harassed for his Muslim religion,
but the official says there is no indication Hasan filed a complaint
within the military about that.
Terrorism task force agents plan to interview several of Hasan's
relatives Friday, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on
condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to
discuss the case.
Noel Hasan said her nephew "did not make many friends" and would say
"they military was his life."
A cousin, Nader Hasan, told The New York Times that after counseling
soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with post-traumatic
stress disorder, Hasan knew war firsthand.
"He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy," Nader Hasan said.
"He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over
there."
Federal law-enforcement agents ordered an evacuation of the apartment
complex where Hasan lived in Killeen, Texas, Thursday night and
conducted a search of his home, said Hilary Shine, director of public
information for the city. She didn't say what was found during the
search.
Officials said earlier that federal search warrants were being drawn
up to authorize the seizure of his computer.
Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, told Fox
News that Hasan had hoped President Barack Obama would pull troops out
of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments
with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard
to prevent his pending deployment.
Col. Kimberly Kesling, deputy commander of clinical services at
Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood, said she had known Hasan.
"You wouldn't think that someone who works in your facility and
provided excellent care for his patients, which he did, could do
something like this," Kesling said. She praised his work ethic,
saying, "In my personal interactions, there was never any indication
he would do something like this." Kesling described him as "a quiet
man who wouldn't seek the limelight" and said she was 'shocked' when
she heard that he was the man suspected of carrying out the
shootings.
Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington,
often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque
Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong
Muslim.
"I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He
spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.
On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the
mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his
nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.
"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born
in Palestine."
Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said.
"We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said. "Mostly we
were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing
like an extremist."
Hasan earned his rank of major in April 2008, according to a July 2008
Army Times article.
He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he
also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in
Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in
1997.
But college officials said Friday that Hasan graduated with honors in
biochemistry in 1995 and there was no record of him serving in any
ROTC program.
He previously had attended Barstow Community College in Barstow,
Calif., and Virginia Western Community College in Roanoke, Va.,
according to Virginia Tech records.
___
Associated Press writers Lara Jakes, Pam Hess, Lolita C. Baldor and
Brett Zongker in Washington; Alicia Chang in Los Angeles; and Sue
Lindsey in Roanoke, Va., contributed to this report.
Quiffie
Islam-
inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
the 9/11 disaster.
Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
RELIGION.
Who's your enemy, Baby?
Peter Franks
> I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
People in the military have surrendered the right to choose whether or
not to obey orders.
pyotr filipivich
I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
Oh well, at least TMT didn't quack about how psych evaluations would
have prevented this.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
Too_Many_Tools
Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Actually I was going to.
A psych test would have prevented this attack.
But you already knew that.
And why the clipping of the distribution list?
Trying to hide the ugly truth of what is going on in the military?
Likely.
TMT
Prescott Niles
> I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
No he wasn't, liar!
NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
Stop making lies.
> While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
> be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
So you admit that loser was wrong to shoot unarmed people?
The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
they joined.
So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
I will "stop you"... remember?
Do you know what I mean by "stop you?"
Straightarrow
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A TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL BY A RADICAL ISLAMIC
FUNDAMENTALIST !!! Not a SUICIDE you simple minded sack of shit !!
Your Messiah is too busy partying,playing golf,campaigning and giving
speeches to protect the American people. He has blood on his hands !!!
Lookout
wrote:
>Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
>Islam-
>inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
>Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
>underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
>killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
>It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
>with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
>military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
>inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
>abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
Should all christians be watched too? Tim McVie was a christian.
Dumbass.
Too_Many_Tools
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A DOMESTIC TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL BY AN AMERICAN RELIGIOUS
NUT!
See...I can use the CAPS key too.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nobody is forced?
Why don't we give all those in the military the option of leaving and
see who is left to turn out the lights.
Your comments tell us that you have neither served.
No surprise.
TMT
Prescott Niles
You idiot.. The Suspect is alive.
grow a brain cell
Prescott Niles
> On Nov 6, 12:43 pm, Prescott Niles <TheKn...@bass.gov> wrote:
>
>>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>
>>>I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
>>>basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
>>>soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>>
>>No he wasn't, liar!
>>
>>NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
>>
>>Stop making lies.
>>
>>
>>>While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
>>>be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>>
>>So you admit that loser was wrong to shoot unarmed people?
>>The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
>>they joined.
>>
>>So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
>>Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
>>
>>I will "stop you"... remember?
>>
>>Do you know what I mean by "stop you?"
>
>
> Nobody is forced?
Correct.
Nobody is FORCED to join the military.
And also, nobody is FORCED to get on a ship, airplane, or sub, to take
orders, even after they are in the Military.
Didn't you know that?
> Why don't we give all those in the military the option of leaving and
> see who is left to turn out the lights.
Why don't YOU come by my house, like you said you would?
I WILL force your little nose bone through the back of your tiny thin
skull, when you make that attempt to enter my home illegaly.
I WILL force you to make noises that ridicule "your friends" that YOU
said would show up with YOU!
What IS keeping you?
Lookout
wrote:
>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
>> I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
>> basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
>> soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
>No he wasn't, liar!
>
>NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
He joined up. He IS being forced to go over seas.
>
>Stop making lies.
>
>
>> While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
>> be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>
>So you admit that loser was wrong to shoot unarmed people?
>The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
>they joined.
>
>So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
>Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
AHAHAHA Challenging someone to a fight on the Internet! The true sign
of a fucking coward.
r wiley
Yep. kind of like the DC sniper. The government profilers
were seeing either trademarks of al Qaeda training, or a lone,
white, right wing loner.
It turned out to be two Africanamericans, one of whom was
trained by the U.S. Army.
Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose was particularly
determined to aprehend a lone white guy. The actual shooters
were stopped multiple times by road blocks and for a traffic violation,
but released because they didn't fit the description Moose wanted the
sniper to fit.
rw
Sarah Ehrett
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:>I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
:>basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
:>soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
Doctors in the military don't "fight" you loony nutcase. I have an
acquaintance who is an Army Major in the Reserves. He has been to
Iraq twice already because he [ like Hasan he also trained at Walter
Reed AMH in DC ] is a highly skilled surgeon in a specific specialty -
hand surgery.
Lookout
wrote:
>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 12:43 pm, Prescott Niles <TheKn...@bass.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>
>>>>I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
>>>>basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
>>>>soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>>>
>>>No he wasn't, liar!
>>>
>>>NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
>>>
>>>Stop making lies.
>>>
>>>
>>>>While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
>>>>be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>>>
>>>So you admit that loser was wrong to shoot unarmed people?
>>>The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
>>>they joined.
>>>
>>>So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
>>>Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
>>>
>>>I will "stop you"... remember?
>>>
>>>Do you know what I mean by "stop you?"
>>
>>
>> Nobody is forced?
>
>Correct.
> Nobody is FORCED to join the military.
>And also, nobody is FORCED to get on a ship, airplane, or sub, to take
>orders, even after they are in the Military.
Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about. You CAN'T refuse
deployment.
>Didn't you know that?
>
>
>> Why don't we give all those in the military the option of leaving and
>> see who is left to turn out the lights.
>
>Why don't YOU come by my house, like you said you would?
>
>I WILL force your little nose bone through the back of your tiny thin
>skull, when you make that attempt to enter my home illegaly.
>
>I WILL force you to make noises that ridicule "your friends" that YOU
>said would show up with YOU!
AHAHAHAHAHA You fucking little punk.
>What IS keeping you?
Common sense. You're a fucking chickenshit loon
Lookout
wrote:
NO medical personnel carry arms. Officer or enlisted.
Too_Many_Tools
Hmmm....sounds like we might have had a little hate crime going on
here that the military was keeping quiet.
Manager: Muslim sticker removed from suspect's car
48 mins ago
KILLEEN, Texas – An apartment complex manager says the man accused of
opening fire at Fort Hood, Texas recently had a religious bumper
sticker torn off his car.
The manager, John Thompson, says a fellow soldier allegedly keyed Maj.
Nidal Malik Hasan's car and ripped up the bumper sticker. Thompson
says the soldier had been to Iraq and was upset to learn Hasan was
Muslim.
Thompson, who manages the Killeen, Texas complex where Hasan lives,
says the bumper sticker read: "Allah is Love." In Arabic, Allah means
God.
A report filed on Aug. 16 with Killeen police says Hasan's car had
been scratched causing $1,000 worth of damage. The report says an Army
employee had been arrested. It didn't provide more details about what
happened.
Strabo
>
> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>
They were.
These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection,
the IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
Could we transport guns on base? Yes. Could we wear handguns on base?
Not unless it was a duty weapon. Could we have them in vehicles? Yes.
Personal guns were never far away.
Who ever heard of a warrior without his personal weapons?
Too_Many_Tools
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Please continue...tell us all in graphic gory detail what you want to
do to me.
We all are listening.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:08:42 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
>
>
> :>I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> :>basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> :>soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
> Doctors in the military don't "fight" you loony nutcase. I have an
> acquaintance who is an Army Major in the Reserves. He has been to
> Iraq twice already because he [ like Hasan he also trained at Walter
> Reed AMH in DC ] is a highly skilled surgeon in a specific specialty -
> hand surgery.
Wrong...doctors fight.
TMT
Lookout
wrote:
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>
>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>>
>
>They were.
>
>These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
>
>When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
>shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection,
>the IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
No you did not.You're lying.
Benj
> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> > I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
> > them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>
> They were.
>
> These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
>
> When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
> shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection,
> the IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
All this is just one more example of how the only purpose of guns is
to kill! And if the base has locked up all the guns under guard and
the strictest of gun control, then it's clear that the problem is all
the guns in the areas surrounding the controlled area. Mayor Bloomberg
has stated this fact over and over and proved it with sting
operations.
What we need is for some of the wives and mothers of the slain at Ft.
Hood to step forward and join the Brady Campaign and go on the major
media calling for more laws to stop this easy access to gun. The
military needs to be disarmed RIGHT NOW! So does the police. I can
only wonder how long you commie Left whingers are going to allow these
guns to remain where they can give off their deadly rays that turn
ordinary professionals into crazed mass killers. So long as ONE GUN is
left in this country we are going to have gun rays doing their deadly
deeds!
Nobody has more guns than the military and police. HOW LONG ARE WE
GOING TO LET THIS MADNESS GO ON? Liberals, it's now UP TO YOU to put
a stop to it! You've got the votes. You've got the power. Disarm
military and police NOW!
Benj
> Please continue...tell us all in graphic gory detail what you want to
> do to me.
>
> We all are listening.
>
> TMT
No, Comrade. It's not what we want to do TO you, it's what we want you
to do FOR America!
Start campaigning among all your "progressive" pals to disarm the
military and police NOW!
STOP THE KILLING! STOP THE MADNESS!
(we know we can count on you1)
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Nov 6, 5:16 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Please continue...tell us all in graphic gory detail what you want to
>> do to me.
>>
>> We all are listening.
>>
>> TMT
Apparently you think the most cruel thing we could do is set you free
from government Socialism and let you earn your own living.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
How does new information change the issue that the criminal was born and
raised in the USA religious nutcase?
> grow a brain cell
--
Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
I, too, had personal weapons in my barracks room with the full knowledge
and consent of my squadron commander.
Just a constitution loving American
An AMERICAN citizen and SOLDIER, you hiding racist moron
Straightarrow
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So if your car gets scratched or a bumper sticker gets peeled off your
car you think it's OK to go on a shooting rampage?? I bet he never had
a tricycle when he was a kid either.
Straightarrow
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Which means what?? The guy was a known fringe radical muslim that
spouted hatred for the evil infidels. But,thanks to political
correctness he couldn't be given the boot from the military.
Observer
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
>> Islam-
>> inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>>
>> Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
>> underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
>> killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>>
>> It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
>> with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
>> military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
>> inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
>> abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>>
>> Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
>> the 9/11 disaster.
>>
>> Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
>> tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>>
>> The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
>> RELIGION.
>>
>> Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
>Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
>DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
So, you contend the 9/11 attacks were suicide missions by Americans?
Really?
__
The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.
Observer
Soon you might be as articulate as RONSTUPIDSURPLUS.
HH&C
> On Nov 6, 5:17 pm, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>
> > pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> > > I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
> > > them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>
> > They were.
>
> > These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
>
> > When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
> > shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection,
> > the IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
>
> All this is just one more example of how the only purpose of guns is
> to kill!
Really? Maybe Strabo can fill you in on wether he killed the IG or
not.
It sounds to me like the purpose of his guns was as a conversation
piece with the IG.
Observer
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 6, 12:43 pm, Prescott Niles <TheKn...@bass.gov> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> > I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
>> > basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
>> > soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>>
>> No he wasn't, liar!
>>
>> NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
>>
>> Stop making lies.
>>
>> > While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
>> > be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>>
>> So you admit that loser was wrong to shoot unarmed people?
>> The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
>> they joined.
>>
>> So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
>> Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
>>
>> I will "stop you"... remember?
>>
>> Do you know what I mean by "stop you?"
>
>Nobody is forced?
Nobody is forced TO JOIN.
>Why don't we give all those in the military the option of leaving and
>see who is left to turn out the lights.
It don't work that way. Once you VOLUNTARILY enlist, you're pretty
much stuck for aquite a while.
>Your comments tell us that you have neither served.
Your comments tell us you you deliberatly misquote and misrepresent.
>No surprise.
Yup.
Observer
We want to ignore you, but keep tuning in to see what idiocy you'll
come up with next.
>We all are listening.
And the rest of us are laughing.
SteelersFanInTx
Really? According to reports, he had received at least one poor
performance evaluation, and was heard to have made statements that
should have raised red flags. Seems to be more of a case of
incompetence than the right -wing mantra of "political correctness" if
you look at the facts. That's what it means.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
Observer
Good thing Tool isn't able to own guns, given his proclivity for
failing psych tests.
Lookout
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:31:23 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:17:24 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>>>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>They were.
>>>
>>>These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
>>>
>>>When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
>>>shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection, the
>>>IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
>>
>> No you did not.You're lying.
>
>I, too, had personal weapons in my barracks room with the full knowledge
>and consent of my squadron commander.
Bullshit.
Curly Surmudgeon
Times change. In 1966/7 Dyess AFB, TX AFCS had our own barracks floor in
a new brick building. Each room was built for four but since we worked
shifts and there was ample housing each of us had our own room with
shared bath with the room next door.
The only requirement was to keep the weapons in one of the unused
lockers. Locked. Our mission was ground electronics in support of
aircraft, GCA, Navaids and ground radio. Out of maybe 25 people in our
squadron at least a half dozen were avid hunters and shooters.
Not only did we have personal weapons but all the ammo we wanted. Just
because our reality differs from your opinion doesn't indicate "bullshit."
hal
<wesp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Which means what?? The guy was a known fringe radical muslim that
>> spouted hatred for the evil infidels. But,thanks to political
>> correctness he couldn't be given the boot from the military.
>
>Really? According to reports, he had received at least one poor
>performance evaluation, and was heard to have made statements that
>should have raised red flags. Seems to be more of a case of
>incompetence than the right -wing mantra of "political correctness" if
>you look at the facts. That's what it means.
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
conservatives look at the facts? If they could do that they wouldn't
be conservatives.
tankfixer
CurlySu...@live.com says...
But Islam is a religion of peace... ;')
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
So are Christians, ostensibly.
Moslems are, indeed, crazymotherfuckers but only one tribe of
crazymotherfuckers. The difference between them, jews, christers, and
other groveling barbarians is in degree, not in kind.
Strabo
> On Nov 6, 5:17 pm, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>
>>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>> They were.
>>
>> These days ALL personal weapons MUST be locked away in an armory.
>>
>> When I was a GI personal weapons were common. I had a gun rack of
>> shotguns and rifles in my room on base. Once during an inspection,
>> the IG once stopped to chat about several of my acquisitions.
>
> All this is just one more example of how the only purpose of guns is
> to kill! And if the base has locked up all the guns under guard and
> the strictest of gun control, then it's clear that the problem is all
> the guns in the areas surrounding the controlled area. Mayor Bloomberg
> has stated this fact over and over and proved it with sting
> operations.
>
There ya' go! No guns, no exceptions. Zero Tolerance.
How do we do it? Simple.
Everyone will wear an explosive devise set to go off whenever the
wearer touches a metal object.
Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!
Soon, no more gun wielders.
Totalitarians are brilliant people.
>
> What we need is for some of the wives and mothers of the slain at Ft.
> Hood to step forward and join the Brady Campaign and go on the major
> media calling for more laws to stop this easy access to gun. The
> military needs to be disarmed RIGHT NOW! So does the police. I can
> only wonder how long you commie Left whingers are going to allow these
> guns to remain where they can give off their deadly rays that turn
> ordinary professionals into crazed mass killers. So long as ONE GUN is
> left in this country we are going to have gun rays doing their deadly
> deeds!
>
> Nobody has more guns than the military and police. HOW LONG ARE WE
> GOING TO LET THIS MADNESS GO ON? Liberals, it's now UP TO YOU to put
> a stop to it! You've got the votes. You've got the power. Disarm
> military and police NOW!
>
And please hurry. C'mon Liberals...we're getting tired of waiting for
you to break down our doors.
Red Cloud
> Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> Islam-
> inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> the 9/11 disaster.
>
> Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> RELIGION.
>
> Who's your enemy, Baby?
Your assertions are totally falses. 9/11 and Bush war on terrorism
are both
false. False invasion. False war. Both led to further engage in
unfinished war in Middle-east which caused this tragedy. Remember
the Japanese-American
internment during WWII was false from the start but later apologized
by US gov't.
Get this terrible fact: Mexican illegal invasion is far more dangerous
than Islamic
terrorism. How many US citizen were victim of Mexican illegals crime?
How many
Mexicans illegal are in federal jail for commiting crime in US soil?
Look Swine
Flu from Mexico caused over 1,000 US death. Come on... This whole war
on
terrorism is joke!
....the_pc_jellllybean!!.!!!!.
"Red Cloud" <mmdi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8ee314b7-5f70-4c2e...@f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
---
Exactly.
ArmyOfDorkness
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.255ea3d...@news.bytemine.net...
Is christianity?
Lookout
More likely is was caused by the one unnecessary war in Iraq. The
military is keeping substandard soldiers so they can keep the ranks
full. He's just another example of it. No doubt he should have been
taken off the deployment list and it even sounds like he asked. But
the Army (and all the services) are shorthanded so they are taking
anyone who's walking.
Lookout
wrote:
>In article <hd2bhb$ubq$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
So isn't christianity yet look what we're doing.
Lookout
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
Ok...I stand corrected on a time line. I'm talking today's army.
You're talking 40 years ago..it was a different time in America and in
the military.
Besides..we don't really consider guys in the air force the military
:)
Straightarrow
>
> - Show quoted text -
Facts?? You have the "facts"?? The "FACTS" are still coming in.
Perhaps you should get ALL the facts before you jump in with both feet
to defend a radical islamic terrorist.
tankfixer
@r27g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, too_man...@yahoo.com says...
> > > I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> > > basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> > > soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
> >
> >
> > NOBODY is forced to join the armed forces, let alone go over seas.
> >
> > Stop making lies.
> >
> > > be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
> >
> > The other soldiers he killed and wounded didn't feel mistreated when
> > they joined.
> >
> > So when are you going to show up and break into my house (318 Sunnyside
> > Terrace,08807) and tell me how you were "mistreated", like you said?
> >
> > I will "stop you"... remember?
> >
> > Do you know what I mean by "stop you?"
>
> Nobody is forced?
Nobody is forced to join...
>
> Why don't we give all those in the military the option of leaving and
> see who is left to turn out the lights.
>
> Your comments tell us that you have neither served.
It is evident you never did.
Gunner Asch
It has been since the Reformation.
And Islam?
Gunner
"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
worth."
Gray Ghost
@news.bytemine.net:
TMT said:
> While his actions were wrong
This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
somehow blame the military.
My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
left may be the only hope for sanity left.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
tankfixer
We are, for the most part, a few crazy individuals being found in all
groups.
>
> Moslems are, indeed, crazymotherfuckers but only one tribe of
> crazymotherfuckers. The difference between them, jews, christers, and
> other groveling barbarians is in degree, not in kind.
So you think you are apart from everyone ?
tankfixer
DorkAs...@hotmail.com says...
Havn't seen any crhistian suicide bombers lately have you ?
tankfixer
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
Wasn't aware the Pope had given anyone marching orders recently...
Bama Brian
> I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
He is a Muslim, was born one, although he was born in the US. He has
spent much of his adult life proselytizing for Islam and has always been
at odds with the US for its invasions of the middle east.
Next stoopit question, please.
>
> While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
> be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
Utter bullshit. Today's soldiers are ALL volunteers. Not a single one
has been drafted into the army. If they don't like it, they don't have
to reenlist - or even join up in the first place.
<SNIP>
--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana
Gunner Asch
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
>@news.bytemine.net:
>
>TMT said:
>> While his actions were wrong
>
>This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
>somehow blame the military.
>
>My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
>left may be the only hope for sanity left.
Of course it is. Its been like a festering boil since the 30s. Its
finally risen to a huge green and black zit that poisons everything it
touches.
Extermination of the Left is the only way to save America.
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:12 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>
>>tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
>>@news.bytemine.net:
>>
>>TMT said:
>>> While his actions were wrong
>>
>>This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
>>somehow blame the military.
>>
>>My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
>>left may be the only hope for sanity left.
>
>Of course it is. Its been like a festering boil since the 30s. Its
>finally risen to a huge green and black zit that poisons everything it
>touches.
>
>Extermination of the Left is the only way to save America.
>
>
>Gunner
you suck the blood out of the left every day and have the BALLS to
suggest they are the enemy and need to be exterminated.
I have an idea. START WITH YOURSELF
Nick
Gunner Asch
I suck the blood out of the left every day?????
Could you give me an example of that if you would be so kind?
Have you taken your meds yet today?
Obviously not.
Please do so before replying.
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
You're not the beneficiary of all the Welfare Income from the rest of
your live-in *family* ???
Gunner Asch
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
WHAT benefits do my family have? My ex has medical treatment. Period.
End program. Full stop.
No welfare, no food, no bill assistance. MIA only.
I pay for everything not related to her long term medical care. Her car,
her gas, her insurance, maintainence etc etc etc. Her housing, her food,
her clothing etc etc...all come out of my pocket.
You have an issue with that?
Fuck you if you do.
<G>
Besides..Im a Democrat..its my right to get free medical care. 30
million wetbacks are proof of this.
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 07 Nov 2009
08:56:06 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>>> >> Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
>>>> >> DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>>>> >
>>>> > You idiot.. The Suspect is alive.
>>>>
>>>> How does new information change the issue that the criminal was born and
>>>> raised in the USA religious nutcase?
>>>
>>> But Islam is a religion of peace... ;')
>>
>>Is christianity?
>
>It has been since the Reformation.
It has been since the beginning. The problems entered when Church
and State became co-mingled, as it was in the Roman Empire. In a
nutshell, all Constantine did was change the theocratic structure of
the Empire from having the Emperor as the divine source, to having the
Emperor represent the divine source. Treason and Heresy were still
similar crimes. For an interesting perspective, consider that there
are a number of martyrs and near martyrs who suffered at the hands of
a Government which consider itself "Christian".
>
>And Islam?
Islam is a governmental structure with religious overtones.
Unfortunately, Mohammed did not separate the religious from the
governmental. Like the nearby Roman and Persian Empires, he saw the
role of government as enforcing the religious edits. Which would be
his edicts.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 07 Nov 2009
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:12 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>
>>tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
>>@news.bytemine.net:
>>
>>TMT said:
>>> While his actions were wrong
>>
>>This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
>>somehow blame the military.
>>
>>My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
>>left may be the only hope for sanity left.
>
>Of course it is. Its been like a festering boil since the 30s.
Since before then. It was only in the 1930s that it got big
enough to really notice. Like any cancer, the first serious
expansion occurs before it is obvious. (Think about it, how big is a
cancer _cell_? After the first reproduction? The second?)
> Its finally risen to a huge green and black zit that poisons everything it
>touches.
>
>Extermination of the Left is the only way to save America.
I fear you are right. I don't like it, but then I don't like
exercising or eating less in order to lose weight.
pyotr filipivich
<str...@flashlight.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:17:24
-0500 in misc.survivalism:
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>
>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>>
>
>They were.
So what happened to this Dr? What happened to his magical Army
protection against the evil rays which make people want to shoot
innocents?
Or was the spell broken because he was a psychiatrist?
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Extermination of the Left is the only way to save America.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Gunner
>>>>
>>>>you suck the blood out of the left every day and have the BALLS to
>>>>suggest they are the enemy and need to be exterminated.
>>>>
>>>>I have an idea. START WITH YOURSELF
>>>>
>>>>Nick
>>>
>>>I suck the blood out of the left every day?????
>>>
>>>Could you give me an example of that if you would be so kind?
>>>
>>>Have you taken your meds yet today?
>>>
>>>Obviously not.
>>>
>>>Please do so before replying.
>>>
>>>Gunner
>>
>>You're not the beneficiary of all the Welfare Income from the rest of
>>your live-in *family* ???
>>
>WHAT benefits do my family have? My ex has medical treatment. Period.
>End program. Full stop.
>
>No welfare, no food, no bill assistance. MIA only.
>
>I pay for everything not related to her long term medical care. Her car,
>her gas, her insurance, maintainence etc etc etc. Her housing, her food,
>her clothing etc etc...all come out of my pocket.
>
>You have an issue with that?
Okay what about the *kids*
I smell welfare money leaking into your family from somewhere.
>Fuck you if you do.
>
><G>
>
>Besides..Im a Democrat..its my right to get free medical care. 30
>million wetbacks are proof of this.
I think you need to spend more time at the rifle range and less time
on the computer. Providing you can afford the ammo, reloads or
otherwise.
Find the rifle with the biggest recoil, then shoot it until your
fucking arms fall off. If you still want to go to War after that
save one bullet for yourself. After all, you're an admitted lefty
now, so it's only appropriate.
>Gunner
Nick
Gunner Asch
My kid is 32 yrs old, has a wife and two children. And they are moving
to Florida.
Was there any other questions you wished to look stupid about?
>
>>Fuck you if you do.
>>
>><G>
>>
>>Besides..Im a Democrat..its my right to get free medical care. 30
>>million wetbacks are proof of this.
>
>I think you need to spend more time at the rifle range and less time
>on the computer. Providing you can afford the ammo, reloads or
>otherwise.
>
>Find the rifle with the biggest recoil, then shoot it until your
>fucking arms fall off. If you still want to go to War after that
>save one bullet for yourself. After all, you're an admitted lefty
>now, so it's only appropriate.
>
I did reserve the right to change back at any time. Probably the moment
I squeeze the trigger on some Democrat Love child who is trying to loot
shoot and scoot, Ill change back to a Republican.
Was there any other questions mon frar?
Gunner Asch
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 07 Nov 2009
>09:48:10 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:12 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>
>>>tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
>>>@news.bytemine.net:
>>>
>>>TMT said:
>>>> While his actions were wrong
>>>
>>>This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
>>>somehow blame the military.
>>>
>>>My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
>>>left may be the only hope for sanity left.
>>
>>Of course it is. Its been like a festering boil since the 30s.
>
> Since before then. It was only in the 1930s that it got big
>enough to really notice. Like any cancer, the first serious
>expansion occurs before it is obvious. (Think about it, how big is a
>cancer _cell_? After the first reproduction? The second?)
>
>> Its finally risen to a huge green and black zit that poisons everything it
>>touches.
>>
>>Extermination of the Left is the only way to save America.
>
> I fear you are right. I don't like it, but then I don't like
>exercising or eating less in order to lose weight.f
Its not like any humans are going to get kilt...just varmints..you
know..like shit eating possems and skunks and the creepy things that
live under rocks in the swamp.
>
>pyotr
>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
No, not at all. I'm in the set of the rational, the next evolutionary
stage after barbarian man.
There are many of us in fact.
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Bible: Slavery Good, Gays Bad, Snakes Talk
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
No but that is not the benchmark. How many Moslems has Bush's "Crusade,"
the neocons and Republican party killed in Iraq? Substantially more than
a few brown skinned crazymotherfuckers.
The difference is only in degree, not in kind. Christers or Moslems,
you're all crazymotherfuckers.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
How many lives has the Roman Catholic Church taken and/or ruined? Nor do
the vicarious cannibals represent all Christers. They're all
Curly Surmudgeon
But we had much bigger bombs... <grin> Nor did we consider the FANG's
Air Force. Bush was a FANG...
Curly Surmudgeon
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Strabo
> <str...@flashlight.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:17:24
> -0500 in misc.survivalism:
>>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>>>
>>>
>>They were.
>
> So what happened to this Dr? What happened to his magical Army
> protection against the evil rays which make people want to shoot
> innocents?
> Or was the spell broken because he was a psychiatrist?
Do not look for reason from a crazymotherfucker.
Curly Surmudgeon
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
Uhm, not just his welfare family but the hundreds of thousands of dollars
that Gummer has cost in medical care and property taxes. Like Bush
Gummer claims to be a right wing Republican but in truth is a tax and
spend liberal.
hal
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>Uhm, not just his welfare family but the hundreds of thousands of dollars
>that Gummer has cost in medical care and property taxes. Like Bush
>Gummer claims to be a right wing Republican but in truth is a tax and
>spend liberal.
Gunner is a typical conservative: he is insanely against "socialism"
if anyone else benefits. When he is on the receiving end socialism is
just fine.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Nov 6, 7:49 pm, Straightarrow <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 7:25 pm, Just a constitution loving American
>
> > <wespen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 6, 12:52 pm, Straightarrow <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 6, 12:37 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > > > > > Islam-
> > > > > > inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> > > > > > Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> > > > > > underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> > > > > > killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> > > > > > It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> > > > > > with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> > > > > > military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> > > > > > inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> > > > > > abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> > > > > > Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> > > > > > the 9/11 disaster.
>
> > > > > > Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> > > > > > tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> > > > > > The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> > > > > > RELIGION.
>
> > > > > > Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
> > > > > Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > > > > DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > A TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL BY A RADICAL ISLAMIC
> > > > FUNDAMENTALIST !!! Not a SUICIDE you simple minded sack of shit !!
> > > > Your Messiah is too busy partying,playing golf,campaigning and giving
> > > > speeches to protect the American people. He has blood on his hands !!!
>
> > > An AMERICAN citizen and SOLDIER, you hiding racist moron- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Which means what?? The guy was a known fringe radical muslim that
> > spouted hatred for the evil infidels. But,thanks to political
> > correctness he couldn't be given the boot from the military.
>
> Really? According to reports, he had received at least one poor
> performance evaluation, and was heard to have made statements that
> should have raised red flags. Seems to be more of a case of
> incompetence than the right -wing mantra of "political correctness" if
> you look at the facts. That's what it means.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I suspect this is the case.
One needs to remember that the shooter prospered in the BUSH military.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:47:15 -0800 (PST), Straightarrow
>
>
>
>
>
> <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 6, 4:12 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 6, 11:08 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> >> > basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> >> > soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
> >> > Why is that wingers?
>
> >> > be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>
>
> >> > Details emerge about Fort Hood suspect background
> >> > By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, Associated Press Writer Brett J. Blackledge,
> >> > Associated Press Writer
> >> > 1 hr 7 mins ago
>
> >> > WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow
> >> > officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers
> >> > who supported U.S. wars. He required counseling as a medical student
> >> > because of problems with patients.
>
> >> > There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities
> >> > say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.
> >> > Most of all, his motive.
>
> >> > For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July,
> >> > the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical
> >> > Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident
> >> > and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He
> >> > received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services
> >> > University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.
>
> >> > While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that
> >> > required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger,
> >> > who was the training director at the time.
>
> >> > Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but
> >> > noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with
> >> > patients. He recalled Hasan as a "mostly very quiet" person who never
> >> > spoke ill of the military or his country.
>
> >> > "He swore an oath of loyalty to the military," Grieger said. "I didn't
> >> > hear anything contrary to those oaths."
>
> >> > But, more recently, federal agents grew suspicious.
>
> >> > At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law
> >> > enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide
> >> > bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide
> >> > bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the
> >> > lives of their comrades.
>
> >> > They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the
> >> > posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the
> >> > shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of
> >> > anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
>
> >> > Federal authorities seized Hasan's computer Friday during a search of
> >> > his apartment in Killeen, Texas, said a U.S. military official who
> >> > spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
>
> >> > In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of
> >> > Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in
> >> > the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and he wanted out
> >> > of the Army.
>
> >> > "Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had
> >> > listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military."
>
> >> > She said he had sought a discharge from the military for several
> >> > years, and even offered to repay the cost of his medical training.
>
> >> > A military official told The Associated Press that Hasan was in the
> >> > preparation stage of deployment, which can take months. The official
> >> > said Hasan had indicated he didn't want to go to Iraq but was willing
> >> > to serve in Afghanistan. The official did not have authorization to
> >> > discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
>
> >> > A second military official said Hasan's family has Palestinian roots.
> >> > There have been reports that he was harassed for his Muslim religion,
> >> > but the official says there is no indication Hasan filed a complaint
> >> > within the military about that.
>
> >> > Terrorism task force agents plan to interview several of Hasan's
> >> > relatives Friday, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on
> >> > condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to
> >> > discuss the case.
>
> >> > Noel Hasan said her nephew "did not make many friends" and would say
> >> > "they military was his life."
>
> >> > A cousin, Nader Hasan, told The New York Times that after counseling
> >> > soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with post-traumatic
> >> > stress disorder, Hasan knew war firsthand.
>
> >> > "He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy," Nader Hasan said.
> >> > "He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over
> >> > there."
>
> >> > Federal law-enforcement agents ordered an evacuation of the apartment
> >> > complex where Hasan lived in Killeen, Texas, Thursday night and
> >> > conducted a search of his home, said Hilary Shine, director of public
> >> > information for the city. She didn't say what was found during the
> >> > search.
>
> >> > Officials said earlier that federal search warrants were being drawn
> >> > up to authorize the seizure of his computer.
>
> >> > Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, told Fox
> >> > News that Hasan had hoped President Barack Obama would pull troops out
> >> > of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments
> >> > with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard
> >> > to prevent his pending deployment.
>
> >> > Col. Kimberly Kesling, deputy commander of clinical services at
> >> > Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood, said she had known Hasan.
>
> >> > "You wouldn't think that someone who works in your facility and
> >> > provided excellent care for his patients, which he did, could do
> >> > something like this," Kesling said. She praised his work ethic,
> >> > saying, "In my personal interactions, there was never any indication
> >> > he would do something like this." Kesling described him as "a quiet
> >> > man who wouldn't seek the limelight" and said she was 'shocked' when
> >> > she heard that he was the man suspected of carrying out the
> >> > shootings.
>
> >> > Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington,
> >> > often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque
> >> > Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong
> >> > Muslim.
>
> >> > "I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He
> >> > spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.
>
> >> > On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the
> >> > mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his
> >> > nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.
>
> >> > "I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born
> >> > in Palestine."
>
> >> > Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said.
>
> >> > "We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said. "Mostly we
> >> > were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing
> >> > like an extremist."
>
> >> > Hasan earned his rank of major in April 2008, according to a July 2008
> >> > Army Times article.
>
> >> > He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he
> >> > also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in
> >> > Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in
> >> > 1997.
>
> >> > But college officials said Friday that Hasan graduated with honors in
> >> > biochemistry in 1995 and there was no record of him serving in any
> >> > ROTC program.
>
> >> > He previously had attended Barstow Community College in Barstow,
> >> > Calif., and Virginia Western Community College in Roanoke, Va.,
> >> > according to Virginia Tech records.
>
> >> > ___
>
> >> > Associated Press writers Lara Jakes, Pam Hess, Lolita C. Baldor and
> >> > Brett Zongker in Washington; Alicia Chang in Los Angeles; and Sue
> >> > Lindsey in Roanoke, Va., contributed to this report.
>
> >> Hmmm....sounds like we might have had a little hate crime going on
> >> here that the military was keeping quiet.
>
> >> Manager: Muslim sticker removed from suspect's car
> >> 48 mins ago
>
> >> KILLEEN, Texas – An apartment complex manager says the man accused of
> >> opening fire at Fort Hood, Texas recently had a religious bumper
> >> sticker torn off his car.
>
> >> The manager, John Thompson, says a fellow soldier allegedly keyed Maj.
> >> Nidal Malik Hasan's car and ripped up the bumper sticker. Thompson
> >> says the soldier had been to Iraq and was upset to learn Hasan was
> >> Muslim.
>
> >> Thompson, who manages the Killeen, Texas complex where Hasan lives,
> >> says the bumper sticker read: "Allah is Love." In Arabic, Allah means
> >> God.
>
> >> A report filed on Aug. 16 with Killeen police says Hasan's car had
> >> been scratched causing $1,000 worth of damage. The report says an Army
> >> employee had been arrested. It didn't provide more details about what
> >> happened.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >car you think it's OK to go on a shooting rampage?? I bet he never had
> >a tricycle when he was a kid either.
>
> Good thing Tool isn't able to own guns, given his proclivity for
> failing psych tests.
> __
>
> The last official act of any government is the looting of the nation.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL...poor little Observer....such a bitter little winger.
I own and enjoy my guns....and would pass a psych test.
Which is more than you can say.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> >basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> >soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
>
> >Why is that wingers?
>
> Obama's escalation of the war most likely.
>
> >While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
> >be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>
> --- Tip of the hat to robert bowman
He is...didn't you get the memo?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >here that the military was keeping quiet.
>
LOL...anyone who served knows what has been going on inside the
military when Bush was in charge.
Do you really think the military culture can be modified in several
months?
If so, then you must also be one of those who expected Obama to fix
Bush's 96 months of screwups in 9 months?
What planet do you wingers live on?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> In article <hd2bhb$ub...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> CurlySurmudg...@live.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:58:24 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheKn...@bass.gov>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > >> On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > >>>Islam-
> > >>>inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> > >>>Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> > >>>underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> > >>>killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> > >>>It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> > >>>with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> > >>>military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> > >>>inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> > >>>abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> > >>>Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in the
> > >>>9/11 disaster.
>
> > >>>Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and tolerance
> > >>>of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> > >>>The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> > >>>RELIGION.
>
> > >>>Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
> > >> Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > >> DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
>
> > How does new information change the issue that the criminal was born and
> > raised in the USA religious nutcase?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Supposely so is Christianity...so why are there so many dead people
lying around?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Nov 6, 10:04 am, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > Islam-
> > inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> > Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> > underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> > killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> > It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> > with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> > military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> > inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> > abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> > Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> > the 9/11 disaster.
>
> > Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> > tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> > The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> > RELIGION.
>
> > Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
> are both
> false. False invasion. False war. Both led to further engage in
> unfinished war in Middle-east which caused this tragedy. Remember
> the Japanese-American
> internment during WWII was false from the start but later apologized
> by US gov't.
>
> Get this terrible fact: Mexican illegal invasion is far more dangerous
> than Islamic
> terrorism. How many US citizen were victim of Mexican illegals crime?
> How many
> Mexicans illegal are in federal jail for commiting crime in US soil?
> Look Swine
> Flu from Mexico caused over 1,000 US death. Come on... This whole war
> on
> terrorism is joke!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
McCain would disagree with you.
TMT
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
No...I think we're all pretty well convinced now that you've left
earth orbit forever. Out of all the crazymotherfuckers out here, YOU
get to wear the Clown Crown.
Back to Ad Seg with you.
Nick
tankfixer
CurlySu...@live.com says...
YOu don't seem to have a lock on sanity..
Too_Many_Tools
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:42:55 -0800 (PST), SteelersFanInTx
>
>
>
>
>
> <wespen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 6, 7:49 pm, Straightarrow <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 6, 7:25 pm, Just a constitution loving American
>
> >> > On Nov 6, 12:52 pm, Straightarrow <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Nov 6, 12:37 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> >> > > > > Islam-
> >> > > > > inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> >> > > > > Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> >> > > > > underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> >> > > > > killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> >> > > > > It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> >> > > > > with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> >> > > > > military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> >> > > > > inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> >> > > > > abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> >> > > > > Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> >> > > > > the 9/11 disaster.
>
> >> > > > > Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> >> > > > > tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> >> > > > > The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> >> > > > > RELIGION.
>
> >> > > > > Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
> >> > > > Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> >> > > > DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
>
> >> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > > FUNDAMENTALIST !!! Not a SUICIDE you simple minded sack of shit !!
> >> > > Your Messiah is too busy partying,playing golf,campaigning and giving
> >> > > speeches to protect the American people. He has blood on his hands !!!
>
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> spouted hatred for the evil infidels. But,thanks to political
> >> correctness he couldn't be given the boot from the military.
>
> >Really? According to reports, he had received at least one poor
> >performance evaluation, and was heard to have made statements that
> >should have raised red flags. Seems to be more of a case of
> >incompetence than the right -wing mantra of "political correctness" if
> >you look at the facts. That's what it means.
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting
>
> military is keeping substandard soldiers so they can keep the ranks
> full. He's just another example of it. No doubt he should have been
> taken off the deployment list and it even sounds like he asked. But
> the Army (and all the services) are shorthanded so they are taking
> anyone who's walking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think you are correct.
Hmmm...so why are all these wingers still here?
Shouldn't they be over there?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
> tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
> @news.bytemine.net:
>
> TMT said:
>
> > While his actions were wrong
>
> This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
> somehow blame the military.
>
> My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
> left may be the only hope for sanity left.
>
> “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston
> Churchill
Poor old Grey Ghost...so innocent that he doesn't understand that the
shooter's actions were the result of a larger set of events.
Does your mother still tuck you in at night with a story about George
Bush?
I will give you an easy one to answer....try telling us how was the
shooter able to get guns into the room?
Doesn't the military even have the basic security on base that an
American high school does?
As for the extermination of the Left, it would seem that the Right is
self destructing..right on schedule.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> In article <idudnfZeSOpw6mjXnZ2dnUVZ_i2dn...@giganews.com>,
> DorkAsKni...@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "tankfixer" <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:MPG.255ea3d...@news.bytemine.net...
> > > In article <hd2bhb$ub...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > CurlySurmudg...@live.com says...
>
> > >> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:58:24 -0500, Prescott Niles <TheKn...@bass.gov>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >> On Nov 6, 12:04 pm, Quiffie <jismqu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >>>Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > >> >>>Islam-
> > >> >>>inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
> > >> >>>Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
> > >> >>>underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
> > >> >>>killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?
>
> > >> >>>It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> > >> >>>with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> > >> >>>military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> > >> >>>inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> > >> >>>abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.
>
> > >> >>>Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> > >> >>>the
> > >> >>>9/11 disaster.
>
> > >> >>>Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> > >> >>>tolerance
> > >> >>>of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> > >> >>>The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
> > >> >>>RELIGION.
>
> > >> >>>Who's your enemy, Baby?
>
> > >> >> Call it what it is...the the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
> > >> >> DOMESTIC suicide attack by an AMERICAN in the "homeland" since 9/11.
>
>
> > >> How does new information change the issue that the criminal was born and
> > >> raised in the USA religious nutcase?
>
> > > But Islam is a religion of peace... ;')
>
> > Is christianity?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Christian bombers use airplanes and drones as their delivery system.
Different delivery systems...same result...dead people.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > I find it very interesting to note that the wingers are avoiding the
> > basic fact that the Fort Hood shootings were done by an AMERICAN
> > soldier who was an officer who was being forced to fight in Iraq.
>
>
> He is a Muslim, was born one, although he was born in the US. He has
> spent much of his adult life proselytizing for Islam and has always been
> at odds with the US for its invasions of the middle east.
>
> Next stoopit question, please.
>
>
>
> > While his actions were wrong, there seems to be a much bigger story to
> > be told about the military of America and how soldiers are treated.
>
> has been drafted into the army. If they don't like it, they don't have
> to reenlist - or even join up in the first place.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bama Brian
> Libertarian
> "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
> George Santayana
Thanks for agreeing with me that he is an AMERICAN.
This makes the shooting a domestic terrorist act.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:18:12 -0600, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com
>
> (Gray Ghost) wrote:
> >tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote in news:MPG.255ea47fbc4871f38d9
> >@news.bytemine.net:
>
> >TMT said:
> >> While his actions were wrong
>
> >This says it all about TMT. He's ready to either excuse the bastard or
> >somehow blame the military.
>
> >My views on peaceful coexistence are changing over time. Extermination of the
> >left may be the only hope for sanity left.
>
> finally risen to a huge green and black zit that poisons everything it
> touches.
>
>
> Gunner
>
> but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
> cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
> you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
> listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
> worth."
It seems that the Right is doing an excellent job of exterminating
itself.
TMT
Lib Loo
"hal" wrote in message news:4af6386b...@news.newsguy.com...
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:21:59 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Uhm, not just his welfare family but the hundreds of thousands of dollars
>>that Gummer has cost in medical care and property taxes. Like Bush
>>Gummer claims to be a right wing Republican but in truth is a tax and
>>spend liberal.
>
> Gunner is a typical conservative: he is insanely against "socialism"
> if anyone else benefits. When he is on the receiving end socialism is
> just fine.
>
Apparently Congress agrees that you should pay for Gunner's healthcare, as
evidenced by tonigh's vote. . So just be a good citizen and send in your
payment. Now that it's official, any backtalk will land you in a
re-education camp at the O'booverville, which will be springing up next to
your town, really soon.
tankfixer
20b07d...@x15g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, too_man...@yahoo.com
says...
> LOL...anyone who served knows what has been going on inside the
> military when Bush was in charge.
>
That leaves you out then...
Lib Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2ba26472-b8fa-4086...@m25g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
You should be signing up right away TMT! Grab your brown shirt and go! Have
your mommies drive you in the Subaru. Go now, Obama needs you! Go!
Lib Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:180e0748-2801-4f08...@m25g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
One needs to remember that he prospered in the Bush military, but went on
jihad in the Obama military. On Obama's watch.
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:hd58m7$mdh$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
Well, what do you think the Roman Catholics thought of your crazymother?
Does she still swallow?
Lib Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6ef77950-dc0e-4d9d...@t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
No Obamacare to keep them alive?
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:hd58r2$mdh$6...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:46:29 -0800, pyotr filipivich
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Strabo
>> <str...@flashlight.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:17:24
>> -0500 in misc.survivalism:
>>>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I thought there was something special about soldiers which allowed
>>>> them to be around firearms without being effected by the emanations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>They were.
>>
>> So what happened to this Dr? What happened to his magical Army
>> protection against the evil rays which make people want to shoot
>> innocents?
>> Or was the spell broken because he was a psychiatrist?
>
> Do not look for reason from a crazymotherfucker.
>
>
Your old crazymother did the jihadist too? Wow!