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Cliff

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:29:34 AM11/7/09
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It's been a very good week for the NRA.
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Cliff

Alex Clayton

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:38:11 AM11/7/09
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"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
> --
> Cliff
>
>

Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making it
illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the right
to murder people any time we feel like it.
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corner drug dealer an unlicensed Pharmacist.

Nobammer

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:48:16 AM11/7/09
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Alex Clayton wrote:

> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>
>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>> --
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>
> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.

A better way would be to screen army recruits better and keep all the
filthy low life allahbastards out of it.

Scott

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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>> --
>> Cliff

What a fucking clueless lowlife piece of shit. Somehow I knew it would be
this turd using these tragedies for a podium.

And why not? He obviously has no self respect whatever, and nothing is too
low for him to stoop under.

> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making
> it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the
> right to murder people any time we feel like it.

Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his galactic
cowardice.


Scott

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:35:15 AM11/7/09
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"Nobammer" <noba...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Better yet would be the Muslims who practice the religion of peace and light
start to clean their own house.


Alex Clayton

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:55:51 AM11/7/09
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"Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws making
>> it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the
>> right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
> galactic cowardice.
>

What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
--
Welfare is NOT a birth right.

Gray Ghost

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:15:43 PM11/7/09
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to ask
government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that says
We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.

That or slink away lieing coward.

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�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill

Eregon

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:28:34 PM11/7/09
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.

You are obviously deluded on 2 points:

1. The NRA does not condone murder -- killing a perp is a Civic
Responsibility and Duty -- but does support the Second Amendment to the
US Constitution (as does the US Supreme Court) which protects the US
Citizenry's Right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

2. Criminals are NOT "people" and, thus, are only subject to the GAME
Laws where, not being a Protected or otherwise Regulated Species, they
fall under the classification of "Vermin" with no Bag Limit, Season, or
Restriction of Method(s) Used in their despatch. [The same category as
the Cockroach and the Rat.]

Alex Clayton

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"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put up
some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
victims.
--
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage

Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:36:12 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:55:51 -0800, "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

It is illegal. Your brain damage or Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kook
status is noted with great amusement.

Gunner

Scott

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:41:24 PM11/7/09
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I read some of the responses, I guess sarcasm is a lost art.


Alex Clayton

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Many people have their mouth open as it sails right over their head. <G>
--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering, 'What the hell
happened?'

Hiccum Blurpaedius

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:35:31 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 10:48 am, Nobammer <nobam...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Alex Clayton wrote:
> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message

With separation of church and state we can finally kick god out of the
country god dammit.

RD (The Sandman)

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:08:28 PM11/7/09
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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You win. Murder is illegal and the NRA agrees with you.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?

RD (The Sandman)

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:09:24 PM11/7/09
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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Interesting satire...... I assume because your statements can't be
serious.

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Scott

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:33:36 PM11/7/09
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"Zombywoof" <fish...@live.com> wrote in message
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> It isn't a lost art, but does require some tone & inflection to come
> across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
> written word.

If you know anything at all about the NRA and the law, in this instance his
posts are obviously sarcasm.

Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:28:44 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:04:37 -0500, Zombywoof <fish...@live.com>
wrote:

>It isn't a lost art, but does require some tone & inflection to come
>across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
>written word.

Most folks use <sarcasm/on> to start...then finish with <sarcasm/off>


"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,
but obviously craves. The most appropriate response, and perhaps the
cruelest, IMO, is to simply killfile and ignore him. An alternative, if
you must, would be to post the same standard reply to his every post,
listing the manifold reasons why he ought to be ignored. Just my $0.02
worth."

Gunner Asch

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:31:23 PM11/7/09
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Amendment 1
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If you try to kick god out of the country...you will be in utter
violation of the 1st Amendment.

At which point the 2nd Amendment kicks in. And you will either be
imprisioned..or dead.

Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
those trying to take them away.

Gunner

tankfixer

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:25:50 PM11/7/09
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In article <FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com>, alexx1400
@yahoo.com says...

About the silliest strawman I've seen in a while.
Does the left have no honesty anymore ?

tankfixer

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:27:17 PM11/7/09
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In article <XbWdnWaTwMdCRGjX...@supernews.com>,
nu...@bidneth.com says...

If you have seen previos posts by leftists the sarcasm is less obvious..
They make such silly statements all the time.

pyotr filipivich

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:44:14 PM11/7/09
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Let the Record show that Zombywoof <fish...@live.com> on or about
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:04:37 -0500 did write/type or cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:

>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:41:24 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
>
>>
>It isn't a lost art, but does require some tone & inflection to come
>across correctly. Something that is extremely hard to do in the
>written word.

The written word cannot smile.

Hells bells, it has a face stiffer than Nancy "Botox" Pelosi


There are any number of jokes which do not work when written, but
only when spoken.


pyotr

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pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

Cliff

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:50:27 PM11/7/09
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Guns make you safer, dontcha know. Lott & the NRA & the gun makers
& sellers said so !!!
The more guns the better & who has more guns than the army?
And Coulter sez it's the safest place too !!!

And there were lots more ...
http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=shooting+-fort

Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:56:06 PM11/7/09
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See "Going Rouge" !!!

[
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:03:29 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:

>Not to nit-pick, but the dumb bastard cant spell either. Sarah has him
>tripping over his tongue, and he is too stupid to be embarrassed.
>
>rouge
>[roozh]
>-noun 1.any of various red cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips.
>2.a reddish powder, chiefly ferric oxide, used for polishing metal, glass,
>etc.

<Snicker>

Talk about the clueless leading the blind !!!

>3.Canadian football.
>
>-verb (used with object) 4.to color with rouge.
>
>-verb (used without object) 5.to use rouge.
>
>Origin:
>1475-85; < F: red < L rubeus; akin to red 1
>
>

Wingers are so dumb they are a hoot !!

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rouge-Sarah-Coloring-Activity/dp/0615332773
[
$12.00 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25.
]


http://www.orbooks.com/
[
PRE-ORDER NOW!
All orders before November 16, 2009, get a 10% discount.
]

Far more valuable than that other book ...
]

LOL ...

I just love spotting a smart (IQ nearly over 60) winger.
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Cliff

Gunner Asch

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:25:50 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Absolutely none. And hasnt had since FDR or before.

Alex Clayton

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"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
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>
> Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
> The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
> --
> Cliff
>
>

If the Damn NRA would let them pass a law against this, then we would not
have to be having this talk. If they would just make the place a gun free
zone, the worst thing they would ever have to worry about is some kook using
his car to run people down. Damn that NRA, and the GOP majority in the
congress.

Stormin Mormon

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Might we have even one example? Please?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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Damn NRA always spouting how we all have the right

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Lib Loo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8


Cliff

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:43:03 -0800, "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:5k1cf51ntqt163ocs...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> Pretty good week for the NRA & gun sales, eh?
>> The wingers are coming to shoot you so you you need more guns ...
>> --
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>
>If the Damn NRA would let them pass a law against this, then we would not
>have to be having this talk.

The more guns the more you need more guns, right?

And it's very, very good for the NRA's business model !!!
And profits for many firms.

> If they would just make the place a gun free
>zone, the worst thing they would ever have to worry about is some kook using
>his car to run people down. Damn that NRA, and the GOP majority in the
>congress.
--

Cliff

Cliff

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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:35:01 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>Anything to take the eyes off ObamaCare, huh Cliff.

"There is nothing to fear but fear itself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

And gummer getting (& paying something for) health care
I suppose.
Right?
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Cliff

Cliff

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:34:26 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:

>"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:x6KdnbPNK9HZ5WjX...@nventure.com...


>
>> "Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message

>> news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>>> It's been a very good week for the NRA.
>>> --
>>> Cliff
>
>What a fucking clueless lowlife piece of shit. Somehow I knew it would be
>this turd using these tragedies for a podium.
>
>And why not? He obviously has no self respect whatever, and nothing is too
>low for him to stoop under.

FREE CLUE:
I ONLY posted "It's been a very good week for the NRA."
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Cliff

Cliff

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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:15:43 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com (Gray
Ghost) wrote:

>"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in

>news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>
>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>
>>>
>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>
>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>
>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>
>And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
>And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to ask
>government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that says
>We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>
>That or slink away lieing coward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DM2ic9lTjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WKLXCHgOiA

HTH
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Cliff

Cliff

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:32:56 -0800, "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...

>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>>
>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>
>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>
>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
>> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>> ask
>> government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>> says
>> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>>
>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>

>> --
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
>> gospel
>> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
>> Churchill
>
>BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
> Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
>people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put up
>some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
>victims.

But per gunlogic you get the most people shot when nobody has any guns
and are the safest when you have lots of guns !!!

Perhaps someone should give the army some guns?
--
Cliff

HH&C

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On Nov 7, 4:31 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:35:31 -0800 (PST), Hiccum Blurpaedius
>
>
>
>
>
> <hic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 7, 10:48 am, Nobammer <nobam...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Alex Clayton wrote:
> >> > "Cliff" <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
> >> >news:2tiaf5lgl27r93dn7...@4ax.com...
>
> >> >>  It's been a very good week for the NRA.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cliff
>
> >> > Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
> >> > making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> >> > have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> >> A better way would be to screen army recruits better and keep all the
> >> filthy low life allahbastards out of it.
>
> >With separation of church and state we can finally kick god out of the
> >country god dammit.

Looks like Alberto has a new nym.

> Amendment 1
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
> speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
> assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
>
> If you try to kick god out of the country...you will be in utter
> violation of the 1st Amendment.
>
> At which point the 2nd Amendment kicks in. And you will either be
> imprisioned..or dead.
>
> Thats what the Constitution is for..to protect everyones rights from
> those trying to take them away.
>
> Gunner

Some people even faught for those rights. Others didn't.

HH&C

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On Nov 7, 3:03 pm, Zombywoof <fishwi...@live.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:32:56 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
>
>
>
>
>
> <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
> >> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote in

> >>news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>
> >>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>
> >>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
> >>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
> >>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>
> >>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
> >>>> galactic cowardice.
>
> >>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
> >>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>
> >> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support yes?
> >> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
> >> ask
> >> government permission to  have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
> >> says
> >> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>
> >> That or slink away lieing coward.
>
> >> --
> >> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
> >> gospel
> >> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
> >> Churchill
>
> >BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
>
> Really?  Creating a law against something automatically does away with
> it?  

That's DC think. Check your brain at the door.

SaPeIsMa

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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in

>> news:FZGdnXD30MMFO2jX...@nventure.com:
>>
>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c4-dnWX094pNPGjX...@supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>
>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>
>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support
>> yes?
>> And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>> ask
>> government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>> says
>> We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.
>>
>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>
>> --
>> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the
>> gospel
>> of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery." Winston
>> Churchill
>
> BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
> Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
> people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put
> up some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
> victims.
> --

Hate to disappoint you dummy
But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
the US during the same period.
Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.

Gray Ghost

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"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Your incoherent babbling aside.

Please respond to the request:

And you will supply us with the specifics of the NRA's murder support


yes? And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not

have to ask government permission to have guns, I want to see an actual


quote that says We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.

Which I asked in response to your previous inchoherent rambling:

>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.

--

Gunner Asch

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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com>
wrote:


Absolutely correct.

I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
armed..and in the East, far fewer were?

Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.

Shrug

Gunner

Cliff

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:01:54 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>the US during the same period.

Far fewer people being run over by horses & wagons due to the
lower population density.

BTW, How did the Native Americans fare with
all those armed illegals?
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:04:49 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
wrote:

>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....

On the run from the law ....

>while those in the East were chickenshits.

Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
--
Cliff

Michael A. Terrell

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Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Absolutely correct.
>
> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?


The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
or sent them to prison.


> Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
> enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

Michael Price

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:23:16 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 10, 7:06 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:
> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:uMKdnYEeZqXXMmjX...@nventure.com...
>
>
>
> > "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns9CBC7CCF3CD1BWe...@216.196.97.142...
> >> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote in

For fuck's sake moron it's called irony.

tankfixer

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:53:12 PM11/9/09
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In article <5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...

Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?

Gunner Asch

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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:


2 that Im aware of. And only select parts of town and only on select
times.

Both were head of the trail towns where cattle was shipped back east.

Gunner

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:28:33 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

Can you prove that?
Nah..you're lying again.

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:29:26 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:20:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com>,
>>Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>>> >enforcement.....
>>>
>>> On the run from the law ....
>>>
>>> >while those in the East were chickenshits.
>>>
>>> Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
>>> And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
>>
>>Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?
>
>
>2 that Im aware of. And only select parts of town and only on select
>times.

So you can't document it. And why can't you? Because you're lying
again.

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:29:56 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely correct.
>>
>> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>
> The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>or sent them to prison.

Another liar.

SaPeIsMa

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"Michael Price" <nini...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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#
# For fuck's sake moron it's called irony.
#

For fuck's sake, moron, irony requires unspoken clues to be evident
Since you're not even smart enough to use emoticons to transmit ANYTHING but
the written text,, the only moron who can't communicate properly is you.

pyotr filipivich

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:40:37 AM11/10/09
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I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 09 Nov 2009
15:16:02 -0800 in misc.survivalism:

>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com>
>wrote:
>>"Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "Gray Ghost" <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "Alex Clayton" <alex...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>> "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sure has. Maybe now the damn lawmakers will finally pass some laws
>>>>>>> making it illegal to kill people. Damn NRA always spouting how we all
>>>>>>> have the right to murder people any time we feel like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps shithead would like to give us a cite or two to back up his
>>>>>> galactic cowardice.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What you mean you support the NRA's stand that we all have the right to
>>>>> murder people? I still think it should be illegal.
>>>>
>>>> And you will supplynus with the specifics of the NRA's murder support
>>>> yes? And I don't mean just that they want law abiding persons to not have to
>>>> ask government permission to have gubs, I want to see an actual quote that
>>>> says 'We the NRA endorse the random killing of innocents.'
>>>>
>>>> That or slink away lieing coward.
>>>
>>> BS. if there was a law against it, there would be no murder dumbass.
>>> Same thing if they had made the post a gun free zone. They have all those
>>> people walking around armed, so it's like the old west. If they just put
>>> up some signs and made the place a gun free zone there would have been no
>>> victims.
>>
>>Hate to disappoint you dummy
>>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>>the US during the same period.
>>Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>
>Absolutely correct.
>
>I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>armed..and in the East, far fewer were?

People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on
attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
they were where they were to make a better life.


>
>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.

And there were some things which were just not tolerated - or
done.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

Gunner Asch

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:58:06 AM11/10/09
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Or at least..never done again after being caught. Dangling by the neck
from a rope tends to stop bad habits and career paths pretty well.


>-
>pyotr filipivich.
>Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
>you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

"IMHO, some people here give Jeff far more attention than he deserves,

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:37:15 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>
> The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>generally didn't survive the trip.

Explains why California is so conservative, right?
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:38:12 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>the strong willed and hard
>working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>or sent them to prison.

Hence all the dead wingers in boot hills.
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:39:31 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ask gummer about his Westerns ....
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:12:19 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
wrote:

>I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were


>armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>
>Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
>enforcement.....while those in the East were chickenshits.

He's thinking of the James Gang.
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:17:25 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:40:37 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on


>attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
>they were where they were to make a better life.

http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html

"From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"

"Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
today."

Wingers lie.
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:18:56 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>Hate to disappoint you dummy
>But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>the US during the same period.

http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html

"From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"

"Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
today."

>Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.


Wingers lie.
--
Cliff

Ed Huntress

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:28:10 AM11/10/09
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"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:pr5if55s58o3dvlgg...@4ax.com...

Where are you guys getting this information, from dime-store western novels?

Here's where you start:

"Body Counts and Murder Rates: The Contested Statistics of Western
Violence," Reviews in American History - Volume 31, Number 4, December 2003,
pp. 554-563

The first thing you'll learn from that is that the population densities in
the "wild West" were too small to produce meaningful statistics. However, if
you insist on using them anyway, you'll find that murder rates in the old
West were several times higher than in the East.

Second, there were plenty of guns in the East at the time, as well.

If you're going to refer to Frederick Turner's or Mo Udall's claims about
this subject, "Body Counts..." addresses all of them.

I realize that the facts hold little interest for you, Gunner, or Terrell on
this subject (or most others). What you're probably looking for is some
fodder for a good rant. If so, please excuse this intrusion of reality into
your imaginary world of adolescent fantasies.

--
Ed Huntress


Gray Ghost

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:27:18 AM11/10/09
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Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:9npif55mh3lab8gm4...@4ax.com:

Are you to stupid to distinguish between an arrest rate and a homicide rate?

Apparently.

You're a talk radio host? In Alabama? Must be subsidized.

tankfixer

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:09:56 AM11/10/09
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In article <a12if5l5p3rcj65jc...@4ax.com>,
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...


Truth is the person who claim it happened can't document that it did in
fact occure..
So he must be lying.. again

tankfixer

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:10:50 AM11/10/09
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In article <9nnif5hdkafn3ovam...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:53:12 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com>,
> >Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:02 -0800, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not to mention that many in the West were ex military, ex law
> >> >enforcement.....
> >>
> >> On the run from the law ....
> >>
> >> >while those in the East were chickenshits.
> >>
> >> Hence the East had to send military & Pinkertons ....
> >> And the sheriffs took away the guns when they went to town .
> >
> >Care to document how many towns that actually occured in ?
>
> Ask gummer about his Westerns ....

So you are backing away from your claim it happened all over the west ?

Lookout

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:22:29 AM11/10/09
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Which was given to you by SOCIAL security. You fucking socialist.

RD (The Sandman)

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:31:23 PM11/10/09
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Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:5dbhf5pbk85nvcvd2...@4ax.com:

In some towns, yes.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass
a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand
it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who
hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't
pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese
Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?

RD (The Sandman)

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:31:58 PM11/10/09
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Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
news:ctmhf5ts111vkktgv...@4ax.com:

Tombstone was one.

Michael A. Terrell

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Are you bragging?

pyotr filipivich

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:46:18 PM11/10/09
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I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Tue, 10 Nov 2009
02:58:06 -0800 in misc.survivalism:

"Don't let a good boy go bad." When the little bastard screws up
the _first_ time, it is the time to come down hard. Hang him if need
be. Those hanged for robbery don't go onto become murderers.

rangerssuck

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:21:13 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 8:12 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
wrote:

Yeah - Joe Walsh rocks - and he's certainly no chickenshit.

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:44:11 AM11/11/09
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Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:45:11 AM11/11/09
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You don't know any US history I gather.

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:46:21 AM11/11/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:09:29 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Lookout wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely correct.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> >> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>> >
>> >
>> > The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>> >generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>> >working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>> >Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>> >let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>> >or sent them to prison.
>>
>> Another liar.
>
>
> Are you bragging?

Gummer loves to lie.
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:24:25 AM11/11/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:27:18 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com (Gray
Ghost) wrote:

>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>news:9npif55mh3lab8gm4...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:40:37 -0800, pyotr filipivich
>> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> People in the west, say Dodge City, Kansas, were more intent on
>>>attending to business. They also tended to "have come a purpose" -
>>>they were where they were to make a better life.
>>
>> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>>
>> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston
>> police
>> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent
>> manslaughter) arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>>
>> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of
>> cities
>> today."
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>
>Are you to stupid to distinguish between an arrest rate and a homicide rate?
>
>Apparently.
>
>You're a talk radio host? In Alabama? Must be subsidized.

Why don't you check some actual facts for once?
Because to wingers lies are better than facts?
After all, saves thinking, right? And any lies
will do, right?
OTOH you don't have a program guide ... even
for Faux & Rush ...
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:26:11 AM11/11/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:46:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

That seems a bit harsh. Instead educate the wingers. Or at least
try to.
--
Cliff

tankfixer

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:50:04 PM11/11/09
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In article <XoGdnQ20iqbqJ2TX...@earthlink.com>,
mike.t...@earthlink.net says...

I think he is, he uses the word so much he must be use it as a reflex
from hearing it so often.

tankfixer

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:51:58 PM11/11/09
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In article <r0qif5lutcsvrajio...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...

>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hate to disappoint you dummy
> >But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
> >the US during the same period.
>
> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>
> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
> arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>
> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
> today."

apples and oranges..

> >Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>
>
> Wingers lie.

Yes, you do..

tankfixer

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:52:42 PM11/11/09
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In article <en8lf5ph5jspo6d3m...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...

I accept your surrender you whiny mangy democrat...

tankfixer

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:54:07 PM11/11/09
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In article <js8lf5l3e2tdp70t9...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...

So you are lying, figured as much.


> Found those "WMDs" yet?

One can always tell when a leftist has conceded the point, they toss out
a silly bush or wmd question..

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:09:44 PM11/11/09
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A limited vocabulary is often found in those of limited intelligence.
:(

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:20:35 PM11/11/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:51:58 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <r0qif5lutcsvrajio...@4ax.com>,
>Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hate to disappoint you dummy
>> >But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
>> >the US during the same period.
>>
>> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
>>
>> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
>> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
>> arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
>>
>> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
>> today."
>
>apples and oranges..

The homicide rate is an apple or an orange?

>> >Come back when you stop confusing Hollywood stories with the real world.
>>
>>
>> Wingers lie.
>
>Yes, you do..

I just cited the simple research.
You wingers lied.
Again.
As always.
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:21:35 PM11/11/09
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Your endless winger lies .... it's no wonder you run ...

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:24:08 PM11/11/09
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Found those "WMDs" yet?
Silly?
Two nations destroyed.
About a millon dead & 4 million homeless.
More then 3 trillion added to rethug & US taxpayer debts.

Silly?
--
Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:25:51 PM11/11/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:09:44 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>tankfixer wrote:
>>
>> In article <XoGdnQ20iqbqJ2TX...@earthlink.com>,
>> mike.t...@earthlink.net says...
>> >
>> > Lookout wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> > > <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Gunner Asch wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Absolutely correct.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I wonder..humm...could it have been because most people in the West were
>> > > >> armed..and in the East, far fewer were?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > The wimps wouldn't attempt to make the trip, and the liberals
>> > > >generally didn't survive the trip. The left the strong willed and hard
>> > > >working types to make the trip and care lives out of almost nothing.
>> > > >Life was rough, and they had to be the same to survive. They couldn't
>> > > >let a parasite run around stealing and killing, so they either shot them
>> > > >or sent them to prison.
>> > >
>> > > Another liar.
>> >
>> >
>> > Are you bragging?
>>
>> I think he is, he uses the word so much he must be use it as a reflex
>> from hearing it so often.
>
>
> A limited vocabulary is often found in those of limited intelligence.
>:(

Their reading comprehension skills aren't so hot either.
Logic & reasoning ones absent entirely.
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Cliff

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:54:07 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Found those "WMDs" yet?


>
> One can always tell when a leftist has conceded the point, they toss out
> a silly bush or wmd question..

Dismissing the deaths of hundreds of thousands, millions more homeless,
their infrastructure destroyed, their economy destroyed, their historical
treasures lost, their oil industry destroyed, their educational system
destroyed and you think that is a "silly bush or wmd question"?

Demanding responsibility of those who lied our nation into the invasion
of Iraq and Afghanistan is the polar opposite of "silly." It is
precisely what Republicans have been shouting for, what Conservatives
ostensibly believe in, what justice requires.

Do you think this is "silly"?

This is not a partisian issue. Republicans should be up in arms with
outrage at being lied to by your leaders, not covering up for the lying
scumbags. No, "War Criminals."

It is all I can do to remain silent about Obama refusing to turn Eric
Holder loose. Prosecutions must, eventually, proceed for lying America
into a dead-end, no-win, quandry that is sucking the very lifeblood of
our young and treasury.

And you think this is "silly"?

Conservatives and Republicans like to wrap themselves in the flag. Walk
the walk, your leaders shredded the Constitution with the "Patriot Act."
The entire Executive Branch and majority of the Legislative Branch should
be waterboarded 183 times and tried in a military tribunal.

And you think this is "silly"?

What part of a "Nation of Law" do you find "silly"? Do you also find
humor in the "Patriot Act"? The corruption that has turned America into
a Fascist state? How, precisely, is it "silly" to bring criminals to
trial?

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Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
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Cliff

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Nov 12, 2009, 5:26:17 AM11/12/09
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Indeed !!
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Cliff

Darrell Stec

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Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

> Found those "WMDs" yet?

Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
convinced they were found. It is a matter of faith, not logic or evidence.
I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that group and
they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in particular), FOX news
entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites to confirm their faith.

--
Later,
Darrell

Cliff

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:55:52 PM11/12/09
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I guess actually showing them to anybody never crossed their little minds,
had they existed.
What fools.
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Curly Surmudgeon

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::


>
>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>
> Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
> convinced they were found.

Because they refuse to provide an iota of evidence.

> It is a matter of faith, not logic or
> evidence. I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that
> group and they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in
> particular), FOX news entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites
> to confirm their faith.

You, too, should demand proof. Allowing lies to be perpetuated is not
good for anyone and allows the liars to skate. Holding people's feet to
the fire is a rational, reasonable, thing to do.

Especially when the lies are criminal and cost lives.

Darrell Stec

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Curly Surmudgeon inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>
>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>
>> Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
>> convinced they were found.
>
> Because they refuse to provide an iota of evidence.
>
>> It is a matter of faith, not logic or
>> evidence. I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that
>> group and they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in
>> particular), FOX news entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites
>> to confirm their faith.
>
> You, too, should demand proof. Allowing lies to be perpetuated is not
> good for anyone and allows the liars to skate. Holding people's feet to
> the fire is a rational, reasonable, thing to do.
>
> Especially when the lies are criminal and cost lives.
>


But nothing will dissuade them from the conviction that those media
constitute proof. They honestly believe they have provided evidence equal
to any assertion that no evidence for WMDs has been found.

--
Later,
Darrell

Darrell Stec

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Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>
>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>
>>Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
>>convinced they were found. It is a matter of faith, not logic or
>>evidence.
>>I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that group and
>>they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in particular), FOX news
>>entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites to confirm their faith.
>
> I guess actually showing them to anybody never crossed their little
> minds,
> had they existed.
> What fools.

But their physical evidence consists of destroyed parts which they claim
were created after the US invasion, not before. Remember the Bush
administration used the same tactic.

--
Later,
Darrell

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:50 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

Therefore we must repeatedly demand credible evidence every time this
issue arises or the wackos make similar outrageous claims. Yeah, it does
get repetitive and boring but the only alternative is to permit the lies
to be prepetuated without rebuttal. That implies that the claims are
true. We cannot permit that.

Cliff

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:25:38 AM11/13/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:24:26 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>>
>>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>>
>>>Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans are
>>>convinced they were found. It is a matter of faith, not logic or
>>>evidence.
>>>I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in that group and
>>>they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in particular), FOX news
>>>entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet sites to confirm their faith.
>>
>> I guess actually showing them to anybody never crossed their little
>> minds,
>> had they existed.
>> What fools.
>
>But their physical evidence consists of destroyed parts which they claim
>were created after the US invasion, not before. Remember the Bush
>administration used the same tactic.

What "parts"?
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Cliff

Cliff

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Then they are utterly psychotic.
Cages & rubber rooms, anyone?
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:28:33 AM11/13/09
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This sort of assumes that even a rock can learn. Or think
(in the usual sense of the humans).
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cliff

Darrell Stec

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Some years after the illegal invasion of Iraq, the US military found some
materials that could have been used for WMDs (or any number of other
things) which they claimed were discarded close to that time.

Other experts said the things were buried for years. don't have the
specifics at the time but do remember several conversations surrounding the
events.

I would think our resident Right Wingnuts would have pick up on this part of
the thread and chimed in with the "evidence".

--
Later,
Darrell

Darrell Stec

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Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:50 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Curly Surmudgeon inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:52 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cliff inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::
>>>>
>>>>> Found those "WMDs" yet?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you keep asking that question? Conservatives and Republicans
>>>> are convinced they were found.
>>>
>>> Because they refuse to provide an iota of evidence.
>>>
>>>> It is a matter of faith, not logic or
>>>> evidence. I'm serious. I have friends and acquaintances who are in
>>>> that group and they cite talk show hosts (one obese drug felon in
>>>> particular), FOX news entertainers, newspaper articles or Internet
>>>> sites to confirm their faith.
>>>
>>> You, too, should demand proof. Allowing lies to be perpetuated is not
>>> good for anyone and allows the liars to skate. Holding people's feet to
>>> the fire is a rational, reasonable, thing to do.
>>>
>>> Especially when the lies are criminal and cost lives.
>>>
>>
>>
>>But nothing will dissuade them from the conviction that those media
>>constitute proof. They honestly believe they have provided evidence equal
>>to any assertion that no evidence for WMDs has been found.
>
> Then they are utterly psychotic.

You discuss issues with these types of people every day here on aat. Should
there ever be any question?


> Cages & rubber rooms, anyone?

--
Later,
Darrell

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:02:04 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

No, there should be no question however many newbies pass through and the
venom and bile used to shove their superstition and lies upon others can
be convincing to the unaware.

Demanding that they provide proof of these outrageous claims negates
their ability to confuse the ignorant.

>> Cages & rubber rooms, anyone?

Their minds are self-inflicted cages.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:32:56 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:59:51 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

If recollection serves a total of four 1980's era chemical warheads were
found in refuse dumps. While still toxic the ingredients had
deteriorated such that they were worthless as a weapon.

> Other experts said the things were buried for years. don't have the
> specifics at the time but do remember several conversations surrounding
> the events.

The vast majority of WMD's in Iraq are from the United States, white
phosphorus which has incinerated civilians and depleted uranium which is
the gift that keeps on giving. Not only to adult Iraqis but a soaring
incidence of birth defects, Gulf War Syndrome and birth defects in
children born to American soldiers after exposure:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/95178_du12.shtml
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1777
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2374
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Health_considerations

> I would think our resident Right Wingnuts would have pick up on this
> part of the thread and chimed in with the "evidence".

There is no evidence of WMD's in Iraq nor that Saddam Hussein transported
the claimed 500,000 liters of chemical and biological agents, 2,000
modified delivery SCUD's, 5,000 arial drones or nuclear devices anywhere.

The Bush Administration was aware that none existed but filtered out all
contrary evidence to frighten Congress and the American people into
giving Cheney carte blanc to wage undeclared war on a sovereign nation
which did not threaten America.

The only possible explanation is that he lusted petroleum, the same
reason we are in Afghanistan.

Darrell Stec

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:59:03 PM11/13/09
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Curly Surmudgeon inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

>> I would think our resident Right Wingnuts would have pick up on this
>> part of the thread and chimed in with the "evidence".
>
> There is no evidence of WMD's in Iraq nor that Saddam Hussein transported
> the claimed 500,000 liters of chemical and biological agents, 2,000
> modified delivery SCUD's, 5,000 arial drones or nuclear devices anywhere.
>

I agree. I was hoping are local wingnut residents here would jump in with a
link to these claims so we could critic the "evidence". (Heck, I use to
like dissecting paramecium too.)

--
Later,
Darrell

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:59:03 -0500, Darrell Stec <dar...@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> Curly Surmudgeon inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

I humiliated Jim Alder for making the assertion that Saddam sent them to
Iran. We traded over a dozen posts where he evaded and squirmed yet
continued to reiterate the same bullshit while refusing a single cite.

Humiliation is too good for those who support lies which brought America
to this series of catastrophes and potentially the dissolution of the
Union. The wackos continue to make the same bullshit claims as if
Hitlers "Big Lie" will take hold. Today though we have the WWW and
excellent search engines which make it pretty easy to prove or disprove
points of contention.

Humiliate the bastards.

tankfixer

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In article <p2lmf59boqf1u16a1...@4ax.com>,
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...

>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:51:58 -0800, tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <r0qif5lutcsvrajio...@4ax.com>,
> >Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:06:41 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hate to disappoint you dummy
> >> >But the so-called Wild West was far safer than the gun-free East Coast of
> >> >the US during the same period.
> >>
> >> http://www.guncite.com/wild_west_myth.html
> >>
> >> "From 1880 through 1882 Boston had a murder and manslaughter (Boston police
> >> did not consistently distinguish between negligent and negligent manslaughter)
> >> arrest rate of only 3.8, while Salem recorded a 0.0"
> >>
> >> "Dodge City a homicide rate of 50, a rate exceeded by only a handful of cities
> >> today."
> >
> >apples and oranges..
>
> The homicide rate is an apple or an orange?

you are the moron comparing arrest rates with homicide rates..

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