Trayvon Martin Killing Lead Prosecutor Says George Zimmerman Could Walk

[Pattycake Politics]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-killing-lead-prosecutor-
george-zimmerman-walk/story?id=16000239#.T3BJZ2Egdnc

The nationwide clamor for an arrest notwithstanding, the lead
prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case tells ABC News that
convicting his killer, the neighborhood watch volunteer George
Zimmerman, could prove difficult.

"The stand-your-ground law is one portion of justifiable use of
deadly force," veteran State Attorney Angela Corey said. "And
what that means is that the state must go forward and be able to
prove it's case beyond a reasonable doubt… So it makes the case
in general more difficult than a normal criminal case."

Zimmerman shot Martin dead the night of Feb. 26, after following
him for several minutes. Zimmerman told police Martin looked
suspicious because he was wearing a hoodie, and when he
confronted him the two fought -- ultimately resulting in a
single bullet in Martin's chest.

Trayvon Martin Case: Timeline of Events

Zimmerman claimed self defense all along, and this weekend the
lawyer counseling him, Craig Sonner, told ABC News that he was
likely to invoke Florida's controversial stand-your-ground law
in his defense.

The law affords people enormous leeway to use deadly force if
they feel their life is seriously endangered. Sonner said
Zimmerman felt "one of them was going to die that night," when
he pulled the trigger.

Corey, a veteran prosecutor known for her zealous defense of
victims rights was hand-picked by Florida Gov. Rick Scott for
the job. But she faces other challenges in the case.

While in life Trayvon Martin was barely 17, when it comes to
justifiable homicide his size -- about 6-foot-3 and 150 pounds --
makes him an adult in death.

But with the Department of Justice and the FBI investigating
this case as a possible hate crime, Corey might want to pursue
that as well.

"So it would depend on which charge if any we're able to file,"
she said. "Before we would be able to determine, one, if this is
a hate crime, and two, whether or not that would enhance the
crime."

Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford
Police Department is accused of bungling. Possible police
missteps include failing to administer a toxicology exam on
Zimmerman, not impounding his car, and failing to contact key
witnesses -- like Martin's girlfriend, who was talking to the
teen by cell phone and heard most of the scuffle with Zimmerman
unfold.

ABC News has learned there is tremendous pressure from local and
state authorities for an arrest.

Corey said parts of the investigation might only take a few more
days to complete but charges, if they ever come, could be weeks
away.

[Trayvon Hater]

With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.

I do.

It's God's holy will.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z...
an-03232012

[Juan Hungloe]

An armed society is a polite society. If young,straight A student and
aspiring brain surgeon Trayvon had known the white mexxkin was packing
heat I doubt he would've jumped him and he'd still be alive today to
wear his hoodie,listen to cop killer gangsta rap,wear his pants around
his ankles and do his best to look like and act like an NBA ball
player/felon.

[Gray Guest]

Juan Hungloe <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:591a7111-d73d-4d80-
8256-4ab...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:

You forgot smoke pot and do B&E's. He was busted with women's jewelry and
burglar tools at school.

No great loss to the world.

--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.

What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.

http://nukeitfromorbit.com/

[de...@dudu.org]

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
<hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
>> dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
>> year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.
>>
>> I do.
>>
>> It's God's holy will.
>>
>> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z...
>> an-03232012
>
>An armed society is a polite society.

Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
rates, not lower ones.

[Juan Hungloe]

On Mar 26, 8:41 pm, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
>

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PROVE IT !!

[Harold Burton]

In article
<8c5a8088-7010-48d3...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

Trayvon Hater <kin...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
> dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
> year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.

Only because you're an idiot. Thanks for admitting that.



snicker

[Harold Burton]

In article <ok62n75nl07f09lpc...@4ax.com>, de...@dudu.org
wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
> >> dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
> >> year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.
> >>
> >> I do.
> >>
> >> It's God's holy will.
> >>
> >> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z...
> >> an-03232012
> >
> >An armed society is a polite society.
>
> Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
> accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
> rates, not lower ones.

Ah, 'nother librul proof by assertion.

I can top that. Easy accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead
to lower murder rates, not higher ones.


I like this game.


snicker

[Gunner Asch]

Then the 3 yr olds will be safe from you paedophiles, wont they?

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Just sayin'...

-RFH

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:ok62n75nl07f09lpc...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
>>> dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
>>> year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.
>>>
>>> I do.
>>>
>>> It's God's holy will.
>>>
>>> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z...
>>> an-03232012
>>
>>An armed society is a polite society.
>
> Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
> accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
> rates, not lower ones.

Is that why the murder rate of Switzerland is one of the lowest in Europe?

Because of the easy accessibility to lots of weapons?

Anyway, I await your proof that accessibility to lots of weapons always
leads to higher murder rates.

----> Insert your proof here.

[Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names]

Switzerland is not the example you assholes want to use.

Switzerland has a very small full-time military with the bulk of the
armed forces being reservists who keep their military weapons and
equipment in their homes.

This fact leads you loony gunnuts to conclude that Swiss society is
armed to the teeth.

That's a lie.

While the firearms are kept at home, AMMUNITION IS MAINTAINED IN
CENTRAL ARMORIES. Furthermore, Swiss reservists are not permitted to
use their weapons for anything except military training, with severe
penalties if they violate this prohibition.

How do I know this??

1. My paternal grandparents were Swiss immigrants and I maintain
contact with distant cousins in Switzerland. Went to visit them a few
years ago and asked them about this very matter.

2. During my time at Fort Leavenworth, one of my colleagues was a
Swiss lieutenant colonel who turned out to be a distant relative. He
explained the system to me and to others.

Switzerland has a very low murder rate because firearms are controlled
tightly and because the Swiss are basically decent people, unpolluted
by radical rightwingers and biblethumpers.

[Scout]

"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b3l3n7tbeiegi4etm...@6ax.com...

> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:11:29 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>><de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
>>news:ok62n75nl07f09lpc...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
>>> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31 million
>>>>> dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully armed three-
>>>>> year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout this country.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's God's holy will.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z...
>>>>> an-03232012
>>>>
>>>>An armed society is a polite society.
>>>
>>> Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
>>> accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
>>> rates, not lower ones.
>>
>>Is that why the murder rate of Switzerland is one of the lowest in Europe?
>>
>>Because of the easy accessibility to lots of weapons?
>>
>>Anyway, I await your proof that accessibility to lots of weapons always
>>leads to higher murder rates.
>>
>>----> Insert your proof here.
>>
>
>
> Switzerland is not the example you assholes want to use.

Why? Because it shows exactly the opposite of what Dudu claims?

> Switzerland has a very small full-time military with the bulk of the
> armed forces being reservists who keep their military weapons and
> equipment in their homes.

Right, so people have access to a lot of weapons.

Means the murder rate should be very very high according to Dudu's claim,
right?

> This fact leads you loony gunnuts to conclude that Swiss society is
> armed to the teeth.

Actually it is.

> That's a lie.
>
> While the firearms are kept at home, AMMUNITION IS MAINTAINED IN
> CENTRAL ARMORIES. Furthermore, Swiss reservists are not permitted to
> use their weapons for anything except military training, with severe
> penalties if they violate this prohibition.

The military keeps their ammo there now, but private citizens can buy all
the ammo they want, and even can buy subsidized ammo at the range, though
that is suppose to be used there, but there are no real controls to make
sure it is.

Further this doesn't even count personal weapons they may have as well.

[de...@dudu.org]

No, because you are comparing apples and oranges dumbass. Another
problem you have with your comparison is Switzerland is a very
homogenious population with a very socialistic government, so
obviously they would have lower crime rates for other reasons you
don't seem to understand.

>
>> Switzerland has a very small full-time military with the bulk of the
>> armed forces being reservists who keep their military weapons and
>> equipment in their homes.
>
>Right, so people have access to a lot of weapons.
>
>Means the murder rate should be very very high according to Dudu's claim,
>right?

You're an idiot.

>
>
>> This fact leads you loony gunnuts to conclude that Swiss society is
>> armed to the teeth.
>
>Actually it is.
>
>> That's a lie.
>>
>> While the firearms are kept at home, AMMUNITION IS MAINTAINED IN
>> CENTRAL ARMORIES. Furthermore, Swiss reservists are not permitted to
>> use their weapons for anything except military training, with severe
>> penalties if they violate this prohibition.
>
>The military keeps their ammo there now, but private citizens can buy all
>the ammo they want, and even can buy subsidized ammo at the range, though
>that is suppose to be used there, but there are no real controls to make
>sure it is.
>
>Further this doesn't even count personal weapons they may have as well.

They are a very small country with a population in which pretty much
everyone is related at least within a few generations. They also have
a socialist government so there is very little if any poverty. So
once again you display the ability to provide a nonrepresentative
sample.

[TiredOfTrayvon]

On Mar 27, 11:10 am, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:10:02 -0400, "Scout"
>
>
>
>
>

> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:b3l3n7tbeiegi4etm...@6ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:11:29 -0400, "Scout"

> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message

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They also aren't plagued with the pestilence we call niggers.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in
news:XnsA022DB7E36819We...@88.198.244.100:

> Juan Hungloe <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:591a7111-d73d-4d80-
> 8256-4ab...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31
>>> million dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully
>>> armed three- year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout
>>> this country.
>>>
>>> I do.
>>>
>>> It's God's holy will.
>>>
>>> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z
>>> ... an-03232012
>>
>> An armed society is a polite society. If young,straight A student and
>> aspiring brain surgeon Trayvon had known the white mexxkin was
>> packing heat I doubt he would've jumped him and he'd still be alive
>> today to wear his hoodie,listen to cop killer gangsta rap,wear his
>> pants around his ankles and do his best to look like and act like an
>> NBA ball player/felon.
>>
>
> You forgot smoke pot and do B&E's. He was busted with women's jewelry
> and burglar tools at school.

Where in hell did that come from? He was suspended from school for MJ
deposits in a bag in his book bag.

--

My favorite animal: Steak!


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:ok62n75nl07f09lpc...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Juan Hungloe
> <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 26, 3:12 pm, Trayvon Hater <kink...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> With assistance from the National Rifle Association and its 31
>>> million dumb-as-a-dog-turd members, l foresee the time when fully
>>> armed three- year-olds will have Stand-Your-Ground rights throughout
>>> this country.
>>>
>>> I do.
>>>
>>> It's God's holy will.
>>>
>>> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-z
>>> ... an-03232012
>>
>>An armed society is a polite society.
>
> Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
> accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
> rates, not lower ones.

When are you turning yours in, for society's sake? Do it for the
children.

[Berry Oakley]

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
news:XnsA0236BFE3...@216.196.121.131...

^^^^^


Grey Ghost/guest is kinda odd.

[de...@dudu.org]

Nope, I'm just going to hang out and defend my children until all the
rest of you kill each other. Then when the trash has been taken out,
then life can eventually return to normal.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:10:02 -0400, "Scout"

The militia actually is allowed to keep 150 rds with the weapon.

Still

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:9cp3n7pn4rgdarjf8...@4ax.com:

So is Russia (both homogenous and socialistic) and their homicide rate is
rather high. Is that for reasons you do or do not understand?

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:uav3n7hab381eqm6r...@4ax.com:

BTW, as for the rest of your statement....that more guns always mean
higher murder rates, why is Russia so high per Nationmaster?

Look at this chart for total crime:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime

Look at this one for homicides:

http://tinyurl.com/6x4pmk


Or you can look here at another source comparing crime to freedom:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1090441

[Gunner Asch]

Bring up the stats for Mexico..where virtually all firearms are banned.

Much..much higher murder rate than Russia

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA0236BFE3...@216.196.121.131:

I don't know this site but it was among the first to come up in a search.

I read this on several news/commentary cites last few days.

http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealing-gangbanger/

I have a feeling the truth about this kid is really not going to do his
defenders any good. It appears he was just another punk on his way to a
career in the FL legal system.

[Gray Guest]

"Ramon F. Herrera" <conco...@gmail.com> wrote in news:da8914f8-6ad4-4975-
963b-240...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

>
> Just sayin'...
>
> -RFH
>

Cool, could I get you to riot near my house? Pretty please?

Just sayin'...

I strongly expect people are NOT going to be as passive as they were during
the Rodney King riots.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:19:12 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:

>"Ramon F. Herrera" <conco...@gmail.com> wrote in news:da8914f8-6ad4-4975-
>963b-240...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>>
>> Just sayin'...
>>
>> -RFH
>>
>
>Cool, could I get you to riot near my house? Pretty please?
>
>Just sayin'...
>
>I strongly expect people are NOT going to be as passive as they were during
>the Rodney King riots.

Not even in California.

<VBG>

Get some riots started this summer..and the body count will go up like
an ICBM

Gunner

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:9cp3n7pn4rgdarjf8...@4ax.com...

Let's see, what is being compared. Your claim concerning the the
availability of weapons with high murder rates.

I produce a real world example and ask you to explain why it doesn't agree
with your claim.

Where is the apples and oranges comparison you refer to?

> Another
> problem you have with your comparison is Switzerland is a very
> homogenious population with a very socialistic government, so
> obviously they would have lower crime rates for other reasons you
> don't seem to understand.

So, are you claiming that crime rates are NOT about the availability of
weapons, but rather a matter of demographics and politics?

If so, then that means your assertion concerning weapon availability and
murder rates is utterly wrong.

Further, you clearly knew it was wrong, so that means you lied.

>
>>
>>> Switzerland has a very small full-time military with the bulk of the
>>> armed forces being reservists who keep their military weapons and
>>> equipment in their homes.
>>
>>Right, so people have access to a lot of weapons.
>>
>>Means the murder rate should be very very high according to Dudu's claim,
>>right?
>
> You're an idiot.

Translation: Ouch!

>>> This fact leads you loony gunnuts to conclude that Swiss society is
>>> armed to the teeth.
>>
>>Actually it is.
>>
>>> That's a lie.
>>>
>>> While the firearms are kept at home, AMMUNITION IS MAINTAINED IN
>>> CENTRAL ARMORIES. Furthermore, Swiss reservists are not permitted to
>>> use their weapons for anything except military training, with severe
>>> penalties if they violate this prohibition.
>>
>>The military keeps their ammo there now, but private citizens can buy all
>>the ammo they want, and even can buy subsidized ammo at the range, though
>>that is suppose to be used there, but there are no real controls to make
>>sure it is.
>>
>>Further this doesn't even count personal weapons they may have as well.
>
> They are a very small country with a population in which pretty much
> everyone is related at least within a few generations. They also have
> a socialist government so there is very little if any poverty. So
> once again you display the ability to provide a nonrepresentative
> sample.

Thus Dudu admits he lied when he claimed that weapon availability means high
murder rates.

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:uav3n7hab381eqm6r...@4ax.com...

So basically you are a part of a murderous society and would prefer to
continue such a society rather than give up your arms.

Oh, and I strongly doubt you have any children given you are a high school
senior.

[Scout]

"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA0238AA48...@216.196.121.131...

Careful RD, he will assert you're comparing apples and oranges and start
trying to invent excuses about how it's a matter of demographics and
political systems and so on.

[RD Sandman]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:l2k4n7t7vbvjuof0g...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:37:42 -0500, RD Sandman
> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>An armed society is a polite society.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, an armed society is a murderous society. The easy
>>>>> accessibility to lots of weapons has always lead to higher murder
>>>>> rates, not lower ones.
>>>>
>>>>When are you turning yours in, for society's sake? Do it for the
>>>>children.
>>>
>>> Nope, I'm just going to hang out and defend my children until all the
>>> rest of you kill each other. Then when the trash has been taken out,
>>> then life can eventually return to normal.
>>>
>>
>>BTW, as for the rest of your statement....that more guns always mean
>>higher murder rates, why is Russia so high per Nationmaster?
>>
>>Look at this chart for total crime:
>>
>>http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime
>>
>>Look at this one for homicides:
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/6x4pmk
>>
>>
>>Or you can look here at another source comparing crime to freedom:
>>
>>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1090441
>
> Bring up the stats for Mexico..where virtually all firearms are banned.
>
> Much..much higher murder rate than Russia

Yep, as is Jamaica but Dudu is a socialist not a Hispanic. That is why I
chose Russia.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA023CF6E9D3CCWe...@88.198.244.100:

That could be. The latest is that the jewelry can't be tied to any crime.
They don't know where it came from or how Trayvon ended up with it.

[de...@dudu.org]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

fuck me, did I mention you were really stupid?

At least for a short time longer. Then you will be dead.

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:h6l6n7pvupnq3hbsq...@4ax.com...

Threatening my life are you?

You do realize that is a federal offense given you are doing so across state
lines and over the internet?

[de...@dudu.org]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:48:22 -0400, "Scout"

thanks for proving once again you have no intellectual ability to
grasp the concept of statistical sampling.

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:h6l6n7pvupnq3hbsq...@4ax.com:

By whose hand? Yours......????? ROFLMAO!!!!!!

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:dql6n7t6m5uqolajf...@4ax.com...

So you are claiming that the validity of your claim depends on "statistical
sampling"???

ROFLMAO...

Oh, please present your global statistical sampling which shows that every
country with high availability of weapons also has a high murder rate.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02461FD1...@216.196.121.131:

Yeah. Hypothosize. Why would a 17 year old boy have "several" pieces of
women's jewelery?

[Harold Burton]

In article <XnsA024D264328A4We...@88.198.244.100>,

robbery, or burglary, comes to mind.



snicker

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA024D264328A4We...@88.198.244.100:

He's gay? Has a friend who is gay? Stole it? Bought it?

[RD Sandman]

Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-03C0...@news.newsguy.com:

However, the police have found no tie to it, so it apparently didn't
match any known jewelry that had been reported stolen.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02563883...@216.196.121.131:

A picture is emerging that is not flattering.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02563C6C...@216.196.121.131:

I'm not convinced that means anything. Residential burglary is quite common
and one of the least solved property crimes. Unless you catch them in the
act or they leave enough trace behind. Of course with trace you have to
have something to compare it to.

And who knows, some people may not have much occasion to wear their jewlery
and may not notice it missing for a long time.

In any case Martin had a lame explanation which sounded a lot like the dog
ate my homework.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA025E3E80C31EWe...@88.198.244.100:

To whom?

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA025E47B71A97We...@88.198.244.100:

Which is why I wait before I make my judgements. You may have noticed
that I have not picked a side to be on.

[Berry Oakley]

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
news:XnsA02662AA8...@216.196.121.131...

^^^^

It was BUSH!
Er, no... That Obese Governor from California!

[RD Sandman]

"Berry Oakley" <Allmanb...@bass.gov> wrote in news:4f75e8a4$0$20066
$607e...@cv.net:

Oh, no.....not the Governator!!!

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA026626AF...@216.196.121.131:

Of whom. Hey, there is way more evidence that Martin was a thug than that
Zimmerman hunted Martin down and killed him like a dog.

Of course all the left has jumped to a conclusion and demenaded that
Zimmerman be executed without a trial. I'm just saying keep an open mind.
And that what IS out ther is not painting picture of an Altar Boy on his
way to Mass.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02662AA8...@216.196.121.131:

In this case I feel Zimmerman needs a bit more advocacy since people are
already calling for him to be killed without a trial.

[Jeff M]

On 3/30/2012 8:01 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
[snip]

>>> A picture is emerging that is not flattering.
>>>
>> To whom?
>>
> Of whom. Hey, there is way more evidence that Martin was a thug than that
> Zimmerman hunted Martin down and killed him like a dog.

There is NO evidence that Martin was a "thug." He has no criminal
record, and his minor scrapes at school were entirely non-violent.

There is evidence that Zimmerman engages in inappropriate violence, from
his arrest record for battery on a police officer and his injunction
against domestic violence.

> Of course all the left has jumped to a conclusion and demenaded that
> Zimmerman be executed without a trial.

Cites?

> I'm just saying keep an open mind.
> And that what IS out ther is not painting picture of an Altar Boy on his
> way to Mass.

He doesn't have to be an Alter Boy, and the increasingly accurate
picture of him that I think is emerging is of an everyday teenage
high=-school boy preparing for college, and not without a few marks
against him. The Rabid Right, however, seems to be unable to accept the
rather banal image.

Instead, they have gone so far as hacking his Facebook and Twitter
accounts, and circulating pictures of similar-looking kids throwing gang
signs or whatever, as if they were pictures of Treyvon. Obviously, this
is a malicious but ultimately lame attempt to portray him as the
"menacing black thug" archetype of their racist fears, and posthumously
smear and cynically blame the victim for his own homicide.

[Harold Burton]

In article <oZ6dndZ3p9GIwevS...@giganews.com>,

Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:

> On 3/30/2012 8:01 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >>> A picture is emerging that is not flattering.
> >>>
> >> To whom?
> >>
> > Of whom. Hey, there is way more evidence that Martin was a thug than that
> > Zimmerman hunted Martin down and killed him like a dog.
>
> There is NO evidence that Martin was a "thug." He has no criminal
> record,

nor does Zimmerman.

> and his minor scrapes at school were entirely non-violent.

Love that "minor scrapes"

> There is evidence that Zimmerman engages in inappropriate violence, from
> his arrest record for battery on a police officer and his injunction
> against domestic violence.
>
>
> > Of course all the left has jumped to a conclusion and demenaded that
> > Zimmerman be executed without a trial.
>
> Cites?

You don't read these newsgroups?


snicker

[Scout]

"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
news:oZ6dndZ3p9GIwevS...@giganews.com...

> On 3/30/2012 8:01 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> [snip]
>
>>>> A picture is emerging that is not flattering.
>>>>
>>> To whom?
>>>
>> Of whom. Hey, there is way more evidence that Martin was a thug than that
>> Zimmerman hunted Martin down and killed him like a dog.
>
> There is NO evidence that Martin was a "thug." He has no criminal record,
> and his minor scrapes at school were entirely non-violent.

Please cite your source that he has no juvenile criminal record.

After all, we know he was caught will illegal drugs, and schools are pretty
good about calling in the police on that, and the police are pretty good
about following up on that with charges.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA026D5D7F9335We...@88.198.244.100:

Actually, there is not much evidence in either case.

> Of course all the left has jumped to a conclusion and demenaded that
> Zimmerman be executed without a trial.

They usually do.

I'm just saying keep an open
> mind.

I am and have one. I have not made up my mind yet. I don't think that
Zimmerman should be summarily arrested, however, I don't believe he is
necessarily covered under "stand your ground" either. I want to see more
information from reliable sources, not blogs, not the Huffington Post or
the Daily Kos. I will watch several sources as I have been doing like
the NY Times, LA Times, Miami Herald, Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinal, Palm
Beach Post, CNN, Fox News, etc...

And that what IS out ther is not painting picture of an Altar
> Boy on his way to Mass.

Of of a Neighborhood Watch captain (self proclaimed) simply reporting to
the police via 911 with a description.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA026D60D67FAEWe...@88.198.244.100:

That I can agree on, however, what I would love to do with those calling
for his death without a trial is to put them on a spit over a fire and
put it on slow roll until the flesh falls off the bone. Other than
that....

In times like this we tend to forget one of the tenets this country is
based on. One is considered innocent until *proven* guilty.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA0275EC6F...@216.196.121.131:

Is stand your ground involved at all? I thought it was for home defense, a
variation on castle law.

Look, it's prett6y simple. From the witness statements it's pretty clear
Zim was not the aggressor. If Zim's injuries are consistent with his story,
it puts Martin into a very bad light as the aggressor.

The only real issue becomes if Zim should have considered Martin an issue.
Given Martin's behavior, yes, he was. Normal citizens don't jimp people and
bash thier head's into the concrete.

> information from reliable sources, not blogs, not the Huffington Post or
> the Daily Kos. I will watch several sources as I have been doing like
> the NY Times, LA Times, Miami Herald, Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinal, Palm
> Beach Post, CNN, Fox News, etc...
>
> And that what IS out ther is not painting picture of an Altar
>> Boy on his way to Mass.
>
> Of of a Neighborhood Watch captain (self proclaimed) simply reporting to
> the police via 911 with a description.
>
>
>



--

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02763BE0...@216.196.121.131:

Sounds like quite an afternoon... 8)

>
> In times like this we tend to forget one of the tenets this country is
> based on. One is considered innocent until *proven* guilty.

You and I haven't forgotten. The screeching and mentally deranged and/or or
morally contempible have.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA02782726CDB1We...@88.198.244.100:

They are different. Castle law applies in the home. Stand your ground
simply puts in writing that there is no duty to retreat when confronted.
It could be in the home, in your car in the case of a carjacking, for
example, on the street as long as you are not the initiator...

> Look, it's prett6y simple. From the witness statements it's pretty
> clear Zim was not the aggressor.

Hmmmm, I have not seen or heard any witness statement as to who started
the fight or the initial confrontation. The main witness in Zimmerman's
case is "John" who says he saw them wrestling on the ground with the
Martin on top....he went upstairs to call 911 and when he looked out the
window, Martin was dead.

If Zim's injuries are consistent with
> his story, it puts Martin into a very bad light as the aggressor.

It could but not necessarily the initiator.

> The only real issue becomes if Zim should have considered Martin an
> issue. Given Martin's behavior, yes, he was. Normal citizens don't
> jimp people and bash thier head's into the concrete.

Normal people carrying iced tea and Skittles don't get followed either.
It is a mixed neighborhood. Almost half the neighborhood is white while
the rest are mixed. Ergo, the site of a man (black or anything else)
walking along a sidewalk should not have raised any alarms. So something
set off Zimmerman. Was it an action? Or a color? Or what? I don't
know. Some want to make it racist, some want to place suspicious actions
on Martin. I want to hear real testimony.

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA0276DA2E...@216.196.121.131:

Well if it was raining and dark and Martin had his hoodie up, I'm not
entirely sure how Zimm could have even known Martin's race in the first
place.

Of course figuring President Jugears's and the screeching left's accuracy
rating, I'm positive that Martin is probably a serial killer/rapist and
that Zimm was the altar boy. But that's just perception. 8)

[Gunner Asch]

Indeed.

Ive known guys both in and out of law enforcement with a "nose" for
crime. I myself when serving as a cop, would be on patrol and have a
car pass me going the other direction..and I would smell booze. Closed
windows and heater running. And Id spin around and follow..and
yes..would ultimately find the driver had a BA over the legal limit.
Even today as a civilian..Ill get the same "smell of booze" and find the
driver to be driving under the influence by watching/following and Ill
call it in. ( I have a real..real..problem with drunk drivers..explained
here once, long time ago)

There are indeed some folks who can "smell" criminals.

Is Zimmerman one of them? Shrug...who knows. But waiting for the
courts to settle this is proper.

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

[Groksplynk]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:19:12 +0000, Gray Guest - whined, cried and carried
on like an moronic 8 year old little girl and bashed out this crap on its
keyboard:

> "Ramon F. Herrera" <conco...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:da8914f8-6ad4-4975-
> 963b-240...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> Just sayin'...
>>
>> -RFH
>>
>>
> Cool, could I get you to riot near my house? Pretty please?
>
> Just sayin'...
>
> I strongly expect people are NOT going to be as passive as they were
> during the Rodney King riots.

+1. I for one will not sit by and let anyone get away with 'rioting'
anywhere near here. If the animals can't handle that they're animals and
have to riot all because they're too stupid to think a nigger can do no
wrong, then they don't deserve to live amongst decent people.



--
A good raghead, is a dead raghead.

[RD Sandman]

Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in

news:XnsA02790F9B6076We...@88.198.244.100:

I don't know if he did. He didn't say anything about it until the 911
operator asked him. Then he said he looked black and then a bit later
said he was black. I could assume that Martin looked around and that is
when Zimmerman saw his color. Not all of this took place on a street
sidewalk. I saw one newscast where they showed where it happened and
that was a curving sidewalk between homes and in a "green space" not
next to a road. Apparently, Martin was within 70 yards of where he was
headed.

> Of course figuring President Jugears's and the screeching left's
> accuracy rating, I'm positive that Martin is probably a serial
> killer/rapist and that Zimm was the altar boy. But that's just
> perception. 8)
>



--

[RD Sandman]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:uqjen7tah180pt4fo...@4ax.com:

As someone I know says, "Ayup". ;)

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:45:32 -0700
typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>
>>Normal people carrying iced tea and Skittles don't get followed either.
>>It is a mixed neighborhood. Almost half the neighborhood is white while
>>the rest are mixed. Ergo, the site of a man (black or anything else)
>>walking along a sidewalk should not have raised any alarms. So something
>>set off Zimmerman. Was it an action? Or a color? Or what? I don't
>>know. Some want to make it racist, some want to place suspicious actions
>>on Martin. I want to hear real testimony.
>>
>Indeed.
>
>Ive known guys both in and out of law enforcement with a "nose" for
>crime. I myself when serving as a cop, would be on patrol and have a
>car pass me going the other direction..and I would smell booze. Closed
>windows and heater running. And Id spin around and follow..and
>yes..would ultimately find the driver had a BA over the legal limit.
>Even today as a civilian..Ill get the same "smell of booze" and find the
>driver to be driving under the influence by watching/following and Ill
>call it in. ( I have a real..real..problem with drunk drivers..explained
>here once, long time ago)
>
>There are indeed some folks who can "smell" criminals.

I knew a guy who was an Ace at home security issues. Possibly due
to some previous career experience....
--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!

[Gray Guest]

RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in

news:XnsA02781FC7...@216.196.121.131:

That makes him a dumbass for not sprinting there, then. 70 yards is
notbing. A healthy 17 yo should have been able to outrun Zim in a flash.

Another circumstantial fact that doesn't help Martin.

>
>> Of course figuring President Jugears's and the screeching left's
>> accuracy rating, I'm positive that Martin is probably a serial
>> killer/rapist and that Zimm was the altar boy. But that's just
>> perception. 8)
>>
>
>
>



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