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Too_Many_Tools

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:20:52 PM11/24/09
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Any suggestions?

I mean besides anal probing, waterboarding, shooting friends in the
face, choking on pretzels, foot tapping in bathroom stalls and seeing
Russia from your porch. ;<)

I notice that the Taliban would qualify as Republicans.

TMT

Republicans considering ideological purity test for candidates
Tue Nov 24, 3:57 pm ET

Ten members of the Republican National Committee are proposing a
resolution demanding candidates embrace at least eight of 10
conservative principles if they hope to receive financial support and
an official endorsement from the RNC. The "Proposed RNC Resolution on
Reagan's Unity Principle for Support of Candidates," is designed to
force candidates to prove that they support "conservative principles"
while opposing "Obama's socialist agenda," according to The New York
Times' Caucus blog. The proposal highlights the ongoing tug-of-war for
the ideological soul of the Republican party, and has been met with
skepticism both inside and outside of the party.

Some are speculating that the move was inspired by the GOP’s recent
loss in New York's 23rd House race, a seat the party had held since
the 1800s. That contest saw Dede Scozzafava, a moderate Republican
endorsed by the RNC, driven out of the race in favor of Doug Hoffman,
a more conservative candidate backed by the likes of Glenn Beck and
Sarah Palin. After Scozzafava dropped out of the race, the RNC
endorsed Hoffman, who went on to lose to the Democratic candidate,
Bill Owens.

James Bopp Jr., an Indiana attorney, initiated the resolution, saying
that "conservatives have lost trust in the Republican party." Bopp
Jr., who floated a failed proposal earlier this year demanding that
Democrats rename their party the "Democrat Socialist Party," was
joined by 10 RNC co-sponsors. The group says they cited Ronald Reagan
in naming the resolution because the former president said that
"someone who agreed with him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his
opponent." The ten guidelines, distributed to RNC members in recent
weeks, are as follows:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower
deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus"
bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style
government run healthcare;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade
legislation;

(4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American
society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-
recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly
effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing
health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding
of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government
restrictions on gun ownership;

(11) We support the right of every Republican to make an ass of
themselves...just checking to see if you are paying attention ;<).

Predictably, the proposed resolution has elicited derision from all
corners of the political spectrum, including the right wing. In
criticizing the proposal, conservative blogger Erick Erickson says
that Republicans "risk giving liberal candidates easy opportunities to
get conservative endorsements simply by checking the box without ever
meaning it," adding that the measure is essentially hollow because the
"GOP cannot live up to its own platform adopted at a national
convention, it sure as heck won’t live up to any pledge put forward by
a group of RNC committeemen."

Meanwhile, liberal blogger Steve Benen wonders if Reagan himself would
even pass the 80% threshold mandated by the resolution bearing his
name, noting that Reagan "voted for several tax increases, began the
modern era of massive federal debt, ran huge deficits, and approved an
immigration measure the far-right still resents."

However, not everyone finds fault with it. A Republican strategist and
former Bush White House official, who asked to remain anonymous, told
Yahoo! News that the resolution "bodes well" because "Republicans are
continuing to discuss policy positions and principles," adding "this
should not be treated as a purge document - as the media is portraying
it - but more of a document for discussion as Republicans attempt to
rebuild the party in 2010."

Despite the debate that it’s already inspired, whether or not the
resolution even gets voted on by the RNC's membership remains up in
the air. A spokeswoman for RNC Chairman Michael Steele told The Wall
Street Journal that until the deadline for submitting resolutions for
the party's winter meeting is reached, "we do not know what
resolutions will be submitted, nor what the final language of any
resolution ultimately submitted may be."

-- Brett Michael Dykes is a contributor to the Yahoo! News Blog

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Wayne

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:01:17 PM11/25/09
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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:52bc5db0-8adf-4080...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>Any suggestions?

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower
deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's "stimulus"
bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style
government run healthcare;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade
legislation;

(4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American
society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-
recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly
effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing
health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding
of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government
restrictions on gun ownership;

*****************
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Looks like ten very good points. I assume that you disagree with all ten?


Ed Huntress

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:06:51 PM11/25/09
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"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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It looks like a letter to Santa Claus. <g>

They forgot Mom and apple pie. Most importantly, as with letters to Santa
Claus, they left out any mention of how they might achieve such things, if
they were given the responsibility to do so.

That's what makes it such fun to be in the opposition. You never have to do
anything. Just talk...

--
Ed Huntress


Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:03:49 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>
> (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-
> recommended troop surges;

Define 'victory'.

Thanks,
Rich

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:05:02 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>
> (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective
> action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

How about, give them their Freedom by stopping trying to reform them in
our image?

Thanks,
Rich

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:06:34 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>
> (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

What the fuck is the government doing in the marriage racket in the first
place?

Just quit discriminating against single people! The gays only want the
same tax breaks and other handouts that the breeders are getting.

Thanks,
Rich


Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:08:30 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>
> (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing
> health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of
> abortion; and

There should be no "government funding" of ANYTHING.

Thanks,
Rich

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:11:17 PM11/25/09
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I must be a total right winger, I liked all ten.

--
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:16:57 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>Any suggestions?


>
> (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-
> recommended troop surges;
>
> (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective
> action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
>
> (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
>
> (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing
> health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of
> abortion; and

> -
> Looks like ten very good points. I assume that you disagree with all ten?

No, just the ones that advocate Mass Murder, [6], Crusades [7], Government
Endorsement of Religious Rituals [8], and denying Women the Right to
Ownership of their own bodies and the contents thereof [9].

Hope This Helps!
Rich


Stormin Mormon

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:17:15 PM11/25/09
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>Any suggestions?

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt,
lower
deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's
"stimulus"
bill;

I suggest a 10% across the board cut in funding of all
government programs. And eliminating, over three years,
any program not enumerated in the Constitution.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose
Obama-style
government run healthcare;

I suggest repeal or revocation of most of the legislation
which forces medical people to practice defensive
medicine.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap
and trade
legislation;

I support a 50% reduction in the rate of taxation of energy.

(4) We support workers' right to secret ballot by opposing
card check;

I support a return to mechanical voting machines.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into
American
society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

I support a border fence, and also deporting illegals after
6 months of incarceration in Sherrif Joe's tent cities.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by
supporting military-recommended troop surges;

And consider the military on the borders, with shoot
orders.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea,
particularly
effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Sounds good.

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

Would be nice.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by
opposing
health care rationing and denial of health care and
government funding
of abortion; and

And the free market should set prices.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing
government
restrictions on gun ownership;

Which is what the Constitution says.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:38:17 PM11/25/09
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Precisely. The Republican Party has become the American Taliban.

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Regards, Curly
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2012 Run, Rudy, Run! 2012
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Ed Huntress

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:04:40 PM11/25/09
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hekair$ac1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

> >Any suggestions?
>
> (1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt,
> lower
> deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama's
> "stimulus"
> bill;
>
> I suggest a 10% across the board cut in funding of all
> government programs. And eliminating, over three years,
> any program not enumerated in the Constitution.

<sigh> There goes the State and Tribal Underground Storage Tanks Program.
Not to mention the TSCA Title IV State Lead Grants Certification of
Lead-Based Paint Professionals program.

Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of
decency?

d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Wayne

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:31:44 PM11/25/09
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"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freed...@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
>>
>> (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
>
> What the fuck is the government doing in the marriage racket in the first
> place?
>
Quite true. Just let the gummint record legal unions, and leave the
marrying to whoever wants to do marriages.
BUT NOOOOOOO.....that would not be politically correct.


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Poetic Justice

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:49:27 AM11/26/09
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As I said, TAXES are not for social engineering.


Funny how your own distortion and ignoring of the constitution ends up
biting you in the azz.


It is Poetic Justice.

HH&C

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:21:04 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 5:38 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
>
>
>
>
>
> <freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:01:17 -0800, Wayne wrote:
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>>Any suggestions?
>
> >> (6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-
> >> recommended troop surges;
>
> >> (7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly
> >> effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;
>
> >> (8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;
>
> >> (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing
> >> health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding
> >> of abortion; and
> >> -
> >> Looks like ten very good points.  I assume that you disagree with all
> >> ten?
>
> > No, just the ones that advocate Mass Murder, [6], Crusades [7],
> > Government Endorsement of Religious Rituals [8], and denying Women the
> > Right to Ownership of their own bodies and the contents thereof [9].
>
> > Hope This Helps!
> > Rich
>
> Precisely.   The Republican Party has become the American Taliban.

And when your party starts forcing abortion on women for population
control?

"Soylent Green is People..."

> --
> Regards, Curly
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---


>    2012                       Run, Rudy, Run!                       2012

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