Re: It may be up to the British to do what the US is afraid to do.
Curly Surmudgeon
> http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/71316362.html
>
> LONDON - Leaked British government documents call into question former
> Prime Minister Tony Blair's public statements on the buildup for the
> Iraq war and show plans for the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 were being
> made more than a year earlier, a newspaper reported yesterday.
>
> Britain's Sunday Telegraph published details of private statements made
> by senior British military figures saying plans were in place months
> before the March 2003 invasion, but were so badly drafted they left
> troops poorly equipped and ill-prepared for the conflict.
>
> The documents - transcripts of interviews from an internal Defense
> Ministry review of the conflict - disclose that some planning for the
> Iraq war had begun in February 2002. Maj. Gen. Graeme Lamb, then head of
> Britain's special forces, was quoted as saying he had been "working the
> war up since early 2002," according to the newspaper.
>
> In July 2002, Blair told lawmakers at a House of Commons committee
> session that there were no preparations to invade Iraq.
>
> Critics of the war have long insisted that Blair offered President
> George W. Bush an assurance as early as mid-2002 - before British
> lawmakers voted in 2003 to approve U.K. involvement - that Britain would
> join the war.
I hope they are successful and that it drives the spineless Americans to
finally try Bush for war crimes, lying to congress and the public and
torture. To begin with.
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Regards, Curly
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HH&C
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>
> <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:50:48 -0500, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/71316362.html
>
> >> LONDON - Leaked British government documents call into question former
> >> Prime Minister Tony Blair's public statements on the buildup for the
> >> Iraq war and show plans for the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 were being
> >> made more than a year earlier, a newspaper reported yesterday.
>
> >> Britain's Sunday Telegraph published details of private statements made
> >> by senior British military figures saying plans were in place months
> >> before the March 2003 invasion, but were so badly drafted they left
> >> troops poorly equipped and ill-prepared for the conflict.
>
> >> The documents - transcripts of interviews from an internal Defense
> >> Ministry review of the conflict - disclose that some planning for the
> >> Iraq war had begun in February 2002. Maj. Gen. Graeme Lamb, then head of
> >> Britain's special forces, was quoted as saying he had been "working the
> >> war up since early 2002," according to the newspaper.
>
> >> In July 2002, Blair told lawmakers at a House of Commons committee
> >> session that there were no preparations to invade Iraq.
>
> >> Critics of the war have long insisted that Blair offered President
> >> George W. Bush an assurance as early as mid-2002 - before British
> >> lawmakers voted in 2003 to approve U.K. involvement - that Britain would
> >> join the war.
>
> >I hope they are successful and that it drives the spineless Americans to
> >finally try Bush for war crimes, lying to congress and the public and
> >torture. To begin with.
>
> the British would be leading the way to find out the truth.
You appeasers and pacifists would be surprised that there are plans on
the books for all kinds of warfare. Too bad Bill Clinton didn't take
Saddam's acting up a little more seriously, but I guarantee you that
Bill Clinton had war plans for Iraq.
HH&C
> http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/71316362.html
>
> LONDON - Leaked British government documents call into question former
> Prime Minister Tony Blair's public statements on the buildup for the
> Iraq war and show plans for the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 were being
> made more than a year earlier, a newspaper reported yesterday.
>
> Britain's Sunday Telegraph published details of private statements
> made by senior British military figures saying plans were in place
> months before the March 2003 invasion, but were so badly drafted they
> left troops poorly equipped and ill-prepared for the conflict.
So I'm reading a new book, Blank Spots On The Map, Trevor Paglin,
C2009,
ISBN978-0-525-95101-8.
pgs 249-250
CIA director George Tenet envisioned his own agency acting as the
sharp tip of the war's spear. Immediately after the attacks, he
began
frantically assembling a top secret dossier: the CIA's proposal for
what this war on terror might entail. Working together with CIA
director of operations James Pavitt, Tenet sent cables to the CIA's
regional stations arount the world asking for "wish lists." What new
powers would his operatives like to have? Tenet encouraged his
agents
to imagine "novel, untested ways" that the CIA might conduct overseas
operations. The global covert action Tenet anticipated would
"include
paramilitary, logistical, and psychological warfare elements as well
as claccical espionage."
The weekend following the attacks the Bush administration's principal
cabinet members met at Camp David. George Tenet, the director of
central intelligence, handed out a packet entitled "Going to War" --
the result of the agency's fast brainstorming and wish-listing. It
called for a wide-ranging campaign of financial espionage,
paramilitary operations, and surveillance. But "Going to War"
contained much more.
Tenet's proposal was a vision of the future, a future in which the
CIA
would have "exceptional authorities," as he called them. Ne secret
wars would begin across the world. Old ones would expand. Strict
rules about congressional and executive oversight of covert
operations
would be a thing of the past. The agency would no longer have to get
individual covert actions approved by the president. Age-old
complaints about covert actions getting"lawyered to death" would now
be gone. The CIA would be able to snatch people from around the
world
at will, and would now be able to kill.
The CIA director's vision saw new relationships and deeper
collaborations with foreign intelligence services in Egypt, Jordan,
and Algeria, whose cooperation the CIA would encourage with generous
subsidies. There would be new covert relationships with regimes like
Lybia and Syria. Foreign intelligence services would serve as CIA
proxies and force multipliers. At the same time, cooperation with
states likeEgypt and Morocco would help keep American fingerprints
off
the nastiest incidents that were bound to occur.
On Monday, Sept 17, the president announced that he intended to
support every one of Tenets requests for expanded powers. Bush
scrawled his name on Tenets memorandum of notification.
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Tenet, a democrat, and a Clinton appointee.
HH&C
Oh, the funny thing is that the excerpt above is from a chapter,
appropriately titled, "Bobs."
I'm sure he didn't mean Bob Brock, but funny. No?