The Jewish Durga & the Goyim Kleptocracy
Rolf
The Jewish Durga and the Goyim Kleptocracy
May 7, 2008
By Patrick Grimm
It is clear that the United States government is now wholly in the
clutches of a vile cartel of criminal gangsters. These career
criminals are, more often than not, Jewish supremacists who operate a
sickeningly synergistic relationship between government, media and
Israel. American patriot Jack Bernstein, before being murdered by
Israel's Mossad described a connection or an axis between Washington,
Tel Aviv and Moscow. These three worked together to advance the goals
and aims of world Zionism. Of course Moscow is not nearly so
cooperative these days, but who needs them? The Zionist cronyism
taking place in DC has no need of the now defunct Communist regime to
prop up their wrongdoing, their larceny, their spy games and their
two-faced double-dealing, all constants in Jewish history.
No, the Jews-First-Last-and-Always brigade has our government in the
palms of their numerous Durga-like [2] hands. These Zionists, neo-
conservatives, pseudo-patriot military industrialists, globalists, New
World Orderists, devout interventionists, even more devout
internationalists, open borders financiers, media kingpins, Talmudic
Chabad Lubavitch rabbinical religious swarms along with the Hollywood
Left and the New York Weimar Republic-like Jewish intelligentsia have
waged a war on both truth and historical memory in the United States.
Of course our compliant and compromised Goyim kleptocracy [2] is more
than giddy to oblige the Sole Loyalists of Jewry and every career
politician and presidential candidate [3] has made this abundantly
clear in his/her orations and voting habits, orating and voting
against the interests, the future and even the existence of Euro-
American men, women and children at every turn.
If anyone needed the tea leaves read for them and any more assurances
that the American government was lock, stock and barrel owned and
deep-pocketed by Jewish supremacist powers, then the signing of a
Global Anti-Semitism Law by the declining alcoholic, proudly ignorant
and functionally illiterate George W. Bush, should have driven the
demise of America frowningly home for even the hard-core flag-wavers
and bumper sticker sloganeers. The US Department of State said in its
Report on Global Anti-Semitism [4] that "Global anti-Semitism in
recent years has had four main sources." According to the State
Department these include:
-Traditional anti-Jewish prejudice that has pervaded Europe and some
countries in other parts of the world for centuries. This includes
ultra-nationalists and others who assert that the Jewish community
controls governments, the media, international business, and the
financial world.
-Strong anti-Israel sentiment that crosses the line between objective
criticism of Israeli policies and anti-Semitism.
-Anti-Jewish sentiment expressed by some in Europe's growing Muslim
population, based on longstanding antipathy toward both Israel and
Jews, as well as Muslim opposition to developments in Israel and the
occupied territories, and more recently in Iraq.
-Criticism of both the United States and globalization that spills
over to Israel, and to Jews in general who are identified with both.
As one can see, all "anti-Semitism" heretofore described-Semite being
a curious name for a group of Ashkenazi Jews who largely have neither
Semitic features or a connection to biblical Israel-[5] is only verbal
or written criticism that would fall under protected political speech
if directed against most other identifiable groups, races or religious
affiliations, Jews placing themselves into all three of these
categories by their own writings and statements, though they have had
some internecine squabbles about what constitutes a Jew. [6]
On the flip side, Jewish extremists have for many decades pursued an
unrelenting and un-ironical (in their own eyes) campaign of hatred and
defamation against Christians, white Christians in particular, and
have thundered forth with academic treatises, literary works, films,
documentaries and websites [7] demonizing any and all things European
and white. Yet despite this reality, Jewish interests and Jewish
agendas must be protected by GOVERNMENT FIAT and shielded from
critical eyes and critical words, come what may, while open season is
declared by these same leading tribalist acolytes on all things
Christian and European. These particular Jews have tipped their many
grasping hands again and again, and their purposes are more than clear
to all but the grossly uninformed and obtuse, but damned be the brave
soul who mentions those intentions aloud.
What are the actual intentions of Jewish supremacism and the State
Department's Jewish-instigated witch hunt for politically incorrect
pariahs and blasphemers? It's quite simple really. These ethnic
supremacists want a dishonest and expurgated portrait of their very
nature, their place and their corrosive role upon this planet. The
acidic historical nature of Jewish machinations, Judaism and the state
of Israel must be abridged, every dot and tittle of truth and genuine
history blotted out. They want all the offensive tendrils and hangers-
on of their true selves to be clipped away before these protuberances
are spotted, discovered and (YHWH forbid!) talked about.
[...]
As ancillaries to the Report on Global Anti-Semitism, the State
Department has compiled a comprehensive list of all things now defined
as "anti-Semitism." These thought and speech crimes are put forward as
warnings for any who might dare to criticize the Tribe or even recount
disturbing established facts about the Jewish people. In true Talmudic
fashion, TRUTH IS NO DEFENSE. Here is the summary of that list:
1. Any assertion that the Jewish community controls government, the
media, international business and the financial world is anti-Semitic.
2. Any strong anti-Israel sentiment is anti-Semitic.
3. Virulent criticism of Israel's leaders, past or present, is anti-
Semitic.
4. Criticism of the Jewish religion or its religious leaders or
literature, especially the Talmud and the Kabala is anti-Semitic.
5. Criticism of the US government and congress for being under the
influence of the Jewish/Zionist community, including AIPAC, is anti-
Semitic.
6. Criticism of the Jewish/Zionist community for promoting Globalism,
[the New World Order] is anti-Semitic.
7. Blaming Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman
crucifixion of Christ is anti-Semitic.
8. Diminishing the 6 million figure of the holocaust victims is anti-
Semitic.
9. Calling Israel a racist state is anti-Semitic.
10. Asserting that there exists a Zionist conspiracy is anti-Semitic.
11. Claiming the Jews and their leaders created the Bolshevik
revolution in Russia is anti-Semitic.
12. Making derogatory statements about Jewish persons is anti-Semitic.
[9]
It seems to this author that it would have been far simpler to say
"You can't say anything about Jews unless you are praising them." That
would be more succinct and wouldn't waste time with long-winded
specific prohibitions. Of course, it is obvious why this list is
necessary. Only true statements would have to be banned and condemned
as "anti-Semitism" or hatred. False statements, as the Birdman is fond
of saying, could easily be refuted and dismissed by organized Jewry,
but such attempts are NEVER made. Jewish supremacists need bloated
government bureaucracies and rigid laws to ban any of these particular
thoughts and ideas because they are DEMONSTRABLY TRUE beyond any
reasonable doubt. Only uncomfortable and provable truths require
suppression by governments, the imprisonment of truth-tellers and the
shutting down of truth sites on the internet. Nothing short of
totalitarian rule will sustain the Jewish Big Lies and shield the
Jewish Big Liars from the ire of the majority.
But despite an avalanche of disclosure related to Jewish extremist
crimes, the vile cartel of Jewish gangsterism marches on, with the
assistance of our kleptocratic government of thieves, knaves and
enablers, all goose-stepping to the nightmare of Zion.
Entire article at
Bert Hyman
Rolf <jvckk5roc...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> By Patrick Grimm
It's convenient when you neo-Nazis step up and identify yourselves.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Frank Arthur
"Rolf" <jvckk5roc...@spamgourmet.com>
Patrick Grimm is a Jew hater of the same stripe as Ahmedinajad.
Jew haters like the day's of Hitler and Nazism are now the Islamic
terrorists
and supporter of terrorism that fosters the destruction of the United
States,
Israel and Western Civilization. While 19 Muslim radicals, dedicated
to Allah,
set out from Saudi Arabia to inflict as much destruction on Americans
in the USA.
They succeeded by murdering innocent airline passengers including
women, children
and babies. They destroyed the World Trade Center killing nearly 3000
people
of all races and religions at work and then went on to the Pentagon to
damage
as much of it as it could killing Americans at work. Much of the
entire Muslim
world cheered the destruction of the WTC and photographs of Osama bin
Laden were
eagerly bought up by Islamic supporters. Clearly and without
equivocation the
message and aim of Osama bin Laden is the destruction of the United
States,Jews,
Christians and the West to be replaced by Islam. And the Islamic
radicals from
Afghanistan, Palestine, Iran, Saudi Arabia and many others are on
track with their
aims. What do you hear from these supporters? Attacks on Jews and
Israel and the
supporters of Israel as if Jews were to blame! It were Muslims who
killed 3000
Americans. It were Muslim radicals that later blew up London busses
and trains
killing people of all races and religions. Of course Americans support
Isreal.
Israel has been our loyal ally since 1948. Remember that Irael fought
a war
against five Arab amies intent on it's destruction, supported by
Soviet Armor,
Aircraft and technicians. The defeat of those 5 armies, destruction of
Soviet
bombers on the ground and the capture of 1,000 Soviet tanks led to the
humiliation of the Soviets and their retreat from the region. Who
should
we support? Syria? Iran? Hezbollah that killed hundreds of American
Marines
in Lebanon?
Jude Outta Your Mind
The WZO did 9/11.
--
However much I may worship personality-powerful individual personality in
statesmen, inventors, artists, philosophers, or leaders, as well as the
collective personality of a historic group of human beings, which we call a
nation--however much I may worship personality, I do not regret its
disappearance. Whoever can, will, and must perish, let him perish. But the
distinctive nationality of Jews neither can, will, nor must be destroyed ~
Theodor Herzl, Father of Political Zionism
Frank Arthur
"Jude Outta Your Mind" <Theodo...@judenstaat.il>
Identity and Immigration Status of 9/11 Terrorists
According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the
September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them
entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas
with entry permits for six months. Although four of them attended
flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered
on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1
student visa. Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists
entered the United States only once and had been in the country for
only three to five months before the attacks.
The four pilots had been in the United States for extended periods,
although none was a legal permanent resident. Some had received more
than one temporary visa, most of which were currently valid on
September 11, but at least three of them had fallen out of status and
were, therefore, in the United States illegally.
The terrorists had obtained U.S. identification that was used for
boarding flights in the form of Florida, Virginia, California and New
Jersey driver's licenses/ID cards. One of the terrorists, Mohamed
Atta, was detained in Florida for driving without a license, but
subsequently obtained one. Thirteen of the terrorists had Florida
driver's licenses or ID cards, seven had Virginia driver's licenses,
at least two had California licenses and two had New Jersey driver's
licenses. According to the March 28, 2002 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette,
Robert Thibadeau, director of Carnegie Mellon's Internet Security
labratory, says that "the 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 were holding 63
state driver's licenses for identification."
In the probe of the attack, numerous other people with potential
connections to the hijackings have been detained for immigration
violations.
[Note: In the conversion of names from the Arabic alphabet into ours,
there is no single correct spelling. This is why the names of the
terrorists vary in their spelling in different news accounts, and why
computerized databases will not recognize the name when it is spelled
differently from how it was entered into the database. For example,
Mohamed could be spelled Muhamed or Mohammed, and al-Suami could be
spelled Alsuami or al Swami, etc. ]
The Pentagon Plane (AA Flight 77, Dulles to Los Angeles)
Hani Hasan Hanjour (26) - Saudi Arabian - pilot
First came to U.S. in Oct. 1991 to study English in Tucson, Arizona.
Had been in U.S. in April 1996, when he lived in Oakland, Cal. where
he studied English, and later received flight training in Scottsdale,
Arizona. He left in Nov. 1996 and returned again in Nov. 1997 while he
obtained a FAA commercial pilot certificate. He left again in April
1999.
Obtained student visa (F-1) in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in Sept. 2000
after an initial refusal. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, Hanjour failed to reveal in
his visa application that he had previously traveled to the United
States.
Returned Dec. 2000 to study English at Holy Names College (Oakland CA)
but never showed up at the school. In illegal status because he did
not enroll, and his entry permit had expired at the time of the
attack.
Lived in San Diego, Phoenix and Mesa, Ariz. (with Nawaf al-Hamzi), and
later in Northern Virginia.
Had a Virginia driver's license.
Khalid al-Mihdhar (or Almidhar) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.
In Malaysia in Jan. 2000. Followed by Malaysian agents tipped off by
CIA (see Wash. Post 2/3/02).
Arrived at Los Angeles Jan. 15, 2000 with Nawaf al-Hamzi on B-2
tourist visa from Malaysia.
Lived in San Diego, where he took flight training in May 2000 with
Nawaf al-Hamzi.
Left U.S. in June 2000 and obtained new B-1 visa in Saudi Arabia.
According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks, his application falsely indicated he had not
previously traveled to the United States and contained "suspicious
indicators." It also revealed that he had more than one passport.
Returned July 4, 2001, lived in New York.
Put on the Watch List for terrorists in August 2001 after entering
U.S. last time.
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Had a Virginia driver's license.
Nawaf al-Hamzi (or Alhamzi) - Saudi Arabian (brother of Salem)
Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.
According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks, his application contained "suspicious indicators."
In Malaysia in Jan. 2000. Followed by Malaysian agents tipped off by
CIA (see Wash. Post 2/3/02).
Arrived at Los Angeles Jan. 15, 2000 with al-Midhar from Malaysia.
Lived in San Diego, where he took flight training in May 2000 with
al-Midhar, in Dec. 2000 moved to Mesa Arizona (with Hani Hanjour), and
later to Fort Lee, N.J., Wayne, N.J. and Northern Virginia.
Applied to INS July 12, 2000 for extension of permitted stay in U.S.
(apparently granted for additional six months).
Put on the Watch List for terrorists in August 2001. (with al-Mihdhar)
Had been in illegal visa overstay status for nine months at the time
of the attack.
Had California, Florida and Virgina driver's licenses .
Salem al-Hamzi (or Alhamzi)- Saudi Arabian (brother of Nawaf)
Obtained U.S. tourist visa in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in April 1999.
Arrived U.S. June 2001.
Lived in Fort Lee, N.J., Wayne, N.J.
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Had a Virginia driver's license.
Majed Moqed - Saudi Arabian
Identity in doubt.
Entered on tourist visa obtained in Saudi Arabia after May 2001.
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Had a Virginia driver's license.
The WTC North Tower Plane (AA Flight 11, Boston to Los Angeles)
Mohamed Atta - Egyptian (43) - pilot
Born in Egypt in 1968.
Graduated from Cairo Univ. with degree in Architectural Engineering in
1990.
Obtained visitor visa in Berlin Germany, May 2000.
Entered U.S. at Newark on June 3, 2000 on tourist visa and given entry
permit until December 2, 2000.
Applied in Sept. 2000 to INS for change in status to trainee.
Attended Huffman Aviation school in Venice Florida with al-Shehhi.
Arrested in Florida for driving without license, and failed to show up
for court date --bench warrant issued.
Subsequently obtained Florida driver's license.
Obtained FAA pilot's certificate.
According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks, had overstayed his entry permit as of Dec. 4, 2000.
Flew to Madrid Jan. 2001.
United Arab Emirate (UAE) authorities state Atta detained in January
2001 on basis of his name appearing on terrorist alert list, but was
not held in absence of U.S. charges. UAE states that U.S. authorities
were warned Atta intended to return to U.S.
Returned to U.S. on January 10, 2001 at Miami and was sent to
secondary inspection because he acknowledged being in flight training
but did not have required trainee visa. Interagency Border Information
System (IBIS) database checked. Admitted by INS based on pending
application for change to trainee status.
Moved to Georgia in Jan. 2001 for additional flight training with
al-Shehhi.
Left U.S. and returned from Madrid on July 19, 2001 and given
permission to stay until November 2, 2001.
Also lived in Hollywood and Coral Springs, Fla.
Received change of status approval by INS in September a year after
the attacks.
Satam al-Suqami (25) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained business visa in Saudi Arabia (but was residing in United
Arab Emirates).
Entered U.S. in May 2001. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, asked for and was admitted
for 20 days and was in overstay status at the time of the attacks. The
Commission staff also said his passport was doctored (presumably with
pages removed to hide his travel to countries where he obtained
terrorist training).
Was in overstay status at the time of the attack.
Waleed al-Shehri (or Alshehri) (21) - Saudi Arabian (brother of Wail)
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Entered U.S. in May 2000.
Licensed pilot.
Lived in Hollywood, Orlando and Daytona Beach (all in Florida).
In illegal nonimmigrant status (visa overstay) at time of the attack.
Had a Florida driver's license.
Wail (or Wael) al-Shehri (or Alshehri) (25) - Saudi Arabian (brother
of Waleed)
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Lived in Hollywood, Fla. and Newton, Mass.
Had a Florida ID card.
Abdulaziz al-Omari (or Alomari) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia in June 2001.
According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks, his passport was doctored (presumably with pages
removed to hide his travel to countries where he obtained terrorist
training).
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Lived in Hollywood, Fla.
Had a Florida and Virginia driver's licenses.
The WTC South Tower Plane (UA Flight 175, Boston to Los Angeles)
Marwan al-Shehhi (or Alshehhi) - United Arab Emirates - pilot
Studied electrical engineering at Tech. Univ. in Hamburg.
In January 2000, obtained 10-year, multiple entry tourist visa in
Dubai, United Arab Emirates.
Entered the U.S. in May 2000, applied September for change of status
to student.
Attended flight school in Florida, obtained FAA pilot's certificate.
Took at least 3 trips out of U.S. and back. (Overstayed entry permit
as of Nov. 2000, left U.S. in Dec. 2000, returned Jan. 2001.)
Attended flight school in Georgia with Atta in Jan. 2001. According to
the 2/04 Staff Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks,
was sent to secondary inspection, but was admitted.)
Flew to Egypt April 8, 2001, returned from Morocco May 2, 2001.
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Lived in New York City area, Georgia and moved to Hollywood, Fla. in
July with Atta and trained at Huffman Aviation in Venice.
Had a Florida driver's license.
Fayez Ahmed Rashid Ahmed al-Qadi Banihammad (aka Fayez Ahmed) - United
Arab Emirates
Obtained tourist visa in United Arab Emirates.
Entered U.S. in June.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (or Alghamdi) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Entered U.S. in May.
In illegal visa overstay status at the time of the attack.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Had a Florida ID card.
Had a Virginia driver's license
Hamza Saleh al-Ghamdi (or Alghamdi) (20) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained visa in Saudi Arabia.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Had a Florida driver's license.
Mohand al-Shehri (or Alshehri) - Saudi Arabian
Identity in doubt.
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Admitted to U.S. in May.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
The Pennsylvania Plane (UA Flight 93, Newark to San Francisco)
Ziad Samir Jarrah - Lebanese - pilot
Born in Lebanon in 1975.
Studied aircraft construction and maintenance at Hamburg tech. univ.
1996-00.
Obtained five-year, multiple-entry tourist visa in Germany.
Entered U.S. in June 27, 2000 at Atlanta.
Trained as a pilot in Venice, Florida and Virginia Gardens, Florida
but never obtained student trainee visa. Received FAA pilot's
certificate.
Took at least 5 trips out of U.S. and back (flew to Germany July 25
and returned August 5, 2001).
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Had a Florida driver's license.
Saeed al-Ghamdi (or Alghamdi) - Saudi Arabian
Identity in doubt.
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia. According to the 2/04 Staff
Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, application
falsely stated he had not previously applied for a U.S. visa.
Entered U.S. in June 2001. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, he was sent to secondary
inspection, because he had a one-way ticket and $500, but was
admitted.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Had a Florida ID card.
Ahmed Ibrahim A. al-Haznawi (or Alhaznawi) (21) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Entered the U.S. in June 2001. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of
the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, his passport may have
had "suspicious indicators."
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Had a Florida driver's license.
Ahmed Abdullah al-Nami (or Alnami) (23) - Saudi Arabian
Obtained tourist visa in Saudi Arabia.
Entered the U.S. in May 2001. According to the 2/04 Staff Report of
the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, his passport may have
had "suspicious indicators."
In legal nonimmigrant status at the time of the attack.
Lived in Delray Beach, Fla.
Had a Florida ID card.
Other Conspiritors:
Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (Coordinator) - Indicted in 1996 in N.Y. for his
role in an earlier terrorist plot. Had a Saudi Arabian passport
(although not a Saudi national) - obtained a U.S. visa in July 2001.
Ramzi Bin-al-shibh - Yemeni (potential pilot) - denied visa four
times.
Zakariya Essabar - Moroccan - potential pilot/hijacker - denied visa.
Saeed "Jihad" al Gamdi - Potential hijacker - denied visa.
Ali Abdul Aziz Ali - Pakistani - finacial facilitator - denied visa.
Mohamed al Kahtani - potential hijacker - denied visa.
Data compiled from various news sources and checked where possible
against official sources including the Dec. 2002 Senate report "Joint
inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the
Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001" (Released in July 2003) and
the Feb. 2004 Staff Report of the National Commission on Terrorist
Attacks.
Updated 2/04
Jude Outta Your Mind
Gunner
>In news:362dc8b3-8564-45e9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
>Rolf <jvckk5roc...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>
>> By Patrick Grimm
>
>It's convenient when you neo-Nazis step up and identify yourselves.
Indeed.
Come the Revolution, we can kill the lawyers and the Neo-Nazis at the
same time
Gunner
h...@nospam.org
>In news:362dc8b3-8564-45e9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
>Rolf <jvckk5roc...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>
>> By Patrick Grimm
>
>It's convenient when you neo-Nazis step up and identify yourselves.
ironically, the Zionists have turned into some of the worst neo-Nazis
anywhere in the world.
Hal
Raymond
> On 10 May 2008 18:17:04 GMT, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> >Innews:362dc8b3-8564-45e9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
> >Rolf <jvckk5roc71.4.r...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>
> >> By Patrick Grimm
>
> >It's convenient when you neo-Nazis step up and identify yourselves.
>
> ironically, the Zionists have turned into some of the worst neo-Nazis
> anywhere in the world.
>
> Hal
We Americans allegedly want people to be of equal weight and ability
in a good and fair fight.
If we had done as much, originally, for the Palestinians militarily
and financially, as we did for the Jews, we may have had a situation
by now where there would have been a necessity to call it a draw .
But, we deliberately armed and financed the Jews from the day they
landed in Palestine. Now, the only weapons the Palestinians have to
use against tanks and jet aircraft are stones and suicide bombers.
If the United States had not refused the Jews after WW II, they would
all be here in America. Palestine was a bad choice, in 1946, for the
world's wandering Jews. They should have gone to Madagascar where the
Germans wanted them to go even before the Holocaust.
All of today's problems in the Middle East could have been avoided if
the US would have encouraged the plan to send the dispalced Jews to
Madagascar instead of to Palestine.
The Madagascar Plan
Before the Nazis decided to murder European Jewry in gas chambers,
they considered theMadagascar Plan - a plan to move 4 million Jews
from Europe to the island of Madagascar. Not only would it have
prevented a Middle East Crisis but it might have saved millions of
Jews from the German showers and ovens
Who's idea was it?
Like almost all Nazi ideas, someone else came up with the idea first.
As early as 1885, Paul de Lagarde suggested deporting Eastern European
Jews to Madagascar. In 1926 and 1927, Poland and Japan each
investigated the possibility of using Madagascar for solving their
over-population problems.
Nazi Preparations
In 1938 and 1939, Nazi Germany tried to use the Madagascar Plan for
financial and foreign policy arrangements.
On November 12, 1938, Hermann G�ring told the German cabinet that
Hitler was going to suggest to the West the emigration of Jews to
Madagascar.
Hjalmar Schacht, Reichsbank president, during discussions in London,
tried to procure and international loan to send the Jews to Madagascar
(Germany would make a profit since the Jews would only be allowed to
take their money out in German goods). In December 1939, Joachim von
Ribbentrop, the German foreign minister, even included the emigration
of Jews to Madagascar as part of a peace proposal to the pope.
Since Madagascar was still a French colony during these discussions,
Germany had no way to enact their proposals without France's approval.
The beginning of World War II ended these discussions but after
France's defeat in 1940, Germany no longer needed to coordinate with
the West about their plan.
SEE:
The Reader's Companion to American History MIDDLE EAST-U.S. RELATIONS
The United States championed the cause of Israel while slowly
replacing Britain as the major Western patron of conservative Arab
regimes. The stresses of accommodating both an increasingly close
relationship with Israel and ties with Arab states that were at war
with Israel have marked American relations with the Arab world ever
since
http://www.answers.com/topic/middle-east-u-s-relations
The Madagascar Plan
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa071299.htm
It is still a good idea;
For gezunterhait! - Bon voyage! Travel in good health!
Hitler's plan:
Hitler's Conversation with Josef Hell, 1922
When Hell asked Hitler what he intended doing if he ever had full
freedom of action against the Jews, his response was:
"If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my
first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have
gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the
Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be
hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink.
They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as
they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will
continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the
same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is
cleansed of the last Jew!"
(quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates,
1977, p.116)
L'Shalom
Tim May
<4d667fda-a4a1-41c7...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond <Bluer...@aol.com> wrote:
> If the United States had not refused the Jews after WW II, they would
> all be here in America. Palestine was a bad choice, in 1946, for the
> world's wandering Jews. They should have gone to Madagascar where the
> Germans wanted them to go even before the Holocaust.
It was not a legitimate function of the U.S. government to let in many
milliions of Jews or any other kind of refugees.
If some of them wished to apply as immigrants, and had the means to
support themselves, and were vermin- and disease-free, they could wait
in the normal immigration lines.
Period.
All those who think otherwise need to be sent up the smokestacks.
--Tim May
David Johnston
<tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
>In article
><4d667fda-a4a1-41c7...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>Raymond <Bluer...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> If the United States had not refused the Jews after WW II, they would
>> all be here in America. Palestine was a bad choice, in 1946, for the
>> world's wandering Jews. They should have gone to Madagascar where the
>> Germans wanted them to go even before the Holocaust.
>
>It was not a legitimate function of the U.S. government to let in many
>milliions of Jews or any other kind of refugees.
>
My goodness what a brain-damaged statement. So whose job is it to let
in millions of refugees?
strabo
No one has such authority in the US. It is cultural and national
suicide to allow such levels. The only two immigration programs
authorized by Congress around the turn of the last century had many
restrictions and requirements. Even still the effects were so
devastating to locales that Congress had to stop the second program.
Yes, the current invasion of illegal aliens is unconstitutional
and is destroying the US as we knew it.
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Gunner
Your buffoonery is noted with great amusement
Gunner
Gunner
wrote:
>But, we deliberately armed and financed the Jews from the day they
>landed in Palestine. Now, the only weapons the Palestinians have to
>use against tanks and jet aircraft are stones and suicide bombers.
Works for me. Fuck the Palestinians. Ask the Jordanians what they
think about the Palestinians.
Gunner
h...@nospam.org
ask anyone except a Christian what they think about the Jews. Ask the
Jews what they think about Christians.
Hal
>Gunner
Raymond
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 01:41:33 -0700, Gunner
>
> <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
> >wrote:
>
> >>But, we deliberately armed and financed the Jews from the day they
> >>landed in Palestine. Now, the only weapons the Palestinians have to
> >>use against tanks and jet aircraft are stones and suicide bombers.
>
> >Works for me. �Fuck the Palestinians. Ask the Jordanians what they
> >think about the Palestinians.
>
> ask anyone except a Christian what they think about the Jews. �Ask the
> Jews what they think about Christians.
They don't like each other ... never did and never will. However, they
must at least appear that they have much in common. Remember that
without the Jewish promise of a Messiah, the Christians would not
exist. and Jesus Christ would have been just another babbling Jew
making trouble for his Jewish Roman collaberators. Today, the Jews
need the American military and financial support and without the
Christians, they would be not have it. And the Christians need the
Jews to account for their leader. Without the promise of the Messiah,
there would be no Vatican, no great cathedrals for the tousists to
visit, no hypocrite pedophile priests, no Rev.Hagees and no Christian
evangelists electing parasite politicians like the Bush Nazis.
> Hal
>
>
>
> >Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
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Jude Outta Your Mind
> On May 11, 9:01?am, h...@nospam.org wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 01:41:33 -0700, Gunner
>>
>> <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> >On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:03:53 -0700 (PDT), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com>
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>But, we deliberately armed and financed the Jews from the day they
>> >>landed in Palestine. Now, the only weapons the Palestinians have to
>> >>use against tanks and jet aircraft are stones and suicide bombers.
>>
>> >Works for me. ?Fuck the Palestinians. Ask the Jordanians what they
>> >think about the Palestinians.
>>
>> ask anyone except a Christian what they think about the Jews. ?Ask the
>> Jews what they think about Christians.
>
> They don't like each other ... never did and never will. However, they
> must at least appear that they have much in common. Remember that
> without the Jewish promise of a Messiah, the Christians would not
> exist.
I do not believe that the Jews of today have anything to do with the Jews of
the Bible. Nor do I believe in the Bible. It's a work of fiction that
does not stand up to the test of objective scrutiny using contemporary
written sources and archeology.
> and Jesus Christ would have been just another babbling Jew
> making trouble for his Jewish Roman collaberators.
Jesus Christ had no historical reality.
> Today, the Jews
> need the American military and financial support and without the
> Christians, they would be not have it. And the Christians need the
> Jews to account for their leader. Without the promise of the Messiah,
> there would be no Vatican,
Well, that really isn't so. Julius Caesar was Pontifex Maximus before the
myth of Jesus was ever invented.
> no great cathedrals for the tousists to
> visit, no hypocrite pedophile priests, no Rev.Hagees and no Christian
> evangelists electing parasite politicians like the Bush Nazis.
What a concept.
BDK
He...@judenstaat.il says...
> Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>
>
Really? And how did an old man like him do it? Does he have super
powers?
Please don't post a link to that stupid "friendster" website...
BDK
Jude Outta Your Mind
> In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> He...@judenstaat.il says...
>> Heinz Alfred Kissinger
Larry Silverstein
Anarchore
Gunner
I have. Most folks, both Xtian and Jewish seem to get along just
fine.
Now the tards that are neo-nazis and the sand niggers on the other
hand...
Interesting that you and sand niggers are in bed together. But given
the sexual practices of both..its hardly surprising.
>
>>Gunner
Gunner
Your buffoonery is noted with even greater amusement
Death to Smog!!
Gunner
BDK
He...@judenstaat.il says...
> BDK wrote:
>
> > In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> > He...@judenstaat.il says...
> >> Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>
> Larry Silverstein
>
A (monetary) victim of 911?
You kooks just amaze me. Are you one of those poor deranged kooks that
"thinks" Silverstein "Made out" from 911?
For you and your family's sake, I hope not.
BDK
Jude Outta Your Mind
> In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> He...@judenstaat.il says...
>> BDK wrote:
>>
>> > In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>> > He...@judenstaat.il says...
>> >> Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>>
>> Larry Silverstein
Ronald S. Lauder
Vandar
> BDK wrote:
>
>
>>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>
>>>BDK wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>>>
>>>Larry Silverstein
>
>
> Ronald S. Lauder
Kevin Bacon
Jude Outta Your Mind
Who?
BDK
@yahoo.com says...
Arnold Shwartzenegger?
BDK
BDK
He...@judenstaat.il says...
> Vandar wrote:
>
> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> BDK wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> >>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
> >>>
> >>>>BDK wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> >>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
> >>>>
> >>>>Larry Silverstein
> >>
> >>
> >> Ronald S. Lauder
> >
> > Kevin Bacon
>
> Who?
>
>
ROTFL.
BDK
Vandar
> Vandar wrote:
>
>
>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
>>
>>>BDK wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>BDK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry Silverstein
>>>
>>>
>>>Ronald S. Lauder
>>
>>Kevin Bacon
>
>
> Who?
Jude Outta Your Mind
Two degrees of Heinz.
Vandar
> Vandar wrote:
>
>
>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Vandar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>BDK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BDK wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
>>>>>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Larry Silverstein
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ronald S. Lauder
>>>>
>>>>Kevin Bacon
>>>
>>>
>>>Who?
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_kevin_bacon
>
>
> Two degrees of Heinz.
Kissinger's Bacon number is 3.
Jude Outta Your Mind
What's Jerome Hauer's Heinz number?
Observer
<gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>On 10 May 2008 18:17:04 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:362dc8b3-8564-45e9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
>>Rolf <jvckk5roc...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> By Patrick Grimm
>>
>>It's convenient when you neo-Nazis step up and identify yourselves.
>
>
>Indeed.
>
>Come the Revolution, we can kill the lawyers and the Neo-Nazis at the
>same time
>
You'll off yourself? Cool!
__
"I don't know any straight-talking Republicans, do you?
I can't get a straight answer out of any Republicans.
I Don't know what they're talking about" - Bill O'Reilly
BDK
He...@judenstaat.il says...
> Vandar wrote:
>
> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >
> >> Vandar wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Vandar wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>BDK wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrV...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> >>>>>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>BDK wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vV...@speakeasy.net>,
> >>>>>>>>>Theodor- He...@judenstaat.il says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Larry Silverstein
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ronald S. Lauder
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Kevin Bacon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Who?
> >>>
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_kevin_bacon
> >>
> >>
> >> Two degrees of Heinz.
> >
> > Kissinger's Bacon number is 3.
>
> What's Jerome Hauer's Heinz number?
>
>
Nobody that doesn't have an obsession with Kissinger gives a shit.
BDK
Iarnrod
> Vandar wrote:
>
> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >
> >> Vandar wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Vandar wrote:
> >>>>>Kevin Bacon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Who?
> >>>
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_kevin_bacon
> >>
> >>
> >> Two degrees of Heinz.
> >
> > Kissinger's Bacon number is 3.
>
> What's Jerome Hauer's Heinz number?
57, of course!
Disneygeek
I read Isaac Asimov's "Asimov's Guide To The Bible." On the subject of
Jesus, Asimov reached the conclusion that while the life and times of
Jesus Christ were certainly exaggerated by his followers, it's foolish
to simply dismiss the exsistence (sp) of the man completely. Now if
the Penultimate Agnostic, Isaac Asimov, can come to the conclusion
that Jesus was an actual person and not a "myth," I'm going to go with
that!
Disneygeek
> Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > BDK wrote:
>
> >>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>
> >>>BDK wrote:
>
> >>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vVnZ2dnUVZ_jydn...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> >>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>
> >>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>
> >>>Larry Silverstein
>
> > Ronald S. Lauder
>
> Kevin Bacon
It always turns to Kevin Bacon eventually, doesn't it?
Disneygeek
> In article <HEGVj.38040$gB5.33...@fe105.usenetserver.com>, vandar69> > >>In article <e_-dnQVDeOnnibrVnZ2dnUVZ_hnin...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> > >>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>
> > >>>BDK wrote:
>
> > >>>>In article <_8Cdncf_QZ4jh7vVnZ2dnUVZ_jydn...@speakeasy.net>, Theodor-
> > >>>>He...@judenstaat.il says...
>
> > >>>>>Heinz Alfred Kissinger
>
> > >>>Larry Silverstein
>
> > > Ronald S. Lauder
>
> > Kevin Bacon
>
> Arnold Shwartzenegger?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
If he could run, "Ah-nald" would be the only Republican I would
consider voting for in a Presidental election.
Jude Outta Your Mind
I'll take that as a 1.
How 'bout Lewis Paul Bremer's Heinz number?
Jude Outta Your Mind
I'm likely to vote for Ron Paul. Cynthia McKinney is also on my short list.
Jude Outta Your Mind
It's a definite 2, and a probable 1.
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showConnection.php?id1=3231&id2=6763
Iarnrod
> Iarnrod wrote:
>
> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> Vandar wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Vandar wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Vandar wrote:
> >
> >> >>>>>Kevin Bacon
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Who?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_kevin_bacon
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Two degrees of Heinz.
> >> >
> >> > Kissinger's Bacon number is 3.
> >>
> >> What's Jerome Hauer's Heinz number?
> >
> > 57, of course!
>
> It's a definite 2, and a probable 1.
WH-O-O-O-O-O-S-S-S-H-H-H!!!!!!!!!!
Lighten up, man, and enjoy a laugh once in a while. It's not like
you're actually right about any of this, after all.
Jude Outta Your Mind
Are you kidding? I find myself laughing my ass off when I start pulling
this all together. Any time I get stuck in a dead end and can't figure out
how to make a connection I just ask "Where was Heinz?", and wham! There'll
be a whole new branch open up.
As for the other Heinz, isn't that the family John Forbes Kohn married into,
or something?
Speaking of which, I just decided to test my hypothesis. I haven't looked
beyond the first sentence, and I am convinced this is nothing but a
cover-up tango:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CEEDA1E38F934A1575AC0A964958260
BDK
BWHAHAHAHAAA! Holy shit, do you have dreams of Kissinger dancing in your
head when you dream at night? You really need someone new to fixate on,
maybe a woman (assuming you're a straight man)?
BDK
BDK
295921...@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, iar...@yahoo.com says...
His insistence on posting links to that really stupid website cracks me
up. As if big shots knowing each other is supposed to be some sort of
surprise?
BDK
Iarnrod
> Iarnrod wrote:
>
> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> Iarnrod wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> >> Vandar wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Vandar wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Jude Outta Your Mind wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Vandar wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >>>>>Kevin Bacon
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Who?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_kevin_bacon
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Two degrees of Heinz.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kissinger's Bacon number is 3.
> >> >>
> >> >> What's Jerome Hauer's Heinz number?
> >> >
> >> > 57, of course!
> >>
> >> It's a definite 2, and a probable 1.
> >
> > WH-O-O-O-O-O-S-S-S-H-H-H!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Lighten up, man, and enjoy a laugh once in a while. It's not like
> > you're actually right about any of this, after all.
>
> Are you kidding?
No.
> I find myself laughing my ass off when I start pulling this all together.
Believe it or not, so do we!
David Johnston
wrote:
>David Johnston wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:28:55 -0700, Tim May
>> <tim...@removethis.got.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <4d667fda-a4a1-41c7...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Raymond <Bluer...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the United States had not refused the Jews after WW II, they would
>>>> all be here in America. Palestine was a bad choice, in 1946, for the
>>>> world's wandering Jews. They should have gone to Madagascar where the
>>>> Germans wanted them to go even before the Holocaust.
>>> It was not a legitimate function of the U.S. government to let in many
>>> milliions of Jews or any other kind of refugees.
>>>
>>
>> My goodness what a brain-damaged statement. So whose job is it to let
>> in millions of refugees?
> >
>
>No one has such authority in the US.
Oh really? What denies them that authority? .
>
>Yes, the current invasion of illegal aliens is unconstitutional
>and is destroying the US as we knew it.
Please cite the constitutional measure forbidding it.
strabo
Apparently you attended government schools and/or you are a lawyer.
FYI, the US constitution is a negative document. If it ain't in there
it ain't lawful. The constitution describes the responsibilities of
government and authorizes lawful action. Mass immigration is not
authorized. Of course that's only logical since mass immigration
constitutes national suicide.
The robber barons bribed Congress to promote mass immigrations
in three waves from around 1900 to 1926. By that time so much damage
had been done that the threat of death hung heavily over Washington
and Congress passed an anti-immigration act.
The recent back-door conducted Mexican invasion signals that the
Congress has abdicated and the president is a traitor. We now have
an illegitimate government. Illegal aliens are fair game to any
American citizen.
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wrote:
Isn't it? So you're saying that the United States, a nation which
accepted a flow of immigration all though it's existence was violating
the Constitution throughout it's entire history?
BDK
says...
He slept through history class. Along with almost all the others.
--
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