ANTI-GUNNERS SHAMELESSLY EXPLOIT SEPTEMBER 11 TRAGEDIES
Ray Keller
From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
ANTI-GUNNERS SHAMELESSLY EXPLOIT SEPTEMBER 11 TRAGEDIES
As we predicted, the anti-Second Amendment community has employed the
disgraceful tactic of exploiting our nation`s fear over terrorism to
promote attacks on our Right to Keep and Bear Arms. On September 25, the
Boston Globe published a grossly misleading attack on gun shows by
syndicated columnist Tom Oliphant-an attack clearly inspired by a "fact
sheet" provided to him by the anti-gun organization called Americans for
Gun Safety (AGS). Oliphant and AGS seem to have collaborated in a
deliberate attempt to inject the word "terrorist" into the gun show debate
by digging up a case the FBI began investigating more than a year ago.
Oliphant and AGS attempted to use the case of a convicted felon, Ali
Boumelhem, suspected of going to gun shows to purchase firearms intended to
be shipped overseas for use in terrorist activities as a reason for
promoting legislation that would shut down gun shows as we know them today.
The facts do not support the anti-gunners, though, because the system
worked-the suspect was arrested, prosecuted, and convicted in federal court.
In order to foster the ruse that there was a link between gun shows and
terrorism, AGS selectively edited material it sent journalists and members
of Congress to try to create a nexus for its agenda of placing new
restrictions on law-abiding gun owners. The AGS "fact sheet" mailing states
an FBI informant previously had seen Boumelhem in Beirut unloading
shipments of weapons and explosives. The Middle East Intelligence Bulletin,
which AGS cites as its source, is much more specific, saying the FBI
informant "had seen Boumelhem in Beirut unloading shipments of automatic
weapons, explosives, grenades and rocket launchers." Clearly, "automatic
weapons, explosives, grenades and rocket launchers" was changed to "weapons
and explosives" by AGS, knowing full well that none of those items can be
bought or sold at any gun show anywhere in America.
AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
AGS is joined in its shameless exploitation of tragedy by McKelvey`s old
friends at HCI. But Sarah Brady`s gun-ban lobby took Oliphant`s column a
step further, and is using it to promote the registration of all
law-abiding gun purchasers. But even more shamelessly than AGS, which
refuses to publicly admit its true national agenda is the licensing and
registration of all gun owners, HCI has further expanded the exploitation
of the tragic events of September 11. Virtually every release from the
gun-ban lobby concerning the recent terrorist attacks-attacks, we should
all remember, that did not involve any firearms-has included a pitch
promoting its anti-gun agenda. Even a recent release regarding the
discussion of arming airline pilots as a possible safeguard against
terrorist hijackings saw the gun-ban lobby`s president, Michael Barnes,
include a pitch for registering gun owners.
In the days and weeks to come, Congress will consider many proposals that
seek to ensure America`s safety from terrorists, but promoting attacks on
legal gun shows and pushing registration schemes for law-abiding gun owners
have no place in this discussion. Be sure to let your federal lawmakers
know that the debate over legislative attacks on legal gun shows, such as
S. 767, introduced by U.S. Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.), and S. 890,
introduced by U.S. Senators Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) and John McCain
(R-Ariz.), have no place in an appropriate congressional debate on the
threat of terrorism. Be sure to contact your U.S. Senators, at (202)
224-3121, and your U.S. Representative, at (202) 225-3121, and urge them to
do everything possible to end the threat of terrorism, but not at the
expense of our freedom. You can also find contact information for your
federal lawmakers by using our "Write Your Reps" tool found at
www.NRAILA.org.
MORE PROBLEMS
FOR THE GUN-BAN LOBBY
While still a considerable threat to the Second Amendment, the gun ban
lobby formally known as HCI has fallen on hard times. Not only has
mainstream America consistently rejected its anti-gun agenda, but now it
seems its supporters are losing interest as well. The group announced this
week that it had to lay off nearly 20% of its staff, apparently due to the
fact that contributions are rapidly drying up. Could this mean that many in
the anti-gun community are starting to realize that attacking law-abiding
gun owners is not the answer to addressing crime-or terrorism? A front page
article in the September 27 issue of Roll Call may give this theory some
support. The article relates how many on Capitol Hill are responding to the
recent terrorist attacks, and the possibility that more attacks may be in
the future, and states, "Several lawmakers described colleagues-including
some advocates of strict controls on handguns-who are now seeking firearms
training in hopes of protecting themselves if the need should arise." Even
film maker Michael Moore, who helped pressure Kmart into pulling handgun
ammunition from its shelves earlier this year, seems to have changed some
of his views. Writing about his experience while visiting the site of the
attacks on the World Trade Center, Moore commented, "This started out as a
documentary on gun violence in America, but the largest mass murder in our
history was just committed-without the use of a single gun! Not a single
bullet fired! No bomb was set off, no missile was fired, no weapon . . .
was used. A boxcutter!-I can`t stop thinking about this. A thousand gun
control laws would not have prevented this massacre. What am I doing?"
Unfortunately, even as HCI and the gun-ban movement continue to lose
support, they remain credible threats to our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Anti-gun elitists such as AGS`s billionare Andrew McKelvey can still funnel
incredible amounts of financial support into anti-gun efforts. And while
most in the mainstream media have currently turned their focus to America`s
response to terrorism, it is likely only a matter of time before America`s
return to normalcy includes a return to the mainstream media`s biased
support of gun control.
RIGHT TO CARRY IN MICHIGAN
Perhaps yet another indication that the anti-gun movement is losing some
steam is the report that opponents of Michigan`s new Right to Carry law
have given up on their effort to try to overturn the law through a ballot
initiative. According to a September 26 Associated Press story, the groups
opposed to allowing law-abiding citizens the means to protect themselves
and their families from violent criminals simply didn`t have the money to
maintain their effort, and they realized that they were destined to lose.
David Fink, a coordinator of the anti-self defense effort, said of trying
to bring the issue to the voters, "It would be a horrible waste . . . and a
tremendous setback to put (repealing Right to Carry) on the ballot and then
lose."
A LOOK AT THE STATES
CALIFORNIA
On Thursday, October 4, Assemblyman Dick Dickerson (R-Redding) will provide
NRA members with an inside look at legislation affecting the pro-gun
community and what we can expect to see before the Legislature in 2002. In
addition NRA-ILA Calif. State Liaison Ed Worley and Attorney Chuck Michel
will give an update on gun-related matters before the courts. This is your
opportunity to hear what`s happening in Sacramento and learn how you can
get involved in the fight to protect your Second Amendment rights in
California! The event will take place at the Vacaville Opera House, at 560
Main Street #E in Vacaville at 7:00 p.m.
NEW MEXICO
NRA Members in the City of Albuquerque are reminded to vote in the Tuesday,
October 2, election for mayor and city councillors. You should have already
received by U.S. Mail a list of recommended pro-gun candidates this week.
Turnout is expected to be low, so your vote will make the difference in
deciding who speaks for you in your own local government! If you are an NRA
member that has not received our mailing, please contact NRA-ILA`s
Grassroots Division at (800) 392-8683, and we will be happy to fill you in
on ratings and endorsements for this election.
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Lonnie Courtney Clay
> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
>
> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
>
"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
Sounds like "make my day"
Lonnie Courtney Clay
M. L. Davis
Rick Mather wrote in message <5cvdrt899cdmd0cgs...@4ax.com>...
>On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
>wrote:
>There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
Typical Rick Mather obfuscation ploy.
-*MORT*-
Aaron R. Kulkis
You mispelled "fucked up"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. (Updated 20 July 2001)
tos...@aol.com ab...@aol.com ab...@yahoo.com ab...@hotmail.com
ab...@msn.com ab...@sprint.com ab...@earthlink.com u...@ftc.gov
spa...@spamcop.net
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
Lonnie Courtney Clay
When it rains lemons, make lemonade.
Rick Mather = anagram Rich Market
I lack the time to dissect everybody, but that one I could not resist.
Lonnie Courtney Clay - LCClay1 - Ell seek lay won.
Damian Harvey
> Rick Mather wrote:
> >
> > On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> > >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> > >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> > >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> > >>
> > >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> > >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> > >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> > >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> > >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> > >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> > >>
> > >
> > >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> > >Sounds like "make my day"
> > >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> > There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
>
> You mispelled "fucked up"
You mispelled "anti-gun"
--
Great minds talk about ideas.
Average minds talk about events.
Small minds talk about people.
Congenital Kano
"Rick Mather" <rickm...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
news:6ngfrt4sd65ulq1j7...@4ax.com...
>
> You misspelled "misspelled". But it wasn't a bad attempt considering
> the fact that you are the fattest kid on the short bus.
>
LOL! Now there's an inventive insult.
Randy
Congenital Kano
ssfa?
Randy
James Mayer
> wrote:
>
> >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> >>
> >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> >>
> >
> >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> >Sounds like "make my day"
> >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
Don't need YOU fixing anything, Dr. Ewan Jackson troll.
KB9WFK
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Rick Mather wrote:
> > >
> > > On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> > > >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> > > >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> > > >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> > > >>
> > > >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> > > >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> > > >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> > > >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> > > >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> > > >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> > > >Sounds like "make my day"
> > > >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> > > There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
> >
> > You mispelled "fucked up"
>
> You mispelled "anti-gun"
Maybe I should clarify:
> > > There ya go, fixed(*) the subject line for you fellers.
^^^^^
He misspelled "fucked up"
(*) Lonnie changed "anti-gun" to pro-gun....thereby committing a fuck-up.
Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:22:13 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <akul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Rick Mather wrote:
> >>
> >> On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> >> >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> >> >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> >> >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> >> >>
> >> >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> >> >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> >> >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> >> >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> >> >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> >> >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> >> >Sounds like "make my day"
> >> >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> >> There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
> >
> >You mispelled "fucked up"
> the fact that you are the fattest kid on the short bus.
False premise
a) never rode a bus to school, period.
b) never been fat.
At the age of 36, I still have a 30 inch waist.
Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 17:22:13 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <akul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> >> >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> >> >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> >> >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> >> >>
> >> >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> >> >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> >> >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> >> >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> >> >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> >> >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> >> >Sounds like "make my day"
> >> >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> >> There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
> >
> >You mispelled "fucked up"
But I spelled "mispelled" correctly.
Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> "Congenital Kano" <jrs...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rick Mather" <rickm...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
> >news:mtofrtgruob5g7idu...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 03:27:28 GMT, "Congenital Kano" <jrs...@home.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Rick Mather" <rickm...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
> >> >news:6ngfrt4sd65ulq1j7...@4ax.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> You misspelled "misspelled". But it wasn't a bad attempt considering
> >> >> the fact that you are the fattest kid on the short bus.
> >> >>
> >> >LOL! Now there's an inventive insult.
> >> >
> >> >Randy
> >> >
> >> go visit ssfa, the froup that Aaron stalks before you comment.
> >
> >ssfa?
> >
> >Randy
> >
Soc.support.fat-acceptance is a froup,
It's where fat-freaks hang out, looking for a pity party.
Fortunately, the agenda has been........changed.
We now tell them to shape up, or shut up.
>
> Gunner
>
> "The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the
> people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some
> rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no
> majority has a right to deprive them of."
> - Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789
>
> "Find out just what the people will submit to and you will have found
> out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon
> them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words
> or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance
> of those whom they oppress."
> - Frederick Douglass
seb...@thegrid.net
I think Lonnie is innocent (in this case). Looks to me like Rick
changed the subject line.
Sue
nosp...@notaol.com.invalid
>
>I think Lonnie is innocent (in this case). Looks to me like Rick
>changed the subject line.
>Sue
Any chance you and subsequent posters to this thread can remove
rec.gardens.roses from the distribution, as I have already done?
Thank you.
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Lonnie Courtney Clay
> Damian Harvey wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > > Rick Mather wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 30 Sep 2001 03:47:00 -0700, LCC...@aol.com (Lonnie Courtney Clay)
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com> wrote in message news:<9p4os5$3r7$0...@206.25.50.81>...
> > > > >> From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> > > > >> To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> > > > >> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> > > > >>
> > > > >> AGS, the recent creation of anti-gun billionaire (and a past board member
> > > > >> of the gun-ban lobby formally known as HCI) Andrew McKelvey, was conceived
> > > > >> as a public relations ploy to push the same old gun control agenda behind
> > > > >> the facade of "third way" centrist rhetoric. And despite its carefully
> > > > >> focus-grouped moniker, McKelvey`s creation has zero Americans for members
> > > > >> and nothing to do with gun safety programs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >"Andrew McKelvey" = anagram "Levy and wreck me".
> > > > >Sounds like "make my day"
> > > > >Lonnie Courtney Clay
> > > > There ya go, fixed the subject line for you fellers.
> > >
> >
> > You mispelled "anti-gun"
>
> Maybe I should clarify:
>
> > > > There ya go, fixed(*) the subject line for you fellers.
> ^^^^^
>
>
>
> (*) Lonnie changed "anti-gun" to pro-gun....thereby committing a fuck-up.
How now ? Guns or butter ? "Want a piece of candy mister ?" - from
Predator 2
>
> >
> > --
> > Great minds talk about ideas.
> > Average minds talk about events.
> > Small minds talk about people.
>
Boggled minds talk about minds - how well do you solve "Rubik's Cube"
?
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I thought that I was out of here, but apparently not. I found
something better than a gun - keyboards and speakers. Of course if I
were to have a gun in my hand, then I would have to decide what really
needed to be shot. I would rather not do that since there is a
reaction for every action, and my hand could get really sore. I have a
hard time deciding what should be today's theme song. At first I
thought that it should be "I got you babe" by Sonny and Cher. Then I
recalled "I Am Woman" by Helen Reddy. Currently I am thinking of "I am
gonna hire a wino to decorate our home". They all seem to be
appropriate to the times. Something fried the CD-ROM drive software
and the .wav software on my computer, so I am in a bad mood. If I had
a job, them my mood might just possibly improve....
Read my lips you say ?
Lonnie Courtney Clay - unemployed systems software engineer
Laurie-Ann Curry
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On 29 Sep 2001 15:20:37 GMT, "Ray Keller" <rayk...@theriver.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >From: <dssc...@earthlink.net>
> >To: <freedom...@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [freedoms_voice] NRA-ILA FAX Alert Vol. 8, No. 39 9/28/01
> >Date: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:07 AM
> >
> >ANTI-GUNNERS SHAMELESSLY EXPLOIT SEPTEMBER 11 TRAGEDIES
>
> snips for brevity:
>
> Well, Ray, around my parts ( Chicagoland ) people are buying up
> firearms faster than they did before the Y2K thingy. WTC happened on
> OUR SOIL. On our own turf. 6,700 dead, and who knows how many maimed
> for life. And now, the USA is going to War. National Guard will be
> appearing at many airports, and there are already *extra troops*
> guarding chemical weapons depots in my area.
>
> Just today, I put a 12 gauge riot gun with *special loads* into
> inventory. That 9mm pea-shooter I had is history. This is to be
> taken seriously. I think even the jackasses of the world ( HCI,
> Brady, etc ) are now aware of the danger of NOT being able to defend
> yourself, from enemies both foreign and domestic.
>
> Lg
When I went in last week to do my permit the gal at the sheriffs office told
me that she was doing twenty five to thirth permits a day and had been every
since 9/12. They had been making folks fill out the form then come back in
five days to pick it up to send in to the state police. Since we know
everyone they approved mine on the spot for which I am grateful. I ran into
a friend of ours last nightwho is a gun dealer and show promoter. He has
lost thousands of dollars on his advertising because most of the armories
where he does his shows have cancelled any non military activity. There is
one scheduled for bedford this weekend and nobody knows why they did not
cancel it. That money is non-recoupable. Sucks big time. He said he only
had twenty handguns in stock now and that was simply because he had not
advertised he had them. One of them is coming home with me shortly.
LA
Laurie-Ann Curry
Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:14:31 -0500, Laurie-Ann Curry
> <sut...@bluemarble.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Lawrence Glickman wrote:
> >When I went in last week to do my permit the gal at the sheriffs office told
> >me that she was doing twenty five to thirth permits a day and had been every
> >since 9/12.
>
> That sounds like a lot. But I don't know what size county/town you
> live in.....
We are a fairly small county and it is alot. Pegy told me the usual is maybe
that many a month. I haven't been back in to see if it has slowed down, surely
it has. We have alot of folks from Indianapolis moving down as it is a fairly
easy commute so maybe they are helping boost the number.
Down here might not be to bad a place to head MrG.
LA
nosp...@notaol.com.invalid
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 07:51:13 -0400 (EDT), "Sallie-Anne Taliban"
<s-no...@lly.park> wrote:
>Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
>> Gunner wrote:
>> >
>> > "Congenital Kano" <jrs...@home.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >"Rick Mather" <rickm...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
>> > >news:mtofrtgruob5g7idu...@4ax.com...
>> > >> On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 03:27:28 GMT, "Congenital Kano"
><jrs...@home.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Rick Mather" <rickm...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in message
>> > >> >news:6ngfrt4sd65ulq1j7...@4ax.com...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> You misspelled "misspelled". But it wasn't a bad attempt
>considering
>> > >> >> the fact that you are the fattest kid on the short bus.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >LOL! Now there's an inventive insult.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Randy
>> > >> >
>> > >> go visit ssfa, the froup that Aaron stalks before you comment.
>> > >
>> > >ssfa?
>> > >
>> > >Randy
>> > >
>> > froup?
>
>> Soc.support.fat-acceptance is a froup,
>
>> It's where fat-freaks hang out, looking for a pity party.
>It's where Aaron hangs out looking for fat girls who want their pussies
>gobbled.
>
>> Fortunately, the agenda has been........changed.
>Aaron has gained 300lbs in the last six months in an attempt to lure
>one of the poor women, Bobbie Sanchez, into bed with him.
>
>> We now tell them to shape up, or shut up.
>Aaron feeds them chocolate and tries to seduce them. Bobbie has a
>restraining order on Aaron.
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"Lawrence Glickman" <lgli...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:rbtnrt4s0c6ldjgon...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:14:31 -0500, Laurie-Ann Curry
> <sut...@bluemarble.net> wrote:
snip
> If I move East 20 minutes, I'm in Indiana, and can then get CCW. If I
> move south, no CCW. We ( family ) don't know _where_ we are going,
> except to get the f outa here. asap.
>
If you move 20 minutes East that should put you just about in Gary IN
wouldn't it? Hehe You'll NEED a CCW there..
Joe (In Carol Stream, IL)
David L. Moffitt
| On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:30:04 -0500, "KB9WFK" <KB9...@mindspring.com>
| I-65 just north of Lafayette.....
|
| Otoh, looks like anywhere along the Illinois/Indiana border is fine,
| as long as we're not talking about northern Lake County Indiana.
|
| Wife and I are looking forward to lower property taxes, less
| congestion, lower mortgage, more country. We want to live in the
| country. Have both seen enough of cities to last a couple lifetimes.
|
| The quality of life where I am now has deteriorated over the years to
| where the situation is now -intolerable-. Maybe there are worse
| places, but we know there are better also.
|
| Lg
%%%% Roll on down I-65 and come to Tennessee. We have carry permits,( you do
not have to conceal), no income taxes, and plenty of real country (including
the music).
David Moffitt Lifetime NRA,GOA,JPFO,SAS,TFA Member and BASTARDS----and damn
proud of it!
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no
vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
Barry Goldwater