Marine Corp General Gives Interesting Speech
mrostov
USMC.
"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something
that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside
group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very
few at the expense of the masses.
I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation
comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that
when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and
goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the
soldiers follow the flag.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment
of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the
defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other
reason is simply a racket.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind
to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to
destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss"
Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison.
Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in
active military service as a member of this country's most agile military
force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second
Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time
being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the
Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it.
Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my
own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended
animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with
everyone in the military service.
I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in
1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank
boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central
American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of
racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international
banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name
before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar
interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its
way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell
racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few
hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I
operated on three continents."
History67
the Bonus Army campaign in Washington. ( read up on what US Army did to US
Army Vetrans during th e Bonus Army episode, those of you who thing the army
will not slaughter civilians)
>Subject: Marine Corp General Gives Interesting Speech
>From: "mrostov" mro...@hotmailkillspam.com
>Date: 12/21/2000 1:43 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <wnh06.3334$lz1.6...@news.uswest.net>
NIXAONMYMIND
>Army Vetrans during th e Bonus Army episode, those of you who thing the army
>will not slaughter civilians)
>
Lead by that American hero Douglas MacArthur.
mm,
and inflamed by the Democrats. President Hoover used the following Generals
to lead Military Police armed with Billy Clubs and Tear Gas. (General
Douglas MacArthur, Colonel Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Major George S. Patton)
Major General Smedley Butler, to the best of my knowledge was not involved
in the physical removal of any Veterans or leading anyone in any type of
revolt.
History67 <hist...@aol.comTRASH> wrote in message
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History67
>Major General Smedley Butler, to the best of my knowledge was not involved
>in the physical removal of any Veterans or leading anyone in any type of
>revolt.
>
from Military leadership roles ( I guess It wasn't apparent inthe first reply)
>Subject: Re: Marine Corp General Gives Interesting Speech
>From: "mm," m...@hotmail.com
>Date: 12/21/2000 2:34 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <7Xs06.78496$I5.20...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>
NIXAONMYMIND
>and inflamed by the Democrats.
That is the biggest bunch of McCarthiest BS I have heard in a long time, and I
am so far right I make Reagan look like a New Dealer.
Shame on you for dishonoring our veterans. They were promised a bonus and the
government renegged.
Perhaps the communist party took part or supported it, but so did other
mainstream political parties, like the republicans and the democrats. It was a
very different time politically, and a parties stood for different values. For
example, the KKK held balloted candidates across the country.
Read up on what really happened to dispell the lies spread by that poster.
>President Hoover used the following Generals
>to lead Military Police armed with Billy Clubs and Tear Gas.
Is that supposed to soften the fact that there were men bayonetted at the Bonus
Town? Are you one of those lunatics who wrote that the Holocost didn't exist
too?
Strabo
Give this man a cigar!
mrostov wrote:
>
> Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler,
> USMC.
>
> "War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something
> that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside
> group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very
> few at the expense of the masses.
>
> I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation
> comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that
> when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and
> goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the
> soldiers follow the flag.
>
> I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment
> of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the
> defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other
> reason is simply a racket.
>
> There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind
> to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to
> destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss"
> Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
>
<snipped>
Strabo
I think that was McArthur that led the attack under Presidential
directive.
History67
1) Smedley was not a communist.
2) Commies did not organize the march
This was written by Brian R. Train, and used without permission ( taken from
http://www.islandnet.com/~citizenx/bonus.html )
Retired Marine General Smedley Butler, an immensely popular figure among
veterans and who had become a vocal opponent of the Hoover Administration,
participated in Bonus Army demonstrations and made inflammatory speeches (He
would be approached in 1933 by Fascist sympathisers in the American Legion, who
would try to involve him in an actual plot to seize power in a coup d'etat.).
It was alleged at the time that the March was directed by the Communist Party
of the USA in pursuit of a genuine revolution, but it has since been
established that the Party's only actual involvement was sending a small number
of agitators and speakers. Nevertheless, President Hoover considered the Bonus
Army Marchers a threat to public order and his personal safety. Contrary to
tradition, he did not attend the closing ceremonies for that session of
Congress on July 16 and many members left the Capitol building through
underground tunnels to avoid facing the demonstrators outside.
Many of the Marchers left Washington after Congress adjourned, but there were
still over 10,000 angry, restless veterans in the streets. On July 28, 1932,
two veterans were shot and killed by panicked policemen in a riot at the bottom
of Capitol Hill. This provided the final stimulus. Hoover told Patrick Hurley,
the Secretary of War, to tell General Douglas Macarthur, then the Army Chief of
Staff, that he wished the Bonus Army Marchers evicted from Washington. Troops
from nearby Forts Myer and Washington were ordered in to remove the Bonus Army
Marchers from the streets by force.
One battalion from the 12th Infantry Regiment and two squadrons of the 3rd
Cavalry Regiment (under the command of Major George S. Patton, who had taken
over as second in command of the Regiment less than three weeks earlier)
concentrated at the Ellipse just west of the White House. At 4:00 p.m. the
infantrymen donned gas masks and fixed bayonets, the cavalry drew sabres, and
the whole force (followed by several light tanks) moved down Pennsylvania
Avenue to clear it of people.
Against the advice of his assistant, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, Macarthur had
taken personal command of the operation. President Hoover had ordered Macarthur
to clear Pennsylvania Avenue only, but Macarthur immediately began to clear all
of downtown Washington, herding the Marchers out and torching their huts and
tents. Tear gas was used liberally and many bricks were thrown, but no shots
were fired during the entire operation. By 8:00 p.m. the downtown area had been
cleared and the bridge across the Anacostia River, leading to the Hooverville
where most of the Marchers lived, was blocked by several tanks.
That evening Hoover sent duplicate orders via two officers to Macarthur
forbidding him to cross the Anacostia to clear the Marchers' camp, but
Macarthur flatly ignored the President's orders, saying that he was 'too busy'
and could not be bothered by people coming down and pretending to bring
orders.' Macarthur crossed the Anacostia at 11:00 p.m., routed the marchers
along with 600 of their wives and children out of the camp, and burned it to
the ground. Then, incredibly, he called a press conference at midnight where he
praised Hoover for taking the responsibility for giving the order to clear the
camp. He said, 'Had the President not acted within 24 hours, he would have been
faced with a very grave situation, which would have caused a real battle....
Had he waited another week, I believe the institutions of our government would
have been threatened.' Patrick Hurley, the Secretary of War, was present at
this conference and praised Macarthur for his action in clearing the camp, even
though he too was aware that Hoover had given directly contrary orders. It was
this sort of insubordination and manipulation that would lead to Macarthur
being summarily relieved of his command of the UN forces in Korea in 1951.
The last of the Bonus Army Marchers left Washington by the end of the following
day. Hoover could not publicly disagree with his Chief of Staff and Secretary
of War, and ended up paying the political cost of this incident. The
possibility of widespread civil unrest growing into a popular revolution had
been averted, but the forceful eviction of the Bonus Army Marchers, even though
not one shot had been fired and only four people killed (the two demonstrators
who had been shot by the police and two infants asphyxiated by tear gas),
tilted public opinion against Hoover and ensured that he would lose the
upcoming election. Franklin Roosevelt was elected by a landslide that November
and, as they say, the rest is history.
History67
(1881-1940)
U.S. Marine commander
Twice awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, Gen. Butler was approached by
representatives of the Morgan Bank who offered to finance him to establish a
dictatorship of the United States to replace the Roosevelt government in 1932.
He refused and went to the press. A Congressional investigation was eventually
suppressed. See Jules Archer, The Plot to Seize the White House for a recent,
documented version of this well-publicised (in 1932) event.
Gunner
wrote:
>>It was pretty well proven that the Bonus Army was let by the Communist party
>>and inflamed by the Democrats.
>
>That is the biggest bunch of McCarthiest BS I have heard in a long time, and I
>am so far right I make Reagan look like a New Dealer.
Well actually.. there were a number of Communists in the group. Gotta
remember that Communism was not considered the Bad Thing © that it
turned out to be. It was quite popular, particularly amongst the
Labor unions.
>
>Shame on you for dishonoring our veterans. They were promised a bonus and the
>government renegged.
Welll....not exactly true either. The vets were promised a bonus, but
the due date was for a later time.. and with the advent ot the
Depression... the vets figured it was proper to get it early.
Now.. I dont at all agree with the actions of the Feral
Government..but legally..they had more law on their side than against
them.
>
>Perhaps the communist party took part or supported it, but so did other
>mainstream political parties, like the republicans and the democrats. It was a
>very different time politically, and a parties stood for different values. For
>example, the KKK held balloted candidates across the country.
>
>Read up on what really happened to dispell the lies spread by that poster.
>
>>President Hoover used the following Generals
>>to lead Military Police armed with Billy Clubs and Tear Gas.
>
>Is that supposed to soften the fact that there were men bayonetted at the Bonus
>Town? Are you one of those lunatics who wrote that the Holocost didn't exist
>too?
Oh yes, many men burnt to death as their ramshackle tents and shelters
were torched, many were beaten to death, run over by the tanks etc. A
horrible mistake undertaken by our loving Feral Government, but it
wasnt much differnt than Waco, etc etc etc.
Gunner
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"Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
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>. Gotta
> remember that Communism was not considered the Bad Thing © that it
> turned out to be
Communism is actually a great thing.
It just fails when applied to humans.
It works very well for ants and bees.
(Waiting for someone to take this out of context as "proof" that I'm a
communist.)
BSEEG
(Big Shit Eatin' Evil Grin)
(My file isn't nearly thick enough)
Noah Simoneaux
>
>"Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
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>>. Gotta
>> remember that Communism was not considered the Bad Thing © that it
>> turned out to be
>
>Communism is actually a great thing.
The same could probably be said for any political system in theory.
>
>It just fails when applied to humans.
The same could probably be said for any political system in reality. ;)
>
>It works very well for ants and bees.
>
>(Waiting for someone to take this out of context as "proof" that I'm a
>communist.)
I've been accused of being a communist because I was an atheist. If I ever
wanted to live in a communist country I could have easily gone to one, since I
was within inches of the border of one.
Noah Simoneaux
It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err. Mohandas K. Gandhi(1869-1948)
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