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pyotr filipivich

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:18:51 AM12/23/09
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"Very Interstink" as the saying goes.

From the Canadian National Post's Financial Post website:


Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia�s climate doctor
Posted: December 19, 2009, 2:49 AM by NP Editor

How Wikipedia�s green doctor rewrote 5,428 climate articles

By Lawrence Solomon

The Climategate Emails describe how a small band of climatologists
cooked the books to make the last century seem dangerously warm.

The emails also describe how the band plotted to rewrite history as
well as science, particularly by eliminating the Medieval Warm Period,
a 400 year period that began around 1000 AD.

The Climategate Emails reveal something else, too: the enlistment of
the most widely read source of information in the world � Wikipedia �
in the wholesale rewriting of this history.

The Medieval Warm Period, which followed the meanness and cold of the
Dark Ages, was a great time in human history � it allowed humans
around the world to bask in a glorious warmth that vastly improved
agriculture, increased life spans and otherwise bettered the human
condition.

But the Medieval Warm Period was not so great for some humans in our
own time � the same small band that believes the planet has now
entered an unprecedented and dangerous warm period. As we now know
from the Climategate Emails, this band saw the Medieval Warm Period as
an enormous obstacle in their mission of spreading the word about
global warming. If temperatures were warmer 1,000 years ago than
today, the Climategate Emails explain in detail, their message that we
now live in the warmest of all possible times would be undermined. As
put by one band member, a Briton named Folland at the Hadley Centre, a
Medieval Warm Period �dilutes the message rather significantly.�

Even before the Climategate Emails came to light, the problem posed by
the Medieval Warm Period to this band was known. �We have to get rid
of the Medieval Warm Period� read a pre-Climategate email, circa 1995,
as attested to at hearings of the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment
& Public Works. But the Climategate transcripts were more extensive
and more illuminating � they provided an unvarnished look at the
struggles that the climate practitioners underwent before settling on
their scientific dogma.

The Climategate Emails showed, for example, that some members of the
band were uncomfortable with aspects of their work, some even
questioning the need to erase the existence of the Medieval Warm
Period 1,000 years earlier.

Said Briffa, one of their chief practitioners: �I know there is
pressure to present a nice tidy story as regards �apparent
unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data�
but in reality the situation is not quite so simple. � I believe that
the recent warmth was probably matched about 1,000 years ago.�

In the end, Briffa and other members of the band overcame their doubts
and settled on their dogma. With the help of the United Nations
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the highest climate change
authority of all, they published what became the icon of their
movement � the hockey stick graph. This icon showed temperatures in
the last 1,000 years to have been stable � no Medieval Warm Period,
not even the Little Ice Age of a few centuries ago.

But the UN�s official verdict that the Medieval Warm Period had not
existed did not erase the countless schoolbooks, encyclopedias, and
other scholarly sources that claimed it had. Rewriting those would
take decades, time that the band members didn�t have if they were to
save the globe from warming.

Instead, the band members turned to their friends in the media and to
the blogosphere, creating a website called RealClimate.org. �The idea
is that we working climate scientists should have a place where we can
mount a rapid response to supposedly �bombshell� papers that are doing
the rounds� in aid of �combating dis-information,� one email
explained, referring to criticisms of the hockey stick and anything
else suggesting that temperatures today were not the hottest in
recorded time. One person in the nine-member Realclimate.org team �
U.K. scientist and Green Party activist William Connolley � would take
on particularly crucial duties.

Connolley took control of all things climate in the most used
information source the world has ever known � Wikipedia. Starting in
February 2003, just when opposition to the claims of the band members
were beginning to gel, Connolley set to work on the Wikipedia site. He
rewrote Wikipedia�s articles on global warming, on the greenhouse
effect, on the instrumental temperature record, on the urban heat
island, on climate models, on global cooling. On Feb. 14, he began to
erase the Little Ice Age; on Aug.11, the Medieval Warm Period. In
October, he turned his attention to the hockey stick graph. He rewrote
articles on the politics of global warming and on the scientists who
were skeptical of the band. Richard Lindzen and Fred Singer, two of
the world�s most distinguished climate scientists, were among his
early targets, followed by others that the band especially hated, such
as Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center
for Astrophysics, authorities on the Medieval Warm Period.

All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia
articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however,
through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator,
which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn�t
like the subject of a certain article, he removed it � more than 500
articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he
disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had
them barred � over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him
found themselves blocked from making further contributions. Acolytes
whose writing conformed to Connolley�s global warming views, in
contrast, were rewarded with Wikipedia�s blessings. In these ways,
Connolley turned Wikipedia into the missionary wing of the global
warming movement.

The Medieval Warm Period disappeared, as did criticism of the global
warming orthodoxy. With the release of the Climategate Emails, the
disappearing trick has been exposed. The glorious Medieval Warm Period
will remain in the history books, perhaps with an asterisk to describe
how a band of zealots once tried to make it disappear.

Read more:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
====

So, of course, Wikipedia having become a standard reference for a
lot of people (particularly school kids), this has a bad implication
for it's reliability, and objectivity, for any other "controversial"
subject. Nerts.


pyotr
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pyotr filipivich
What is normal?
"Two sigmas either side of mu.
You bring the cow." drieux.

rayk...@rnsmte.com

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:11:52 AM12/23/09
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"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Very Interstink" as the saying goes.
>
> From the Canadian National Post's Financial Post website:
>
>
> Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia's climate doctor
> Posted: December 19, 2009, 2:49 AM by NP Editor
>
> How Wikipedia's green doctor rewrote 5,428 climate articles
>
> By Lawrence Solomon
>
> The Climategate Emails describe how a small band of climatologists
> cooked the books to make the last century seem dangerously warm.
>
> The emails also describe how the band plotted to rewrite history as
> well as science, particularly by eliminating the Medieval Warm Period,
> a 400 year period that began around 1000 AD.
>
> The Climategate Emails reveal something else, too: the enlistment of
> the most widely read source of information in the world - Wikipedia -

> in the wholesale rewriting of this history.
>
> The Medieval Warm Period, which followed the meanness and cold of the
> Dark Ages, was a great time in human history - it allowed humans

> around the world to bask in a glorious warmth that vastly improved
> agriculture, increased life spans and otherwise bettered the human
> condition.
>
> But the Medieval Warm Period was not so great for some humans in our
> own time - the same small band that believes the planet has now

> entered an unprecedented and dangerous warm period. As we now know
> from the Climategate Emails, this band saw the Medieval Warm Period as
> an enormous obstacle in their mission of spreading the word about
> global warming. If temperatures were warmer 1,000 years ago than
> today, the Climategate Emails explain in detail, their message that we
> now live in the warmest of all possible times would be undermined. As
> put by one band member, a Briton named Folland at the Hadley Centre, a
> Medieval Warm Period "dilutes the message rather significantly."
>
> Even before the Climategate Emails came to light, the problem posed by
> the Medieval Warm Period to this band was known. "We have to get rid
> of the Medieval Warm Period" read a pre-Climategate email, circa 1995,
> as attested to at hearings of the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment
> & Public Works. But the Climategate transcripts were more extensive
> and more illuminating - they provided an unvarnished look at the

> struggles that the climate practitioners underwent before settling on
> their scientific dogma.
>
> The Climategate Emails showed, for example, that some members of the
> band were uncomfortable with aspects of their work, some even
> questioning the need to erase the existence of the Medieval Warm
> Period 1,000 years earlier.
>
> Said Briffa, one of their chief practitioners: "I know there is
> pressure to present a nice tidy story as regards 'apparent
> unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data'
> but in reality the situation is not quite so simple. . I believe that

> the recent warmth was probably matched about 1,000 years ago."
>
> In the end, Briffa and other members of the band overcame their doubts
> and settled on their dogma. With the help of the United Nations
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the highest climate change
> authority of all, they published what became the icon of their
> movement - the hockey stick graph. This icon showed temperatures in
> the last 1,000 years to have been stable - no Medieval Warm Period,

> not even the Little Ice Age of a few centuries ago.
>
> But the UN's official verdict that the Medieval Warm Period had not
> existed did not erase the countless schoolbooks, encyclopedias, and
> other scholarly sources that claimed it had. Rewriting those would
> take decades, time that the band members didn't have if they were to
> save the globe from warming.
>
> Instead, the band members turned to their friends in the media and to
> the blogosphere, creating a website called RealClimate.org. "The idea
> is that we working climate scientists should have a place where we can
> mount a rapid response to supposedly 'bombshell' papers that are doing
> the rounds" in aid of "combating dis-information," one email
> explained, referring to criticisms of the hockey stick and anything
> else suggesting that temperatures today were not the hottest in
> recorded time. One person in the nine-member Realclimate.org team -
> U.K. scientist and Green Party activist William Connolley - would take

> on particularly crucial duties.
>
> Connolley took control of all things climate in the most used
> information source the world has ever known - Wikipedia. Starting in

> February 2003, just when opposition to the claims of the band members
> were beginning to gel, Connolley set to work on the Wikipedia site. He
> rewrote Wikipedia's articles on global warming, on the greenhouse
> effect, on the instrumental temperature record, on the urban heat
> island, on climate models, on global cooling. On Feb. 14, he began to
> erase the Little Ice Age; on Aug.11, the Medieval Warm Period. In
> October, he turned his attention to the hockey stick graph. He rewrote
> articles on the politics of global warming and on the scientists who
> were skeptical of the band. Richard Lindzen and Fred Singer, two of
> the world's most distinguished climate scientists, were among his
> early targets, followed by others that the band especially hated, such
> as Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center
> for Astrophysics, authorities on the Medieval Warm Period.
>
> All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia
> articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however,
> through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator,
> which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn't
> like the subject of a certain article, he removed it - more than 500

> articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he
> disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had
> them barred - over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him

HH&C

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> Read more:http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19...

> ====
>
>         So, of course, Wikipedia having become a standard reference for a
> lot of people (particularly school kids), this has a bad implication
> for it's reliability, and objectivity,  for any other "controversial"
> subject.   Nerts.
>
> pyotr
> -  
> pyotr filipivich
> What is normal?
> "Two sigmas either side of mu.
>  You bring the cow."   drieux.

Curly loves Wikipedia

pyotr filipivich

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:51:22 AM12/24/09
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I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that "HH&C"
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> reported Elvis on Wed, 23 Dec 2009
19:38:11 -0800 (PST) in misc.survivalism:

>
>> The Medieval Warm Period disappeared, as did criticism of the global
>> warming orthodoxy. With the release of the Climategate Emails, the
>> disappearing trick has been exposed. The glorious Medieval Warm Period
>> will remain in the history books, perhaps with an asterisk to describe
>> how a band of zealots once tried to make it disappear.
>>
>> Read more:http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19...
>> ====
>>
>> � � � � So, of course, Wikipedia having become a standard reference for a
>> lot of people (particularly school kids), this has a bad implication
>> for it's reliability, and objectivity, �for any other "controversial"
>> subject. � Nerts.
>>
>> pyotr
>> - �
>> pyotr filipivich
>> What is normal?
>> "Two sigmas either side of mu.
>> �You bring the cow." � drieux.
>
>Curly loves Wikipedia

So did I.
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pyotr filipivich
Worse than trying to cite Marcel Marceu is quoting the Silent Majority.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Dec 24, 2009, 8:31:01 AM12/24/09
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It's great to have stalkers telling everyone what I think otherwise not
even I would know... </dripping sarcasm>

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vote Republican, Suffering Builds Character
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HH&C

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:46:10 AM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 8:31 am, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:51:22 -0800, pyotr filipivich
>
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that "HH&C"
> > <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com>  reported Elvis on Wed, 23 Dec 2009
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---

>               Vote Republican, Suffering Builds Character
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---

Merry Christmas and quit stalking me.

Lib Loo

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:17:19 PM12/24/09
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"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Curly thinks there is no Christmas.

HH&C

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On Dec 24, 12:17 pm, "Lib Loo" <heezb...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

He will. Someday when he is dying; he will first call out for his
Mom, then start praying to God.

Lib Loo

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:07:23 PM12/24/09
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"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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What a wasted life...sad.

HH&C

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:40:41 AM12/25/09
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He surrounds himself with Catholics and feeds off their goodwill.

If only they saw his rants about religion and people of faith in these
newsgroups.

Lib Loo

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They would forgive him.

Observer

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:11:35 PM12/30/09
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Spreading lies on the alleged birthday of your "Prince of peace?"
Wow. You really are a Christstain.

BTW, still waiting for you to remove your nose from my ass regarding
your claim about FDR.

>If only they saw his rants about religion and people of faith in these
>newsgroups.

I'm sure they have, but your hypocricy is more noticable. Outlandis,
actually.
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