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A.T. Hagan

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Aug 20, 2003, 9:42:25 PM8/20/03
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"Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
> Hullo all,
>
> Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style fiction
> for me?
> I've read very little science fiction (I think Dune is the only book that
> could apply), my readings have tended towards the fantasy end of the
> spectrum, but I wouldn't mind if the book was science fiction. Authors I
> like (don't know if this will help much) include Clive Cussler, Tom Clancy,
> George RR Martin, Steven Erikson, Frederick Forsyth, David Gemmell, Robert
> Jordan. Enjoy most sword and sorcery authors too.
> I think I'd prefer it if it was more fantasy than science fiction, but I'm
> open to anything you think is good.
> I hope I'm posting this in the right place, I assumed that by it's nature
> post apocolyptic fiction is pretty much automatically SF of some kind.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Mike


It seems that many of us define 'post apocalyptic' a little
differently. Nevertheless, I'll name a few that I've read that I'd
classify that way.

"Wolf and Iron" by Gordon Dickson. America after "things fall apart"
and a man's journey across the country to a place of refuge.

"Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle. Alien invasion story (they look
like small elephants with bifurcated trunks).

"Dust" by Charles Pelligrino. ALL of the insects on Earth die and the
consequences of that occurring.

"Aftermath" by Charles Sheffield. Earth experiences a nearby
supernova (relatively speaking) and receives a world wide
electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that fries virtually everything electronic
and plays hell with the weather south of the equator.

"Systemic Shock" by Dean Ing and the two sequels. Nasty
nuclear/biological war between the U.S./Russia and China/India with
the political ramifications thereof.

"Ariel" by Steven Boyett. Not SF, but fantasy in that magic suddenly
comes back into the world along with a number of magical creatures
while much advanced technology suddenly stops working.

There's a great deal more than that in the field, but at the moment
those are the ones that come to mind that haven't already been
mentioned. Just at the moment we're 'organizing' the house again so I
can't find half my book collection to skim for titles.

.....Alan.

StrikitRich

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Aug 20, 2003, 10:13:18 PM8/20/03
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in article cfae5f4f.03082...@posting.google.com, A.T. Hagan at ath...@atlantic.net wrote on 8/20/03 21:42:


> "Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
>> Hullo all,
>>
>> Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style fiction
>> for me?
>> I've read very little science fiction (I think Dune is the only book that
>> could apply), my readings have tended towards the fantasy end of the
>> spectrum, but I wouldn't mind if the book was science fiction. Authors I
>> like (don't know if this will help much) include Clive Cussler, Tom Clancy,
>> George RR Martin, Steven Erikson, Frederick Forsyth, David Gemmell, Robert
>> Jordan. Enjoy most sword and sorcery authors too.
>> I think I'd prefer it if it was more fantasy than science fiction, but I'm
>> open to anything you think is good.
>> I hope I'm posting this in the right place, I assumed that by it's nature
>> post apocolyptic fiction is pretty much automatically SF of some kind.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>> Mike
>

I'm currently reading James P. Hogan's Cradle of Saturn, which I would describe as apocalyptic science fiction.  Its sequel, The Anguished Dawn is certainly post-apocalyptic SF.

SR1

Unknown

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Aug 20, 2003, 10:44:22 PM8/20/03
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On 20 Aug 2003 18:42:25 -0700, ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan)
wrote:

you forgot "Armagooners go Butthump Looney with the Backwoods
Browngirls," by Condoleeezer Oats.

maybe you left it in the field.

ThunderHawk

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Aug 21, 2003, 2:25:00 AM8/21/03
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> > Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
fiction
> > for me?


Patriots, TEOTWAWKI, and Triple Ought
Lucifer's Hammer, by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven (I really liked this
one)
Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank (Classic nuke scenario)
Pulling Through by Dean Ing (a more modern nuke scenario + a mini nuke
survival manual)
Some Will Not Die by Algis Budrys (Total plague wipe out scenario)
No Blade of Grass by John Christopher (Massive crop disease/social breakdown
scenario from the British perspective...)
Vandenberg by Oliver Lange (Invasion scenario)

And...

Unintended Consequences by John Ross. (Small scale CW II scenario.) Due to
its political incorrectness, it is hard to find in libraries. I highly
recommend it (except for the kinky sex scenes, which detracted from an
otherwise top-notch novel.)

I also like an adventure series of books written by William W. Johnston.
Starting with From out of the Ashes. All titles end with the word Ashes.

ThunderHawk

Tim May

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Aug 21, 2003, 2:52:38 AM8/21/03
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In article <10614471...@news-1.nethere.net>, ThunderHawk
<thund...@nethere.com> wrote:

> > > Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
> fiction
> > > for me?
>
>
> Patriots, TEOTWAWKI, and Triple Ought
> Lucifer's Hammer, by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven (I really liked this
> one)
> Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank (Classic nuke scenario)
> Pulling Through by Dean Ing (a more modern nuke scenario + a mini nuke
> survival manual)
> Some Will Not Die by Algis Budrys (Total plague wipe out scenario)
> No Blade of Grass by John Christopher (Massive crop disease/social breakdown
> scenario from the British perspective...)
> Vandenberg by Oliver Lange (Invasion scenario)
>
> And...
>
> Unintended Consequences by John Ross. (Small scale CW II scenario.) Due to
> its political incorrectness, it is hard to find in libraries. I highly
> recommend it (except for the kinky sex scenes, which detracted from an
> otherwise top-notch novel.)


Well, ThunderHawk, you're either James Wesley, Rawles, or you're
plagiarizing him. This is what he (you?) had on his Web site:

<http://www.rawles.to/appb.htm>

--begin excerpt--

Lucifer's Hammer, by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven

Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank (Classic nuke scenario)
Pulling Through by Dean Ing (a more modern nuke scenario + a mini nuke
survival manual)
Some Will Not Die by Algis Budrys (Total plague wipe out scenario)
No Blade of Grass by John Christopher (Massive crop disease/social
breakdown scenario from the British perspective...)
Vandenberg by Oliver Lange (Invasion scenario)

And...

Unintended Consequences by John Ross. (Small scale CW II scenario.)
Due to its political incorrectness, it is hard to find in libraries. I
highly recommend it (except for the kinky sex scenes, which detracted
from an otherwise top-notch novel.)

--end excerpt--

The reason I checked is because I remembered the mention a few years
ago of "kinky sex" in someone's review of "Unintended Consequences." So
I Googled the obvious terms to find who had used this language before.

So, if you're Mr. Rawles, welcome! (And I wish I had bought that
paperback copy of "Vandenberg" before the other guy saw it, back at
your table at the San Jose Gun Show in '99.)

If you're _not_ Mr. Rawles, shame on you for using his precise words.

--Tim May

Rob

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Aug 21, 2003, 9:29:51 AM8/21/03
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In article <10614471...@news-1.nethere.net>, "ThunderHawk" <thund...@nethere.com> wrote:
>
>> > Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
>fiction
>> > for me?
>No Blade of Grass by John Christopher (Massive crop disease/social breakdown
>scenario from the British perspective...)

Also known as Death of Grass.

Jamie Hart

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:03:35 AM8/21/03
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"A.T. Hagan" <ath...@atlantic.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
> > Hullo all,
> >
> > Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
fiction
> > for me?
> > I've read very little science fiction (I think Dune is the only book
that
> > could apply), my readings have tended towards the fantasy end of the
> > spectrum, but I wouldn't mind if the book was science fiction. Authors I
> > like (don't know if this will help much) include Clive Cussler, Tom
Clancy,
> > George RR Martin, Steven Erikson, Frederick Forsyth, David Gemmell,
Robert
> > Jordan. Enjoy most sword and sorcery authors too.
> > I think I'd prefer it if it was more fantasy than science fiction, but
I'm
> > open to anything you think is good.
> > I hope I'm posting this in the right place, I assumed that by it's
nature
> > post apocolyptic fiction is pretty much automatically SF of some kind.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > Mike
>

Missed the original post so I'll jump in here. Sorry Alan.

Mike,

If you like fantasy then you might like Robert Adams' Horseclans series too.
Sort of a cross between SF/fantasy, set about 500 years after a nuclear war.

RameyHS

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Aug 21, 2003, 11:16:43 AM8/21/03
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"False Dawn"
By Chelsa Quinn Yarboro

and

"A Secret History of Time to Come"
Robie Macualey

"Earth Abides"
George R. Stewart

"Long Voyage Back"
Luke Rhinehart

"Solar Flare"
Larry Burkett

"War Day"
Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka

"Nature's End"
Whitley Strieber and James Kunetka

"After the Bomb"
Gloria D. Miklowitz

Noah Simoneaux

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Aug 21, 2003, 1:11:45 PM8/21/03
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On 20 Aug 2003 18:42:25 -0700, ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan) wrote:

>"Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
>> Hullo all,
>>
>> Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style fiction
>> for me?
>> I've read very little science fiction (I think Dune is the only book that
>> could apply), my readings have tended towards the fantasy end of the
>> spectrum, but I wouldn't mind if the book was science fiction. Authors I
>> like (don't know if this will help much) include Clive Cussler, Tom Clancy,
>> George RR Martin, Steven Erikson, Frederick Forsyth, David Gemmell, Robert
>> Jordan. Enjoy most sword and sorcery authors too.
>> I think I'd prefer it if it was more fantasy than science fiction, but I'm
>> open to anything you think is good.
>> I hope I'm posting this in the right place, I assumed that by it's nature
>> post apocolyptic fiction is pretty much automatically SF of some kind.

(snip & piggybacking)

I recently re-read one from my list, Those Who Favor Fire, by Marta Randall.
Pretty good book.
Anyone who thinks there is some good in everyone hasn't interviewed enough people.

Eastman's Personnel Director's Law

Freddie

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Aug 21, 2003, 6:57:07 PM8/21/03
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I recommend the "Wolf and Iron" by Gordon Dickson. It is rather to the
point on several interesting topics like the dangerousness of trading,
animal attacks, safe water and personal defense. I won't lie; it does get
a little mushy (love interest) in a few places but not enough to make you
blush.

"Farmham's Freehold" by Robert Heinlein is good survival science fiction.
The book is a straight forward in regard to group preparedness/survival
and the importance of solid leadership after a nuclear attack but the
plot swings to the science fiction after the first half.


"Guns don't kill people. The Government does."
- Dale Gribble

"... and I ran out of ammo. That's never happened before!"
- Bert Gummer
ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan) wrote in
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> "Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
>> Hullo all,
>>
>> Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
>> fiction for me?
>> I've read very little science fiction (I think Dune is the only book
>> that could apply), my readings have tended towards the fantasy end of
>> the spectrum, but I wouldn't mind if the book was science fiction.
>> Authors I like (don't know if this will help much) include Clive
>> Cussler, Tom Clancy, George RR Martin, Steven Erikson, Frederick
>> Forsyth, David Gemmell, Robert Jordan. Enjoy most sword and sorcery
>> authors too. I think I'd prefer it if it was more fantasy than
>> science fiction, but I'm open to anything you think is good.
>> I hope I'm posting this in the right place, I assumed that by it's
>> nature post apocolyptic fiction is pretty much automatically SF of
>> some kind.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>> Mike
>

>--


Clark McIvor

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Aug 22, 2003, 12:52:41 AM8/22/03
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A.T. Hagan <ath...@atlantic.net> wrote in article
<cfae5f4f.03082...@posting.google.com>...

> It seems that many of us define 'post apocalyptic' a little
> differently. Nevertheless, I'll name a few that I've read that I'd
> classify that way.
>
> "Wolf and Iron" by Gordon Dickson. America after "things fall apart"
> and a man's journey across the country to a place of refuge.
>
>
> "Dust" by Charles Pelligrino. ALL of the insects on Earth die and the
> consequences of that occurring.
>

This title has brought to mind:

_Children of the Dust_ by Louise Lawrence (a UK writer of YA) - some
catastrophe has occurred (only known to the protagonists as a sort of
dust).

One group of survivors have been in an underground bunker & emerge a few
years later. The other survivors are random survivors from the countryside,
some of which have gravitated together. The 2 groups meet up, with
suspicion on the bunker side (they being of a military bent).

Jane

Schon

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Aug 22, 2003, 7:21:55 AM8/22/03
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A.T. Hagan <ath...@atlantic.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike C" <bonot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<mcSWa.25793$pK2....@news.indigo.ie>...
> > Hullo all,
> >
> > Wondering if anyone could recommend come good post apolypse style
fiction
> > for me?
(snip)> mentioned. Just at the moment we're 'organizing' the house again so

I
> can't find half my book collection to skim for titles.
>
> .....Alan.

Are you the A T Hagan who used to post here ages ago ? (Food storage etc)
Where have you been ? or have you been here wearing a different hat ?
(Welcome back if thats you)

Schon


Scott Lurndal

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Aug 22, 2003, 5:24:49 PM8/22/03
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"Clark McIvor" <clar...@gil.com.au> writes:

>This title has brought to mind:
>
>_Children of the Dust_ by Louise Lawrence (a UK writer of YA) - some
>catastrophe has occurred (only known to the protagonists as a sort of
>dust).
>
>One group of survivors have been in an underground bunker & emerge a few
>years later. The other survivors are random survivors from the countryside,
>some of which have gravitated together. The 2 groups meet up, with
>suspicion on the bunker side (they being of a military bent).
>
>Jane

_The Girl who Owned a City_ (O.T. Nelson) is another YA post-apocalypse
story.

scott

A.T. Hagan

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Aug 25, 2003, 10:28:29 AM8/25/03
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"Schon" <sc...@surfnetcity.aunz.com> wrote in message news:<newscache$7up0kh$qdo$1...@mars.dataline.net.au>...

> Are you the A T Hagan who used to post here ages ago ? (Food storage etc)
> Where have you been ? or have you been here wearing a different hat ?
> (Welcome back if thats you)
>
> Schon

I am he.

Thought I'd drop in and see the old home place so to speak. Same
awful noise problem, but still some good discussion if you can sift
out the crap.

I see some familiar names are still here. Howdy folks.

.....Alan.

Gunner

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Aug 25, 2003, 1:09:34 PM8/25/03
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On 25 Aug 2003 07:28:29 -0700, ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan)
wrote:

>"Schon" <sc...@surfnetcity.aunz.com> wrote in message news:<newscache$7up0kh$qdo$1...@mars.dataline.net.au>...

Welcome back!!!!!!!!

Gunner

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better,
on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee,
but why this is more stylish than
sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
-- P.J O'Rourke (1989)
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Chris

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Aug 25, 2003, 3:49:16 PM8/25/03
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FYI

I'm reading Nature's End by Whitley Strieber & James Junetka (also wrote
Warday) I picked up at our local library annual book sale for 50 cents
hardback.

Not really post apocalyptic - more along the lines of overpopulation and the
impact on the earth. Of course the "villian" proposes Depopulation - 1/3 of
the planet voluntarily committing suicide to save the world. (I'm only about
a 1/4 of the way through it.)

I imagine most of you hear have heard of it or read it but I thought I'd
pass along the info in response to the original post.

Chris


erniegalts

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:14:35 PM8/25/03
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Yep, have it, have started it a few times, but haven't ever finished
it?

Why? Well suppose the main reason is that lost total respect for the
man after he claimed contact with aliens and published fiction as
fact.

Which he has since admitted, actually, but hasn't offered buyers
refunds on his books.

However, if you want to read it, OK. Let us know how it turns out.
:-)

erniegalts

Bill Seward

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:42:17 PM8/25/03
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ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan), hoping against hope for wisdom from
USENET, wrote:

>"Schon" <sc...@surfnetcity.aunz.com> wrote in message news:<newscache$7up0kh$qdo$1...@mars.dataline.net.au>...
>> Are you the A T Hagan who used to post here ages ago ? (Food storage etc)
>> Where have you been ? or have you been here wearing a different hat ?
>> (Welcome back if thats you)
>>
>> Schon
>
>I am he.

Greetings Mr. Hagan! Nice to see one of the older, saner voices of
the group return.


---------------------------------
Bill Seward, KG4SAQ
http://web.northstate.net/~seward

erniegalts

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:47:13 PM8/25/03
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:42:17 -0400, Bill Seward
<sew...@northstate.net> wrote:

>ath...@atlantic.net (A.T. Hagan), hoping against hope for wisdom from
>USENET, wrote:
>
>>"Schon" <sc...@surfnetcity.aunz.com> wrote in message news:<newscache$7up0kh$qdo$1...@mars.dataline.net.au>...
>>> Are you the A T Hagan who used to post here ages ago ? (Food storage etc)
>>> Where have you been ? or have you been here wearing a different hat ?
>>> (Welcome back if thats you)
>>>
>>> Schon
>>
>>I am he.
>
>Greetings Mr. Hagan! Nice to see one of the older, saner voices of
>the group return.

Seconded, Alan. May we ask where you have been?

erniegalts

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