This Might Help
knews4...@yahoo.com
A friend sent this along to me. I can't think of a reason to
disagree.
I am sending this to virtually everybody on my e-mail list and that
includes conservatives, liberals, and everybody in between. Even
though we disagree on a number of issues, I count all of you as
friends.. My friend and neighbor wants to promote a "Congressional
Reform Act of 2010". It would contain eight provisions, all of which
would probably be strongly endorsed by those who drafted the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Congress has the lowest approval of any entity in Government, the
entity that represents us.
We need to get a Senator to introduce this bill in the US Senate and a
Representative to introduce a similar bill in the US House. These
people will become American hero's.. Please send any ideas on how to
get this done.
Thanks,
A Fellow American
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Congressional Reform Act of 2010
1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.
A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no
pay when they are out of office.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social
Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social
Security system, Congress participates with the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all
Americans.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional
pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
6. Congress looses their current health care system and participates
in the same health care system as the American people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American
people.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective
1/1/11.
The American people did not make this contract with congressmen,
congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding
Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(s), then go
home and back to work.
If you agree with the above, pass it on to all in your address list.
If not, just delete.
Uncle Al
Hypocenter. Congress is a criminal enterprise grown tired of its
10%. It is now looting the entire public treasury and its credit
lines.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
knews4...@yahoo.com
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
>
> [snip]
>
> Hypocenter. Congress is a criminal enterprise grown tired of its
> 10%. It is now looting the entire public treasury and its credit
> lines.
>
> --
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
You won't get any argument about your statement from me.
Frank
> knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
> [snip]
>
> Hypocenter. Congress is a criminal enterprise grown tired of its
> 10%. It is now looting the entire public treasury and its credit
> lines.
>
When I first saw this in an email and passed it on, I suggested for
every year in office, they should have to spend a year in prison.
Bob Eld
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That's all well and good but it can NEVER happen. Secondly it really does
not address what is actually wrong with Congress and that is the flow of
money and how people in congress have to constantly raise it to run. Your
plan actually increases the need for money because it creates more turnover.
The constant need to raise money makes Congressional members beholden to the
moneyed interests, corporate lobbyists and others with deep pockets. The
average citizen and voter is not represented at all, he has no money. This
is plain to see in the health care legislation winding its way through today
but it affects all congressional acts and decisions. Congress works for the
best interest of the money and that's ALL.
What's really needed is reform of the way in which money is raised and how
it affects individual members and how much they need to run for office. Also
we need to abandon the idiotic notion that money and the spending of by the
various interests is a form of free speech protected by the constitution.
Thirdly donations from lobbyists, PACs, Corporations and other sources
should NEVER go to specific Congressman, Senator, Committee member or Chair.
All moneys should go to a general Congressional fund to be equally
distributed. These are a few ideas, there are many more that could actually
fix Congress.
Strabo
What your analysis lacks is the reference to 'minimal government.'
Minimal government means that the central government is authorized to
do only what the Constitution says.
Since most legislation passed by Congress is unconstitutional, all
federal programs, entitlements and agencies must be dismantled as
they are each unconstitutional.
Additionally, the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments must be repealed,
the Federal Reserve Act, Income Tax Act and all other acts, must be
revoked.
Bingo! There's your new government - and it will run on money
collected from imports and exports, hence no lobbying or taxation of
citizens.
Just think, no more social engineering, no more undeclared wars,
no more bribery of the states!
Why do this? To survive as a nation and culture.
When to do this? As soon as possible.
Retief
wrote:
[don't know what this has to do with the sci groups -- followups
restricted]
>What your analysis lacks is the reference to 'minimal government.'
>Minimal government means that the central government is authorized to
>do only what the Constitution says.
Whereas, our totalitarian "friends" (both here and elsewhere) believe
that the government should have all power, and grant "rights" (i.e.
privileges) to individuals -- so they may be revoked on a whim.
>Since most legislation passed by Congress is unconstitutional, all
>federal programs, entitlements and agencies must be dismantled as
>they are each unconstitutional.
I say we add an amendment that makes it treason to enact and enforce
unConstitutional statutes. Congress, the president and the Courts
_should_ be afraid of the people -- and prosecuted if the commit such
crimes.
>Additionally, the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments must be repealed,
>the Federal Reserve Act, Income Tax Act and all other acts, must be
>revoked.
I would add one additional amendment, that makes all federal code
sunset (say, in 5 years -- though even that may be too long). Require
that every line be brought up, reviewed and re-passed. This would
remove the problem that politically inconvenient acts (while they may
be Constitutional, they can still be poor implementations) -- they can
be allowed to quietly go away. Not pretty, but expedient (should help
greatly reduce the amount of junk on the books).
>Bingo! There's your new government - and it will run on money
>collected from imports and exports, hence no lobbying or taxation of
>citizens.
Or, to put it another way, the restoration of our old government.
Retief
Dan
Yeah, and why the public option is hardly a consideration.
Dan
Dan
Actually, not true, for a variety of reasons, but we've been over this
ground countless times.
Dan
Dan
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:30:23 -0500, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net>
> wrote:
>
> [don't know what this has to do with the sci groups -- followups
> restricted]
>
>> What your analysis lacks is the reference to 'minimal government.'
>> Minimal government means that the central government is authorized to
>> do only what the Constitution says.
>
> Whereas, our totalitarian "friends" (both here and elsewhere) believe
> that the government should have all power, and grant "rights" (i.e.
> privileges) to individuals -- so they may be revoked on a whim.
Well, >>I<< certainly didn't vote for any Republicans, so don't blame ME.
>> Since most legislation passed by Congress is unconstitutional, all
>> federal programs, entitlements and agencies must be dismantled as
>> they are each unconstitutional.
>
> I say we add an amendment that makes it treason to enact and enforce
> unConstitutional statutes. Congress, the president and the Courts
> _should_ be afraid of the people -- and prosecuted if the commit such
> crimes.
The we would need to purge the SCOTUS of Republicans...
>> Additionally, the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments must be repealed,
>> the Federal Reserve Act, Income Tax Act and all other acts, must be
>> revoked.
>
> I would add one additional amendment, that makes all federal code
> sunset (say, in 5 years -- though even that may be too long). Require
> that every line be brought up, reviewed and re-passed. This would
> remove the problem that politically inconvenient acts (while they may
> be Constitutional, they can still be poor implementations) -- they can
> be allowed to quietly go away. Not pretty, but expedient (should help
> greatly reduce the amount of junk on the books).
That's already what happens when bipartisan support cannot be achieved.
A lot of important civil rights protections would go out the window...
Can you say "baby with bathwater?"
>> Bingo! There's your new government - and it will run on money
>> collected from imports and exports, hence no lobbying or taxation of
>> citizens.
>
> Or, to put it another way, the restoration of our old government.
The one that never existed, even on paper...
Rose-colored rear-view mirrors can be SO deceiving.
Dan
Androcles
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> On 1/8/2010 7:35 PM, Uncle Al wrote:
>
>
> >> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
> > [snip]
>
> > Hypocenter. Congress is a criminal enterprise grown tired of its
> > 10%. It is now looting the entire public treasury and its credit
> > lines.
>
> When I first saw this in an email and passed it on, I suggested for
> every year in office, they should have to spend a year in prison.
They'll just teach the other inmates rotten tricks...