Wingers to rewrite history
Cliff
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>Wingers to rewrite history
>
>Hell, you guys on the left wing have been doing that for centuries.
I guess you missed the link:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6962317.ece
HTH
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Cliff
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6962317.ece
How does stealing that sign rewrite history? Its existence can't be
denied. There are far too many photographs of it out there.
Another chapter has just been written. "Some nut case steals historic
sign".
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Gunner Asch
<pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
>Cliff wrote:
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6962317.ece
>
>How does stealing that sign rewrite history? Its existence can't be
>denied. There are far too many photographs of it out there.
>
>Another chapter has just been written. "Some nut case steals historic
>sign".
"Polish police suspect that the culprits were either neo-Nazis or acting
on behalf of collectors or a group of individuals. "
Now thats a suspicion we can work on, eh wot?
Gunner
Lib Loo
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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It was stolen by libs. If it was right-wingers that took it, the would have
replaced it with two larger ones.
HH&C
> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> >On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:58:20 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
> >>Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
> >>>Wingers to rewrite history
>
> >>Hell, you guys on the left wing have been doing that for centuries.
>
> > I guess you missed the link:
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6962317.ece
>
> Party.
>
> Yup, you wingers just don't give up until you get everything your way.
> Has Obama ever been a paper hanger?
He is now.
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:58:20 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wingers to rewrite history
>>>
>>>Hell, you guys on the left wing have been doing that for centuries.
>>
>> I guess you missed the link:
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6962317.ece
>
>Undoubtedly neo-Nazis - as in National Socialist German Workers'
>Party.
>Yup, you wingers just don't give up until you get everything your way.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22neo-Nazis%22+%22right-wing%22
>Has Obama ever been a paper hanger?
Probably has his degrees & honors someplace.
Rush & the Faux heads may have their claimed HS diplomas. May.
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Cliff
pyotr filipivich
about Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:15:53 -0800 did write/type or cause to
appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
http://www.gloria-center.org/Gloria/2009/12/auschwitz-sign
How the Auschwitz Sign Claiming that "Work Makes Free" Embodies
Current Western Thinking and Policy
By Barry Rubin *
December 21, 2009
"The theft and then recovery of the famous sign at the entrance of
Auschwitz-Arbeit macht frei, work will make you free-has brought that
artifact of the Holocaust to international attention once again.
Merely dismissing the sign as "cynical," few understand the meaning of
the sign in context and its underlying implications for Jewish thought
and Israel today.
At the time--and this was very clear in Eastern European towns like
that of my grandparents in Poland-- Jews were used by the Germans for
forced labor. While many were involved in road repair (an extremely
important task during the war when highways were heavily used by the
Nazis for military purposes), tree cutting, or other manual labor,
others labored in their usual professions.
The Germans, of course, wanted to win the war, which they were waging,
despite their victories, against difficult odds. Even after the French
were defeated and the British retreated across the Channel, the combat
was ferocious against the Soviets and the United Kingdom fought on. In
pragmatic terms, the Germans needed Jewish labor. After all, too, they
could hardly be receiving it under better circumstances. The Jews were
not paid for the work, they were denied consumer goods, and their food
rations were minimal.
In short, the German strategy toward the Jews-focusing on forced
labor-made sense in pragmatic terms. And Western civilization is
governed by pragmatism. One does what is beneficial to one's material
self-interests. The German behavior made sense."
[some observations about the willingness to believe the other side is
'pragmatic' and that They are more like Us than not. Most of the time
that works. It didn't in 1934 with the True Believers of Aryanism, it
isn't in the current confrontation with True Believers of Jihad.]
"The key here is the Western obsession with pragmatism, the dismissal
of ideology, and the wishful thinking that believes conflict can be
negotiated away or at least whittled down to the tolerable level by
patience and concession. These were also the fundamental ideas that
motivated both most European Jews and the expectations of most Western
leaders and observers regarding the treatment of the Jews during the
war (and in many cases, German intentions before the war as well).
This mode of thinking is still very much with us."
[...]
"Of course, the Germans lost World War Two and their anti-pragmatism
hastened that defeat. This, too, is worth keeping in mind. That is a
factor to be used in the setting of strategy by democratic states and
in the thinking of their people. Assuming they will act in the
opposite way will not, however, strengthen that resistance.
Yet the greatest threat to the West of all is the mistaken belief that
if we are really polite and avoid giving offense, that if we make
concessions or work really hard we will be free of their threat. We
have set up our own signs at the entrances to our universities and
foreign ministries that are the precise equivalent of Arbeit macht
frei."
Something to think about.
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Cliff
>What's with your continuous baiting?
>
>You know quite well I have often said Rush and FOX are bullshit
>sources.
>
>Yet your replies to me are often some zinger against them.
>
>1. I'm not going to rise to their defense because they ARE bullshit.
>
>2. It only shows up that you have no reply so you go for what you
>"think" is an effective cheap shot.
>
>Come on Cliff. Liberals are not stupid as a group. You are giving
>them a bad reputation.
Wingers have become a bit shy ...
John Q Public
<Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> said:
The
>
only ones really modifying history over the years are the
left through their good friends in the NEA
Curly Surmudgeon
Were you napping through 2000-2008?
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who passed through the gates of Auschwitz didn't live for more than a
few weeks. Or perhaps only days. Nobody was getting any work out of
them.
The most probable intent of that sign was to make them believe that they
were entering a labor camp and keep them from panicking.
Pretty much the same thing as not letting cattle entering a slaughter
house see the killing just ahead.
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John Q Public
What, you think the left stopped then?
More GWB syndrome again, didn't see him rewriting anything though your side
wants to blame lenders for mandating covering subprime loans through
Fannie & Freddie
thus eliminating your (The dems) responsibility in this, if that isn't
a rewrite I don't know
what is!
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"John Q Public" <my2c...@me.com> wrote in message
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The repuglis had six years to make it right.
The bottom line is that they did not.
Gunner Asch
During those 6 yrs..they tried twice. Both times..Demonrats voted it
down.
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/bush_entire_economy_is_in_dang.html
Snicker...read the Comments below the article..from the Obamanaughts.
Laugh laugh laugh!!
And of course..the smoking gun that shows the Demonrats caused the Great
Depression Part Deux
http://www.politicalmachine.com/article/325306/Bush_Tried_to_Overhaul_Housing_Finance_Industry
Suck it up Leftwingers...in less than 3 yrs..the People are going to
rise up and kill you all.
Shrug..works for me.
Gunner
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
Uh Gunner. You must have not gotten the memo on the repuglis controlling
both Houses and the Whitehouse for six years.
Try to keep up, homeslice.
Curly Surmudgeon
Then your answer to my question is a resounding "YES, I was sleeping from
2000 through 2008."
> though your side wants to
"Your[my] side"? WTF are you babbling about.
> blame lenders for
> mandating covering subprime loans through Fannie & Freddie
> thus eliminating your (The dems) responsibility in this, if that isn't a
> rewrite I don't know
> what is!
Uhm, the topic is rewriting history. Just because you got caught in an
indefensible distraction doesn't justify a complete segue.
"Compassionate Conservatives"
"My first priority is Osama bin Laden"
"I will not "Nation-Build""
"Saddam has Weapons of Mass Destruction, we must invade!"
"We must stabilize Iraq"
"Al Quaeda is in Iraq"
(a trillion dollars later)
"I would have acted in Iraq even if there weren't WMD's"
"Osama who?"
Curly Surmudgeon
<ki...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
Don't get sucked into that argument, it's false and naught but a
distraction.
Curly Surmudgeon
<ki...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
I believe Republicans have controlled Congress 15 of the last 25 years
but this segue is nothing but a distraction from the topic. The Right
Wing Wackos desperately want to rewrite history to mask their panopoly of
fuckups. They've fucked up everything from infrastructure to our world
reputation, economy, national debt and international relations. In fact
the only thing right they've done is improve the Veterans Administration.
Given that the Republicans have committed fuckups of Biblical proportion
they have little option but to lie and distract or they'd be unelectable.
Gunner Asch
<ki...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
You must have gotten the memo that the 6 yrs the Repubs controlled both
houses ended 3 yrs ago. <G>
The last 3 yrs has been under the control of the Left. You know that
the President has to deal with Congress..not the other way around, do
you not?
Im not sure that you actually do understand this. The fact that the Left
has been controlling the money supply and the purse for the past 3
yrs...seems to have escaped you. But thats normal..you are one of the
lower intelligence Leftards..so its understandable that you are unable
to comprehend this fact.
<VBG>
And look at the fuckup the Left has created. Shrug..no big deal. In
less then 3 yrs..the People will simply kill all of you and struggle to
get the nation back to the Constitutional Default settings.
Works for me.
Gunner
pyotr filipivich
P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> reported Elvis on Wed, 23 Dec 2009
21:58:44 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>I think this is over thinking the meaning of that sign. Most of the Jews
>who passed through the gates of Auschwitz didn't live for more than a
>few weeks. Or perhaps only days. Nobody was getting any work out of
>them.
>
>The most probable intent of that sign was to make them believe that they
>were entering a labor camp and keep them from panicking.
That _is_ the point of the article. People cannot believe that
someone else is not as "pragmatic" as they themselves are. Oppression
of Jews was an old event in Europe. So the Jews the 3rd Reich
realized that the 3rd Reich was reverting "to type" and oppressing
Jews. Slave labor once again - didn't that happen under the Pharaohs?
It made no sense for the 3rd Reich to simply kill off the Jews, and
get nothing from their labor.
Furthermore, there is a "cycle" to revolutions. The upstarts who
started it, get removed by the radicals, who in turn are replaced by
"moderates". A good example is made by Orwell's Animal Farm. By the
end of the book, the pigs were indistinguishable from the humans. All
animals were equal, but some were more equal than others. And by the
1970's, the 'fire' in the belly for The Revolution was gone. The
children of the revolution had their spirit of sacrifice revived by
the need to rebuild after The Great Patriotic War. But by the late
70's, the "kids" for whom their greatest generation had sacrificed,
were wondering when the goodies would come _their_ way. The culture
began to decay, as people at all levels sought not a Great Socialist
Future, but better food, clothes, housing, etc, etc, etc.
The expectations in the west is that the Jihadists are just like
them. "Nobody really is that dedicated to martyrdom" they think. The
western secularists - and that includes an awful lot of people who
also go to church services - project their own pragmatic nature on the
Jihadists. Much as the Jews (and not just the Jews) under the 3rd
Reich's New World Order projected their own pragmatism onto the
ideologues of the National Socialist Party, and did not really believe
that what they had published, they meant.
Same with a lot of modern pragmatics, who do not wish to believe
that what is printed by the Mullahs is what they really mean. Nobody
could be that ... unpragmatic, is what the modern progressives feel.
I'm afraid the Mullahs not only mean what they say, but that they
have others who will believe them too, and follow the mullah's
guidance. And meanwhile, we have people in positions of
responsibility who are discounting such realities because they do not
match their own perceptions.
pyotr
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pyotr filipivich
Most of the intelligentsia haven't studied history, so much
as they've absorbed the Correct Position on "History".
Cliff
>The only ones really modifying history over the years are the
>left through their good friends in the NEA
http://prorev.com/2009/09/texas-right-wing-history-curriculum.html
"TEXAS RIGHT WING HISTORY CURRICULUM COULD INFECT NATIONAL TEXTBOOKS"
"Approved textbooks, the standards say, must teach the Texan student to
"identify significant conservative advocacy organizations and individuals, such
as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly, and the Moral Majority." "
"The standards on Nixon: "describe Richard M. Nixon's role in the
normalization of relations with China and the policy of detente.""
"On Reagan: "describe Ronald Reagan's role in restoring national confidence,
such as Reaganomics and Peace with Strength." . ."
http://www.conservapedia.com/Dinosaur
"Dinosaurs were reptiles which are now generally believed to be extinct."
[
Young earth creationists believe, from the biblical account, that dinosaurs were
created on day 6 of the creation week[5] approximately 6,000 years ago, along
with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans. As such, they
reject the Theory of Evolution and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about
the age of the earth.
They believe that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably
including in the Garden of Eden) eating only plants[6]; that pairs of each
dinosaur kind were taken onto Noah's Ark during the Great Flood and were
preserved from drowning[7]; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones
originated during the mass killing of the Flood[8]; and that possibly some
descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.[9]
They use archaeological, fossil, and documentary evidence to argue that
dinosaurs co-existed with mankind until at least relatively recent times.
Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the Bible does not use
the word "dinosaur." However, they are alleged to be mentioned in numerous
places throughout the biblical account.
]
"Creationists cite a number of reasons to believe that dinosaurs have existed
until relatively recent times, and perhaps still survive. "
Cliff
>More GWB syndrome again, didn't see him rewriting anything though your side
>wants to blame lenders for mandating covering subprime loans through
>Fannie & Freddie
>thus eliminating your (The dems) responsibility in this, if that isn't
>a rewrite I don't know
All was working pretty well pre-bushco & pre-rethug control.
--
Cliff
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
[snip]
>
> Same with a lot of modern pragmatics, who do not wish to believe
> that what is printed by the Mullahs is what they really mean. Nobody
> could be that ... unpragmatic, is what the modern progressives feel.
>
> I'm afraid the Mullahs not only mean what they say, but that they
> have others who will believe them too, and follow the mullah's
> guidance. And meanwhile, we have people in positions of
> responsibility who are discounting such realities because they do not
> match their own perceptions.
You assume that all the mullahs are speaking in unison. That's a poor
generalization and it is the basis of Muslims belief that the West is
engaging in a war against Islam.
But if we adopt this line of thinking, its not Muslims I'm worried about.
Its the fundie Xtian nutjobs. Muslims want us out of their affairs and
their corner of the world. Fine, I can live with that. Its the fundies
attempts to instigate a culture war in this country and their stated
willingness to pick up arms to get their way that bothers me. They're over
here and we can't pacify them by just leaving them alone. Its time for
another Waco operation on a national scale. Muslims, by comparison, are a
minor problem and can be dealt with later, after we take care of the
serious stuff.
Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take the
statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them all.
But that's not how I read your philosophy.
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Gunner Asch
So how many of those fundi-nutjobs have strapped on a bomb vest in the
last 20 yrs?
Gunner
Gray Ghost
qCdnRUNTJvh3t_W...@posted.isomediainc:
Yeah because so many of the acts of terror in the last 20 years have been
committed by white Christians.
You're a traitor and a fool.
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What it appears to be all about
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Gunner Asch
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>
>> Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take the
>> statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them all.
>> But that's not how I read your philosophy.
>>
>
>Yeah because so many of the acts of terror in the last 20 years have been
>committed by white Christians.
>
>You're a traitor and a fool.
Really? White christians have commited many acts of terror in the name
of Jesus/God?
Please enumerate them for all the readers.
Ill be waiting with bated breath for your response, fucktard.
<VBG>
Gunner, Buddhist
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766
Curly Surmudgeon
<pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
> Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take
> the statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them
> all.
Why not?
By definition they are crazymotherfuckers. What else can you call people
who believe in levitation, transmutation, talking vegetation and serpents?
Any distinction between crazymotherfucking Moslems and crazymotherfucking
Christians is one of degree, not kind. And the degree of difference is
slight.
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Curly Surmudgeon
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
> Yeah because so many of the acts of terror in the last 20 years have
> been committed by white Christians.
I'm delighted that you've come to your senses. Survivors in Iraq will be
happy to know that American cultural ignorance is declining.
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:38:23 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
> <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
>
>> Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take
>> the statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them
>> all.
>
> Why not?
>
> By definition they are crazymotherfuckers. What else can you call people
> who believe in levitation, transmutation, talking vegetation and serpents?
>
> Any distinction between crazymotherfucking Moslems and crazymotherfucking
> Christians is one of degree, not kind. And the degree of difference is
> slight.
>
Christians or Moslems, even Hari Krishnas, your crazymother will do 'em all.
Funny how you are quick to poke fun at levitation and talking serpents, when
you yourself raised your crazymother from the dead and were raped by a giant
rabbit for skipping Sunday school.
Man_of_Mind
>
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:38:23 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
>>
>> pyotr filipivich wrote:
--
>> But if we adopt this line of thinking, its not Muslims I'm worried about.
>> Its the fundie Xtian nutjobs. Muslims want us out of their affairs and
>> their corner of the world. Fine, I can live with that. Its the fundies
>> attempts to instigate a culture war in this country and their stated
>> willingness to pick up arms to get their way that bothers me. They're over
>> here and we can't pacify them by just leaving them alone. Its time for
>> another Waco operation on a national scale. Muslims, by comparison, are a
>> minor problem and can be dealt with later, after we take care of the
>> serious stuff.
>>
>> Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take the
>> statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them all.
>> But that's not how I read your philosophy.
>
> So how many of those fundi-nutjobs have strapped on a bomb
Timmy McVeigh, with a little help from his friends..
--Like "Bo" Gritz, f'rinstance..
Dan
Yes, they have been.
Dan
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:35:24
-0800 in misc.survivalism:
>On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:24:11 -0600, grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com
>(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>>> Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take the
>>> statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them all.
>>> But that's not how I read your philosophy.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah because so many of the acts of terror in the last 20 years have been
>>committed by white Christians.
>>
>>You're a traitor and a fool.
>
>
>Really? White christians have commited many acts of terror in the name
>of Jesus/God?
>
>Please enumerate them for all the readers.
>
>Ill be waiting with bated breath for your response, fucktard.
I suspect that gray ghost is being sarcastic.
But then again, we have to count the um well, there was the
torching of the Davidian "compound" in Waco - wait, those were
Christians inside.
How about the massacre of the People's Temple followers in
Jonestown Guiana. The event which made "purple kool-aid" part of the
political lexicon? Oh wait, Jim Jones was a Marxist, and killed his
own followers, after ordering the killing of a US Congressman.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
pyotr filipivich
11:38:23 -0800 in misc.survivalism:
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>[snip]
>>
>> Same with a lot of modern pragmatics, who do not wish to believe
>> that what is printed by the Mullahs is what they really mean. Nobody
>> could be that ... unpragmatic, is what the modern progressives feel.
>>
>> I'm afraid the Mullahs not only mean what they say, but that they
>> have others who will believe them too, and follow the mullah's
>> guidance. And meanwhile, we have people in positions of
>> responsibility who are discounting such realities because they do not
>> match their own perceptions.
>
>You assume that all the mullahs are speaking in unison. That's a poor
>generalization and it is the basis of Muslims belief that the West is
>engaging in a war against Islam.
I'm not assuming they speak in unison. But I do know that the
differences sometimes are more a matter of form. For example, there
was a great deal of controversy in Afghanistan under the Taliban about
the treatment of homosexuals. One school was insistent that they
were to be thrown from a high building. Another believed that it was
required to topple a wall upon them. Of course, there was the
compromise school - the moderates, who said do both.
There are at least five different major schools if Sunni Islam,
and they all have their reactionary elements. Unfortunately for the
west, they also have a problem with literalists - those who read the
book and think they know all that there is to know. Not for them the
teachings of the Hadiths, - it is in the Q'oran, and that settles it.
Which is to say, there are Mullahs who may be "mad as a hatter",
but they are sincere. And they believe what they say - that the
Crusaders plotted with the Jews to attack Islam. And it is the duty
of every Muslim to combat the infidels and apostate. Despite the
protestations of "pragmatic" progressives. Who apparently are
projecting their own fecklessness onto those Mullahs, and their
followers.
>But if we adopt this line of thinking, its not Muslims I'm worried about.
>Its the fundie Xtian nutjobs. Muslims want us out of their affairs and
>their corner of the world. Fine, I can live with that. Its the fundies
>attempts to instigate a culture war in this country and their stated
>willingness to pick up arms to get their way that bothers me.
So, you have no problems with overturning a culture, as long as it
is away from the old tradition and towards the New Bright Shiny
Future? You have no problem with judicial fiat redefining thousands
of years of human cultural experience, because it doesn't meet some
judges idea of "progress"?
>They're over
>here and we can't pacify them by just leaving them alone. Its time for
>another Waco operation on a national scale. Muslims, by comparison, are a
>minor problem and can be dealt with later, after we take care of the
>serious stuff.
LOL - you are out to lunch, speaking of a generalization and
lumping all together.
>
>Or perhaps I shouldn't lump all the religious leaders together and take the
>statements of a couple of crackpots to represent the beliefs of them all.
>But that's not how I read your philosophy.
Are you saying that the Wahabits madrassahs are just a couple of
crackpots? that there is nothing to worry about them, they being so
few? Maybe you can explain that to my Muslim friends, who are telling
me of Whabbist desecration of ISLAMIC shrines which do not meet their
religious criterion.
pyotr filipivich
Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:24:11 -0600 in misc.survivalism:
I'm going to go with Yet Another Pragmatic Progressive.