Re: Need suggestions for moving manure
jtno...@yahoo.com
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Not all of these are suitable, and one would have to be geographically
close to you to afford the shipping. But there are so many factories
closing down and shifted to China, it shouldn't take long for you to
locate one you can use or adapt to your needs. Just keep looking, on
ebay and elsewhere.-Jitney
Shiver
> Does anyone have any ideas?
What about an auger..... Like the grain augers farmers use.
It would have a rectagular feed trough on the ground with the auger
built into it and as the manure went in it would be augered out.
You could have different sizes... In fact you could have a little
shorty that you wrestled into each stall, fork the shit into the auger
and it could go out the stall door into a box ( recepticle ) or some
sort on wheels that you could wheel out the barn and tip into the
bucket of a loader, bobcat whatever.
jtno...@yahoo.com
children-Jitney
Geoffrey Ritch
from marad...@UNLISTED.com contains these words:
> Does anyone have any ideas?
Dig a pit to park the spreader in and use a ramp to tip barrows directly
into the spreader.
Ann
> from marad...@UNLISTED.com contains these words:
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>> Does anyone have any ideas?
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> Dig a pit to park the spreader in and use a ramp to tip barrows directly
> into the spreader.
And/or a ramp to accomplish the same thing. Also would consider using a
2-wheel cart instead of a wheelbarrow.
The old ensilage chopper/blowers that were used at the silo had a conveyor
section for moving the corn stalks from the wagon to the chopper section.
But the standard way of repeatedly moving heavy stuff horizontally in/out
of a barn (and doing sliding doors) was by hanging the weight from wheels
running on an overhead rail. The most common use was for loading loose
hay into the barn; the fork was lifted to the peak and then run in and
horizontally on the rail. My grandfather's barn also had a rail mechanism
for moving manure out of the barn. The container was similar to half a 55
gallon drum on its side, but larger. The rail ran down the main aisle of
the car parlor and out to the manure pile. The slope was gentle enough
that (with pulleys) it could be moved (and restrained) by human power. The
container was weighted so it would rotate and dump when a trip mechanism
released it. (Another advantage of an overhead rail system becomes
obvious in the winter; no plowing. <g>)
kmeinke...@earthlink.net
you can walk the wheel barrow over the spreader and dump in in
directly? Since the spreader is downhill, you should be able to keep
the ramp horizontal.
Ken
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:43:42 -0500, marad...@UNLISTED.com wrote:
>I run a horse farm and am constantly battle manure. I have been
>trying to get a better setup than the old fashioned method of using
>the fork and wheelbarrow. That worked ok when I only had 8 horses,
>but with over 30, its just too much work. Buying a skidloader is out
>of my price range, unless I eventually can find a deal on a used one.
>And renting one, is very costly too, and then I have to rush and do it
>all in one day.
>
>Here's the situation. Many of my stalls are too hard to get a
>skidloader into, so I still have to use the fork, then either the
>wheelbarrow, or tractor loader to move the stuff. I have come to the
>conclusion that digging the manure with a fork is not all that
>difficult, it's transporting it that is the hard part. Therefore, I
>purchased a manure spreader. Well, that's fine, but I still have to
>use the wheelbarrow, then dump it into a pile, then use the tractor
>loader to put it into the spreader. In other words, I am handling it
>at least 3 times.
>
>I finally got an idea, and am trying to make this happen. My barn is
>on the top of a hill. There is a roadway below, which is about 7 feet
>lower than the barn floor. The driveway is about 15 feet from the
>barn. So, I got the idea of making a conveyor of sorts. Cut a small
>low door in the side of the barn, and put the conveyor in this door.
>The other end of the conveyor would then be placed on two posts, and
>overhang the driveway. Then, all I need to do is park the spreader
>under the end of this conveyor and start forking the manure onto the
>end of this conveyor, and it will go into the spreader. Even the
>manure in the stalls can be put into a wheelbarrow and the wheelbarrow
>only has to move a few feet and be dumped onto the conveyor. When I
>finish the job, the conveyor is pulled out of the barn, and put away.
>
>Therefore, what I need is a lightweight, yet powerful enough conveyor
>capable of moving chunks of manure weighing as much as maybe 50lbs.
>It needs to be driven by an electric motor. I dont think this is too
>much to expect from a piece of machinery that is 15 feet long, and
>horse manure is much more firm than cattle manure.
>
>But how to make this conveyor is the problem. I am handy, but
>sometimes find it difficult to find the materials, and get the ideas
>how to make something. This is one of those times. My biggest
>problem is what to use for the conveyor belt, and how to make the
>motor move this belt. I know I can make the frame from pipe and scrap
>steel, or even wood. I have motors too. It's the belt that I am not
>sure what to use.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas?
>
>One other thing I am thinking. There is no sense in re-inventing the
>wheel. Is there something that is already manufactured that I might
>be able to purchase at a used farm machinery sale that would work for
>this? One guy told me to check into a grain elevator, and said that
>he thinks it would work. I am not real familiar with things like
>this, but I found a picture of one on the web, and it looks like it
>could work.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions or comments, please...
>
>Thanks
>
>Mark
Elmo
Older tie-stall type dairy barns feature a gutter behind the cow which runs the
full length of the barn on both sides. The ends are connected forming a loop.
Inside the loop is a chain connected to paddles. A motor drives the chain
pulling the paddles around the barn and dragging whatever is in the gutter with
it. The chain and paddles go up a ramp and the manure spreader is parked
underneath and catches what falls as the paddles go around. The whole shebang
is usually referred to as a "barn cleaner". I have also seen them at floor
level, without a gutter.
Obviously your horse barn is a slightly different situation but I'll bet you
could find a way to apply the technology to your problem. Google barn cleaner
to get some manufacturers (Patz, Badger, Berg come to my mind), get a local
dealer or two to stop by and pose the problem to them.
--
"The career politicians are keeping the elevator at the penthouse
floor and not sending it down for the rest of us." - Kinky Friedman
Larry Caldwell
(Geoffrey Ritch) says...
> Dig a pit to park the spreader in and use a ramp to tip barrows directly
> into the spreader.
That was sort of what I was thinking, except I was thinking loading
dock. Being able to wheel something directly onto the bed of a truck,
pickup or trailer is really handy, and it could double as a manure
spreader loader.
nicks...@ece.villanova.edu
>...I have come to the conclusion that digging the manure with a fork
>is not all that difficult, it's transporting it that is the hard part.
>Therefore, I purchased a manure spreader.
Will it fit in the barn aisles?
Can the horses live outdoors 99% of the time?
Nick
JonquilJan
horses. Two come to mind other than the wheelbarrow/fork method. One was
at an old barn that had been converted from dairy cattle to horses and still
had the manure trough with a scraping conveyor in it. The stalls were
cleaned by shoveling the manure and soiled bedding directly into the trough.
When turned on, the conveyor shuttled the manure directly to a manure
spreader parked in an attached shed. The big problem was that there had to
be a 'bridge' made of heavy duty wood placed in the trough to get some of
the horses out of the stalls without them going nuts if they stepped into
the trough. (Not all the horses - some were smart enough to step over the
trough.) But there still was a considerably amount of sweeping the aisles
to keep all the manure in the trough and on the conveyor system - horses
having more bedding and solid manure than cattle. The trough was also handy
to sweep refuse into after grooming or shoeing the horses. There were 12
stalls directly adjacent to the trough and 2 more that had to have the
manure wheeled to the trough.
The other method was using the wheelbarrow and fork method but with a ramp
built beside the manure spreader that was parked right outside the stable
back door. Two people cleaned the stalls, throwing the manure and soiled
bedding out in the wheelbarrow or in the aisle (cement) if the wheelbarrow
was not there. One other person forked the manure into the wheelbarrow and
wheeled it out to the spreader and up the ramp (which could be quite
slippery in the winter - particularly in the early morning before the sun
hit it to melt the frost. Obviously the stalls were cleaned in order
starting from the one furthest from the back door and progressing down the
aisle. There were 14 stalls in the main barn and 4 more in an adjacent
barn.
JonquilJan
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