reconditioned iphone
f825_633
Are just things as recondition iphones available ? if so
where from (please don't suggest ebay)
Many of the ones I've seen on ebay are blacklisted! its
about time ebay did something and forced people to list the
IMEI number as part of the listing - in the same way they
force more information for vehicles etc,
salgud
You can buy 3G's reconditioned from Apple/AT&T. Last time I looked (a few
weeks ago), 3GS' were not available yet reconditioned. My guess is they
won't be until all the stock of new and reconditioned 3G's is cleared.
f825_633
Sadly not here in the UK, I've spoken to various people
about recon handsets and no-one knows where they go....
Marc Stibane
> > You can buy 3G's reconditioned from Apple/AT&T. Last time I looked (a few
> > weeks ago), 3GS' were not available yet reconditioned. My guess is they
> > won't be until all the stock of new and reconditioned 3G's is cleared.
>
> Sadly not here in the UK, I've spoken to various people
> about recon handsets and no-one knows where they go....
Buy from eBay Italia or Belgium or Czech Republic or HongKong. All
iPhones sold in these countries are SIMlockfree by law, and can be used
with any carrier worldwide (3G network, of course).
I bought my 3GS in Italy this year, and my 3G in Czech Republic last
year. And I use them in Germany and Austria (where you can only buy
SIMlocked iPhones).
www.ebay.it
www.ebay.be
www.ebay.cz
--
In a world without walls and fences,
who needs windows and gates?
JK Coney
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My 2 year old Iphone was bought recon from the Apple store. Ebay is a
perfectly good place to buy things, but only as good as your seller. All you
need to do is make sure they have a minimum of hundreds of positive
feedbacks, and use Paypal. You are totally protected.
--
JK Sinrod
myconeyislandmemories.com
Adrian C
Er, No. eBay accounts are regulary hijacked and you'll either lose funds
to places like Nigeria or end up with a phone either blacklisted, dead
or fake. Do the /proper/ research on a seller if ye are really keen. A
high number of positive feedbacks might not be relevant if it's a
trading scammer.
eBay is good in other areas but not for things like these.
--
Adrian C
JK Coney
"Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
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Why wouldn't Paypal cover your loss? Where does it state that they only
cover non-bad sellers?
--
JK Sinrod
myconeyislandmemories.com
Adrian C
> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>
> cover non-bad sellers?
>
Just the hassle if something happens. If you want to take these risks,
fine.
Plenty of people have been burned with experiences of bad service from
Paypal never mind the actions of the vendors.
How much is your time and stress worth?
--
Adrian C
JK Coney
"Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
> JK Coney wrote:
>> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
>>>
>>> eBay is good in other areas but not for things like these.
>>
>> Why wouldn't Paypal cover your loss? Where does it state that they
>> only cover non-bad sellers?
>>
>
> Just the hassle if something happens. If you want to take these risks,
> fine.
>
Well that's very different than what you said before Adrian. Of course if
you buy on Ebay the way I said you are protected fully, even from a thief.
You make it sound like a high percentage of transactions are bad. I rep a
collector and sell his high end comics. In reality there are bad guys
everywhere, but in all the years and thousands of items bought and sold on
Ebay I've had only a few issues with deadbeats and had no problem getting
them dealt with. I like the convenience, multi seller price comparisons,
and savings. A sellers feedback rating is their lifeblood. A good seller
will do almost anything to protect their reputation. You may have had a bad
experience with ONE transaction, but Ebay is a great place to buy.
--
JK Sinrod
myconeyislandmemories.com
f825_633
> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7ncq9kF...@mid.individual.net...
>> JK Coney wrote:
>>> "Adrian C" <em...@here.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> eBay is good in other areas but not for things like these.
>>> Why wouldn't Paypal cover your loss? Where does it state that they
>>> only cover non-bad sellers?
>>>
>> Just the hassle if something happens. If you want to take these risks,
>> fine.
>>
>
>
> Well that's very different than what you said before Adrian. Of course if
> you buy on Ebay the way I said you are protected fully, even from a thief.
> You make it sound like a high percentage of transactions are bad. I rep a
> collector and sell his high end comics. In reality there are bad guys
> everywhere, but in all the years and thousands of items bought and sold on
> Ebay I've had only a few issues with deadbeats and had no problem getting
> them dealt with. I like the convenience, multi seller price comparisons,
> and savings. A sellers feedback rating is their lifeblood. A good seller
> will do almost anything to protect their reputation. You may have had a bad
> experience with ONE transaction, but Ebay is a great place to buy.
>
Ebay (as in the company) when notified of fraudulent
activity do little about it. It was necessary to report one
seller whom was blatantly selling a stolen iphone; this was
the reply from eBay Trust & Safety -
Thank you for your report against the member who is selling
stolen goods on eBay.
We're eager to prevent the sale of stolen goods on the site.
If we find a seller has been selling stolen items we'll take
action on their account. This action includes (but isn't
limited to) account suspension.
However, we can only investigate such a serious allegation
if it comes from the police, or trading standards.
I recommend you contact your local police and ask them to
get in touch with us. The investigating officer can then use
the "Contact Us Webform"
link on the following page to contact our Trust and Safety team:
incidentally, The item was not removed and the sale completed.
The problem with this response is that the UK Police CANNOT
record a crime without a victim, so its catch 22 - eBay wait
for the police to contact them doing little or nothing in
the mean time, the Police are not interested until the
victim contacts them, what this really means is nothing
happens - someone can sell a stolen phone or any other item
through ebay, committing a crime in its self and if the
buyer doesn't care about buying a stolen item or the seller
doesn't notice their item on sale then it goes unreported.
What is needed in the case of mobile phones is; along with
the listing is the IMEI number posted, in my experience of
trying to buy an iphone through eBay recently - reputable
sellers will happily supply the IMEI and O2 customer
services willingly check the blacklist database. Before the
data protection act begins to get waved ignorantly about -
this doesn't contravene the DPA whatsoever - no personal
data is every enquired about or imparted.
I've been through this process quiet a few times and
informed the seller that they have a handset that is on the
UK blacklist register and regarded as lost/stolen whereby
they have replied that they came by it in a 'job lot' of
electronics. Someone of the sellers have then withdrawn
their listing. (they are the honest ones)
Additionally if your handset did become lost/stolen then you
could do a search on its IMEI number and trace it back to
the listing.
Another bonus would be, that if ebay where not such an easy
place to dispose of stolen handsets then perhaps in an ideal
world then less handsets would be stolen?, perhaps that's
too idealistic.
Check the listings - "No Service" or "No Coverage" etc.,
"export only", ebay is riddled with them, do they care -
they are only focusing on the commission, The Police? well
they couldn't care less either, this is not opinion this is
fact following a conversation with them after my sons
handset was stolen !
The situation in part is Apple's fault, not intentionally;
they have made a great device which is very desirable by the
masses, its just too expensive and the less scuplious people
whom cannot afford to buy it by legitimate means will resort
to other measures.
The above is taken from my experience of ebay UK and the
Surrey Police, it is made without prejudice to either mealy
static fact as I saw it following their respective
communications to me.
<Stepping off the soap box now>
JK Coney
> JK Coney wrote:
>
> The above is taken from my experience of ebay UK and the Surrey Police, it
> is made without prejudice to either mealy static fact as I saw it
> following their respective communications to me.
> <Stepping off the soap box now>
When I was a young man I bought a stolen underdash car CD player from a
deli cook for $10 bucks. It never occurred to me that I was doing wrong. It
took me a whole day to run the wires and make a nice installation in my car.
A month later not only was it stolen from me, but they tore up the dash and
broke the window to get it. It cost me lots of money to put all right
again. The irony taught me a lesson.
--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
f825_633
I couldn't be described as being religious or superstitious,
but I do believe in 'what goes around, comes around' or 'do
as you would hope to be done by'
I suppose my example of this would be that a private plane
kept flying over our house below the legal limit, so I made
a note of the registration and made an enquiry as to which
airfield (only a couple locally) it came out of and found
the pilot and polity asked him observe the rules instead of
officially reporting him, and it didn't happen again. About
two months later whilst I was in reception at the local
airfield doing my flight plan someone tapped me on the
shoulder and mentioned that I'd broken the air rules by
breaching air space, the guy was from the CAA, told me to be
a little more aware of wind shear and let it go - by rights
he ought to have reported me. Can't help wondering if it was
a favour returned somehow.