In article <021120121042329169%nos...@nospam.invalid>,

LOL. You just insinuated that my iTunes issue in another thread is my
fault and not a real bug in iTunes claiming because you haven't seen the
issue, it must not exist. Pull your head out of your ass.

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In article <jollyroger-84B3F2.10424402112...@news.individual.net>,

that's a lie and you know it.

In article <slrnk981kh.1oh4.g.kr...@mbp55.local>, Lewis

they won't even notice the option.

In article <slrnk981uo.1oh4.g.kr...@mbp55.local>, Lewis

wow, that's a stretch.

so you're saying someone is going to butt-dial the correct pin code,
launch the phone app and then dial 911, all while the phone is in their
pocket? seriously?

plus, the passcode timeout is going to make it incredibly difficult to
get past it once the timeouts kick in.

or, you could set more than a 4 digit passcode, which you advocated a
week or two ago. can't have it both ways.

but not everyone wants that, so it shouldn't be done.

On 12-11-02 20:17, Michelle Steiner wrote:

Which reminds me. With APPL freefalling, is there an expectation that on
the day after the election, things will pickup again ? I think I read
somewhere that after elections, the stock market tends to rebound.

In article <k6s3pm$2h...@reader1.panix.com>,
David Arnstein  <arnstein+use...@pobox.com> wrote:

I can see the other side of the argument now.

I have my iPhone configured to erase itself after 10 failed attempts to
enter passcode. Without the "slide to unlock" screen, it would be possible
for my massive sit-muscle to "butt-dial" random passcodes 10 times.
That's 40 key presses in all.

Personally, I would accept this risk and I would still like to rid myself
of the "slide to unlock" screen. Perhaps my preference is sufficiently
rare that it's not worth supporting with a UI option.

I get that a lot.
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In article <slrnk99589.23li.g.kr...@mbp55.local>, Lewis

it was down almost 20 today, or over 3%, and that's just *today*.

it was 702 about 6 weeks ago and now it's 576. that's a drop of 126, or
18%. that's a lot, especially in such a short time and could easily be
considered a freefall.

In article <021120122117244686%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam

There's a TV advert running here for an investment and insurance company -
it is set in the 1970s and has a group of people sitting around chatting
about which stock to invest in: Kaypro, Wang, Commodore, or "that company
that named itself after a fruit". Guess which is the only one still
around.  :-)

(Technically "Commodore" is still actually around, but not in any real
sense or anything recognisable as having anything to do with the original
company.)

In article <50946dc5$0$38589$c3e8da3$46056...@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

It's enjoying lots of manipulation by Wall Street Riddlin junkies, but
they can't hold it down forever.

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On Nov/3/2012 12:1724 AM, nospam wrote:

"Freefall" would be losing more than 18% in a single day, several days
in a row. 18% over six weeks is an adjustment, to my mind probably a
manipulation by those who want to buy AAPL at a lower price.

I withhold judgement until the holiday sales season is over, with iPad
minis, iPad4's, and iPhone5's stocking-ready. Only if there is a
considerable shortfall in holiday sales will we know if the adjustment
was justified.

Over the long term, the success of an Apple TV project may influence the
stock price, although Apple's high profit margin on its already
established products suggests that investment in an unsuccessful Apple
TV project would not affect overall profitability of the whole
corporation. And even modest success would be enough to propel the stock
price somewhat higher.

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At 02 Nov 2012 08:30:00 -0600 Salgud wrote:

Was it lack of know-how, or lack of imagination?

Certainly most of the things you listed are far easier to accomplish on
an iPhone or other modern smartphone, but I did virtually everything on
your list with my circa-2003 Nokia 3650. (It was Symbian, not a Treo,
however.)
Prior to the smartphone era, I did it all on my Pocket PC tethered to a
Nokia dumbphone via IR (with the exception of taking pictures- my PPC
lacked a camera.)

At 02 Nov 2012 17:50:16 +0000 Lewis wrote:

Use some imagination. Without slide to unlock, you'd just need to add an
"enter" key to the unlock screen. Tap less than four numbers and enter
doesn't activate. enter a fifth number, the first four disappear. Now you
have a screen that requires exactly four digits (or a multiple of four)
before the enter button can be pressed and use up one of your incorrect
attempts.

How likely are you to accidentally enter an incorrect passcode once, let
alone enough times to delay entry or wipe the device?

See, just a little imagination...

This got me to think you know this face recognition thing on Android
isn't so silly after all.

If your phone is programmed to recognise the head over your shoulders,
when it is accidentially awakened in your pants are it sees the head
between your legs (or a beaver if you are female), it won't be impressed
and just go back to sleep.

So this isn't merely some security thing, but also a convenient way to
eliminate accidental awakenings in pockets etc.

In article <JNidnW5uf8YjvAjNnZ2dnUVZ_rWdn...@earthlink.com>, AV3

freefall is a bit of an exaggeration but 18% drop is still a *lot*.

In the last episode of <k74kq1$r9...@dont-email.me>, Todd Allcock
<eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> said:

This is one case where Android's "draw pattern to unlock" can work well.
If the pattern requires at least three segments, you can ignore anything
less than three segments as a pocket dial attempt and avoid incrementing
a lock-out system without needing a action-before-pin system.

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<5095de40$0$54426$c3e8da3$69010...@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spam...@vaxination.ca> said:

Unfortunately the implementation is pretty bad. Without blink detection,
it can be fooled by a picture and with blink detection it seems to need
much better light.

Even blink detection can be fooled pretty easily by a pair of digital
photo (well, one original and one with the eyes covered over; it doesn't
even take any photoshop skills, just copy the skintone and draw filled
circles over the eyes, then do a slideshow of the open eyes, closed and
open again).

Still, it's a neat starting point.

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