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4phun  
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 More options Nov 6 2008, 8:20 pm
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:20:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 8:20 pm
Subject: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
Wall street Journal announced this bit of business news today.
AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122598801123705301.html

You can now drop  into any McDonald's and have FREE wifi on your
iPhone!

The deal expands AT&T's hot spots -- areas where customers can tap
into Wi-Fi networks -- to 20,000 in the U.S. That includes the
networks Wayport operates at Wyndham, Marriott Vacation Club and Four
Seasons hotels as well as McDonald's Corp. restaurants.

Non AT&T prefered customers may also use these wifi hotspots for $20 a
month. All of them are free to iPhone users. There is the Easy WiFi
app at the iPhone store where you can get one click access at any AT&T
spot with out even using the browser and SMS method those with out the
Easy WiFi app must go through.

I already had checked Micky Dees yesterday and was able to instantly
connect with one click using Easy Wifi. I had been trying
unsuccessfully for months to get free acess at McDonald s.

Life is good and getting better every day if you have an iPhone.

Today ComputerWorld said the iPhone ranked the highest of all smart
phones in user satisfaction among business users.

Not bad, if you have an iPhone.


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 More options Nov 6 2008, 8:33 pm
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:33:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 6, 8:20 pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:

MORE HEADLINES

Apple's iPhone wins JD Power award
CNET News, CA - 1 hour ago

A survey conducted by JD Power and Associates found Apple's iPhone
generated the highest amount of customer satisfaction among smartphone-
using ...

JD Powers: iPhone beats BlackBerry CNNMoney.com
JD Power: iPhone tops in customer satisfaction Computerworld
JD Power ranks Apple’s iPhone highest in new study Macworld


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 More options Nov 6 2008, 8:52 pm
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:52:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 6, 8:33 pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:

MORE

AT&T exec confirms iPhone tethering on the way
from The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW) by Robert Palmer

Filed under: iPhone

How's this for a telephone game: Technologizer's Harry McCracken
reports that AT&T Mobility CEO Ralph De La Vega told Michael Arrington
that the iPhone will be allowed to work as a tethered wireless modem
for notebooks. It will be available "soon."

That is the same event where AT&T brass disclosed they have remarkable
future extensions to the iPhone being developed by none other than the
world famous AT&T LABS.

AT&T plans to kick ass with the iPhone for some time to come.

--
De la Vega [just]  let loose with a laundry list of future
applications and usage scenarios for the device, which included the
following:

http://en.oreilly.com/web2008/public/schedule/speaker/15102
http://www.pcworld.com/article/153435/atandt_brass_talks_big_on_futur...

Before the iPhone wakes you up in the morning with its alarm clock, De
la Vega says, it will have already loaded all of your daily news feeds
onto the phone. It will also have already sent a wireless message to
your coffee maker to get the coffee ready. While you're sitting there
drinking your coffee, he says, you might decide that you'd rather read
your news on the TV screen; so with a wave of the device toward the
TV, de la Vega says, you'll send your news feeds wirelessly from the
phone to the TV for reading.

Now you leave the house, and use your iPhone to lock the door on the
way out. You get in the car. The iPhone starts your car. On the way to
work, the iPhone continues reading your news to you using its text-to-
speech function.

Later on, at your office, the iPhone initiates a conference call
between you and two potential customers in Japan. On the call, when
you speak English, the iPhone translates it to Japanese so that your
potential customers can understand you. When they answer in Japanese,
the iPhone converts their speech into English so you can understand
them.

De la Vega says there's a lot of experimentation and testing going on
in AT&T's labs to integrate the iPhone with AT&T's fiber optic-based
IPTV service, U-Verse. The iPhone will become a remote control for the
the service, a scenario in which you'll use the device (and its on-
screen keyboard) to search for programming in U-Verse (or presumably
from the open internet), playing it either on the TV itself or on the
iPhone. De la Vega didn't go too much further into this, but we're
assuming that once the iPhone is integrated with the U-Verse TV
service, the U-Verse DVR will become more and more like TiVo and the
iPhone will control it either from the couch, or from across the
country.

Some of this sounds pretty far-flung to me, and if this were some
start-up company talking about these "exciting new plans," I'd
probably take it with a grain of salt. But in my experience, AT&T
plays it pretty close to the vest on its future plans, and usually
does what it says it will do.

<snip>

During the Q&A, an audience member asked De la Vega what AT&T planned
to do about areas like New York City where the 3G network coverage is
spotty. Beyond it's normal network upgrade process, AT&T says it will
begin using a new swath of 850 MHz spectrum to deliver a clearer,
stronger signal in densely populated areas. De la Vega also says his
company will be market testing femtocell technology in some markets in
2009; femtocell devices connect to wireless broadband networks indoors
and help boost the connections of wireless devices like the iPhone.

--

One last note AT&T will give new AT&T BB users free nationwide wifi
too.
BB with any other cellular carrier - no free wifi for you!
You will have to pay AT&T $20 a month to  play.


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Adrian C  
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 More options Nov 6 2008, 8:55 pm
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From: Adrian C <em...@here.invalid>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:55:12 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

4phun wrote:
> You can now drop  into any McDonald's and have FREE wifi on your
> iPhone!
> Life is good and getting better every day if you have an iPhone.

This won't cost AT&T that much.

Not many iPhone users will be alive for long if they continuously keep
dropping into MacDonalds...

--
Adrian C


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 More options Nov 6 2008, 9:21 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:21:26 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:628fad18-ee5e-41ff-a417-
b92e0ec88...@u29g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

> Not bad, if you have an iPhone.

Free wifi for everyone:

All Chick-fil-A restaurants
All Atlanta Bread (those that are left, anyway)
All Panera Bread
All IHOP restaurants
Most hotels and motels...you're in room 202.
Any new Denny's restaurants just built or going up
(older Denny's will have wifi after Christmas they told me.)

local Charleston area -
Charleston Airport
Pizza Roma family of restaurants
Any Charleston marina
The City of Charleston, Downtown (110Kbps free, pay for more)
many independent sellphone dealers
W4CSC's tower of power serving a 2 mile radius around the Charleston AFB
main gate...(c;]  "Broadband for the troops in the barracks."

Chick-f-a has a nanny and webpage logon...spam
Panera Bread has a logon webpage, no nanny
Atlanta Bread did but went belly up.
Smaller motels/hotels are just routers, usually named "Linksys".

McDonald's, here, is like you describe but noone uses it with all this free
service...or Starbucks, only the naive.


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 More options Nov 6 2008, 9:24 pm
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From: "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:24:15 -0700
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

"4phun" <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:628fad18-ee5e-41ff-a417-b92e0ec88f74@u29g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

> I already had checked Micky Dees yesterday and was able to instantly
> connect with one click using Easy Wifi. I had been trying
> unsuccessfully for months to get free acess at McDonald s.

> Life is good and getting better every day if you have an iPhone.

While this is certainly a perq for iPhone users, all this "free WiFi for
iPhones" seems like a desperate attempt to get iPhone users OFF AT&T's
overloaded 3G network.  ;-)

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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:30:06 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

On  6-Nov-2008, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The deal expands AT&T's hot spots -- areas where customers can tap
> into Wi-Fi networks -- to 20,000 in the U.S. That includes the
> networks Wayport operates at Wyndham, Marriott Vacation Club and Four
> Seasons hotels as well as McDonald's Corp. restaurants.

Given the speed and universal availability of 3G data access, why would I go to
McDonalds for WiFi?

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From: Charles <fort...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:10:48 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
In article <lL2dndwTYuOzNY7UnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@giganews.com>, C. Sowash

<csow...@nospamComcast.net> wrote:
> Given the speed and universal availability of 3G data access, why
> would I go to McDonalds for WiFi?

I am finding I usually use the WiFi mainly at home. The log ons can be
a pain away from home so I turn off WiFi and use the 3G. For example at
Panera Bread if your iPhone goes to sleep you have to log on again. For
3G you don't have to do anything. However while 3G does seem to be
universal in my home area I have encountered a few outland places that
are Edge. There the WiFi would be useful.

--
Charles


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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:08:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 6, 10:10 pm, Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <lL2dndwTYuOzNY7UnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@giganews.com>, C. Sowash

> <csow...@nospamComcast.net> wrote:
> > Given the speed and universal availability of 3G data access, why
> > would I go to McDonalds for WiFi?

> I am finding I usually use the WiFi mainly at home. The log ons can be
> a pain away from home so I turn off WiFi and use the 3G. For example at
> Panera Bread if your iPhone goes to sleep you have to log on again. For
> 3G you don't have to do anything. However while 3G does seem to be
> universal in my home area I have encountered a few outland places that
> are Edge. There the WiFi would be useful.

> --
> Charles

Use Easy WiFi.

Login anywhere with the iPhone while using Easy WiFi  is automatic,
painless after it has been set up the first time.

BTW did anyone notice the AT&T CEO  has just joined Sprint in
rejecting the Google Android as unacceptable for working on their cell
network. That leaves only Verizon as the only major network left. If
Verizon rejects the Google OS too then Android is probably dead.


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(1 user)  More options Nov 7 2008, 12:33 am
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From: Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:33:40 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 12:33 am
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
At 07 Nov 2008 02:30:06 +0000 C. Sowash wrote:

> Given the speed and universal availability of 3G data access, why would I
> go to McDonalds for WiFi?

The two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, and
onions on a sesame seed bun?

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From: Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:23:32 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 12:23 am
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
At 06 Nov 2008 20:08:26 -0800 4phun wrote:

> BTW did anyone notice the AT&T CEO  has just joined Sprint in
> rejecting the Google Android as unacceptable for working on their cell
> network.

"AT&T CEO Ralph De La Vega says... "The platform is still evolving and
needs to open up even more..."

Oh, the irony! The CEO of the company selling a phone that can't make its
first call with first getting permission from iTunes, says the open-source
Android needs to "open up more."

> That leaves only Verizon as the only major network left. If
> Verizon rejects the Google OS too then Android is probably dead.

It's a big wide world out there.  If no American carrier other than T-Mo
gets behind it, oh well- that drops the potential market from what, 2
billion users to 1.8 billion?  

Besides, since Android is open-source, it'll likely "sneak in the backdoor"
of all carriers as manufacturers start using it on lower-end phones.
Motorola is working on Android phones- after they launch their flashy touch-
screen model, it only makes sense that their R&D expenditure will be
recycled into lower-end feature phones like future RAZRs, KRZRs, LAZRs,
MAZRs or any other vowel-challenged phones they create in the future.  

No CEO feels the need to comment on the suitability of whatever proprietary
crapware runs on every low-to-mid-end Moto, Sony, LG, Nokia, Pantech, or
Samsung they fob off on their customers- why is Android so special it
deserves bashing by AT&T's and Sprint's CEOs...

...other than they can't get one for six months or so, until someone other
than HTC (who's G1 is currently exclusive to T-Mo) finishes one.  When
Motorola finally releases theirs in 2Q or 3Q 2009, let's see how fast
whichever carrier lands it decides Android is "finally ready."


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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> At 07 Nov 2008 02:30:06 +0000 C. Sowash wrote:

> > Given the speed and universal availability of 3G data access, why would I
> > go to McDonalds for WiFi?

> The two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, and
> onions on a sesame seed bun?

Funny - when I was a school boy, McD had one week where you should say
this sentence in under 5 seconds to get a free coke. Every day after
school I dropped into the local "restaurant" to get mine...

translated into german:
Zwei Lagen reines Rindfleisch, Spezialsauce, Salat, Essiggurke, Käse,
Zwiebel in einem getoastetem Sesambrötchen - MacDonalds BigMac.

--
In a world without walls and fences,
   who needs windows and gates?


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From: Charles <fort...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:06:52 -0500
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Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
In article
<607960db-2853-4fa8-a4f4-3abac51e4...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,

4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Use Easy WiFi.

I will check it out.

--
Charles


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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:40:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 6:40 am
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 7, 12:23 am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

Todd

I happened to notice your post.

Don't you think that many fail to realize the Global recession is real
and picking up steam?

There is a little outfit called Qualcomm that is already feeling the
pain as cell phone purchases have fallen like a rock. (See yesterday's
news)

Apple has already cut the iPhone outlook by at least 40% or more for
this quarter.

If Android has zip potential right now where will Android be in a crap
market?

Could those firms like Motorola that are hemorrhaging money cut
development of Android in a sudden move to save the sinking ship?

Could we look at GM and Chrysler to see what happens to future
development when sales plummet?

Personally I wish those tinkering with Android no harm, but I hope
that isn't their day job.


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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:33:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
At 07 Nov 2008 06:49:31 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> > You can now drop  into any McDonald's and have FREE wifi on your
> > iPhone!

> Um, right now you can drop into any McD's and have FREE wifi on ANYTHING.

That's operator or market dependent.  In many areas, like mine, McD's are
standard Wayport outlets- you need to pay by the hour,or  have a Wayport
(or Wayport roaming partner) subscription.

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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:58:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
"Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:gf08sl$66d$1
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> While this is certainly a perq for iPhone users, all this "free WiFi for
> iPhones" seems like a desperate attempt to get iPhone users OFF AT&T's
> overloaded 3G network.  ;-)

Very perceptive, VERY perceptive....(c;]

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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:02:52 +0000
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Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:607960db-2853-4fa8-a4f4-
3abac51e4...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> BTW did anyone notice the AT&T CEO  has just joined Sprint in
> rejecting the Google Android as unacceptable for working on their cell
> network. That leaves only Verizon as the only major network left. If
> Verizon rejects the Google OS too then Android is probably dead.

They're not buying any more Motorola products?  All new Motos will be
Android phones!

I don't think Android is gonna fly because it will run uncontrollable
software on the sellphone networks.  This means it would kill the $3.99
software cashcows AND use actual BANDWIDTH, which must be resisted at all
costs.


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From: Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:40:21 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
At 07 Nov 2008 17:02:52 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > BTW did anyone notice the AT&T CEO  has just joined Sprint in
> > rejecting the Google Android as unacceptable for working on their cell
> > network. That leaves only Verizon as the only major network left. If
> > Verizon rejects the Google OS too then Android is probably dead.

> They're not buying any more Motorola products?  All new Motos will be
> Android phones!

I've seen speculation, but nothing definitive from Motorola.

> I don't think Android is gonna fly because it will run uncontrollable
> software on the sellphone networks.  This means it would kill the $3.99
> software cashcows AND use actual BANDWIDTH, which must be resisted at all
> costs.

It doesn't matter.  The cellular networks always have the upper hand.  Like
AT&T with the iPhone, T-Mobile created a new data plan just for the G1
Android handset.  T-Mo is reportedly even putting an automatic mechanism in
place later this month that if you move your SIM card from a "dumbphone"
into a G1, trying to use the G1 on a cheaper dumbphone data plan, you'll be
texted that you'll be automatically switched to the G1 plan if you access
data from that handset.

Wireless carriers don't need to fear "open" devices as long as they control
the pipes, any more than electric companies need to fear high-wattage
appliances!  ;-)


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Todd Allcock  
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(1 user)  More options Nov 7 2008, 2:03 pm
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.cingular, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:03:03 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
At 07 Nov 2008 03:40:35 -0800 4phun wrote:

> > why is Android so special it
> > deserves bashing by AT&T's and Sprint's CEOs...

> > ...other than they can't get one for six months or so, until someone
other
> > than HTC (who's G1 is currently exclusive to T-Mo) finishes one.  When
> > Motorola finally releases theirs in 2Q or 3Q 2009, let's see how fast
> > whichever carrier lands it decides Android is "finally ready."

> Todd

> I happened to notice your post.

> Don't you think that many fail to realize the Global recession is real
> and picking up steam?

No, I think they realize that.  If anything, that makes basing an entire
line of products on one OS even more attractive.

> There is a little outfit called Qualcomm that is already feeling the
> pain as cell phone purchases have fallen like a rock. (See yesterday's
> news)

> Apple has already cut the iPhone outlook by at least 40% or more for
> this quarter.

> If Android has zip potential right now where will Android be in a crap
> market?

Quietly running a pile of bland low-end handsets produced for minimal cost,
perhaps?  There are really only two growth areas in cellular right now-
smartphones, and really cheap low-end handsets for emerging markets like
Africa, India, etc.

> Could those firms like Motorola that are hemorrhaging money cut
> development of Android in a sudden move to save the sinking ship?

Maybe, but on the other hand, it might make a "free" OS that's already done
90% of the work for you even more attractive.  You write a few drivers,
slap on a company-
themed startup logo and jingle, and you've got a handset.  In fact,
creating Android versions of current popular handsets allows milking the
same hardware for another year, reducing hardware R&D- picture a new "RAZR
3 with Android"- the same old RAZR2 handset with the Android OS on it.  The
R&D cost to Motorola?  A fraction of what they'll spend marketing it!

> Could we look at GM and Chrysler to see what happens to future
> development when sales plummet?

Sure- continued sales of the same old crap in new colors and with new trim.
 Android could be that new trim!

> Personally I wish those tinkering with Android no harm, but I hope
> that isn't their day job.

Apple, IMO, is uniquely prepared to ride out this downturn at least short-
term- their iPhone 3G is still popular, and users aren't clamoring for a
new model just yet.  They'll have lower sales, just like everyone else, but
they won't be blowing R&D money like everyone else is trying to come up
with the "next iPhone killer."

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Larry  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 8:18 pm
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.cingular, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:18:22 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:gf23el$9eg$1@aioe.org:

> Wireless carriers don't need to fear "open" devices as long as they
> control the pipes, any more than electric companies need to fear
> high-wattage appliances!  ;-)

This doesn't explain the sellphone carrier hobbleware they always install
in the name of "firmware" that disables some of the most basic functions
like COPY and MOVE for simple files like pictures and MP3.

Wireless carriers shit on their customers any time they think they can SELL
them the very functions the phones were designed to do right out of the
box.

Everyone here knows all about hobbleware.  It's what Jailbreaking is all
about.


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4phun  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 8:37 pm
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:37:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 6, 8:20 pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:

AT&T is increaseing their network speeds to 18Mb Sunday 10/09/2008 -
AT&T WiFi should get faster if connected to AT&T U-verse broadband.

AT&T Inc. is lifting the top speed of its U-verse broadband service
from 10 megabits to 18 megabits.

The boost in speed starts Sunday, according to Dallas-based AT&T.

The service will be available for $65 a month and is included in a
bundle with AT&T’s television service.

AT&T says it has about 14.8 million broadband lines in service. Its U-
verse broadband service is available in 15 states, including Georgia.

--

It gets better and better for iPhone owners!   ;>)


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4phun  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 10:08 pm
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:08:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On Nov 7, 8:37 pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:

BlackBerry Bold: Good, but no iPhone - Dallas Morning News

CNET News
http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/11/blackberry-bold-good-...

BlackBerry Bold: Good, but no iPhone

Dallas Morning News, TX - 8 hours ago
Still, despite being the best BlackBerry ever, the Bold lags way
behind Apple's iPhone, which costs $100 less. The iPhone's greatest
virtue is its elegant ...

BlackBerry Bold: Good, but no iPhone - Dallas Morning News

MORE

Apple's iPhone outsells BlackBerry, report says - CBC.ca
 http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/11/07/tech-smartphones.html

Product Reviews
Apple's iPhone outsells BlackBerry, report says
CBC.ca, Canada - 4 hours ago
Apple has moved into second place in the smartphone market with its
iPhone, according to a report. (Eric Risberg/Associated Press) Apple
Inc.'s iPhone ...

Apple's iPhone outsells BlackBerry - Telegraph.co.uk

Apple's iPhone outsells BlackBerry
Telegraph.co.uk, United Kingdom - 3 hours ago

Apple's iPhone overtaken sales of BlackBerries to become the second-
largest provider of smartphones, according to analysts. By Urmee Khan
Over 39.9 million ...

iPhone Touch Screen is Showing the Way U.S. News & World Report
Apple's iPhone makes headway in corporate market Reuters
CNNMoney.com - VNUNet.com
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&ncl=1267911776

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&ncl=1267701784


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Larry  
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 More options Nov 7 2008, 11:38 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:38:51 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 7 2008 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:afdbde51-1f2e-4e3f-8966-
90d3c9a48...@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T Inc. is lifting the top speed of its U-verse broadband service
> from 10 megabits to 18 megabits.

Too bad noone has desktop computers than can use that much data that fast.

If your computer had a 64KB buffer (x 8 = 512K bits), that buffer will
fill, halting traffic into it, in .512Mb / 18Mb = 28ms that must be dumped
by the computer before it can download more.  Every 28ms, the bucket would
be full again.  Even if you increase the buffer size to some huge value,
the data pouring into it cannot be processed, ESPECIALLY not stored on our
archaically slow hard drives turning so slow at 7200 RPM.

ATT, and any of their competitors, knows that delivering 500 Mbps to home
computers is in no danger of overloading anything, especially if that
computer also has to process or decode or display that data stream.

DSL reports feels your iphone pain and has a special speedtest for it at:
http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html
There's some kind of software crap thru itunes they mentioned, too.
I ran the iphone speedtest and it says 3066Kbps on my N800 Linux tablet
when I clicked the wifi button.  When I ran the graphic Flash 8 speed test
on the regular DSL reports, it only showed 873Kbps and a popup warning came
from the tablet's flash player:

"A script in this movie is causing Adobe Flash Player 9 to run slowly.  If
it continues to run, your computer may become unresponsive.  So you want to
abort the script?" and wanted me to make it stop.

These slower speeds on the slower tablet computer show you how useless
18Mbps will be to a normal, everyday, home computer.  It's certainly not
worth paying extra for over about 6-7Mbps.


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Bob Haar  
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 More options Nov 8 2008, 10:41 am
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From: Bob Haar <bobh...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:41:30 -0500
Local: Sat, Nov 8 2008 10:41 am
Subject: Re: AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!
On 11/7/08 11:38 PMNov 7, "Larry" <no...@home.com> wrote:

> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:afdbde51-1f2e-4e3f-8966-
> 90d3c9a48...@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com:

>> AT&T Inc. is lifting the top speed of its U-verse broadband service
>> from 10 megabits to 18 megabits.

> Too bad noone has desktop computers than can use that much data that fast.

Too bad you don't know what you are talking about. I routinely get real
transfers over my Gigabit Ethernet an order of magnitude faster than that.
Now going through DSL or cable modem involves other bottlenecks but it has
nothing to do with the network capacity of the computers.

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Discussion subject changed to "More good news for iPhone users! IPHONE MORE RELIABLE THAN RIMM OR PALM" by 4phun
4phun  
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 More options Nov 9 2008, 12:35 am
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From: 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:35:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 9 2008 12:35 am
Subject: More good news for iPhone users! IPHONE MORE RELIABLE THAN RIMM OR PALM
MORE GOOD NEWS FOR IPHONE USERS 11/08/08

YOUR IPHONE IS FAR MORE RELIABLE

SquareTrade Study: iPhones more reliable than BlackBerry, Treo

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/11/malfunctionsmartpho...

The report, titled "iPhone More Reliable than BlackBerry, One Year
In", analyzes failure rates for more than 15,000 new cell phones
covered by SquareTrade warranties. SquareTrade found that after one
year of ownership, iPhone owners were half as likely as BlackBerry
owners to have a phone failure, and one-third as likely as Treo
owners.

EVEN MORE BREAKING GOOD NEWS FOR IPHONE

ANY WEBSITE CAN NOW BE INSTANTLY IPHONIZED
http://digg.com/tech_news/HOW_TO_Instantly_iPhone_ize_Your_Website

British developer Jon Wheatley let loose an awesome little tool today:
Intersquash lets you convert any website into an iPhone site…
instantly.

Video at link just click through DIGG


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