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hounslow3 @ yahoo. co. uk  
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From: hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk <hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:58:36 +0100
Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 5:58 am
Subject: iPhone and Bluetooth
I cannot seem to get my iPhone to connect to my computer via Bluetooth.

The computer acknowledges that it has discovered the phone, shows an
icon for it and even sends the phone a code to key in. But the phone
itself simply does not wish to connect.

Any advice?


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Bob Haar  
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 More options Jul 12, 8:41 am
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From: Bob Haar <bobh...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:41:57 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 8:41 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 7/12/09 5:58 AM, "hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk" <hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I cannot seem to get my iPhone to connect to my computer via Bluetooth.

> Any advice?

You should use 802.11 wireless for this purpose. The iPhone Bluetooth
supports only wireless headsets and similar usage such as car audio systems.

See http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1296481 in the Apple
discussion forum.


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Jon Ribbens  
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 More options Jul 12, 9:07 am
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From: Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:07:06 -0500
Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 2009-07-12, Bob Haar <bobh...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 7/12/09 5:58 AM, "hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk" <hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> I cannot seem to get my iPhone to connect to my computer via Bluetooth.

>> Any advice?

> You should use 802.11 wireless for this purpose. The iPhone Bluetooth
> supports only wireless headsets and similar usage such as car audio systems.

It supports Bluetooth tethering too.

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Larry  
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 More options Jul 12, 9:07 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:07:01 +0000
Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
news:slrnh5jnvq.jsn.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net:

> On 2009-07-12, Bob Haar <bobh...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 7/12/09 5:58 AM, "hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk" <hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:

>>> I cannot seem to get my iPhone to connect to my computer via
>>> Bluetooth.

>>> Any advice?

>> You should use 802.11 wireless for this purpose. The iPhone Bluetooth
>> supports only wireless headsets and similar usage such as car audio
>> systems.

> It supports Bluetooth tethering too.

Well, Jon!  TELL HIM HOW TO SET IT UP!

or, tell him the URL for the instructions to set it up.....

Doesn't that make more sense than I've-Got-A-Secret?

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Malcolm  
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 More options Jul 12, 9:54 pm
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From: Malcolm <malcolm@invalid>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:54:13 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 2009-07-12 21:07:01 -0400, Larry <no...@home.com> said:

On the iPhone, go to "Settings" > "General" > Network" > "Internet
Tethering".  It shows instructions on starting it.  Of course your
carrier has to support it.  US AT&T doesn't yet.  Canada does if you
have a data plan of at least 1 GB.  Check with your carrier to see if
they support it, and if there are extra charges.

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Jon Ribbens  
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 More options Jul 13, 10:46 am
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From: Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:46:23 -0500
Local: Mon, Jul 13 2009 10:46 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 2009-07-13, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:

> Doesn't that make more sense than I've-Got-A-Secret?

Do you never tire of inventing new ways in which to be an idiot?

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Larry  
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 More options Jul 13, 1:32 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:32:02 +0000
Local: Mon, Jul 13 2009 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
news:slrnh5mi5v.diu.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net:

> On 2009-07-13, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>> Doesn't that make more sense than I've-Got-A-Secret?

> Do you never tire of inventing new ways in which to be an idiot?

No thanks to YOU, the instructions have been posted.....with the
disclaimer, of course, that it does NOT work in the United States.  Does O2
support tethering on iPhone in the UK?

The only thing Bluetooth on iPhone does in the USA is headphones....sort
of.

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of the last cleric.


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Jon Ribbens  
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 More options Jul 13, 3:35 pm
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From: Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:35:38 -0500
Local: Mon, Jul 13 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 2009-07-13, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:

> No thanks to YOU, the instructions have been posted

Some instructions have been posted - which may or may not have anything
to do with the original poster's question, given that their question
was so vague as to be essentially unanswerable.

I wasn't aware that in order to post to Usenet it was compulsory to
answer the question posed by the first post in the thread. You didn't
answer it either, what punishment have you meted out to yourself?

> Does O2 support tethering on iPhone in the UK?

Yes.

> The only thing Bluetooth on iPhone does in the USA is headphones....sort
> of.

Wrong, since 3.0 apps can use Bluetooth for all sorts of things.
Plus, what do you mean by "sort of"?

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Larry  
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 More options Jul 13, 8:58 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:58:55 +0000
Local: Mon, Jul 13 2009 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote in
news:slrnh5n34a.kri.jon+usenet@snowy.squish.net:

> Wrong, since 3.0 apps can use Bluetooth for all sorts of things.
> Plus, what do you mean by "sort of"?

I'll play a little longer...SPECIFICALLY what "sorts of things"?

Bluetooth PAN Yes (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647)
Bluetooth A2DP Yes
Bluetooth AVRCP (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647) But not on many
phones as per the users posting to forums across the net.  Apple says
pause/play/stop ONLY.
Bluetooth HSP Yes
Bluetooth HFP Yes

All of these are a NO....many would be very useful!

Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)  NO PICTURES to picture frames!
Basic Printing Profile (BPP) NO PRINTING ALLOWED!
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP) (NO file swapping!)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID) (NO external keyboards, mouse)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP) (NO more file swapping!)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) (Hey, isn't this a PHONE?!)
Serial Port Profile (SPP) (NO serial storage device)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)

Users say of iPhone Bluetooth:

Fred says, "BTW – Even thought the iPhone supports Hands-Free Profile,
it appears it does not do a great job with it. I’ve been using my iPhone
with my car’s hands-free capability and the voice quality is so bad I
can’t use it to make/receive calls. The two other phones I use with my
car work fine."

siayma says:
March 10, 2009 at 9:31 am

"What are you trying to tell me I cannot send pictures or music from my
nokia e65 to my iPhone? If so that’s really quite bad. Can someone
please help. All my iPhone does is says it’s searchn for devises but
nothing seems to happen. I don’t know y iPhone does this as this feature
will just put people off buying stuff from iTunes."

Rubtstar says:
"I cant believe I bought an iphone…its utter crap
I cant:
receieve photos/music/anything from other phones
forward text messages
export contacts from iphone to sim
no video recorder
transfer songs from my music folder on my pc to iphone
has a crap text predictor
etc etc
I should have stuck with my nokia"

Usenet isn't big enough to include the rest.....

Things don't look that good in iPhone Paradise....

http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/iphone-bluetooth-tethering-problem-
t12382.html

Great information on tethering this puppy is on:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10040-10133
from Canada where Rogers has partial, limited tethering turned on.

I'm still looking for a PAN enabled iPhone in Charleston so I can test
its other PAN capabilities, like file/picture/music sharing with my
Linux tablet.  Don't see how that's going to work without a protocol
iPhone doesn't support like OPP, FTP, etc., but we'll at least look.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to drop by your car, fire up the monster
notebook, move stuff off and on iphone at will, in a parking lot without
gobbling up your 5GB/month network limit.

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entrails of the last cleric.


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nospam  
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 More options Jul 14, 2:35 am
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From: nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:35:02 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 2:35 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
In article <Xns9C47D571B8DE2noonehome...@74.209.131.13>, Larry

<no...@home.com> wrote:
> Bluetooth PAN Yes (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647)
> All of these are a NO....many would be very useful!

wrong

> Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)  NO PICTURES to picture frames!
> Basic Printing Profile (BPP) NO PRINTING ALLOWED!
> Fax Profile (FAX)
> File Transfer Profile (FTP) (NO file swapping!)
> Object Push Profile (OPP) (NO more file swapping!)

wifi

> Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)

modems. i remember those. pan supercedes dun anyway.

> Human Interface Device Profile (HID) (NO external keyboards, mouse)

can be added

> Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) (Hey, isn't this a PHONE?!)

the link *you* gave lists it as being supported.
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647>

> Serial Port Profile (SPP) (NO serial storage device)

oh right, we're in the days of modems. do they even make serial port
storage devices anymore?

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Jon Ribbens  
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 More options Jul 14, 10:19 am
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From: Jon Ribbens <jon+use...@unequivocal.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:19:16 -0500
Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 10:19 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
On 2009-07-14, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> I'll play a little longer...SPECIFICALLY what "sorts of things"?

> All of these are a NO....many would be very useful!

> Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)  NO PICTURES to picture frames!
> Basic Printing Profile (BPP) NO PRINTING ALLOWED!

[etc]

I am under the impression that applications can implement whatever
they like. Try searching for 'bluetooth' in iTunes.

I know that you are going to complain that, even if this is correct,
it does not mean that you can, for example, use a bluetooth keyboard
with the iPhone in general. You are right, and this is a perfectly
valid observation. However it is *not* true at all to say "The only
thing Bluetooth on iPhone does in the USA is headphones".

> Fred says, "BTW – Even thought the iPhone supports Hands-Free Profile,
> it appears it does not do a great job with it.

<shrug> My colleague uses his iPhone with his car's hands-free
bluetooth fine. I'd suggest that you can probably find on-line
complaints about pretty much any consumer you product you like,
it hardly proves anything.

> "I cant believe I bought an iphone…its utter crap
> I cant:
> receieve photos/music/anything from other phones
> forward text messages
> export contacts from iphone to sim
> no video recorder
> transfer songs from my music folder on my pc to iphone
> has a crap text predictor
> etc etc
> I should have stuck with my nokia"

It certainly sounds like this person should have done a tiny bit of
research before spending their money, yes. Also they should probably
read the manual and learn how to use their purchase.

> Great information on tethering this puppy is on:
> http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10040-10133
> from Canada where Rogers has partial, limited tethering turned on.

Works fine for me here. This message sent to you courtesy of iPhone
Tethering ;-)

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 More options Jul 14, 5:18 pm
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From: NightStalker <NightStal...@somewhere.or.other>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:18:11 +1000
Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
In article <Xns9C47D571B8DE2noonehome...@74.209.131.13>, no...@home.com
says...

> Users say of iPhone Bluetooth:

> Fred says, "BTW =3F Even thought the iPhone supports Hands-Free Profile,
> it appears it does not do a great job with it. I=3Fve been using my iPhone
> with my car=3Fs hands-free capability and the voice quality is so bad I
> can=3Ft use it to make/receive calls. The two other phones I use with my
> car work fine."

Don't know what problem he's been having, but my iPhone works absolutely
fine with my Nokia CK7W Bluetooth car kit left over in the car from my
Nokia N95 days.  The sound is crystal clear, through the speaker under
the dash, the radio-mute works perfectly, and I can use the new Voice
Control without even looking at the phone.  I'm very happy with it.

Oh yes - it's the 3GS, but my previous 3G also worked perfectly apart
from not having voice control.  The voice control is the main reason I
upgraded from the 3G to the 3GS.

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Larry  
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 More options Jul 14, 10:54 pm
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From: Larry <no...@home.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:54:14 +0000
Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720092335022303%
nos...@nospam.invalid:

>> Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)

> modems. i remember those. pan supercedes dun anyway.

That's odd.  ATT supports DUN.  If it had DUN, you guys would already be on
3G with your macbooks.

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 More options Jul 15, 10:45 am
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From: nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:45:48 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 15 2009 10:45 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and Bluetooth
In article <Xns9C48E8FCB4D3Anoonehome...@74.209.131.13>, Larry

<no...@home.com> wrote:
> >> Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN) (DUN uses it as a modem)

> > modems. i remember those. pan supercedes dun anyway.

> That's odd.  ATT supports DUN.  If it had DUN, you guys would already be on
> 3G with your macbooks.

it's not a bluetooth limitation. it's at&t's idiocy, and will work once
the configuration is manually entered, on bluetooth or usb.

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