Ex-Hacker Adrian Lamo Institutionalized for Asperger's
By Kevin Poulsen May 20, 2010 5:46 pm
Last month Adrian Lamo, a man once hunted by the FBI, did something
contrary to his nature. He picked up a payphone outside a Northern
California supermarket and called the cops.
Someone had grabbed Lamo's backpack containing the prescription anti-
depressants he'd been on since 2004, the year he pleaded guilty to
hacking The New York Times. He wanted his medication back. But when
the police arrived at the Safeway parking lot it was Lamo, not the
missing backpack, that interested them. Something about his halting,
monotone speech, perhaps slowed by his medication, got the officers'
attention.
An ambulance arrived. "After a few moments of conversation, they just
kind of exchanged a look and told me to get on the stretcher," says
Lamo.
Thus began Lamo's journey through California's mental health system —
and self discovery. He was transported to a local emergency room and
put under guard, and then transferred to the Woodland Memorial
Hospital near Sacramento, where he was placed on a 72-hour involuntary
psychiatric hold under a state law allowing the temporary forced
hospitalization of those judged dangerous or unable to care for
themselves. As the staff evaluated him and adjusted his medication, a
judicial officer extended his stay, and three days became nine.
When Lamo was finally discharged to his parents' house on May 7, he
left the hospital with a new diagnosis. At 29 years old Lamo learned
he has Asperger's Disorder.
"It's kind of a surprise that it took me until almost 30 to find I had
a particular disorder and get proper treatment for it," Lamo says.
Sometimes called the "geek syndrome," Asperger's is a mild form of
autism that makes social interactions difficult, and can lead to
obsessive, highly focused behavior.
There are no reliable figures on how many people have Asperger's, but
anecdotally a lot of them are drawn into the computer field,
particularly the logic-heavy world of coding. BitTorrent creator Bram
Cohen has diagnosed himself with the disorder, and Microsoft founder
Bill Gates is frequently speculated to have it.
Also anecdotally, people with Asperger's are frequently diagnosed in
adulthood, even into their 50s, according to the U.S. Autism and
Asperger's Association. As in Lamo's case, the diagnosis often follows
a run-in with the police, says Dennis Debbaudt, an independent
consultant who trains law enforcement agencies on interacting with
people on the autistic spectrum.
"They may be living a life where people think they're odd, they're
unusual, they're eccentric, whatever you want to call it," says
Debbaudt. "But nobody's thinking, 'Oh, by the way, I think they have
Asperger's Syndrome.' It's not something that would pop into the mind
of the general person or law enforcement. It's just, 'There's
something different here. This person communicates different. His body
language is different.'"
The Asperger's diagnosis, though, didn't come as a complete surprise
to Lamo or his family — the therapist Lamo had been seeing for
depression had already suggested he visit a specialist to be evaluated
for Asperger's. Now, the new medication prescribed in Woodland has
made a positive change in his interactions with other people.
"Talking to strangers was really hard for me," Lamo says. "I had to
script it all in my head and act out normal behaviors in a very
conscious way. Essentially, I had to learn how human beings act."
Photo caption: Adrian Lamo at the home of his parents in Carmichael,
California, five days after his release from an involuntary
psychiatric hold.
"Now I no longer feel there's a surface tension that I have to break
through when I talk to somebody, like I'm a fish going after a
particularly tasty bug and I have to break through the water to get
it," he continues. "I just talk to somebody, like it's a natural
function."
To a reporter who's been covering Lamo for a decade, the diagnosis
makes a layman's instant, intuitive sense.
Lamo made his mark in the early 2000s with a string of brazen but
mostly harmless hacks against large companies, conducted out in the
open and with a striking naiveté as to the inevitable consequences for
himself. In 2001, when he was 20, Lamo snuck into an unprotected
content-management tool at Yahoo's news site to tinker with a Reuters
story, adding a made-up quote by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft.
Lamo's other targets included WorldCom, Excite@Home and Microsoft; he
alerted the press to each intrusion, and sometimes worked with the
hacked company to close the security holes he'd exploited. Unemployed
at the time, and prone to wander the country by Greyhound, he was
given the appellation "the Homeless Hacker" by the media.
His hacking career ended around 2002, after Lamo penetrated the
internal network of The New York Times and added himself to the
paper's database of op-ed contributors, putting himself in the virtual
company of William F. Buckley Jr. and Jimmy Carter. The Times didn't
think it was funny, and the FBI and federal prosecutors in New York
charged Lamo under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. He pleaded guilty
in 2004, and was sentenced to six months of house arrest at his
parents' home in Carmichael, California, followed by two years of
probation.
It was around that time that Lamo fell into a deep depression that has
dogged him until last month. "I'd associated his depression with what
had happened with the FBI," says his father, Mario Lamo, who describes
his son as having had a normal childhood. "As a child he would give
speeches to people and entertain visitors and talk about a thousand
things, and we didn't notice anything irregular," he says.
But as a teenager, Lamo began struggling in social situations. Since
his discharge from Woodland, "I've noticed an incredible difference,"
says the senior Lamo.
Lamo joins a growing list of computer intruders who've been diagnosed
with Asperger's, though usually the diagnosis comes when the hacker
faces the criminal justice system for the first time, rather than six
years later.
In December, a defense psychiatrist concluded that credit card thief
Albert Gonzalez exhibited behavior consistent with Asperger's. A
government-appointed psychiatrist rejected the claim, and Gonzalez got
20 years. Earlier, in August, a Los Angeles computer intruder involved
in a lucrative fraud scheme received a slightly reduced sentence
because of his Asperger's, which his lawyer argued made him vulnerable
to manipulation by the ringleader in the scheme.
In the most high-profile case, the British hacker Gary McKinnon was
diagnosed with Asperger's at the age of 42, shortly after losing a
legal challenge to an extradition order that would have sent him to
America to face charges of sabotaging unclassified Pentagon computers.
The diagnosis opened new legal avenues for McKinnon, who now appears
likely to avoid extradition.
For his part, Lamo thinks Asperger's might explain his knack for
slipping into corporate networks — he usually operated with little
more than a web browser and a lot of hunch work. "I have always
maintained that what I did isn't necessarily technical, it's about
seeing things differently," he says. "So if my brain is wired
differently, that makes sense."
But he scoffs at the notion that Asperger's should mitigate the
consequences of illegal behavior. Asperger's might help explain his
success in hacking, but not his willingness to do it, he says. "If, in
fact, the diagnosis is accurate, it had zip to do with my actions at
that time."
While Lamo thinks he shouldn't have been confined against his will, he
says most of the hospital staff were well-intentioned and
professional, and he's been happier since the incident. "Many of them
were beautiful people who had a great deal of genuine concern for
their patients, and I feel that I benefited from their attention," he
says.
He tried to help them, as well. After the staff discovered his hacking
past, they began seeking him out for computer advice. "The questions
changed from, 'Do you know where you are? What's today's date?,' to,
'Hey, I have a Mac."
"They also untaped the login and password from the state mental health-
database terminal at a nurse's station," he adds.
Today, he says, "I feel less sedated, more social, and I feel better
able to carry out the day-to-day functions of the average member of
society.
"I still can't say if the situation were to be repeated back at the
Safeway, that they wouldn't look at me and say, 'Yeah, yeah, better
get him in.'"
(Photos: Ariel Zambelich/Wired.com)
>Touchy question?
The question is: what makes you think that they are that
high-functioning? I think most of them live in their basements and
come out only under a full moon.
LV
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>On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:47:38 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Touchy question?
>
>
>The question is: what makes you think that they are that
>high-functioning? I think blah blah blah
So why not gather some facts, Donna Quixote? Are you that averse to
reality?
don't forget to keep reading my blog, missy
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>
> Touchy question?
>
There is no question in Jaye's post.
KBW > There is no question in Jaye's post.
The SUBJECT here is a question.
Re: How many usenet misfits do you think have Aspergers?
What is your answer, Kent?
Perhaps this question would be better.
Would Aspergers be enough for a Judge
to put a non violent burglary Felon under
a LOT of court supervision probation
rather than putting him in prison?
Adrian Lamo became even MORE famous
after this article was written.
He is the one who informed on the
Wikileaks soldier.
I bet he's REALLY popular with the
TOR (The Onion Router) and privacy
people on the internet!
Not to mention the kook liberals!
> The question is: what makes you think that they are that
> high-functioning? I think most of them live in their basements and
> come out only under a full moon.
High functioning refers to their position within the spectrum of Autism.
As for living in basements and coming out at night, yes that's quite a
common symptom as they frequently lack social skills and try to avoid
interaction.
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> G > Touchy question?
>
> KBW > There is no question in Jaye's post.
>
> The SUBJECT here is a question.
> Re: How many usenet misfits do you think have Aspergers?
>
> What is your answer, Kent?
>
I'm not Kent.
>
>
> Perhaps this question would be better.
>
> Would Aspergers be enough for a Judge
> to put a non violent burglary Felon under
> a LOT of court supervision probation
> rather than putting him in prison?
>
Is that what kept you from a longer sentence when you viciously beat up
your ex-wife, Donna?
I await your answer with baited breath.
--
Of course not, Kent.
>What do you think the percentage is?
I am not sure I can count that high :-)
LV
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Tom Watkins, child abuse, OWI, child molestation, drugs, Greg Hanson,
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>>KBW > I'm not Kent.
>>
>>Of course not, Kent.
>
>What do you think the percentage is?
Your question makes no sense, Greg.
Are you asking what percentage of the time you claim your sock is
me? If so, I would guess about 80%.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson:
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
As of Saturday, March 27, 2010:
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE
Comments: OPA $2805.04
COPIES TO PA
VERIFICATION OF ACCOUNT
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT
Comments: JUDGMENT AGAINST GREGORY HANSON FOR $2805.04
+ INTEREST AT 7.271% FROM 8/6/98 & $45.00 COSTS.
Comments: NOTE OF GARN/NOTE TO DEFT SERV 9/24/98 BY WCSD
TO SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (ED POLKERS) FOR GREG HANSON
FEES $35.60
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
him from Ed Polkers. There is nothing to even suggest any of the
money legally owed has been paid. The SoL on the order has likely
expired, but Greg still can't risk getting a job due to it.
As of Saturday, March 27, 2010:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
Me: Hey, he used your standards.
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
reasoning.
Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.
>On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 23:24:22 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>What do you think the percentage is?
>
>I am not sure I can count that high :-)
>
>LV
How sad for you.
Have you considered adult education?
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Maybe Tucci will answer for him.
ms > Maybe Tucci will answer for him.
Kent tried saying Tucci was me.
jeezus! how many sock puppets does that make of kents? dude is bat
shit crazy,,,,
i especially found is amusing when kent used the tucci handle (you
know, when he gave the kent handle a break for a week for the purpose
of giving the perception he was traveling the world lol!!!) to
associate himself with ken smith once again as being a world
traveler. this is how stupid he is. kent apparently didn't stop to
think that most people here don't know ken smith's traveling
lifetstyle other than kent and moe. and i couldn't find a
conversation between tucci and ken smith in the archives to suggest
tucci has knowledge of ken smith's activities. kent should do his
homework before he tries to fool somebody. whadda pathetic bastard.
G > Do you have Aspergers, Kent?
ms > Maybe Tucci will answer for him.
AC > jeezus! how many sock puppets does that
AC > make of kents? dude is bat shit crazy,,,,
Kent doesn't want to be who he is.
>G > Do you have Aspergers, Kent?
>
>ms > Maybe Tucci will answer for him.
>
>AC > jeezus! how many sock puppets does that
>AC > make of kents? dude is bat shit crazy,,,,
>
>Kent doesn't want to be who he is.
You have been reduced to using socks (you've outted yourself),
claimed you are me, etc.
Clearly you want to be someone, ANYONE, other than who you are.
I suppose if I were a failed CPS shill, as you've been PROVED to
be using nothing more than your own posts, I would want a new identity
as well.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson:
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
It wouldn't suprsie me that marton showers, arkansas cracker et all
turns out to be greg socks. It would fit the obsessive little loser's
way of doing things.
Moe
G > Do you have Aspergers, Kent?
ms > Maybe Tucci will answer for him.
AC > jeezus! how many sock puppets does that
AC > make of kents? dude is bat shit crazy,,,,
G > Kent doesn't want to be who he is.
Moe > It wouldn't suprsie me that marton showers, arkansas cracker et
all
Moe > turns out to be greg socks. It would fit the obsessive little
loser's
Moe > way of doing things.
Really? Moe as "Kabuki Bob" actually said that? LOL
DO you have Aspergers, Kent?
What IS your psychiatric condition, Kent?
Kent is insane, imo.
> i especially found is amusing when kent used the tucci handle (you
> know, when he gave the kent handle a break for a week for the purpose
> of giving the perception he was traveling the world lol!!!) to
> associate himself with ken smith once again as being a world
> traveler. this is how stupid he is. kent apparently didn't stop to
> think that most people here don't know ken smith's traveling
> lifetstyle other than kent and moe. and i couldn't find a
> conversation between tucci and ken smith in the archives to suggest
> tucci has knowledge of ken smith's activities. kent should do his
> homework before he tries to fool somebody. whadda pathetic bastard.
I pity him.
ms > I pity him.
I pity the Burglary Victims
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
I pity the teenager that Kent USED.
BILYEU, SEAN MICHAEL DOB 12/18/1985
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.
6(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
I pity the poor bastards at the
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
Who had to deal with Kent's BS while he was at
their residential facility.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
> > Our wives travel with us. Also not a secret.
>
> kent your forged passport is not a secret.
>
> > Ken has no children, so they can't travel with him.
>
> ken having no puppies doesn't prove that you were just in morocco.
> are you sniffing coke or airplane glue?
>
> >I have a son
> > and a daughter (again, not a secret) and they travel with Lin and I.
> > None of this is classified.
AC > lol! you silly dick. kent there's no proof that
AC > you have a wife and kids. it's a a ruse in an
AC > attempt to tell the world that you're not the
AC > lonely loser you appear to be. spending 15
AC > years at a bob larson newsgroup doesn't fit
AC > the profile of a world traveler with a wife and
AC > kids. but it does fit the profile of a scoundrel
AC > garage burglar with two felonies.
Yup.
> > >this is how stupid he is. kent apparently didn't stop to
> > >think that most people here don't know ken smith's traveling
> > >lifetstyle other than kent and moe.
>
> > Or anyone who has spent a few minutes reading past posts in the
> > Lar$on group where Ken wrote about Australia and other places he's
> > traveled. They can also read about my travels.
> why would tucci have the motive to dig up old posts by ken smith
> talking about world traveling and then pop up here to make one off-
> hand comment years later (last week to be precise) to conveniently
> align yourself with a legit world traveler like ken smith? you are a
> sad specimen kent.
> > These specific posts make up a small amount of the total topics
> > of discussion in the Lar$on group, but they aren't hard to find.
> not for you. but for a casual yahoo it would be. but tucci isn't a
> casual yahoo cuz tucci is you kent. you sneaky bastard :-)
> > >and i couldn't find a
> > >conversation between tucci and ken smith in the archives to suggest
> > >tucci has knowledge of ken smith's activities.
> > I don't think Greg was a part of the Lar$on newsgroup when Ken
> > was posting. As such, none of his socks would likely have any
> > interaction with Ken.
> neither was tucci, dumbo. curiously you didn't post as tucci when ken
> smith was here. you just fell on your own sword.
> > >kent should do his
> > >homework before he tries to fool somebody. whadda pathetic bastard.
> > You are so DESPERATE to distract from the truth that you have to
> > dishonestly ignore the archived posts for the group and think *I* am a
> > pathetic bastard?
> i know you are a pathetic bastard cuz you inadvertantly tell me so.
> kent as soon as you post photos of you in morocco, aruba, china, the
> ukraine etc. etc. i will believe you and eat krow.
ms > who's we? you and sean?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
KBW > Note the gender of the person, Greg.
There is no tag for gender when I link to it.
You must have been signed into Facebook.
I honestly thought it was a dude.
I posted excerpts of your ONLINE court records, Kent.
They show SEAN MICHAEL BILYEU DOB 12/18/1985
was your teen accomplice.
KBW > You used to claim Sean was male.
KBW > If Sean is male, the link can't be for him.
KBW > And one is going to know their own gender.
Kent, Likely but not absolute.
If that's YOUR Sean they could be transexual.
Look at that facebook photo again.
The person looks transexual either way.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
There are only 9 Sean Bilyeu's listed
in the entire USA.
3 of them are for Sean R 38 in 4 locations in SC and LA
There are 6 other Sean Bilyeu listings in the whole USA
and they are all in Ankeny Iowa.
None of those is listed as 25 years old, but SMB is there.
So WHAT CITY is this Sean Bilyeu facebook for?
not just signed in but you'd have to be an actual friend of the dude
to see his listed gender. so kent must be a friend to conclusively
know the stated gender on the profile. what a moron.
> I honestly thought it was a dude.
it is. you can always write him and ask if you're that confused. did
you notice the boy's birthdate and how it happens to match the age of
the garage burglar's accomplice?
ms > who's we? you and sean?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
KBW > Note the gender of the person, Greg.
G > There is no tag for gender when I link to it.
G > You must have been signed into Facebook.
AC > not just signed in but you'd have to be an
AC > actual friend of the dude to see his listed
AC > gender. so kent must be a friend to
AC > conclusively know the stated gender on
AC > the profile. what a moron.
G > I honestly thought it was a dude.
AC > it is. you can always write him and ask
AC > if you're that confused. did you notice
AC > the boy's birthdate and how it happens
AC > to match the age of the garage
AC > burglar's accomplice?
ROFL!
What do you think the indicators are, Kunt?
Zax > Probably higher than many other interests.
Zax > Aspergers [ sufferers ] tend to be highly
Zax > analytical and single-focused so they are
Zax > quite likely to enjoy security, crypto and
Zax > privacy projects.
You didn't even mention that they can avoid real social interaction.
One description of Aspergers I read mentioned that
they commonly have a lot of ANGER ISSUES and
commonly have a "comorbidity", other disorders
like Tourettes etc.
Remember a guy named Green Xenon who kept
asking about ways to make his computer
absolutely and totally untraceable?
One of his posts is almost like a "manifesto",
describing his anger and his motivation was to
take revenge on the world without being caught.
He admitted to having Aspergers.
I've recently concluded that especially on usenet
the number of Aspergers cases is over half of all posters.
G > What do you think the indicators are, Kunt?
KBW > Using a reference to female genitalia as an insult is one,
right?
That's spelled differently.
> >not just signed in but you'd have to be an actual friend of the dude
> >to see his listed gender. so kent must be a friend to conclusively
> >know the stated gender on the profile. what a moron.
>
> Why do you lie?
> Anyone with an interest can click the link, then Sean's name and
> see, "Sean only shares some of her profile information with everyone.
> If you know Sean, send her a message or add her as a friend."
kentucci are you looking the same sean bilyeu facebook profile as the
rest of us? the dude in the photo has a visible sideburn from here to
gibraltar. try not to be a moron.
> I realize you have a demon of lying, but wow, you are compelled
> to lie about that which is so easy to prove.
oh kentucci. after your buddy's profile was debuted here today you
thought you were going to be slick and tell sean to untick the male
gender option on his profile and tick female to once again deceive
your sneaky ass way out of it. nice try.
>
>
> >> I honestly thought it was a dude.
>
> >it is. you can always write him and ask if you're that confused. did
> >you notice the boy's birthdate and how it happens to match the age of
> >the garage burglar's accomplice?
>
> There is no date of birth listed.
sean must REALLY like you to go and scrub that piece of info from his
profile so quickly!!!
> You should ask Satan for a demon upgrade. Your current demon of
> lying is making you look like a fool.
a demon??? aww shit! well if i have a demon then atleast i have a
very understandable defense. now.... what's behind your flair for
lying kentucci?
Your point?
I see you snipped how I was able to show you display the
characteristics of Aspergers. Did I hit the proverbial nail a little
too close on the head?
>On Aug 13, 6:53 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >not just signed in but you'd have to be an actual friend of the dude
>> >to see his listed gender. so kent must be a friend to conclusively
>> >know the stated gender on the profile. what a moron.
>>
>> Why do you lie?
>> Anyone with an interest can click the link, then Sean's name and
>> see, "Sean only shares some of her profile information with everyone.
>> If you know Sean, send her a message or add her as a friend."
>
>
>kentucci are you looking the same sean bilyeu facebook profile as the
>rest of us? the dude in the photo has a visible sideburn from here to
>gibraltar. try not to be a moron.
>
Is that why you removed the link in your reply?
It's quite clear the "sideburns" are in fact not actual facial
hair. It's hair from the side of the head combed down.
If you're going to lie, pick to lie about that which is not so
easy to prove.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
>
>> I realize you have a demon of lying, but wow, you are compelled
>> to lie about that which is so easy to prove.
>
>
>oh kentucci. after your buddy's profile was debuted here today you
>thought you were going to be slick and tell sean to untick the male
>gender option on his profile and tick female to once again deceive
>your sneaky ass way out of it. nice try.
>
Feel free to prove your claim, unless you're simply offing more
proof that you can't be honest.
>
>
>>
>>
>> >> I honestly thought it was a dude.
>>
>> >it is. you can always write him and ask if you're that confused. did
>> >you notice the boy's birthdate and how it happens to match the age of
>> >the garage burglar's accomplice?
>>
>> There is no date of birth listed.
>
>
>sean must REALLY like you to go and scrub that piece of info from his
>profile so quickly!!!
>
One can't scrub that which was never present, simpleton.
>
>
>> You should ask Satan for a demon upgrade. Your current demon of
>> lying is making you look like a fool.
>
>a demon??? aww shit! well if i have a demon then atleast i have a
>very understandable defense. now.... what's behind your flair for
>lying kentucci?
Prove just one lie from me. Just one is all I ask.
--
'Life is pain. Anybody that says different is selling something.'
-- Fezzik's mother
> Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
> attacking my first wife (deceased).
> http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Yeah well she sucked nigger dick so what
--
I have multiple DUIS, beat my kids, paid $360K for a house worth $275K
got handed a divorce and a Restaining Order to keep away from all of
them. I'm 36, got a beer belly that looks like I'm pregnant 9 months.
Gawd, isn't life good!
Imagine having TWO THIEVING FELONIES
so UNABLE TO GET A GOOD JOB
and being so damned stupid that your own
parents have to set up the inheritance to be
paid out to you in small monthly portions
to keep you from spending the family
fortune on magic beans.
Kent is really that stupid.
WOW! That's some diagnostic ability you have. Don't even have
to speak directly with the patient.
> Is that why you removed the link in your reply?
> It's quite clear the "sideburns" are in fact not actual facial
> hair. It's hair from the side of the head combed down.
> I
YOU are nuts, Kentucci, a certifiable criminal liar.
> a demon??? aww shit! well if i have a demon then atleast i have a
> very understandable defense. now.... what's behind your flair for
> lying kentucci?
>
Wills is a pathological liar.
Zax > Probably higher than many other interests.
Zax > Aspergers [ sufferers ] tend to be highly
Zax > analytical and single-focused so they are
Zax > quite likely to enjoy security, crypto and
Zax > privacy projects.
G > You didn't even mention that they can avoid real social
interaction.
G > One description of Aspergers I read mentioned that
G > they commonly have a lot of ANGER ISSUES and
G > commonly have a "comorbidity", other disorders
G > like Tourettes etc.
G > Remember a guy named Green Xenon who kept
G > asking about ways to make his computer
G > absolutely and totally untraceable?
G > One of his posts is almost like a "manifesto",
G > describing his anger and his motivation was to
G > take revenge on the world without being caught.
G > He admitted to having Aspergers.
G > I've recently concluded that especially on usenet
G > the number of Aspergers cases is over half of all posters.
NN > WOW! That's some diagnostic ability
NN > you have. Don't even have to speak
NN > directly with the patient.
Aspergers people avoid that kind of interaction.
> >kentucci are you looking the same sean bilyeu facebook profile as the
> >rest of us? the dude in the photo has a visible sideburn from here to
> >gibraltar. try not to be a moron.
>
> Is that why you removed the link in your reply?
when did i remove the link? i don't have that kind of authority to
remove a link from the newsgroups. besides the link is still easily
accessible in this thread, brainstem.
> It's quite clear the "sideburns" are in fact not actual facial
> hair. It's hair from the side of the head combed down.
nope. it's not clear that sean is using a strand of hair to mimic
male sideburns. kentucci, this is almost as good as your claim that a
friend of yours employed by the federal courthouse with access to the
webserver doctored your court document as just a "prank" and that the
garage burglary is all just a big joke HAR!! HAR!!
p.s. is sean okay with you thinking of him as a female? do you have
a transgender fetish?
>
> >oh kentucci. after your buddy's profile was debuted here today you
> >thought you were going to be slick and tell sean to untick the male
> >gender option on his profile and tick female to once again deceive
> >your sneaky ass way out of it. nice try.
>
> Feel free to prove your claim, unless you're simply offing more
> proof that you can't be honest.
well your lack of proof to disprove my claim actually proves my
claim. thanks kentucci !!
> >sean must REALLY like you to go and scrub that piece of info from his
> >profile so quickly!!!
>
> One can't scrub that which was never present, simpleton.
um kentucci....if that isn't your sean, then how do you know the
birthdate was never present?!
> >> You should ask Satan for a demon upgrade. Your current demon of
> >> lying is making you look like a fool.
>
> >a demon??? aww shit! well if i have a demon then atleast i have a
> >very understandable defense. now.... what's behind your flair for
> >lying kentucci?
>
> Prove just one lie from me. Just one is all I ask.
well as i just pointed out earlier, you helped me prove one of your
lies by your lack of proving me wrong (see above); the fact that you
are calling sean's sideburn a females strand of hair to mimic a male
sideburn is another lie; you said one but i named 2. i'm sure the
people here who know your act here much better than myself could add
to the list.
kentucci go get fucked.
http://www.myspace.com/smb20087
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
Do you think Sean M Bilyeu is happy that
Kent said Sean's Facebook photo looked like a girl?
>http://www.myspace.com/smb20087
>
>http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
Why are you stalking people named Sean Bilyeu, Greg?
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson:
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
>On Aug 14, 4:06 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >kentucci are you looking the same sean bilyeu facebook profile as the
>> >rest of us? the dude in the photo has a visible sideburn from here to
>> >gibraltar. try not to be a moron.
>>
>> Is that why you removed the link in your reply?
>
>
>when did i remove the link?
When you replied, stupid.
> i don't have that kind of authority to
>remove a link from the newsgroups.
That's not the claim I made.
Interesting how you have to LIE about this.
> besides the link is still easily
>accessible in this thread, brainstem.
>
>
Yet you keep removing it in your replies.
Not exactly the sign of an honest person.
>
>> It's quite clear the "sideburns" are in fact not actual facial
>> hair. It's hair from the side of the head combed down.
>
>
>nope. it's not clear that sean is using a strand of hair to mimic
>male sideburns.
To anyone with an average intellect it is.
>kentucci, this is almost as good as your claim that a
>friend of yours employed by the federal courthouse with access to the
>webserver doctored your court document as just a "prank" and that the
>garage burglary is all just a big joke HAR!! HAR!!
When have I ever made such a claim? In reality, I mean.
>
>p.s. is sean okay with you thinking of him as a female? do you have
>a transgender fetish?
The Sean Bilyeu to whom you reference claims to be female. It's
possible Sean is lying, though I can't think of any reason for it.
It's far more plausible that the Sean you want to connect to me
is a female I've never met.
Sort of like all the other people Greg has tried to connect to me,
including a husband and wife in Rogers, Arkansas whom he slipped and
acknowledged I've never met.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> >oh kentucci. after your buddy's profile was debuted here today you
>> >thought you were going to be slick and tell sean to untick the male
>> >gender option on his profile and tick female to once again deceive
>> >your sneaky ass way out of it. nice try.
>>
>> Feel free to prove your claim, unless you're simply offing more
>> proof that you can't be honest.
>
>
>well your lack of proof to disprove my claim actually proves my
>claim. thanks kentucci !!
>
I've already disproved your claims. I do so again above.
Your move.
>
>
>
>> >sean must REALLY like you to go and scrub that piece of info from his
>> >profile so quickly!!!
>>
>> One can't scrub that which was never present, simpleton.
>
>
>um kentucci....if that isn't your sean, then how do you know the
>birthdate was never present?!
>
Anyone with an interest can look at the page and see a lack of
any date of birth listed.
>
>
>
>> >> You should ask Satan for a demon upgrade. Your current demon of
>> >> lying is making you look like a fool.
>>
>> >a demon??? aww shit! well if i have a demon then atleast i have a
>> >very understandable defense. now.... what's behind your flair for
>> >lying kentucci?
>>
>> Prove just one lie from me. Just one is all I ask.
>
>well as i just pointed out earlier, you helped me prove one of your
>lies by your lack of proving me wrong (see above);
But I keep proving you wrong.
Care to try a different lie?
>the fact that you
>are calling sean's sideburn a females strand of hair to mimic a male
>sideburn is another lie;
It's clear to anyone my claim is accurate.
>you said one but i named 2. i'm sure the
You had to LIE to claim a lie from me.
>people here who know your act here much better than myself could add
>to the list.
Yet no one has been able.
Odd that.
>
>kentucci go get fucked.
Why are you concerned about my sex life?
--
Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate.
[...]
>> I've recently concluded that especially on usenet
>> the number of Aspergers cases is over half of all posters.
>
> WOW! That's some diagnostic ability you have. Don't even have
>to speak directly with the patient.
Greg is a pathological liar. Until and unless you have evidence
supporting any claim made by Greg, presume it's a lie. 99.9% of the
time the presumption will be correct.
Greg really is psychologically UNABLE to be honest with intent.
The ONLY ways in which he can be honest is if he makes a mistake, is
forced, or believes being honest will promote a lie.
>On Aug 14, 5:54 am, Keith Thrasher <thrashersite...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:03:45 -0500, Kent Wills wrote:
>> > Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
>> > attacking my first wife (deceased).
>> >http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
>>
>> Yeah well she sucked [...] so what
>> --
>> I have multiple DUIS, beat my kids, paid $360K for a house worth $275K
>> got handed a divorce and a Restaining Order to keep away from all of
>> them. I'm 36, got a beer belly that looks like I'm pregnant 9 months.
>> Gawd, isn't life good!
>
>Imagine having TWO THIEVING FELONIES
>so UNABLE TO GET A GOOD JOB
When did you commit such acts, Greg?
You haven't had a job for well over a decade. I thought it was
because you so strongly believed in your socialist ideals that you
believed the State should pay your way.
Now you offer a hint that it's due to a previously unknown, to me
anyway, criminal record.
>and being so damned stupid that your own
>parents have to set up the inheritance to be
>paid out to you in small monthly portions
>to keep you from spending the family
>fortune on magic beans.
So my parents are back to being dead?
I do wish you would pick a state of existence for them. In one
post you'll claim they're alive, then in another you'll claim they're
dead.
>
>Kent is really that stupid.
You hold the firm belief that my parents are alive and dead at
the same time, yet claim *I* am stupid?
Get off the illegal drugs, Greg. That's not an insult, though it
may appear to be. It's honest advice from me to you.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson:
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> >kentucci, this is almost as good as your claim that a
> >friend of yours employed by the federal courthouse with access to the
> >webserver doctored your court document as just a "prank" and that the
> >garage burglary is all just a big joke HAR!! HAR!!
>
> When have I ever made such a claim? In reality, I mean.
well two people you admire claim you did.
ken smith posted "IOW, he's (kent's) got a friend at the courthouse
who put a bogus case on the site. He scammed you. :)"
forevernitefan posted: "Kent SAID quite plainly that he had a friend
who has access to that web site put that there."
"that web site" forevernitefan is referring to is the iowa supreme
court web site http://www.iowabar.org
forevernitefan also posted: "If you had, Bobbie, you would have found
out in another thread that Kent MADE IT ALL UP!! Kent set the whole
thing up as a trick to see if a particular person would bite."
there are 72 replies to this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/browse_frm/thread/ab25231db5e7b862/785c34b298cfc991?hl=en̑c34b298cfc991and
wouldn't you know kent went completely silent...nowhere to be found.
strange since kent is usually right there within an hour to reply any
other time.
>On Aug 14, 8:53 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >kentucci, this is almost as good as your claim that a
>> >friend of yours employed by the federal courthouse with access to the
>> >webserver doctored your court document as just a "prank" and that the
>> >garage burglary is all just a big joke HAR!! HAR!!
>>
>> When have I ever made such a claim? In reality, I mean.
>
>
>well two people you admire claim you did.
>
>ken smith posted "IOW, he's (kent's) got a friend at the courthouse
>who put a bogus case on the site. He scammed you. :)"
>
I asked when have *I* made such a claim.
Either offer something to prove your claim, or admit your lie has
been exposed.
>
>
>forevernitefan posted: "Kent SAID quite plainly that he had a friend
>who has access to that web site put that there."
>
I asked when have *I* made such a claim.
Either offer something to prove your claim, or admit your lie has
been exposed.
>"that web site" forevernitefan is referring to is the iowa supreme
>court web site http://www.iowabar.org
>
>
>forevernitefan also posted: "If you had, Bobbie, you would have found
>out in another thread that Kent MADE IT ALL UP!! Kent set the whole
>thing up as a trick to see if a particular person would bite."
>
I asked when have *I* made such a claim.
Either offer something to prove your claim, or admit your lie has
been exposed.
>
>there are 72 replies to this thread
>wouldn't you know kent went completely silent...nowhere to be found.
>strange since kent is usually right there within an hour to reply any
>other time.
>
>
Why do you lie?
--
Nessun maggior dolore
Che ricordarsi del tempo felice
Nella miseria.
that's what I'd like to know. forevernitefan said you said so on a
different thread. i couldn't seem to find it. are you saying ken
smith and forevernitefan are lying about you? either they are lying
or you are lying. which one?
> >forevernitefan posted: "Kent SAID quite plainly that he had a friend
> >who has access to that web site put that there."
>
> I asked when have *I* made such a claim.
> Either offer something to prove your claim, or admit your lie has
> been exposed.
are you saying ken smith and forevernitefan are lying about you?
either they are lying or you are lying. which one?
> >"that web site" forevernitefan is referring to is the iowa supreme
> >court web sitehttp://www.iowabar.org
>
> >forevernitefan also posted: "If you had, Bobbie, you would have found
> >out in another thread that Kent MADE IT ALL UP!! Kent set the whole
> >thing up as a trick to see if a particular person would bite."
>
> I asked when have *I* made such a claim.
> Either offer something to prove your claim, or admit your lie has
> been exposed.
are you saying ken smith and forevernitefan are lying about you?
either they are lying or you are lying. which one?
> >there are 72 replies to this thread
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/browse_frm/thread/a...
> >wouldn't you know kent went completely silent...nowhere to be found.
> >strange since kent is usually right there within an hour to reply any
> >other time.
>
> Why do you lie?
they have medicine for your mental issues kentucci.
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
> him from Ed Polkers.
And your wife sucks nigger dicks so I would say you two are even.
Yawn.
>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:59:47 -0500, Kent Wills wrote:
>
>> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
>> him from Ed Polkers.
>
>And your wife sucks nigger dicks so I would say you two are even.
I'm one person and I'm white.
Your move.
--
Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you
realize that it was your money to start with.
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.
6(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
http://fifthdcs.com/addresses.cfm?location=fort
Fort Des Moines Community Corrections Complex
Main Phone Number: (515) 242-6900
Building 68
68 Thayer St
Des Moines, IA 50315
fax (515) 242-6961
Building 70
70 Thayer St
Des Moines, IA 50315
fax (515) 242-6958
Honors Unit
65 Gruber St
Des Moines, IA 50315
fax (515) 242-6672
Youthful Offender Program/Drug Court
65 Gruber St
Des Moines, IA 50315
fax (515) 242-5630
http://fifthdcs.com/DistrictMap.cfm
[ see lower left side text cut and pasted below ]
Fort Des Moines Community Corrections Complex
Building 68
Building 70
Honors Unit
Youthful Offender Program/Drug Court
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/04/28/culver-si...
Culver signs infrastructure bill that keeps sex offenders on DM’s
south side
by William Petroski April 28, 2010 [ Catch that DATE? ]
Gov. Chet Culver has signed a $273 million infrastructure
spending bill with a provision that will keep sex offenders
indefinitely at the Fort Des Moines correctional facility on the
city’s south side. <snip>
KBW > What does your claim that prisoners are housed
KBW > at museums have to do with AC's lie?
AC went after your story about how you supposedly
had a friend falsify the official court records.
Where do you stand on that story now, Kent?
Denying you said it?
Sticking to that story about a friend falsifying
official court records?
Are you claiming your fictional friend altered
no less than THREE official web sites, too?
Who supposedly actually wrote the
Iowa Supreme Court ruling, Kent?
And WHAT would the point be of faking
court records for you if YOU aren't you?
What it has in common with your
stupid Fort Des Moines deception is
that in both cases you painted yourself
into a corner and you STILL will not
admit that you lost any argument.
You won't acknowledge that Fort Des Moines
has many buildings and several of the barracks
buildings are being used for Correctional
Services. Corrections site, satellite photos,
contradict you, yet you pretend Fort
Des Moines is ONLY a museum.
Your online official records show you were
directed to "Fort Des Moines Residential
Correctional Services".
The Des Moines Register has several news
stories mentioning Fort Des Moines
Correctional Center.
Are you going to keep pretending that
there is no such Correctional Center?
Even TELEPHONE LISTINGS show
that a Correctional Center is there.
Your ""museum"" game is really lame.
I haven't even looked up how much jail
time you had to do, but somebody
else said 100 days.
Don't forget to thank Dan for all the help!
> At one time, not so long ago, Keith Thrasher
> <thrashe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:59:47 -0500, Kent Wills wrote:
>>
>>> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
>>> him from Ed Polkers.
>>
>>And your wife sucks nigger dicks so I would say you two are even.
>
> I'm one person and I'm white.
Then it must suk hard to watch your wife sukk nigger dicks.
"Somebody said..."
Now there's credible evidence.
>> http://www.myspace.com/smb20087
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Bilyeu/575782022
>
> Why are you stalking people named Sean Bilyeu, Greg?
Why is you protege on facebook, garage burglar?
>> people here who know your act here much better than myself could add
>> to the list.
>
> Yet no one has been able.
You're lying again, kentucci.
> Odd that.
You are odd squared, garage burglar.
>> Do you think Sean M Bilyeu is happy that
>> Kent said Sean's Facebook photo looked like a girl?
>
> The person to whom you link claims to be a female.
Prove that please kentucci.
> Why do you lie?
>
You're insane, kentucci.
Do you deny or just deflect?
DJS3 "Somebody said..."
DJS3 > Now there's credible evidence.
ms > Do you deny or just deflect?
Dan frequently asks for PROOF of something,
without first strongly CHALLENGING the assertion.
When the proof IS posted, Dan won't acknowledge it.
If teased, Dan says he didn't doubt it, he only
wanted to see the proof.
Dan used to be the king bully but has been
reduced to this kind of faggotry.
Torquemada Dan was just fine with asking
hostile questions of me for YEARS, with
a posse backing him up. Now he refuses
to answer similar questions of himself.
Which you rarely, if ever, provide, grag.
> without first strongly CHALLENGING the assertion.
The fact that you rarely back up your claims with PROOF, grag, is sufficient
to demonstrate your claims lack credibility.
The fact that when proof IS posted, you
refuse to acknowledge it, shows what
an ass you are.
You jumped in to defend your GOOD BUDDY Kent.
Kent pretended that he couldn't have been sent to
FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
because Fort Des Moines is a museum.
I posted LINKS to some Iowa Corrections sites
listing FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONS addresses.
I posted Des Moines Register articles
refering to the FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
I have PROVEN that Kent is full of it with his
pretense that he could not have been incarcerated at
FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
as the public court web site says.
Have YOU acknowledged my proof yet, Dan?
But you say I never provide PROOF.
You are the KING of the bull shitters, Dan.
>G > I wonder if marston shores and Arkansas Cracker
>G > are at all entertained by how you tried to pretend
>G > that you couldn't have been in the
>G > Fort Des Moines Correctional Center because
>G > part of old Fort Des Moines is a museum.
>
>KBW > What does your claim that prisoners are housed
>KBW > at museums have to do with AC's lie?
>
>AC went after your story about how you supposedly
>had a friend falsify the official court records.
>
Yet when asked to offer proof of the claim he assigned to me, he
failed.
BTW, you failed to answer the question I asked. Rather, you went
on a rant that has allowed me yet another chance to PROVE you are
psychologically UNABLE to be honest, except by accident, force or if
you believe honesty will promote a lie you've presented.
>Where do you stand on that story now, Kent?
Same place I've always stood.
Just because your details alter to fit whatever lie your
presenting at any given time, doesn't mean this is the case with
everyone.
>
>Denying you said it?
I've never claimed, directly or through implication, that I had
any federal employee(s) of any sort alter any record(s) of any sort.
I expressly DENY saying and/or writing it.
Will you now LIE and claim I've not denied it, much as you used
to regarding the phone number you LIED and claimed was/is mine?
>Sticking to that story about a friend falsifying
>official court records?
When did I make such a claim?
>
>Are you claiming your fictional friend altered
>no less than THREE official web sites, too?
>
That was YOUR claim, Greg.
I realize your life is miserable. So much so that you are
DESPERATE to be anyone other than you. However, you are stuck being
you and no amount of your claiming I made a claim you made will cause
you to suddenly become me.
This applies to your trying to present others made claims you
made.
>Who supposedly actually wrote the
>Iowa Supreme Court ruling, Kent?
>
>And WHAT would the point be of faking
>court records for you if YOU aren't you?
>
I am me. The problem is, you have NO idea who I am in real life.
Not for lack of trying, of course. However, your ability to
stalk people is limited by your extremely low intellect.
Did you happen to save the picture of Lin in her swim suit in the
snow? I didn't realize it at the time I posted it, but a really good
hint as to the town in Iowa where we live can be seen.
If you didn't think to save a copy, well, bummer. If I should
chose to post it again, I'll certainly crop it in such a way that the
hint is no longer visible.
>What it has in common with your
>stupid Fort Des Moines deception is
>that in both cases you painted yourself
>into a corner and you STILL will not
>admit that you lost any argument.
You present a claim that prisoners are housed in a museum and
claim *I* lost?
You really need to cease using and abusing illegal drugs, Greg.
>
>You won't acknowledge that Fort Des Moines
>has many buildings and several of the barracks
>buildings are being used for Correctional
>Services.
I've made no comment one way or the other, save to point out the
link you posted doesn't list any correctional buildings, in direct
contrast to your LIE that it did and does.
>Corrections site, satellite photos,
>contradict you, yet you pretend Fort
>Des Moines is ONLY a museum.
That's not the claim I made.
Care to try a different lie?
>
>Your online official records show you were
>directed to "Fort Des Moines Residential
>Correctional Services".
But you've already admitted they aren't mine. Where you lying
then, or are you lying now?
I'll post the MIDs for a few of your posts where you admitted
they aren't my records. I'll gladly waive the picture stipulation for
this, if you want.
Let me know if you want them posted.
If you prefer, you may make the tacit admission, by YOUR
standards, that you're currently lying.
>
>The Des Moines Register has several news
>stories mentioning Fort Des Moines
>Correctional Center.
>
>Are you going to keep pretending that
>there is no such Correctional Center?
Outside of your continued PROOF that you use and abuse illegal
drugs, I've never made the claim you assign to me.
>
>Even TELEPHONE LISTINGS show
>that a Correctional Center is there.
Are these the same listings you used to PROVE I live in three
different places in the U.S. all at the same time?
>
>Your ""museum"" game is really lame.
You presented prisoners are housed in a museum. When your LIE was
exposed, and it was a lie since you would have stated something to
indicate an error if it was an error, you began to alter your claim.
I seriously doubt anyone is falling for it. If anyone is,
they're keeping very quiet.
>
>I haven't even looked up how much jail
>time you had to do, but somebody
>else said 100 days.
I spent a matter of hours in jail once due to mistaken identity.
Your drug induced (unless you lied) stupor may cause you to
believe a few hours equals 100 days, but the more mentally stable
readers will not.
BTW, somebody else? Are you unable to offer the name/nym of this
phantom person?
>
>Don't forget to thank Dan for all the help!
Dan's exposing of your LIES has helped parents dealing with CPS
more than it has helped me. The more often your LIES are exposed, the
less likely any parent dealing with CPS will be conned into trusting
you.
It doesn't really matter if he is the one exposing them, or if it
is Moe, or if it is me. That you can no longer sacrifice,
metaphorically speaking, families to your precious CPS is what really
matters.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson:
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
--a true story
As of Sunday, August 15, 2010:
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE
Comments: OPA $2805.04
COPIES TO PA
VERIFICATION OF ACCOUNT
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT
Comments: JUDGMENT AGAINST GREGORY HANSON FOR $2805.04
+ INTEREST AT 7.271% FROM 8/6/98 & $45.00 COSTS.
Comments: NOTE OF GARN/NOTE TO DEFT SERV 9/24/98 BY WCSD
TO SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (ED POLKERS) FOR GREG HANSON
FEES $35.60
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
KBW > What does your claim that prisoners are housed
KBW > at museums have to do with AC's lie?
G > AC went after your story about how you supposedly
G > had a friend falsify the official court records.
KBW > Yet when asked to offer proof of
KBW > the claim he assigned to me, he failed.
Kent,
Isn't that why you use x-no-archive, Kent?
And you've selectively deleted your own old posts as well.
It's not as easy to delete echos of your posts
quoted in the responses of others, though.
> BTW, you failed to answer the question I asked. Rather, you went
> on a rant that has allowed me yet another chance to PROVE you are
> psychologically UNABLE to be honest, except by accident, force or if
> you believe honesty will promote a lie you've presented.
G > Where do you stand on that story now, Kent?
> Same place I've always stood.
> Just because your details alter to fit whatever lie your
> presenting at any given time, doesn't mean this is the case with
> everyone.
Evasion noted.
G > Denying you said it?
KBW > I've never claimed, directly or through
KBW > implication, that I had any federal
KBW > employee(s) of any sort alter any
KBW > record(s) of any sort.
"FEDERAL" was never mentioned before
in any iteration of the story.
Trying to pull a fast one, Kent?
> I expressly DENY saying and/or writing it.
> Will you now LIE and claim I've not denied it, much as you used
> to regarding the phone number you LIED and claimed was/is mine?
The one for that ""other"" Kent Bradley Wills in Rogers, Ark?
son of Alfred and Janet, user of e-mail COMPUELF?
G > Sticking to that story about a friend
G > falsifying official court records?
KBW > When did I make such a claim?
That's not a denial.
G > Are you claiming your fictional friend altered
G > no less than THREE official web sites, too?
> That was YOUR claim, Greg.
> I realize your life is miserable. So much so that you are
> DESPERATE to be anyone other than you. However, you are stuck being
> you and no amount of your claiming I made a claim you made will cause
> you to suddenly become me.
> This applies to your trying to present others made claims you
> made.
G > Who supposedly actually wrote the
G > Iowa Supreme Court ruling, Kent?
G >
G > And WHAT would the point be of faking
G > court records for you if YOU aren't you?
> I am me. The problem is, you have NO idea who I am in real life.
> Not for lack of trying, of course. However, your ability to
> stalk people is limited by your extremely low intellect.
> Did you happen to save the picture of Lin in her swim suit in the
> snow? I didn't realize it at the time I posted it, but a really good
> hint as to the town in Iowa where we live can be seen.
> If you didn't think to save a copy, well, bummer. If I should
> chose to post it again, I'll certainly crop it in such a way that the
> hint is no longer visible.
You don't have a wife.
Why do you keep trying to sell the falsehood that you do?
Is that like selling the FELON as teacher lie?
Are you using these as part of an effort to LURE
another teen into being your accomplice or worse?
> >What it has in common with your
> >stupid Fort Des Moines deception is
> >that in both cases you painted yourself
> >into a corner and you STILL will not
> >admit that you lost any argument.
> You present a claim that prisoners are housed in a museum and
> claim *I* lost?
> You really need to cease using and abusing illegal drugs, Greg.
If you're not OUR KENT, then why try this
dishonesty about what I claimed and substituting
this pretense that I said you were housed in a museum?
You've got to be an imbecile to think that
you could pull of this bluff about Fort Des
Moines being ONLY a museum, and denying
the existance of the FORT DES MOINES
RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
It's listed right in your online court records.
It's listed on the corrections web site
It's listed in Gazette newpaper online reports
> >You won't acknowledge that Fort Des Moines
> >has many buildings and several of the barracks
> >buildings are being used for Correctional
> >Services.
> I've made no comment one way or the other, save to point out the
> link you posted doesn't list any correctional buildings, in direct
> contrast to your LIE that it did and does.
> >Corrections site, satellite photos,
> >contradict you, yet you pretend Fort
> >Des Moines is ONLY a museum.
> That's not the claim I made.
> Care to try a different lie?
> >Your online official records show you were
> >directed to "Fort Des Moines Residential
> >Correctional Services".
>
> But you've already admitted they aren't mine. Where you lying
> then, or are you lying now?
> I'll post the MIDs for a few of your posts where you admitted
> they aren't my records. I'll gladly waive the picture stipulation for
> this, if you want.
> Let me know if you want them posted.
> If you prefer, you may make the tacit admission, by YOUR
> standards, that you're currently lying.
Post the MID's, you liar.
I found a way to find them in Google.
> >The Des Moines Register has several news
> >stories mentioning Fort Des Moines
> >Correctional Center.
>
> >Are you going to keep pretending that
> >there is no such Correctional Center?
> Outside of your continued PROOF that you use and abuse illegal
> drugs, I've never made the claim you assign to me.
I never claimed you were sentenced to any museum.
Your ONLINE public court records say you
were sent to Fort Des Moines Correctional Center
> >Even TELEPHONE LISTINGS show
> >that a Correctional Center is there.
>
> Are these the same listings you used to PROVE I live in three
> different places in the U.S. all at the same time?
You live in Rogers Arkansas, and the online
phonebook connects you to your COMPUELF
e-mail address, Kent.
> >Your ""museum"" game is really lame.
KBW > You presented prisoners are housed in a museum.
No, I presented Fort Des Moines Correctional Center
and links to it.
http://fifthdcs.com/addresses.cfm?location=fort
YOU twisted to pretend that I said you
were incarcerated in a MUSEUM.
Yes, you LIED!
Imagine that, Kent!
> When your LIE was
> exposed, and it was a lie since you would have stated something to
> indicate an error if it was an error, you began to alter your claim.
> I seriously doubt anyone is falling for it. If anyone is,
> they're keeping very quiet.
I think your argument is so idiotic they
don't want to be seen as "piling on" or
picking on the retarded.
> >I haven't even looked up how much jail
> >time you had to do, but somebody
> >else said 100 days.
> I spent a matter of hours in jail once due to mistaken identity.
> Your drug induced (unless you lied) stupor may cause you to
> believe a few hours equals 100 days, but the more mentally stable
> readers will not.
> BTW, somebody else? Are you unable to offer the name/nym of this
> phantom person?
> >Don't forget to thank Dan for all the help!
> Dan's exposing of your LIES has helped parents dealing with CPS
> more than it has helped me. The more often your LIES are exposed, the
> less likely any parent dealing with CPS will be conned into trusting
> you.
> It doesn't really matter if he is the one exposing them, or if it
> is Moe, or if it is me. That you can no longer sacrifice,
> metaphorically speaking, families to your precious CPS is what really
> matters.
http://fifthdcs.com/addresses.cfm?location=fort
http://fifthdcs.com/DistrictMap.cfm
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/04/28/culver-si...
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99.n710.a05.html
Newshawk: Carl Olsen
Pubdate: Wed, 7 Jul 1999
Source: Des Moines Register (IA)
Copyright: 1999, The Des Moines Register.
Contact: let...@news.dmreg.com
Website: http://www.dmregister.com/
Author: William Petroski, Register Staff Writer
STATE BOLSTERS COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
The Programs Give Offenders More Freedom And Save Iowa Money.
The Fort Des Moines correctional facility operates without guard
towers, barbed-wire fences or security dogs.
About 220 men convicted of crimes live there, in a former U.S. Army
barracks and a remodeled cavalry barn on Des Moines' south side. Most
hold jobs in the community and return to the center to sleep and
attend classes.
[Remainder snipped]
Greg's just rehashing an old Kennie Pangborn rant word about you. It
s pretty low even for him but he's so messed up mentally he'll grasp
an anything to get your attention.
But then Greg has yet to explain why Kennie Pangborn, who obsessively
posted on usenet each day for more than a decade, hasn't posted on
usenet since January.
I've never understood why a male, supposedly hetero, who ( as
straight males are wont to do) wants intimacy with a female's
genitalia would consider a slang word for the female genitalia an
insult or something of derision.
Moe
> Persons with autism may exhibit repeated body movements (hand
> flapping, rocking), unusual responses to people or attachments to
> objects and resistance to changes in routines.
> Your claim that so many people are so many other people is
> certainly unusual responses to posts.
> Your obsession with Glen (you claim it's been over 10 years)
> might fit an attachment. While Glen isn't an object, your 10 years +
> obsession with him could quality.
> Your unending obsession with Kane is nearly as bad. It hasn't
> been 10 years+, as far as I can tell, but it's still odd.
> You consistently post the same things over and over, showing a
> STRONG resistance to any change in routine.
>
> Read more:http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/article_2255.shtml#ixzz0...
>
> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson:
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
> (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
> GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
> Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
>
> Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
> -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
> April 2000, Gregory Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
> news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
>
> With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
> into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
> videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
> was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
> water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
> a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
> gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
> were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
> She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
> prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
>
> "Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
> triumphantly.
>
> --a true story
>
> As of Saturday, March 27, 2010:
Referring to what specifically, grag?
> You jumped in to defend your GOOD BUDDY Kent.
Kent is not my good buddy.
> Kent pretended that he couldn't have been sent to
> FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> because Fort Des Moines is a museum.
I believe Kent correctly pointed out there was a museum located at Des
Moines.
> I posted LINKS to some Iowa Corrections sites
> listing FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONS addresses.
>
> I posted Des Moines Register articles
> refering to the FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
>
> I have PROVEN that Kent is full of it with his
> pretense that he could not have been incarcerated at
> FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> as the public court web site says.
I didn't see you post proof that Kent was incarcerated at the FORT DES
MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER, grag.
> Have YOU acknowledged my proof yet, Dan?
I believe your "proof" was "somebody said..."
> But you say I never provide PROOF.
I said you "rarely, if ever, provide proof."
> You are the KING of the bull shitters, Dan.
And yet YOU have served time behind bars, while you haven't proved
Kent has.
Please explain, with all relevant proof, how Kent was convicted of two
felonies and a mis and never served jail time, grag.
In answer to my quoting ONLINE COURT RECORDS where
the JUDGE entered that he was sent to the
"FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER".
Taking a half truth out of context to pretend it's
not the half truth it really is, Dan?
Gonna support Kent's psychopathic reasoning, Dan?
With friends like Kent, you don't need enemies!
Please align and identify yourself as
closely with Kent Wills as possible, Dan!
> > I posted LINKS to some Iowa Corrections sites
> > listing FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONS addresses.
>
> > I posted Des Moines Register articles
> > refering to the FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
>
> > I have PROVEN that Kent is full of it with his
> > pretense that he could not have been incarcerated at
> > FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> > as the public court web site says.
DJS3 > I didn't see you post proof that Kent was
DJS3 > incarcerated at the FORT DES MOINES
DJS3 > RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER, grag.
Why ELSE do you think Kent tried this
lame pretense that FORT DES MOINES
RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
doesn't even exist?
The psychopathic argument that I said
he was incarcerated at a MUSEUM?
Dan, the ALL CAPS wording came directly from
the online public court records. Yes, I DID post this
before. Having intentional amnesia?
G > Have YOU acknowledged my proof yet, Dan?
DJS3 > I believe your "proof" was "somebody said..."
ONLINE COURT RECORDS - see below!
G > But you say I never provide PROOF.
DJS3 > I said you "rarely, if ever, provide proof."
G > You are the KING of the bull shitters, Dan.
DJS3 > And yet YOU have served time behind
DJS3 > bars, while you haven't proved Kent has.
DJS3 > Please explain, with all relevant proof,
DJS3 > how Kent was convicted of two felonies
DJS3 > and a mis and never served jail time, grag.
You want me to explain YOUR assertion?
You can read all of this for yourself
on Iowa Courts Online, why didn't you?
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
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Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
-------------------------------------
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
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AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
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$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
http://fifthdcs.com/addresses.cfm?location=fort
http://fifthdcs.com/DistrictMap.cfm
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/04/28/culver-si...
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v99.n710.a05.html
"Sent to???"
I never saw that.
> Taking a half truth out of context to pretend it's
> not the half truth it really is, Dan?
>
> Gonna support Kent's psychopathic reasoning, Dan?
>
> With friends like Kent, you don't need enemies!
>
> Please align and identify yourself as
> closely with Kent Wills as possible, Dan!
>
> > > I posted LINKS to some Iowa Corrections sites
> > > listing FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONS addresses.
>
> > > I posted Des Moines Register articles
> > > refering to the FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
>
> > > I have PROVEN that Kent is full of it with his
> > > pretense that he could not have been incarcerated at
> > > FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> > > as the public court web site says.
>
> DJS3 > I didn't see you post proof that Kent was
> DJS3 > incarcerated at the FORT DES MOINES
> DJS3 > RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER, grag.
>
> Why ELSE do you think Kent tried this
> lame pretense that FORT DES MOINES
> RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> doesn't even exist?
>
> The psychopathic argument that I said
> he was incarcerated at a MUSEUM?
I believe Kent simply pointed out that there was a museum at that
location.
> Dan, the ALL CAPS wording came directly from
> the online public court records. Yes, I DID post this
> before. Having intentional amnesia?
>
> Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
> Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
> Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
> Citation Number:
>
> Count 01
> 08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
> 12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
> 01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
> BENEFITS
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
Looks like Kent was ordered to do some community service.
> 12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
> 01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
> Count 02
> 08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
> (AGMS)
> 12/17/2003 GUILTY
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
> BENEFITS
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
> 12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
> 01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
> Count 03
> 08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.
> 6(2)
> 12/17/2003 GUILTY
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
> BENEFITS
> 01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
Looks like Kent was ordered to do some community service.
> 12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
> 01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
>
> G > Have YOU acknowledged my proof yet, Dan?
>
> DJS3 > I believe your "proof" was "somebody said..."
>
> ONLINE COURT RECORDS - see below!
>
> G > But you say I never provide PROOF.
>
> DJS3 > I said you "rarely, if ever, provide proof."
>
> G > You are the KING of the bull shitters, Dan.
>
> DJS3 > And yet YOU have served time behind
> DJS3 > bars, while you haven't proved Kent has.
>
> DJS3 > Please explain, with all relevant proof,
> DJS3 > how Kent was convicted of two felonies
> DJS3 > and a mis and never served jail time, grag.
>
> You want me to explain YOUR assertion?
You've made that claim numerous times, grag.
Have you forgotten?
> You can read all of this for yourself
> on Iowa Courts Online, why didn't you?
<<<snip grag's massive posting that doesn't prove Kent served a day in
jail>>>>
Women use similar insults about male genitalia.
It seems to be about a person so nasty
that genitalia is their sole or prominent feature.
Your're FIFTY plus years old and this is the
kind of question that a teen ager or an
Aspergers patient would present - because
of their sociopathy.
DJS3 > "Sent to???" I never saw that.
Did you read the online court records I posted, before you snipped
them?
Dumb shit.
> > Taking a half truth out of context to pretend it's
> > not the half truth it really is, Dan?
>
> > Gonna support Kent's psychopathic reasoning, Dan?
>
> > With friends like Kent, you don't need enemies!
>
> > Please align and identify yourself as
> > closely with Kent Wills as possible, Dan!
>
> > > > I posted LINKS to some Iowa Corrections sites
> > > > listing FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONS addresses.
>
> > > > I posted Des Moines Register articles
> > > > refering to the FORT DES MOINES CORRECTIONAL CENTER.
>
> > > > I have PROVEN that Kent is full of it with his
> > > > pretense that he could not have been incarcerated at
> > > > FORT DES MOINES RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
> > > > as the public court web site says.
DJS3 > I didn't see you post proof that Kent was
DJS3 > incarcerated at the FORT DES MOINES
DJS3 > RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER, grag.
G > Why ELSE do you think Kent tried this
G > lame pretense that FORT DES MOINES
G > RESIDENTIAL CORRECTIONS CENTER
G > doesn't even exist?
G >
G > The psychopathic argument that I said
G > he was incarcerated at a MUSEUM?
DJS3 > I believe Kent simply pointed out that
DJS3 > there was a museum at that location.
Nope. You are telling a lie about context.
As expected.
> > Dan, the ALL CAPS wording came directly from
> > the online public court records. Yes, I DID post this
> > before. Having intentional amnesia?
>
> > Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
> > Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
> > Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
> > Citation Number:
>
> > Count 01
> > 08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
> > 12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
> > 01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
> > 01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
> > 01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
> > BENEFITS
> > 01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
DJS3 > Looks like Kent was ordered to do some community service.
Probation at a residential correctional facility.
They manage money to pay off debts.
G > You want me to explain YOUR assertion?
DJS3 > You've made that claim numerous times, grag.
DJS3 > Have you forgotten?
G > You can read all of this for yourself
G > on Iowa Courts Online, why didn't you?
> <<<snip grag's massive posting that doesn't prove Kent served a day in
> jail>>>>
Dan snipped LONG text from official Iowa Court web site.
Then Dan will claim he never saw this or that.
As expected.
I snipped the records because there was no proof of your assertion
that Kent served any jail time, grag.
Obviously you've never been there.
Show me proof of your claim that Kent served jail time, grag.
http://www.humanrights.iowa.gov/cjjp/images/pdf/02_pub/Probationers.pdf
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES GOVERNING RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES
As was previously indicated, there are many policies and procedures
that govern the
operations of the residential facilities. It appears that many of them
emanated from DOC
to govern the behavior and handling of the OWI and Work Release
residents who are
technically under DOC control even when residing in a facility. It
also appears that a
number of these DOC policies and procedures were adopted by the
individual CBC’s to
apply to all residents within the residential facilities.
To gain a better understanding of the manner in which all of the
residential facilities
operate, it may be helpful to briefly examine the major policies and
procedures
apparently utilized by all of the CBC’s, and consequently all of the
residential facilities. A
summary of those policies and procedures follows:
9
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES GOVERNING RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES
Ø Certain documentary records are to be maintained on all residents,
e.g., a copy
of the sentencing order, information obtained about the resident at
intake,
offender assessments, major disciplinary reports, a case plan for the
rehabilitation of the offender, etc.
Ø All residents and visitors entering the facility are subject to
being searched and
having all contraband items seized at any time while on facility
property.
Ø Resident visitation is limited to certain days, hours and locations
within the facility
for security and management reasons.
-------------------------------------------------
Ø All monies received by a resident must be surrendered to the
facility staff. All
resident funds will be placed in an account maintained by the facility
for the
individual resident. The facility staff must approve all expenditures
of resident
funds. The resident is expected to make payments for the cost of
housing within
the facility, victim restitution, court ordered child support,
outstanding judgments,
the cost of certain rehabilitative evaluations and programs while a
resident of the
facility and other legal obligations.13
------------------------------------------
Ø All residents will be subject to some form of testing for the use of
illegal or
prohibited substances.
Ø All residents are expected to be engaged in gainful employment or
participating
in an educational program while at the facility.
Ø With certain limitations, all residents are allowed to participate
in religious
services.
Ø Residents have the ability to earn furlough time, that being any
temporary
release from the facility for purposes of work, treatment or other
approved
reasons.
Ø Almost all residents participate in a “level system”. This is a
system wherein the
more the resident accomplishes in terms of securing work, completing
recommended treatment programs, completing educational and/or
rehabilitative
programs, complying with the facility rules, etc., the more privileges
the resident
earns.
Ø All residents are guaranteed access to health care services
commensurate with
the needs of the resident.
Ø All resident medications are strictly controlled and secured.
Ø Periodic “head counts” of facility residents will be conducted to
assure that all
residents are present or otherwise accounted for.
Ø The formulation of a list of prohibited actions for the residents,
the violation of
which is considered a major rule violation.
Ø All residents are subject to a progressive disciplinary process,
which employs
rule violations with different levels of seriousness, and sanctions
for rule
violations with varying levels of severity. The process also includes
procedures
for a hearing to determine if in fact the resident acted contrary to
the facility rules
in the case of serious rule violations.
Ø All residents are afforded the opportunity to appeal for review any
adverse
actions taken against the resident through the disciplinary process.
Ø The formulation of specific procedures that are to be implemented
when seeking
the revocation of probation, including safeguards to protect the due
process
rights of the resident.
Ø The development of criteria and policies governing the resident’s
attendance of
funerals and bedside visits of relatives who are critically ill or who
have become
deceased, including the definition of relative as applies to these
policies.
10
<<<snip all the BS that not only doesn't contain any proof Kent was in
jail... it doesn't even mention Kent by name>>>
If you're not TRYING to look stupid, grag, you're doing a great job at
it.
It's called a residential facility and nowhere in the POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES GOVERNING RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES is the word jail used.
http://www.humanrights.iowa.gov/cjjp/images/pdf/02_pub/Probationers.pdf
And you still haven't posted proof Kent served jail time, grag.
So do guys. Is that your rationalization for parroting what a
misogynistic obese bigot used on Kent? Shouldn't you be showing
yourself to be a better person than that.
> It seems to be about a person so nasty
> that genitalia is their sole or prominent feature.
And yet Kennie Pangborn used such genitalia related references ( both
male and female) frequently, so much so that in doing so he lessened
the "offensive" impact such crudities were meant to express.
The point is you resorted to using a reference to Kent that Pangborn
made. And Pangborn was and still is a disgusting sack of crap. By
using such a cheap shot you discredited whatever you intended to say
in your post.
Not that anyone would make the mistake of thinking you were
intelligent in the first place....
>
> Your're FIFTY plus years old
I am? You sure of that?
> and this is the
> kind of question that a teen ager or an
> Aspergers patient would present - because
> of their sociopathy.
More like someone who observes the use and abuse of the language
Greg.
George Carlin had a few good routines about the " dirty words". You
want to call him a sociopath or suffering from asperger's?
I just find the subject mildy amusing, partly because the impact of
the so-called filthy words has become the last resort of people who
don't have a good vocabulary. Have you ever encountered someone whose
every forth or fifth word is some vulgarity and the context is more of
a filler than a descriptive? Like someone who punctuates whatever they
are saying with "you know?" or other repetitive words or phrases they
muddy up whatever they intend to convey with such verbal weedage.
And everyone knows the cuss words and their usual variations. How
about cussing in inventive ways? Now that would be worth noticing!
The old standbys need some refreshing.
;-D
Moe
Who REALLY started calling him Kunt Wills, Moe?
Why are you pretending Pangborn started that?
> Shouldn't you be showing
> yourself to be a better person than that.
To you??? LOL
> > It seems to be about a person so nasty
> > that genitalia is their sole or prominent feature.
> And yet Kennie Pangborn used such genitalia related references ( both
> male and female) frequently, so much so that in doing so he lessened
> the "offensive" impact such crudities were meant to express.
You ARE obsessed with Ken!
> The point is you resorted to using a reference to Kent that Pangborn
> made. And Pangborn was and still is a disgusting sack of crap. By
> using such a cheap shot you discredited whatever you intended to say
> in your post.
Obsessed much?
> Not that anyone would make the mistake of thinking you were
> intelligent in the first place....
G > Your're FIFTY plus years old
Moe > I am? You sure of that?
46
> The old standbys need some refreshing.
>
> ;-D
>
> Moe
Yes you do, young demon lady.
> And you still haven't posted proof Kent served jail time, grag.
>
Why are you defending the convict?