Why Is Boxer STILL on WW Committee?
David Feustel
has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
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feu...@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
I sent a similar observation/suggestion to D'Amato's office. No
response.
Russ
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Max Kennedy
: > I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
: > has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
: > Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
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: I sent a similar observation/suggestion to D'Amato's office. No
: response.
: Russ
Not now, was, her daughter was married to Hillary's brother when this
committee started.
Max Kennedy
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David Feustel
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: feu...@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
: > I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
: > has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
: > Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
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: I sent a similar observation/suggestion to D'Amato's office. No
: response.
: Russ
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: R. Bleakley - magsouth (rcbs...@airmail.net)
Maybe Boxer is being used as a back channel by D'Amato.
wri...@sabu.ebay.sun.com
> I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
> has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
> Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
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Larry + Jennie
>Hey guys, don't sweat it. Boxer is the most pathetic liar I think I've
>ever seen. We owe her a debt of thanks.
I disagree. George Bush is the most pathetic liar. Remember how he
said he knew nothing about Iran-contra. Mossad's tapes of him meeting
with Amiram Nir show what BS that is.
And remember he wanted to remove Saddam Hussein. Never happened,
despite immediately after the war, Iraqi military officers offered
to remove Saddam. But Bush turned down the offer. It turns out
George and Saddam were trading partners -- in chemical, biological,
nuclear and cluster bomb weapons technologies.
Now that takes the cake.
Larry
David Salvador Flores
David Feustel <feu...@netcom.com> wrote:
>I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
>has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
>Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
Yeah, especially when you consider how impartial the committe
has been up to now.
LOL
-Dave
John Q. Public
>
>I disagree. George Bush is the most pathetic liar. Remember how he
>said he knew nothing about Iran-contra. Mossad's tapes of him meeting
>with Amiram Nir show what BS that is.
>
>And remember he wanted to remove Saddam Hussein. Never happened,
>despite immediately after the war, Iraqi military officers offered
>to remove Saddam. But Bush turned down the offer. It turns out
>George and Saddam were trading partners -- in chemical, biological,
>nuclear and cluster bomb weapons technologies.
>
>Now that takes the cake.
>
>Larry
Hey Larry:
Who forged the "suicide note"?
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Prediction of the decade: "The public will never believe the
innocence of the Clintons & their loyal staff." -- author unknown
Max Kennedy
: >Hey guys, don't sweat it. Boxer is the most pathetic liar I think I've
: >ever seen. We owe her a debt of thanks.
: I disagree. George Bush is the most pathetic liar. Remember how he
: said he knew nothing about Iran-contra. Mossad's tapes of him meeting
: with Amiram Nir show what BS that is.
George Bush was pretty bad, but George Bush isn't in office right now,
because people like me kicked him out.
What's Boxer's excuse?
Max Kennedy
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JC Huntington
>lar...@interaccess.com (Larry + Jennie) wrote:
>>
> >I disagree. George Bush is the most pathetic liar. Remember how he
> >said he knew nothing about Iran-contra. Mossad's tapes of him meeting
> >with Amiram Nir show what BS that is.
> >
> >And remember he wanted to remove Saddam Hussein. Never happened,
> >despite immediately after the war, Iraqi military officers offered
> >to remove Saddam. But Bush turned down the offer. It turns out
> >George and Saddam were trading partners -- in chemical, biological,
> >nuclear and cluster bomb weapons technologies.
> >
> >Now that takes the cake.
> >
> >Larry
>Hey Larry:
>Who forged the "suicide note"?
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>Prediction of the decade: "The public will never believe the
>innocence of the Clintons & their loyal staff." -- author unknown
.... huh?
Sorry, jq, to the uninformed the "Who forged... " mantra appears non
sequitor.
John Q. Public
To the focused, the "non sequitor" is the discussion of George Bush's
character.
To those who require explanation of my frequent use of the "mantra",
defenders of the complete, overall innocence of the Clinton
administration, either by direct claim or by positing that Bush
was worse, this is a reminder that "Vince Foster's suicide note"
has been adjudged by experts to be a forgery. The implications
are very serious.
Steven Grant
>I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
>has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
>Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
One might also ask why Alfonse D'Amato, my former Senator, is still on
the Whitewater committee, given that he's one of the most corrupt sons
of bitches in Congress...
Steven Grant
Writer: DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Image, Tekno, etc.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/SDGrant
rob...@sound.net
>>I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
>>has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
>>Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
>One might also ask why Alfonse D'Amato, my former Senator, is still on
>the Whitewater committee, given that he's one of the most corrupt sons
>of bitches in Congress...
One might also ask what your claims of D'Amato's corruption have to do
with Boxer's clear conflict of interest. Is D'Amato related to the
Clintons in some way, as Boxer is?
Even granting your (unsubstantiated) premise for the sake of
discussion, it appears that you're saying four things here:
"Since D'Amato is corrupt.....
1)...Boxer's conflict of interest is acceptable."
2)...the Clintons are innocent of any wrongdoing."
3)...the Whitewater investigation is a waste of time and/or money."
4)...whatever happened in Whitewater is OK."
All are non-sequiters. This involves the same sort of "potato logic"
that the environmentalists use to "prove" (sic) their opinions. What
is potato logic? It goes like this: "Most people who are involved in
car wrecks have eaten potatoes at some point in their lives.
Therefore, eating potatoes causes car wrecks."
Just because Fact A and Fact B exist, does not necessarily mean that
there is any sort of causal relationship between them. Even if
everything that you believe about D'Amato were true, that does not
excuse the crimes that took place in Whitwater, it does not excuse the
ongoing cover-up of those crimes, and it does not excuse Boxer's lack
of integrity in refusing to recuse herself despite her blatantly
obvious conflict of interest in the matter.
{If it requires someone else's money, it's *not* a right.
{ - Thomas Sowell
Larry + Jennie
>sdg...@i-d.com (Steven Grant) wrote:
>>>I notice that Senator Boxer is still on the Whitewater Committee. Why
>>>has she not recused herself given her personal connection to the
>>>Clintons? (Boxer's daughter is now married to Hillary's brother).
>>One might also ask why Alfonse D'Amato, my former Senator, is still on
>>the Whitewater committee, given that he's one of the most corrupt sons
>>of bitches in Congress...
>One might also ask what your claims of D'Amato's corruption have to do
>with Boxer's clear conflict of interest. Is D'Amato related to the
>Clintons in some way, as Boxer is?
Guys,
I hate to tell you this, because I really wish it were otherwise, but the FIX
IS IN. All the Whitewater investigations have leaders in place to keep the
lid on the scandal. None of their investigations are on the legit. Starr has
close ties to George Bush and former Attorney General William Barr who were
both involved in the criminal transport of cocaine through Mena. It is true
that D'Amato has stayed out of jail, but he is probably open to blackmail from
many criminal U.S. National Security elements. As for Leach, I have nothing
on him. Maybe he'll do right. I don't know.
But from everything I've read, none of those three investigations has called
the right witnesses nor asked the right questions. Looks like bipartisan
cover up to me.
Larry
rob...@sound.net
>I hate to tell you this, because I really wish it were otherwise,
No you don't. What would you do with all your free time? This is
nothing but a feeble attempt to blur the line between the criminals in
the White House, and the people who are trying - within the framework
of the law - to expose them for what they are. All politicians are
*not* like the Clintons. If they were, this country would have ceased
to exist long ago.
>but the FIX IS IN. All the Whitewater investigations have leaders in
>place to keep the lid on the scandal. None of their investigations are
>on the legit. <snip> But from everything I've read, none of those three
>investigations has called the right witnesses nor asked the right
>questions. Looks like bipartisan cover up to me.
You're right! Everyone's in on it! Kissinger, Clinton, D'Amato, O.J.,
Michael Jackson, Ron Popeil, Ronald McDonald, and many of the
linebackers on the Oakland Raiders. Take a look at this message I
interecepted just the other day....
BEGIN PBP ENCODED MESSAGE:
(Pretty Bad Privacy (c) 1995, Jack-Booted Thugs, ltd.)
So the other day, Hank Kissinger and a couple of the Rockefellers were
showing me and a couple of the guys from The Company their new shiny
black helicopters with the nifty blood-red CFR logo on the side.
Took us for a quick span out over the Bermuda tri-lateral, er, I mean,
triangle.
While we were up there, we sent a few encoded faxes to our guys over
at the Fed Reserve, dropped by Area 51 to see how Glorp and Glurmp
are holding up under Earth's heavy gravity, and videoconferenced with
Berlin and Tokyo. Everything's under control; Yeltsin's in solid and
Hillary and Leon said ATF will begin the hypnosis on Bill next week.
The fluoridation plan is ready to enter stage 3, and the guys in
Colorado Springs say they'll have all the satellites in place by
February. George and Ollie said we shouldn't have any more problems
in the Mideast, with Rabin taken care of.
Just thought you guys might want a progress report. Keep up the
good work, and keep those Clipper chips warm!
Warmest conspiratorial regards,
Bob. (Not my real name.)
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rob...@sound.net (not my real address)
Marcos
-> lar...@interaccess.com (Larry + Jennie) wrote:
->
-> >I hate to tell you this, because I really wish it were otherwise,
->
-> No you don't. What would you do with all your free time? This is
-> nothing but a feeble attempt to blur the line between the criminals in
-> the White House, and the people who are trying - within the framework
-> of the law - to expose them for what they are. All politicians are
-> *not* like the Clintons. If they were, this country would have ceased
-> to exist long ago.
Yes they are. You accuse people of blurring the line when there is no line
there to blur.
->
-> >but the FIX IS IN. All the Whitewater investigations have leaders in
-> >place to keep the lid on the scandal. None of their investigations are
-> >on the legit. <snip> But from everything I've read, none of those three
-> >investigations has called the right witnesses nor asked the right
-> >questions. Looks like bipartisan cover up to me.
->
-> You're right! Everyone's in on it! Kissinger, Clinton, D'Amato, O.J.,
-> Michael Jackson, Ron Popeil, Ronald McDonald, and many of the
-> linebackers on the Oakland Raiders. Take a look at this message I
-> interecepted just the other day....
Everyone IS in on it, your fake message notwithstanding. You are trying to
make fun of it, but it is real, and it controls all your thoughts and
actions.
->
-> BEGIN PBP ENCODED MESSAGE:
-> (Pretty Bad Privacy (c) 1995, Jack-Booted Thugs, ltd.)
->
-> So the other day, Hank Kissinger and a couple of the Rockefellers were
-> showing me and a couple of the guys from The Company their new shiny
-> black helicopters with the nifty blood-red CFR logo on the side.
-> Took us for a quick span out over the Bermuda tri-lateral, er, I mean,
-> triangle.
Best way to get old Leave it to Beaver episodes without having to worry
about the local TV stations. ;)
->
-> While we were up there, we sent a few encoded faxes to our guys over
-> at the Fed Reserve, dropped by Area 51 to see how Glorp and Glurmp
-> are holding up under Earth's heavy gravity, and videoconferenced with
-> Berlin and Tokyo. Everything's under control; Yeltsin's in solid and
-> Hillary and Leon said ATF will begin the hypnosis on Bill next week.
Hey! Say hi to Glorp for Marcos!
->
-> The fluoridation plan is ready to enter stage 3, and the guys in
-> Colorado Springs say they'll have all the satellites in place by
-> February. George and Ollie said we shouldn't have any more problems
-> in the Mideast, with Rabin taken care of.
->
-> Just thought you guys might want a progress report. Keep up the
-> good work, and keep those Clipper chips warm!
Thanks!
Billy Beck
>All politicians are *not* like the Clintons. If they were, this country would
>have ceased to exist long ago.
It *did*, Robert (NotYourRealName).
Billy
http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/free/free.html
rob...@sound.net
>rob...@sound.net wrote:
>>All politicians are *not* like the Clintons. If they were, this country would
>>have ceased to exist long ago.
> It *did*, Robert (NotYourRealName).
Relax, Billy, and read some history. Every decade or so, there have
been "experts" who could "prove conclusively" that this country was
about to buy the farm. Some were liberal, some were conservative, a
few were apolitical, and all were wrong.
Each time, when someone would point out to them that such dire
predictions had been made before, the "experts" would always reply,
"Yes, but this time it's different because _____________" (fill in the
blank with the "crisis" of your choice.)
The country is fine. The Clintons are a temporary aberration. The only
real concern I have is about the liberals' success in dumbing down the
education system, as in ill-informed electorate is more easily duped.
But that situation is not beyond repair.
Having been involved in education myself for 22 years, I see two
things: 1) The inertia of the liberals' "progressive" education system
is still there, and it will take a lot of work to defeat it.
However....2) The movement toward a return to reality- and fact-based
education is stronger and has a broader base today than at any time in
the past two decades. This is an encouraging development.
Of course there are problems. Of course there is corruption at high
levels. It has never been otherwise. That doesn't mean that we should
avoid working toward solving those problems and eliminating that
corruption, but neither does it mean that the U.S.A. is dying.
If you over-react to the little things, what will you do when
something big comes along?
Bob (my real name!) :-)
Don F. Ridgway
Little" is self-appointed Net damage control person saying
not-to-worry. Which side is that?
Billy Beck
>wj...@mindspring.com (Billy Beck) wrote:
>>rob...@sound.net wrote:
>>>All politicians are *not* like the Clintons. If they were, this country would
>>>have ceased to exist long ago.
>> It *did*, Robert (NotYourRealName).
>Relax, Billy,
Don't tell me to relax, pal.
I don't know who you think you're talking to. If you would like to
know and understand who you are advising with your little pat on the
head, you are free to visit my home and examine my bookshelves for a
bit of insight. After that, we could go over my record of activism
and intellectual inquiry into the philosophical premises on which
American political culture currently stands...barely.
>...and read some history. Every decade or so, there have
>been "experts" who could "prove conclusively" that this country was
>about to buy the farm. Some were liberal, some were conservative, a
>few were apolitical, and all were wrong.
The destruction of a culture is a curious thing to observe, Bob.
I understand the phonomenon to which you refer. It's the puffed up
Chiken Little syndrome.
However, I am not talking about the United States as a political
entity. I am not portending the doom of United States nationalism,
and the sudden permeability of sovereign borders to Hordes of Huns.
I am referring to that special *spirit* of individual American
independence which has long been buried as "myth" by a preponderance
of pundits who engage "progress" with tired "who misses it, anyway?"
yawns directed at anyone who would mourn the loss. I am referring to
that special, cheerful, *power* of an American spirit...that power
which would roll up its sleeves, rather than reach for its gavel.
To the extent that it exists anywhere in America today, it is at risk
in the schools (which would not have the children learn it), it is
pursued by Mencken's "jobholders" (writs, notices, warrants, and "due
process" in hand), and it is mocked by generations of intellectuals
who never really had anything to sell out.
>The country is fine.
Right.
We're livin' it up.
>The Clintons are a temporary aberration.
I disagree.
The Clintons are perfectly consistent with systemic rot in political
culture in America. They are gleaming examples of refinement in the
principles of government as practiced here. We were bound to suffer
them...whatever their name. They are right on time, dead on course,
without the slightest deviation.
Any anxiety which they cause is merely evidence of an inability (or
refusal) to grasp, and reject, the principles which brought them to
our doorstep. Until that happens, the Clintons are merely another
boxcar on the train.
<snip>
>...The movement toward a return to reality- and fact-based
>education is stronger and has a broader base today than at any time in
>the past two decades. This is an encouraging development.
We'll see.
>If you over-react to the little things, what will you do when
>something big comes along?
I dunno, Robert.
The last time I considered that question, I scorched my answers on the
ceiling of a jail cell with a match. It's been a while, and I don't
recall what I thought.
Do you understand me, Robert?
Let me ask you:
How comfortable *are* you today? Have you ever been caught in the
jaws? Have you ever had cause to look around you and observe good
people being destroyed by power which you knew would *never* be called
to account?
Where is your threshold of outrage?
*Don't* fucking tell me to relax, mate.
Go read "Letter From Birmingham Jail" (guess who), and don't run any
bloody supercilious charades on me, or I'll beat your ass raggedy with
my awareness.
Finally: don't run away from my anger. If you have any heart, you'll
think about it.
If you run away, you're not worth saving.
Billy
http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/free/free.html
rob...@sound.net
>Let's see now: the sky is falling and Bob-My-Real-Name "Chicken
>Little" is self-appointed Net damage control person saying
>not-to-worry. Which side is that?
The side of reason.
BTW: If you're going to quote me, please do so accurately. I was
responding to someone who said that the United States of America has
"already ceased to exist."
I did not say "non-to-worry."
I said that he was wrong. As long as Clinton is in office, there are
many things to worry about. However, "this country has already ceased
to exist" is not one of them.
Wayne Mann
~drid...@ix.netcom.com(Don F. Ridgway ) wrote:
~>Let's see now: the sky is falling and Bob-My-Real-Name "Chicken
~>Little" is self-appointed Net damage control person saying
~>not-to-worry. Which side is that?
~The side of reason.
~BTW: If you're going to quote me, please do so accurately. I was
~responding to someone who said that the United States of America has
~"already ceased to exist."
~I did not say "non-to-worry."
~I said that he was wrong. As long as Clinton is in office, there are
~many things to worry about. However, "this country has already ceased
~to exist" is not one of them.
~{If it requires someone else's money, it's *not* a right.
~{ - Thomas Sowell
Bob, you mustn't confuse Don with facts!
\\/ayne //\ann