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Greegor

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:07:54 PM7/2/09
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On Jul 2, 5:57 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What actually happened to borked?

See the part marked out between ----- lines firther down.


http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:EJ9sQ4KNDvEJ:www.noreply.org/echolot/thesaurus/143.help+pseudo.borked.net&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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---------------------------------------------------------------------
This remailer is a free service that allows individuals including
crime
victims, domestic violence victims, persons in recovery, and others,
such as those living under oppressive regimes, to communicate
confidentially in a manner that ensures their privacy under even the
most adverse conditions.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

This independent remailer uses the Mixmaster remailer software. It is
highly recommended that you obtain a copy of the Mixmaster software to
utilize this remailer. This particular remailer may offer other means
of
accessing the remailer service. If this remailer offers other means of
accessing the remailer service, the means will be described later in
this help file. However, only by using the Mixmaster client software
will you assure the highest level of security against third-parties
compromising your privacy. How to obtain the Mixmaster software:

Mixmaster source code for FreeBSD, Linux, other variants of UNIX, and
Win32:

If your operating system is a UNIX derivative, simply download and
compile the client from the source code available at
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mixmaster/

Mixmaster clients binaries for Win32 (Windows 98, NT, 2000, XP)

Win32 users may wish to try Jack B. Nymble, a graphical user interface
client implementing the mixmaster protocol. Jack B. Nymble is
developed
independently of the main Mixmaster distribution. Please do not
contact
the Mixmaster development team or the Administrator of the
borked pseudo remailer with questions about this software.
You can obtain a copy of Jack B. Nymble from
http://www.skuz.net/potatoware/jbn2/

For more information about Mixmaster or to contribute to the
development
of Mixmaster, please see the following URL's:

Official Mixmaster Project Site:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mixmaster/

General Information about Remailers and Remailer "how-to" Guides:
http://www.paracrypt.com/orange/index.php

http://anon.efga.org/Remailers/

http://www.remailer.fragcity.co.uk/

Locations of some Worldwide Remailers http://riot.eu.org/anon/remap.html

****

This remailer will permit you to remail messages without using the
Mixmaster client software or PGP. This mode of operation is known to
be
insecure and should generally be used for testing purposes only. The
operator of this remailer, all system administrators of the many
machines through which your email will pass on the way to its
destination, and any 15-year-old-hacker that may have broken into any
of
the many machines through which your email will pass may be able to
determine that you are the original sender of the email.

However, you may find this insecure mode useful for testing and
debugging purposes or to just send a quick email without exposing your
real email address to spam harvesters gathering email addresses from
mailing lists. To use the insecure mode, send mail to
<rema...@pseudo.borked.net>. Place a
blank line into the first line, two colons in the second line of your
message, and the line "Anon-To: address" in the third line of your
message. Follow that with another blank line and begin your message.
For
example:

==================================================================
From: remailer_user@sender_domain.com
To: rema...@pseudo.borked.net Subject: anonymous message

::
Anon-To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com

Dear Domestic Violence List Members,
My husband has physically abused me for most of the 18 years of our
marriage.
I can't tell you how many times I had to come up with excuses as to
why I had
those bruises or that black eye. I stayed in the marriage for the
sake of
our daughter.
But recently, my husband has started to touch our 14-year-old
daughter.
I don't know what to do. I am afraid my husband will kill me if I say
something. I am even more afraid for my daughter. I have no money; my
husband controls all the bank accounts. What can I do?

Please help,
-- Desperate.
==================================================================

The remailer will remove all header lines, and forward the message to
the destination. The following e-mail would be delivered to
<final_recipient@destination_domain.com >:

==================================================================
From: borked pseudo remailer <nob...@pseudo.borked.net>
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender
address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer
software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer
administrator at <ab...@pseudo.borked.net>.
To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com

Dear Domestic Violence List Members,
My husband has physically abused me for most of the 18 years of our
marriage.
I can't tell you how many times I had to come up with excuses as to
why
I had those bruises or that black eye. I stayed in the marriage for
the sake of our daughter.
But recently, my husband has started to touch our 14-year-old
daughter.
I don't know what to do. I am afraid my husband will kill me if I say
something. I am even more afraid for my daughter. I have no money; my
husband controls all the bank accounts. What can I do?

Please help,
-- Desperate.
==================================================================

You frequently will wish to include a Subject or other header lines in
your remailed email. You can insert header lines in the remailed
message
by preceding them with a "##" line:

==================================================================
From: remailer_user@sender_domain.com
To: rema...@pseudo.borked.net

::
Anon-To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com

##
Subject: Re: Remailer Test Message
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:47:04 EST."
<199901130247.WAA02761@destiation_domain.com>

Dear Desperate,
Just like you, I was stuck in an abusive marriage for
many years. I don't need to tell you what you already know: if not for
your sake, for the sake of your daughter, you need to get away from
your
husband immediately. At the moment, you may think your husband has all
the power and that you are powerless. You are not powerless. Contact
the
National Center against Domestic Violence today and ask about the
address and phone number of a women's shelter near where you live. The
people there will show you how you can free yourself from the yoke of
brutality and protect your daughter from the worst.

Please post another anonymous email to this list if you are having any
difficulties in locating a women's shelter.

-- Broken Free
==================================================================
****

You can use PGP to encrypt messages sent to this remailer if you for
some reason are unable to use the Mixmaster client software. However,
while PGP will securely encrypt the content of a message that you are
sending to the remailer, submitting messages to the remailer that are
merely PGP encrypted without the use of the Mixmaster client software
greatly increases the risk of third parties being able to determine
the
identity of the sender (you).

This remailer primarily supports the ability to submit messages for
remailing without requiring the Mixmaster client software for
backwards
compatibility with older remailer client software.

If you are able to use the Mixmaster software with your operating
system
(chances are you can), it is highly recommended that you use the
Mixmaster client software instead. See the earlier section in this
help
file on how to obtain a copy of the Mixmaster client software.

If you cannot use the Mixmaster software, want to use an anonymous
remailer, and are willing to accept reduced security, you can do the
following:

Send email with Subject: remailer-key to <rema...@pseudo.borked.net>
to obtain
a copy of the remailer's PGP key.

Then do the following:

1) create a file containing your message
2) insert a BLANK LINE as the first line of the file
3) Insert a "::" as the second line of the file
4) Insert "Anon-To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com" as the
third line of the file.

At this time, the file should look as follows:

==================================================================

::
Anon-To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com

This is some anonymized email.
==================================================================

5) Now encrypt the file with the PGP key of this remailer.

Finally, email the encrypted file to <rema...@pseudo.borked.net> as
shown in the example below.

The line "Encrypted: PGP" instructs the remailer to decrypt the
message
and process its contents.

==================================================================
From: remailer_user@sender_domain.com
To: rema...@pseudo.borked.net
Subject: anonymous message

::
Encrypted: PGP

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: 2.6.3i

owE1jMsNwjAUBH3gZMk9PClnUoBPUANpwElW2OBPZD8H0gd1UCP2gduuNDNfIcSH
T4zCbQmtlbzGFM9T0jSD7QVvEzaPcUlBSSWHQclbnR9YWJNp5BFSLdR9CijF3NGx
ybry/1Rsqn4la3a0JiIhLvnYGCu9HFtiC8oIxnlkeuIYe+EH =HgDq
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
==================================================================

Even though PGP encryption in itself is very secure, not using the
Mixmaster client exposes some information to parties desiring to
compromise your privacy. This information leakage permits what is
known
as "traffic analysis". For example, if someone receives anonymous
messages soon after you sent encrypted messages to a remailer it is
likely that you are the sender of those messages.

To partially compensate for this information leak, you can instruct
the
remailer to delay your messages for some time or send the remailer
empty
messages to make such analysis harder:

If you use the line "Null:" instead of "Anon-To:", the remailer will
simply discard your message.

You can add a "Latent-Time:" header to the remailer to retain your
message for some time before forwarding it. "Latent-Time: +2:00"
would
delay the message for two hours. You can use a random delay by adding
"r", for example "Latent-Time: +5:00r" would delay the message for up
to
five hours. For example:

==================================================================

::
Anon-To: final_recipient@destination_domain.com
Latent-Time: +2:00

This is some anonymized email.
==================================================================


You can chain remailers by using another remailer to send the message
to
<rema...@pseudo.borked.net> anonymously. For example, take the
message

==================================================================

::
Anon-To: rema...@pseudo.borked.net

::
Encrypted: PGP

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: 2.6.3i

owE1jMsNwjAUBH3gZMk9PClnUoBPUANpwElW2OBPZD8H0gd1UCP2gduuNDNfIcSH
T4zCbQmtlbzGFM9T0jSD7QVvEzaPcUlBSSWHQclbnR9YWJNp5BFSLdR9CijF3NGx
ybry/1Rsqn4la3a0JiIhLvnYGCu9HFtiC8oIxnlkeuIYe+EH =HgDq
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
==================================================================

Next, encrypt the message with the PGP key of the borked pseudo
remailer
and send the twice-encrypted message to <rema...@pseudo.borked.net>.

Similar to a nested Russian matryoshka doll, containing increasingly
smaller dolls inside the each outer doll, you can layer multiple
encryption layers and remailer hops around your message. If this
sounds
confusing, just use the Mixmaster client software instead.

If you send your messages through a chain of several independent
remailers, it will be become increasingly difficult, though not
necessarily impossible, to trace the anonymous message back to you. A
vastly more secure solution is to use the Mixmaster client software to
send your anonymous mail.

Some remailers supporting PGP encrypted messages offer pseudonymous
"nym" service that allow you to not only send emails privately, but
also
receive emails without enabling the sender to determine your recipient
destination email address. For more information about such nym
services,
see the following URLs.

http://lexx.shinn.net/nym/

http://riot.eu.org/anon/doc/nym.html

*****

Abuse Policy:

Unfortunately, there will always be a very small percentage of
individuals that choose to abuse the anonymity that this and similar
systems worldwide afford to send otherwise unwelcome email. The
borked pseudo remailer does not condone such messages, or their
content,
in any way.

Just as the Post Office is unable to prevent abuse of the mail system
as
long as there are public mailboxes into which a person can drop a
letter
without including a return address, the borked pseudo remailer cannot
preemptively
prevent irresponsible individuals from using this system to send
inappropriate messages. However, unlike the Post Office, this remailer
enables you to assure that you will not be inconvenienced by users of
this remailer in the future.

To block the users of this remailer from sending email to your
address,
please send a message to <rema...@pseudo.borked.net>
containing the line

destination-block echolot+help.
143=1242889801=74f1...@pinger.noreply.org

anywhere in the body text of the email. You can simply reply to this
message using your email program and send back this entire message for
your current email address to be permanently blocked from users of the
borked pseudo remailer.

For additional information on this remailer's abuse policy,
instructions
on how to block more than one email address, and to reach the
borked pseudo remailer operator, please send
email to <ab...@pseudo.borked.net>.

Thank you for your interest in secure and private communications,

-- The borked pseudo remailer Administrator

krp

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Jul 3, 2009, 10:06:10 AM7/3/09
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.noreply.org/echolot/thesaurus/143.help

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---------------------------------------------------------------------
This remailer is a free service that allows individuals including crime
victims, domestic violence victims, persons in recovery, and others,
such as those living under oppressive regimes, to communicate
confidentially in a manner that ensures their privacy under even the
most adverse conditions.
---------------------------------------------------------------------


Golly only ONE of MANY claims that they and THEY ALONE save the universe.
Like faking up dozens of posts alleged from abused women to support their
BULLSHIT claims. Sometime check with a *REAL* battered women's shelter and
ASK if they allow on-line posting.

Now we are back to the (FALSE) claims of getting info in and out of
oppressed nations. When I asked before WHAT oppressed nations, came the
answer, Afghanistan (2001), Iraq, Iran, Cuba and North Korea. The claims
were and ARE "UTTER BULLSHIT!" Complete and total horse manure!


Greegor

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Jul 4, 2009, 12:49:55 AM7/4/09
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On Jul 3, 9:06 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ce6c8a21-fd0d-43eb...@n16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...http://www.noreply.org/echolot/thesaurus/143.help

I bet that in China or in any of the other countries which have
internet
that access to BORKED would be blocked and any attempt
probably leads to an arrest.

krp

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:55:08 PM7/3/09
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This message is sent to you in response to an email that you sent to
> the borked pseudo remailer.
> This automated reply was trigged by the subject "remailer-help"
> contained in your email. If you did not send such an email, please
> ignore this message.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> This remailer is a free service that allows individuals including crime
> victims, domestic violence victims, persons in recovery, and others,
> such as those living under oppressive regimes, to communicate
> confidentially in a manner that ensures their privacy under even the
> most adverse conditions.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Golly only ONE of MANY claims that they and THEY ALONE save the universe.
> Like faking up dozens of posts alleged from abused women to support their
> BULLSHIT claims. Sometime check with a *REAL* battered women's shelter and
> ASK if they allow on-line posting.
>
> Now we are back to the (FALSE) claims of getting info in and out of
> oppressed nations. When I asked before WHAT oppressed nations, came the
> answer, Afghanistan (2001), Iraq, Iran, Cuba and North Korea. The claims
> were and ARE "UTTER BULLSHIT!" Complete and total horse manure!

GH> I bet that in China or in any of the other countries which have internet
GH> that access to BORKED would be blocked and any attempt
GH> probably leads to an arrest.

The grandiose claims for these anonymous remailers is laughable. They
were claiming to be the source for information in and out of Afghanistan
under the Taliban in late 2001. They REALLY expected people to believe their
horse manure. It came at a time where not only would having a TV set or
computer result in INSTANT BEHEADING, but there was neither phone service or
electricity when the stupid claim was being made. The CLAIM to be getting
info in and out of North Korea and Cuba. Both claims are utter bullshit!
Latest has been to claim being the main conduit for the dissidents in Iran,
which is also an insane claim. But they make it anyway. So far as I can tell
the main traffic for remailers is for PEDOPHILES trading their kiddie porn
and trafficking in child sex slavery. They want to claim the moral high
ground. In short they are computer vandals and PERVERTS!


Truth Inator

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Jul 4, 2009, 5:31:14 PM7/4/09
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Who's they?

krp

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Jul 4, 2009, 7:41:42 PM7/4/09
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"Truth Inator" <truth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3giv45lp0pgnjpra8...@4ax.com...

> Who's they?

Maybe anonymous remailer operators and users???? YA THINK?

Truth Inator

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:08:13 PM7/4/09
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If you say so ... but then that means you and I.

Pack

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:19:15 AM7/5/09
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In article <WMR3m.868$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>

Flush.

krp

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Jul 5, 2009, 7:41:40 AM7/5/09
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"Truth Inator" <truth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:186055dhtdju7ssot...@4ax.com...

> If you say so ... but then that means you and I.

It means YOU and not I. I am not a REMOP, nor am I a remailer user.

Truth Inator

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Jul 5, 2009, 10:00:53 AM7/5/09
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I understand, so I am just going to quote a very smart guy who once
said:


>PROVE you are not a REMOP playing a juvenile role here!!!


You probably know who wrote that last sentence above.
Nice chatting with you. I'll move on. Good luck.

krp

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"Truth Inator" <truth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I understand, so I am just going to quote a very smart guy who once
> said:

>>PROVE you are not a REMOP playing a juvenile role here!!!

> You probably know who wrote that last sentence above.
> Nice chatting with you. I'll move on. Good luck.

BUH BYE now sweetie.

Fredric Jason Sokson

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Jul 5, 2009, 11:57:34 PM7/5/09
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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:


> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> ---- This remailer is a free service that allows individuals


> including crime victims, domestic violence victims, persons in
> recovery, and others, such as those living under oppressive
> regimes, to communicate confidentially in a manner that ensures
> their privacy under even the most adverse conditions.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
>
> Golly only ONE of MANY claims that they and THEY ALONE save the
> universe. Like faking up dozens of posts alleged from abused
> women to support their BULLSHIT claims. Sometime check with a
> *REAL* battered women's shelter and ASK if they allow on-line
> posting.

Seeing as you look to be using this as proof of your claims, I must
have missed it, where again does it say "SAVING MILLIONS OF
BATTERED WOMEN"?

> Now we are back to the (FALSE) claims of getting info in and
> out of
> oppressed nations. When I asked before WHAT oppressed nations,
> came the answer, Afghanistan (2001), Iraq, Iran, Cuba and North
> Korea. The claims were and ARE "UTTER BULLSHIT!" Complete and
> total horse manure!

This is where you slip into the lie again, Ken. Your MO is to take
a truth, such as someone saying "may be used by people in oppressed
countries", and turn it into a lie like "SAVING MILLIONS IN CUBA".
You then take that strawman to go on a rampage about how Cuba
doesn't even have Internet access. When reality meets Ken, reality
becomes a lie.

krp

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:53:23 AM7/6/09
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"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
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Oh but dear boy (or girl as the case may be) the TRUTH is contained in
the REMOP'S published CLAIM (100% FALSE) of helping battered women AND
getting info in and out of oppressed nations, and years ago when I asked for
specifics they gave me CUBA, Afghanistan , and North Korea as SOME of the
examples where these miracles were being worked. The claims were FALSE just
as more recent claims of being THE conduit for the Iranians is BULLSHIT! I
just make FUN of your stupid claims. Hyperbole is a good vehicle to deal
with such BULLSHIT! By the way I said "SAVING MILLIONS OF BATTERED WOMEN"
not millions in Cuba. I understand how you arrive at your grandiose claims.
Somebody in your LITTLE GROUP of retards mentions Cuba and all of a sudden
you clowns THINK you are freedom fighters in Cuba.

Let me again visit claims you JERKOFFS were using to answer my
complaints about harassment of people by remailer users. They included being
THE source of FREE information in and out of Afghanistan at a time the claim
was INSANE! Afghanistan at that time (late 2001) had NO phone service, NO
internet backbone, and not even any electricity, but YOU assholes were
trying to take credit for FREE SPEECH there. In spite of the Taliban edits
making possession of a TV set much less a computer being a beheading
offense. Remember the Taliban were not real big on trials. NONE of that
deterred the claims. Same with Cuba. Just total BULLSHIT claims. I shouldn't
need to get to North Korea where your idea of a thriving underground of
REMAILER USERS is too absurd to even answer. You guys makes these claims
without a drop of proof. Claims that so insult the intelligence of anyone
who THINKS that they produce anger.

In short you people have NEVER proved that remailers are REALLY used for
anything but harassment and escaping responsibility for your own actions.
The entire reason for anonymous remailers is to avoid accountability for
YOUR actions. It is a toy for LITTLE BOYS AND GYRLS.

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