Why do some names have initials?
mm
On page 3 of 22, maybe 5 screens down into this opinion,
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-678.pdf ,
it is "signed":
"541 F. 3d 1048, affirmed.
SOTOMAYOR, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,C.
J., and STEVENS, SCALIA, KENNEDY, GINSBURG, BREYER, and ALITO, JJ.,
joined, and in which THOMAS, J., joined, as to Part II�C. THOMAS,J.,
filed an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment"
How come Sotomayor, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas have their initial
listed and the others don't?
Is it that the initials they list don't match the names they are known
by? That still seems like a strange reason.
In addition -- this was true yesterday. They've fixed it today, I
guess --, while the text of the rest looks normal, the text of the
"signature" is broken up in many pieces, with line breaks even in th
emiddle of names
Cy Pres
>Why do some names have initials?
>
>On page 3 of 22, maybe 5 screens down into this opinion,
>http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-678.pdf ,
>it is "signed":
>"541 F. 3d 1048, affirmed.
>SOTOMAYOR, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,C.
>J., and STEVENS, SCALIA, KENNEDY, GINSBURG, BREYER, and ALITO, JJ.,
>joined, and in which THOMAS, J., joined, as to Part II�C. THOMAS,J.,
>filed an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment"
>
>How come Sotomayor, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas have their initial
>listed and the others don't?
That isn't their initial. The "C.J." stands for "Chief Justice, "JJ."
stands for "Justices" (plural) and refers to all the names before it,
and "J." stands for "Justice."
Bob
>Why do some names have initials?
>
>"541 F. 3d 1048, affirmed.
>SOTOMAYOR, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,C.
>J., and STEVENS, SCALIA, KENNEDY, GINSBURG, BREYER, and ALITO, JJ.,
>joined, and in which THOMAS, J., joined, as to Part II�C. THOMAS,J.,
>filed an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment"
>
>How come Sotomayor, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas have their initial
>listed and the others don't?
J stands for justice. JJ stands for justices. CJ stands for chief
justice.
Stuart A. Bronstein
> Why do some names have initials?
>
> On page 3 of 22, maybe 5 screens down into this opinion,
> http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-678.pdf ,
> it is "signed":
>
> "541 F. 3d 1048, affirmed.
> SOTOMAYOR, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which
> ROBERTS,C. J., and STEVENS, SCALIA, KENNEDY, GINSBURG, BREYER,
> and ALITO, JJ., joined, and in which THOMAS, J., joined, as to
> Part II�C. THOMAS,J., filed an opinion concurring in part and
> concurring in the judgment"
>
> How come Sotomayor, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas have their
> initial listed and the others don't?
They don't have their initials listed. "J" stands for "Justice" and
CJ stands for Chief Justice. Oh, and JJ stands for "justices"
plural. So unless you can only get on the Supreme Court if you
change your first name to Justice, those are not their initials.
Steve Bartman
>Why do some names have initials?
C.J.= Chief Justice
J.= Justice
J.J.= Justices
Steve
Mike Jacobs
> Why do some names have initials?
Um, in the example you gave from the header of a SCOTUS opinion, the
"J" and "CJ" after their names are not initials, it's an abbreviation
for their titles:
CJ = Chief Justice
J = Justice
JJ = Justices (plural)
When a list of several "Justices" is given, the abbreviation "JJ"
appears only at the _end_ of the list, not after each name. Say it
out loud in English, and it will make sense.
Didn't you notice that Justice Sotomayor's first name doesn't start
with "J" - it's "Sonia"?
And Chief Justice Roberts' first name and middle initial are "John G."
so if it was his initials it would be "JG"?
And wasn't it just a bit strange that _everybody's_ initial was "J"?
I'm just razzing you, Mike. Good question, simple but non-obvious
answer.
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mm
<mjaco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 21, 11:07 pm, mm <mm2...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> Why do some names have initials?
>Didn't you notice that Justice Sotomayor's first name doesn't start
>with "J" - it's "Sonia"?
Sure. I commented on that. "Is it that the initials they list don't
match the names they are known by? " I figured maybe her full name
was Julia Sonia Sotomayor.
>
>And Chief Justice Roberts' first name and middle initial are "John G."
>so if it was his initials it would be "JG"?
>
>And wasn't it just a bit strange that _everybody's_ initial was "J"?
Didn't notice that. And J is a very common initial. All the Hebrew
names that start with yud start with J in English, Joshua, Jacob,
Jack, Jeremy, Jeremiah, Jonathan, Joseph, John, etc. plus other names
like Julia, Julius, June, Jeffrey, etc.
>I'm just razzing you, Mike. Good question, simple but non-obvious
>answer.
It seems you are all agreed on the answer. I humbly accept it.
Believe it or not, I had at least 26 hours, maybe 48 to think about
this before I posted, and still I didn't get it. I'd like to think I
was once quicker than I am now, but maybe not.
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
As long as you are humble, others don't razz you too much.