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Claire

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Oct 17, 2007, 8:34:34 AM10/17/07
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Time for true confessions here - name a time when you did something
that is not on the list of Best Practices as a parent.

Here's one of mine - drinking a Bud out of a paper bag in the parking
lot during my daughter's trombone lesson. It was just one of those
days, and it did taste so very good.

Warm Regards,

Claire

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 17, 2007, 8:45:21 AM10/17/07
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I once yelled "No!" at my child in the store because he kept asking for a toy
that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
knock the shit out of the bully next time he pushed him. It got my kid
suspended, but he no longer has a bully problem.

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Ignoramus27577

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Oct 17, 2007, 9:01:00 AM10/17/07
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On 2007-10-17, Illiana via FamilyKB.com <u38194@uwe> wrote:
> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
> Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
> knock the shit out of the bully next time he pushed him. It got my kid
> suspended, but he no longer has a bully problem.

Just curious, how long was he suspended?

i

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 17, 2007, 12:32:00 PM10/17/07
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Ignoramus27577 wrote:
>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>> Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>> knock the shit out of the bully next time he pushed him. It got my kid
>> suspended, but he no longer has a bully problem.
>
>Just curious, how long was he suspended?
>
>i

The Vice Principal suspended him for 3 days, so I took him to a baseball game
at the staduim. I didn't feel the need to punish him, because if the school
had stepped in the first 12 times I complained, I wouldn't have had to tell
my son to take up for himself.

The bully's mom came to my house to tell me how my son was violent. I told
her if she didn't want to
find out where he get's it from she better leave my door step. I also
informed her that if she was any type of mother, she would have been here way
before my boy had to defend himself. She was only here now because my son got
the best of hers.

Banty

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Oct 17, 2007, 1:16:05 PM10/17/07
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In article <79d5574a04726@uwe>, Illiana via FamilyKB.com says...

>
>Ignoramus27577 wrote:
>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>> Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>>> knock the shit out of the bully next time he pushed him. It got my kid
>>> suspended, but he no longer has a bully problem.
>>
>>Just curious, how long was he suspended?
>>
>>i
>
>The Vice Principal suspended him for 3 days, so I took him to a baseball game
>at the staduim. I didn't feel the need to punish him, because if the school
>had stepped in the first 12 times I complained, I wouldn't have had to tell
>my son to take up for himself.
>
>The bully's mom came to my house to tell me how my son was violent. I told
>her if she didn't want to
>find out where he get's it from she better leave my door step.

Y'Hellloooo!? I was inclined to be 'on your side' (as my son went through this,
to a lesser extent, including a day's suspension) until I saw this. That's
called - a threat. What bullies do. What well grounded adults - don't do.

I don't care if it's an insult. "Consider the source", as they say. You don't
respond with a threat. Sticks and stones.

>I also
>informed her that if she was any type of mother, she would have been here way
>before my boy had to defend himself. She was only here now because my son got
>the best of hers.
>

My experience is also that most usually the apple hasn't fallen far from the
tree, and the only feasible approach is to teach kids how to deal with bullying,
including, as necessary, and only as necessary, physical action, taking the
school actions as a cost of the business, so to speak.

But, as an adult, you should have the maturity to deal with it without that sort
of thing, partly because you have the *options* at hand not to have to do that
sort of thing (you could have simply excused said mom from your property, for
example), and access to the force of the law if needed as a last resort.

But to threaten and become a bully yourself? That dog don't hunt. Makes me
wonder what your son *has* learned from you, and what the real story really is.

Banty

enigma

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Oct 17, 2007, 6:52:31 PM10/17/07
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Claire <cpet...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1192586593.5...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Bud? tasted good? it must have been a very hot day & a very
cold Bud, because Bud is pretty tasteless "beer".
anyway, other than hiding the beer in a bag (i'd hide Bud fer
sure!), why is this a 'bad parenting moment"? aren't parents
allowed a drink of beer?
puzzled
lee

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 7:30:24 AM10/18/07
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Banty wrote:
>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>> Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]

>>her if she didn't want to
>>find out where he get's it from she better leave my door step.
>
>Y'Hellloooo!? I was inclined to be 'on your side' (as my son went through this,
>to a lesser extent, including a day's suspension) until I saw this. That's
>called - a threat. What bullies do. What well grounded adults - don't do.
>
>I don't care if it's an insult. "Consider the source", as they say. You don't
>respond with a threat. Sticks and stones.
>
>>I also
>>informed her that if she was any type of mother, she would have been here way
>>before my boy had to defend himself. She was only here now because my son got
>>the best of hers.
>
>My experience is also that most usually the apple hasn't fallen far from the
>tree, and the only feasible approach is to teach kids how to deal with bullying,
>including, as necessary, and only as necessary, physical action, taking the
>school actions as a cost of the business, so to speak.
>
>But, as an adult, you should have the maturity to deal with it without that sort
>of thing, partly because you have the *options* at hand not to have to do that
>sort of thing (you could have simply excused said mom from your property, for
>example), and access to the force of the law if needed as a last resort.
>
>But to threaten and become a bully yourself? That dog don't hunt. Makes me
>wonder what your son *has* learned from you, and what the real story really is.
>
>Banty
She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
crazy hag, who can't or won't controll her son who is twice your sons size
stand there and tell you you are wrong for letting your kid defend himself,
that's on you.

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Banty

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Oct 18, 2007, 9:20:47 AM10/18/07
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In article <79df47bbeb333@uwe>, Illiana via FamilyKB.com says...

'On me' exactly how? Not to be a tough guy (or tough chickie)?? Where would
being a tough chick get me?? Other than to be a really bad example to my boy as
to how to handle things, and a fact of my having threatened a person with
physical harm should things ever get to the point of someone going to the law?

So WHAT if some crazy hag comes yelling at me stupidly?? If necessary, I can
call the law to help evict her from my property. I needn't lift a finger - her
standing there being a crazy person for all to see is plenty enough
entertainment. Sticks and stones. All I need to do is firmly tell her we won't
put up with it.

In case you missed my message, what's 'on you' is that clearly you're inclined
to threaten and bully yourself, which tells me something about how most likely
*your* apples haven't fallen far from the tree.

Banty

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:28:04 AM10/18/07
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Banty wrote:
>>>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>>>>Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]

>>stand there and tell you you are wrong for letting your kid defend himself,
>>that's on you.
>
>'On me' exactly how? Not to be a tough guy (or tough chickie)?? Where would
>being a tough chick get me?? Other than to be a really bad example to my boy as
>to how to handle things, and a fact of my having threatened a person with
>physical harm should things ever get to the point of someone going to the law?
>
>So WHAT if some crazy hag comes yelling at me stupidly?? If necessary, I can
>call the law to help evict her from my property. I needn't lift a finger - her
>standing there being a crazy person for all to see is plenty enough
>entertainment. Sticks and stones. All I need to do is firmly tell her we won't
>put up with it.
>
>In case you missed my message, what's 'on you' is that clearly you're inclined
>to threaten and bully yourself, which tells me something about how most likely
>*your* apples haven't fallen far from the tree.
>
>Banty
What ever you say, but you weren't there. That whore came to my house, and
thought she was going to intimidate me like she does the other parents. I
don't think so.
You don't know, so I will excuse your ignorance on this matter.
This is what it is right here:
This woman has no control of her fat-assed bully of a son. I am not the only
parent that has complained about this kid. I had made several attempts to
call this woman and resolve the situation in a civil manner. When I was able
to get her on the phone, she was just nasty, and called me names, threatened
me, and also said "It's not my problem you didn't teach your kid how to
defend hisself! Don't call me again!"
And I didn't, but I did tell my son to knock the hell out of him, and he did.
Only then did that bitch come to my house, in an attempt to intimidate me.
She just wasn't expecting me to be ready to stand off with her.
So, unless you know this woman, you have no idea.
My son =8years 4ft 65lbs
Bully= 12 close to 5ft 130lbs

So, say what you want to say, I don't care. I do know that Brendon is going
to keep his hands to himself, and his mom is not going to come to my house
again unless she comes correct. Deal with it!

Nan

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:29:54 AM10/18/07
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:30:24 GMT, "Illiana via FamilyKB.com"
<u38194@uwe> wrote:

>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>crazy hag, who can't or won't controll her son who is twice your sons size
>stand there and tell you you are wrong for letting your kid defend himself,
>that's on you.

Why is her opinion of you so important that you'd make threats?

Nan

Banty

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:35:10 AM10/18/07
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In article <79e15ae34b687@uwe>, Illiana via FamilyKB.com says...

Hmmm...this seems to be your usual manner of behavior.

Apple, tree, hello.

Banty

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:41:34 AM10/18/07
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Nan wrote:
>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>>crazy hag, who can't or won't controll her son who is twice your sons size
>>stand there and tell you you are wrong for letting your kid defend himself,
>>that's on you.
>
>Why is her opinion of you so important that you'd make threats?
>
>Nan
Who did I threaten?

Nan

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:44:15 AM10/18/07
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:41:34 GMT, "Illiana via FamilyKB.com"
<u38194@uwe> wrote:

>Nan wrote:
>>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>>>crazy hag, who can't or won't controll her son who is twice your sons size
>>>stand there and tell you you are wrong for letting your kid defend himself,
>>>that's on you.
>>
>>Why is her opinion of you so important that you'd make threats?
>>
>>Nan
>Who did I threaten?

The mother, according to your own words.

I'm wondering why, if she's a "crazy hag" according to you, that you'd
even care about her opinion of you.

Nan

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:47:04 AM10/18/07
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Banty wrote:
>>>>>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>>>>>>Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]

>>to keep his hands to himself, and his mom is not going to come to my house
>>again unless she comes correct. Deal with it!
>
>Hmmm...this seems to be your usual manner of behavior.
>
>Apple, tree, hello.
>
>Banty
Any parent that doesn't get fired up when thier kid comes home beat up has
got a problem. You have got a problem, Banty. I am a good mother who happens
to love her son, but am not going to let some woman bully me. Love me or hate
me, that's on you.
Do you tell your son to go in a corner and cry when a bully picks on him? If
so, you're a bad mother who is setting you son up to be walked on, and beat
down his whole life. But to each his own.

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:58:04 AM10/18/07
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Nan wrote:
>>>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]

>>>Nan
>>Who did I threaten?
>
>The mother, according to your own words.
>
>I'm wondering why, if she's a "crazy hag" according to you, that you'd
>even care about her opinion of you.
>
>Nan
Because she was at my doorstep and in my face. She poked me in my shoulder.
If I were less of a person I may have poked her back. She just thought I was
going to be scared and back down, but I didn't.
She didn't have a problem when her kid was picking on my kid until my kid
fought back. I guess she though she was going to bully me, but that didn't
happen.

Kiesha weighs like 300lbs, and is big as all hell. I weigh 145lbs, and I'm
little. She thought she was going to bully me. Sorry it didn't go that way.
Would you rather she pushed me around, and I cower before her?

Rosalie B.

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:11:05 PM10/18/07
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"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" <u38194@uwe> wrote:

>Banty wrote:
>>>>>>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>>>>>>>Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>>[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>>>to keep his hands to himself, and his mom is not going to come to my house
>>>again unless she comes correct. Deal with it!
>>
>>Hmmm...this seems to be your usual manner of behavior.
>>
>>Apple, tree, hello.
>>
>>Banty
>Any parent that doesn't get fired up when thier kid comes home beat up has
>got a problem. You have got a problem, Banty. I am a good mother who happens
>to love her son, but am not going to let some woman bully me. Love me or hate
>me, that's on you.

It is perfectly possible for a mother to stand up to a bully and not
let herself or her son be bullied. She even get 'fired up' without
making threats against the mom. The fact that you cannot see this and
in fact reject the whole proposition does NOT make you a good mother.
It makes you a person that I would not want to have as a neighbor and
your son is probably not one that I would want to have in school with
my child.

Because of your own words here (which is all I have to go on), I
believe that your son was originally the one that was at fault - I
don't think he was being bullied at all, and probably the reason that
the school didn't take any action was because no action was justified.

>Do you tell your son to go in a corner and cry when a bully picks on him? If
>so, you're a bad mother who is setting you son up to be walked on, and beat
>down his whole life. But to each his own.

You are setting up a false dichotomy. It is NOT the case that either
the child fights or goes off in the corner and cries - doomed to a
whole life as a doormat.

I know Banty doesn't tell her son to go into a corner and cry - she
has personal experience with bullies and knows the various ways that
one can deal with them. The only person I can envision telling a
child something like that would be an overbearing and controlling
father in a dismissive bullying way - implying that his son was weak.

My son was suspended once for fighting, but in his case it wasn't
because of a bully. His teacher told me about it. There was a boy in
his class (this was in HS) who had a physical defect. This boy
thought my son was laughing and making fun of him, when in fact my son
was completely unaware of this other boy who was sitting in back of
him. As they left the classroom to change classes, the other boy said
something to my son in anger, and finished up with "If you want to
fight put down your books" My son, not understanding where all this
was coming from, but hearing "put down your books", put his books
down, at which point the other boy cold cocked him. What I told him
was - "you shouldn't have put your books down".


Nan

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:21:14 PM10/18/07
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:58:04 GMT, "Illiana via FamilyKB.com"
<u38194@uwe> wrote:

>Nan wrote:
>>>>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>>>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>>Nan
>>>Who did I threaten?
>>
>>The mother, according to your own words.
>>
>>I'm wondering why, if she's a "crazy hag" according to you, that you'd
>>even care about her opinion of you.
>>
>>Nan
>Because she was at my doorstep and in my face.

So?

> She poked me in my shoulder.

So?

>If I were less of a person I may have poked her back.

So you lowered yourself to her level anyway, by threatening her.

> She just thought I was
>going to be scared and back down, but I didn't.

I don't think either Banty or I am advocating that you back down to a
bully. But, you behaved badly. Just as badly as her and her son and
now you're vehemently defending your bad behavior, and becoming
insulting to us in the process.

>She didn't have a problem when her kid was picking on my kid until my kid
>fought back. I guess she though she was going to bully me, but that didn't
>happen.

So she's an idiot.

>Kiesha weighs like 300lbs, and is big as all hell. I weigh 145lbs, and I'm
>little. She thought she was going to bully me.

Yeah, that's what you keep saying.

> Sorry it didn't go that way.
>Would you rather she pushed me around, and I cower before her?

Actually, my opinion is that you handled it badly. After all, that is
the title of this thread. So you posted to a 'naughty mom behavior'
thread which shows me that you believe it was bad. But you've been
defending your actions.

A better reaction on your part would have been to shut the door in
Kiesha's face. If she wouldn't leave, call the police.

But it's difficult for anyone to believe you try to handle things in a
civil manner when your cursing and insulting in this thread are so
evident.

Look, I'm not criticizing your choice to tell your son to defend
himself. I did much the same with my son when he had his own bully
issue and the school didn't take action to help. But you didn't
exactly teach your child a good lesson when you threatened the bully's
mom, either.

Nan

Banty

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:23:58 PM10/18/07
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In article <79e1853b713a5@uwe>, Illiana via FamilyKB.com says...

False dilemma. If you'd read, you'll see that I (and truth be told, even the
school authorities, although they needed to levy the day's out of school
suspension) tacitly allowed my son to take care of a bully problem physically,
as there was no other way for a kid. And he's a black belt in marial arts, now,
too. And, depending on the particulars, there are many other other ways to
handle things, too.

See the problem isn't that - the *problem* is your attitude about how to deal
with the bully-boy's mom. If you showed even one iota of what you're showing us
here, to the school when you were trying to handle it with them, I can see how
things weren't being solved to your satisfaction. Given that the younger boy's
mom was behaving more like a guest on the Rickie Lake show than a civilized
human being raising a civilized son, I can bet that they figured (knew?) that
this was a two-to-tango situation.

This tough-chickie strut-and-threat stuff leads you nowhere. Not in parenting,
not on Usenet, not in life.

Banty

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:34:27 PM10/18/07
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Nan wrote:
>>>>>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>>>>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
My son wasn't there, he was out with my mum. Everybody looses their temper at
oe point in time, and that happened to be my time.
What is insulting is for somebody who doesn't even know to say I am a bad mom!

If you would have done it different, kudos to you. You have no right to judge,
nor did you bother to tell how you have been naughty, so again, you have no
right to judge.

Ignoramus1624

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:40:49 PM10/18/07
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Iliana, you behaved quite correctly and solved the problem
effectively.

Congratulations to you and your son.

Make sure to monitor his behaviour and to prevent him from becoming a
bully.

Sometimes, violence is necessary and commendable.


i

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:41:20 PM10/18/07
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Rosalie B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>>>>>>>>Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
My son is not the problem! The kids in the GT class get picked on a lot, and
my son is not one to look for trouble, so don't even go there. You don't know,
and as far as you not wanting me for a neighbor, I don't care. I do know that
your son would not be in my son's class unless he in in a GT program, so you
have nothiung to worry about.
My son walks hom, Brendon was there to bully him, and a number of other kids.
You think I did the wrong thing by telling him to stand up for himself, well,
My kid is the only one the he STOPPED messing with. We called the police, but
aparently, I can't press charges against a minor, and the school didn't do
anything about it. So you, and your judgement.... I think you know where you
can stick it!

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Nan

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:47:50 PM10/18/07
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So you don't think your son knows how you acted?

Yeah, everyone looses their temper. But you're defending your action.



>What is insulting is for somebody who doesn't even know to say I am a bad mom!

I haven't read all the posts carefully, so I haven't seen anyone say
that about you. I have seen you say it, though.

>If you would have done it different, kudos to you. You have no right to judge,

Actually, you asked me for my opinion. I gave it to you.

>nor did you bother to tell how you have been naughty, so again, you have no
>right to judge.

Participation in the original post isn't necessary in order to respond
to someone else.

I guess I could say I've yelled at my kids on occasion. Feel better
now?

Nan

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 12:52:20 PM10/18/07
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Thank you.
We talk all the time, and he knows what it feels like to be bullied, and he
told me, "Mom, I would never want to make a kid feel the way Brendon made me
feel."
He knows not to pick a fight, but he knows that he has to stand up for
himself.
When he asked me what he should do when Brendon beats up on the other kids he
walks home with, I told him to tell a grown up.
Maybe if the other kids parents told them to stand up for them selves,
Brendon would find another pass time event.

Illiana via FamilyKB.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 1:36:13 PM10/18/07
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Nan wrote:
>>>>>>>>She should have been an adult and not come to my house AFTER her kid got what
>>>>>>>>he was dishing out. If you are the type of person to stand by while some
>[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]

>>My son wasn't there, he was out with my mum. Everybody looses their temper at
>>oe point in time, and that happened to be my time.
>
>So you don't think your son knows how you acted?
>
>Yeah, everyone looses their temper. But you're defending your action.
>
>>What is insulting is for somebody who doesn't even know to say I am a bad mom!
>
>I haven't read all the posts carefully, so I haven't seen anyone say
>that about you. I have seen you say it, though.
>
>>If you would have done it different, kudos to you. You have no right to judge,
>
>Actually, you asked me for my opinion. I gave it to you.
>
>>nor did you bother to tell how you have been naughty, so again, you have no
>>right to judge.
>
>Participation in the original post isn't necessary in order to respond
>to someone else.
>
>I guess I could say I've yelled at my kids on occasion. Feel better
>now?
>
>Nan
What ever.... When a Kiesha comes to your door, go and call the Police. Don't
be surprised if there is damage done to your properity. If you let people
think they can screw with you, they WILL screw with you. That is the cold
hard truth of the world we live in.

Nan

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Oct 18, 2007, 1:54:04 PM10/18/07
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:36:13 GMT, "Illiana via FamilyKB.com"
<u38194@uwe> wrote:

>What ever.... When a Kiesha comes to your door, go and call the Police. Don't
>be surprised if there is damage done to your properity. If you let people
>think they can screw with you, they WILL screw with you. That is the cold
>hard truth of the world we live in.

So why is violence the ONLY way to handle the Keisha's of the world?

Nan

Ericka Kammerer

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Oct 18, 2007, 2:03:39 PM10/18/07
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Illiana via FamilyKB.com wrote:
> Banty wrote:
>>>>>>>>> that I told him he could not have. It was so loud that I scared myself.
>>>>>>>>> Another time a bully was picking on my child, and I told him to haul off an
>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>>> to keep his hands to himself, and his mom is not going to come to my house
>>> again unless she comes correct. Deal with it!
>> Hmmm...this seems to be your usual manner of behavior.
>>
>> Apple, tree, hello.
>>
>> Banty
> Any parent that doesn't get fired up when thier kid comes home beat up has
> got a problem.

Anyone who reacts to violence and name-calling with more
violence and name-calling has a problem in my book.

> You have got a problem, Banty. I am a good mother who happens
> to love her son, but am not going to let some woman bully me. Love me or hate
> me, that's on you.
> Do you tell your son to go in a corner and cry when a bully picks on him? If
> so, you're a bad mother who is setting you son up to be walked on, and beat
> down his whole life. But to each his own.

There's a *whole* lot of territory in between being
a doormat and being violent, threatening and verbally abusive.
Even my grandmother knew that two wrongs don't make a right.

Best wishes,
Ericka

Govern...@aol.com

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Oct 18, 2007, 4:44:35 PM10/18/07
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On Oct 17, 8:34 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Time for true confessions here - name a time when you did something
> that is not on the list of Best Practices as a parent.
>
> Here's one of mine - drinking a Bud out of a paper bag in the parking
> lot during my daughter's trombone lesson. It was just one of those
> days, and it did taste so very good.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire

That's terrible. I have pictures of Whino in the park in my head
right now. Not trying to judge but that is the picture I'm getting.
Did anyone see you. If they did they must have thought you had a
serious drinking problem.

GovernessJoy
http://123kidsoftheworld.blogspot.com

enigma

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Oct 18, 2007, 6:07:18 PM10/18/07
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"Govern...@aol.com" <Govern...@aol.com> wrote in
news:1192649308.5...@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> On Oct 17, 8:34 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Time for true confessions here - name a time when you did
>> something that is not on the list of Best Practices as a
>> parent.
>> Here's one of mine - drinking a Bud out of a paper bag in
>> the parking lot during my daughter's trombone lesson. It
>> was just one of those days, and it did taste so very good.

> That's terrible. I have pictures of Whino in the park in


> my head right now. Not trying to judge but that is the
> picture I'm getting. Did anyone see you. If they did they
> must have thought you had a serious drinking problem.

would you be meaning 'wino', one who drinks an excess of
wine? or did you mean someone who whines too much? maybe the
OP has a kid like that, so she needs that mid-day beer...
if i saw a soccer mom drinking from a paper bag, i wouldn't
assume she had a drinking problem. i wouldn't even assume that
the contents of the bag were alcoholic. there are parents who
don't want their kids to drink sodapop that do the same thing,
hiding that illicit Pepsi in the bag ;)
lee

Barbara

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Oct 18, 2007, 6:54:35 PM10/18/07
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On Oct 18, 6:07 pm, enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote:

Someone tried that line on my once before ... and I didn't buy it
then, either. Many years ago, at Logan Airport, I refused to get into
a cab with a driver who was consuming a beverage out of a paper bag
and wouldn't show it to me. The dispatcher assured me it was soda or
water, and wouldn't let me take the next cab back. Yeah. Right.

I assumed that Claire's point was that she was going to drive
immediately after finishing the beer, which -- even assuming no
impairment at all on her part (which, of course, I do) -- might not be
the best thing to model for her child.

But hey, show me the person who hasn't done something less than
perfect in front of their kids, and I'll show you a childless person.

Barbara

Caledonia

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Oct 18, 2007, 11:19:21 PM10/18/07
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On Oct 18, 6:07 pm, enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote:

I frankly like the image of Whino park -- a bunch of people standing
around saying, "can you belieeeeeve the cost of filling up the Hummer?
Gas prices have just -- Got -- To -- Stop rising. It's not faaaaair,"
"I went to buy it, but they were all oooooout.," and "I don't waaaaant
to hear about tax increases for child health care -- it's mmmmy money,
and they should just stay healthy."

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Caledonia

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Oct 23, 2007, 9:37:38 AM10/23/07
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enigma wrote:
>>> Time for true confessions here - name a time when you did
>>> something that is not on the list of Best Practices as a
>>> parent.
>>> Here's one of mine - drinking a Bud out of a paper bag in
>>> the parking lot during my daughter's trombone lesson. It
>>> was just one of those days, and it did taste so very good.
>
>> That's terrible. I have pictures of Whino in the park in
>> my head right now. Not trying to judge but that is the
>> picture I'm getting. Did anyone see you. If they did they
>> must have thought you had a serious drinking problem.
>
> would you be meaning 'wino', one who drinks an excess of
>wine? or did you mean someone who whines too much? maybe the
>OP has a kid like that, so she needs that mid-day beer...
> if i saw a soccer mom drinking from a paper bag, i wouldn't
>assume she had a drinking problem. i wouldn't even assume that
>the contents of the bag were alcoholic. there are parents who
>don't want their kids to drink sodapop that do the same thing,
>hiding that illicit Pepsi in the bag ;)
>lee
Some of these chicks may explode from being soo perfect. All parents make
mistakes, need a break, bully a bully, and a list of other things.
If you haven't done anything wrong as a parent you may not be human. Mistakes,
emotion, and needing a break is just the begining of being a human being,
and a parent.
If those judging have made no mistakes, they should not judge others for
being human beings, but instead look at themselves.
Would they shatter like spidered glass should something in their perfect
universe go awry?

Ann Porter

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Nov 12, 2007, 6:34:05 PM11/12/07
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"Claire" <cpet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1192586593.5...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> Time for true confessions here - name a time when you did something
> that is not on the list of Best Practices as a parent.
>
> Here's one of mine - drinking a Bud out of a paper bag in the parking
> lot during my daughter's trombone lesson. It was just one of those
> days, and it did taste so very good.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire
>

I live in SE Louisiana, and down here the only problem with that story is
the "hide it in a paper bag" part. Public beer drinking is pretty common
down here.

When my daughter went into Jr. High, she was being intimidated by a bully
(another girl). Threatening to beat her up, etc. I told her to call the
bully on it. "Fine, get off at my bus stop and we'll settle this right
now."

Gulp. Very stupid of me. Fortunately, it worked, and the bully backed off.
They became friends, even.

--
Where we are weak, harshness and fear will not make us strong;
where we are strong, gentleness and forebearance will not make us weak. --
Jamie

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