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  Subject: Re: A sad birthday...and Dr. Hollands' 'logical medical
thought'...

  Dear Todd,

  Thank you for this interesting information. In terms of cord blood
collection we do not advocate either early or late clamping, simply normal
practice.

  Regards,

  Peter

  Dr Peter Hollands PhD, CSci, FIBMS
  Scientific Director
  Cells for Life Ltd & Victoria Angel Registry of Hope
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Todd Gastaldo
    To: pet...@cellsforlife.com
    Cc: chiro-l...@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:04 PM
    Subject: A sad birthday...and Dr. Hollands' 'logical medical thought'...

    A SAD BIRTHDAY...AND DR. HOLLAND'S "LOGICAL MEDICAL THOUGHT"...

    For the sad birthday, see below.

    TIPS FOR PREGNANT WOMEN:  Dr. Hollands' 'logical medical thought'
(immediate cord clamping so neonatologists can resuscitate) is NOT logical
according to George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG, i.e.,

    OB or CNMwives should not clamp your baby's cord until it has stopped
pulsating and your baby is pink and breathing and not in need of
resuscitation.

    Also, do not let the OB or CNMwife place you dorsal or semisitting as
you push your baby out - unless you want your birth canal closed up to 30%.
It's easy to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%. See the
URL in the postscript.

    Talk to your OB or CNMwife about these matters BEFORE your birth.

    PETER HOLLANDS, PhD (Cells for Life, Ltd), please rethink your "logical
medical thought."

    See below.

    THE SAD BIRTHDAY...

    Kelly Moscarello wrote to me on Jan. 16, 2005:

    "Today is [little Bella's] 2nd birthday.  No presents or party as she
cannot open up any presents and she will vomit at the sight of cake.  Maybe
next year. :)   I hope...My friend...who I met in Fort Lauderdale Florida,
had a severely brain injured child too.  Her name was Lief.  She died on
Thursday nite.  She was born August 26th, and was comatose, vent-dependent,
tube-fed, etc, etc.  She died without ever once having opened her eyes to
look at her mom.  So sad."

    OPEN LETTER

    Kelly Moscarello

    Kelly,

    Thank you for calling my attention back to immediate cord clamping after
Donna Young first called my attention to it...

    I will try to always mention your little Bella whenever I write about
immediate cord clamping.

    I was really hoping that the idea of hospitals paying for oxygen for
brain-injured babies (HBOT) would catch on given that hospitals are blithely
DENYING babies oxygen at birth.

    With hospitals STILL asphyxiating babies routinely, who knows the idea
still might catch on - it could even catch on after hospitals stop
asphyxiating babies at birth.

    ASPHYXIATION OF BABIES

    Some readers of this Open Letter may not yet be aware that
birth-canal-closing (see the postscript) and immediate cord clamping are
BOTH terrible asphyxiations.

    WORSE...

    Immediate cord clamping robs babies of significant numbers of STEM CELLS
thought to be able to repair brain tissue...

    Peter Hollands, PhD (Cells for Life, Ltd) writes:

    "If there were damaged areas of brain...then stem cells could
potentially
    repair these lesions."
    http://www.cord-blood.org/id15.htm (Can stem cells cure Epilepsy?)

    Bizarrely, Peter Hollands, PhD (Cells for Life, Ltd) writes:

    "This concept of not clamping until the cord stops pulsating has no
basis in logical medical thought...[B]abies with medical problems at
delivery...[should have their cords] clamped immediately so [they] can be
attended to by neonatal paediatricians..."
    http://www.cord-blood.org/id15.htm (Click on "Share your learnings" then
on
    "I don't recommend cord blood banking" <---Note:  Someone else wrote
this.  Peter RECOMMENDS blood banking - and so do I - but whereas I say we
should never immediately clamp cords - Peter is in favor of immediate
clamping "babies with medical problems.")

    (Kelly, thanks for calling my attention to some of these quotes from
Peter Hollands, PhD.)

    PETER...

    WHAT ABOUT BABIES WITH **BRAIN DAMAGE** MEDICAL PROBLEMS AT DELIVERY?

    What if stem cells DO repair brain lesions?

    What if little Bella's cerebral palsy would have been LESS - perhaps FAR
less - had the paramedic not aped MDs in immediately clamping little Bella's
cord - cutting off her access to her placental stem cells?

    We can't know - but we can WONDER whether little Bella would have used
more stem cells to repair her brain...

    Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB, FACOG attacks your
"logical medical thought."

    According to Dr. Morley, immediate cord clamping creates "asphyxiated,
hypovolemic" babies - perhaps causing some cases of AUTISM and CEREBRAL
PALSY, as in,
    "ACOG's routine treatment (B138) of these depressed neonates is
immediate
    cord clamping to obtain cord blood pH studies. The child's only
    functioning source of oxygen - the placenta - is amputated together with
30%
    to 50+% of its natural blood volume. Total asphyxia is imposed until the
    lungs function...[as]...the depressed (asphyxiated, hypovolemic) child
starts its
    extra-uterine life in hypovolemic shock...

    "B138 was first published in 1993. Every cesarean section baby, every
    depressed child, every premie, and every child born with a neonatal team
in
    the delivery room has its cord clamped immediately to facilitate the
    panicked rush to the resuscitation table. The current epidemic of
immediate
    cord clamping coincides with an epidemic of autism.

    "For the trial lawyers, it is essential that the 'true genesis' of
cerebral
    palsy remains unknown, because that 'true genesis' (B.138) is a standard
of
    medico-legal care..."
    http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm

    Peter Hollands, PhD once wrote:

    "It is well known that it is often difficult to obtain sufficient
    cells for a transplant from an umbilical cord blood sample."
    http://www.myelinresearch.com/2002_08_01_archive.html
    http://www.ivf.net/artman/publish/article_89.shtml

    It only "logical" to immediately clamp cords if one is trying to "obtain
sufficient cells for a transplant."

    (There are truly logical occasions to immediately clamp - but they arise
only rarely.)

    PEDIATRICIANS TO THE RESCUE...

    "The importance of larger numbers of stem cells to the success of
engraftment could encourage...cord clamping is done too soon after
birth...the infant may be deprived of a placental blood transfusion,
resulting in lower blood volume and increased risk for anemia in later
life...There may be a temptation to practice immediate cord clamping
aggressively to increase the volume of cord blood that can be harvested for
cord blood banking. This practice is unethical and should be
discouraged...."
    PEDIATRICS Vol. 104 No. 1 July 1999, pp. 116-118

    KEY POINT:  Immediate cord clamping forces babies to "donate" cord stem
cells to OTHER PEOPLE.

    Now, to be sure, in umbilical cord blood banking promotion, the OTHER
PEOPLE are the babies themselves - LATER IN LIFE - but...

    F. Leonard Johnson, MD of Oregon Health and Science University/OHSU
says:
    "...[A]t most only 0.04 percent of the cord blood units stored for
    the baby's exclusive use might actually be used--and this is very likely
a
    gross overestimate."
    http://www.cord-blood.org/id21.htm
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/3086

    Since an estimated 4.6% of "healthy" term neonates suffer unexplained
brain bleeds.

    Since there are unexplained paralyses and unexplained DEATHS following
birth...

    I think 100% of babies would want ALL of their stem cells at birth and
not have some that they would otherwise have tranfused to themselves stored
for them for use later in life.

    Sincerely,

    Todd

    Dr. Gastaldo
    t...@chiromotion.com

    PS Kelly, thanks for writing to find out if I am doing OK.  I was pretty
depressed recently.  I'm much better now; but obviously, some depression
about this or that is a picnic compared to having to care 24-7 for a
brain-injured child.

    Copied to:

    Peter Hollands, PhD
    Scientific Director
    Cells for Life Ltd.
    #201-377 Church Street
    Markham, Ontario,
    Canada L6B 1A1
    Tel: 905 472 0060
    Email: pet...@cellsforlife.com
    http://www.ivf.ca/phollands.htm

    Peter,

    Some more "logical medical thought" for you...

    Williams Obstetrics teaches medical students to close birth canals up to
30% and KEEP birth canals closed when babies get stuck.  See The Four OB
Lies at the URL given below.

    Williams Obstetrics teaches medical students to pull on tiny spines with
hands, forceps and vacuums - with the birth canal closed up to 30%.

    It's gruesome mass spinal manipulation by MDs...

    OBs sometimes pull so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal
cords.

    Some babies die - some babies get paralyzed - most "only" have their
spines gruesomely wrenched.

    ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome with the birth canal senselessly
closed up to 30%.

    Additionally, OBs are committing SURGICAL felonies/batteries - slicing
vaginas/abdomens en masse (episiotomy/c-section) - surgically/fraudulently
inferring they are doing/have done everything possible to open birth
canals - even as they close birth canals up to 30%.

    To be sure, allowing birth canals to open the "extra" up to 30% will not
prevent all episiotomies or c-sections or instrumental deliveries - but
there is no reason women should have to ask for the "extra" up to 30% - no
reason for OBs to keep birth canals closed when babies get stuck.

    For The Four OB Lies - and for details on gruesome spinal manipulation
by OBs - and for simple
    instructions on how easy it is for women to OPEN the birth canal the
"extra"
    up to 30%...

    See Pediatricians: What about DURING birth?
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/3142

    Peter, you once offered a hypothetical situation...

    "A couple with two children and one of the parents suffers damage to the
spine in an accident resulting in paralysis from the neck down. The couple
decide that they would like to create an embryo to provide stem cells to
repair the damage to the spine and give that parent the chance to return to
normal life. Is this acceptable?"
    http://www.ivf.net/artman/publish/article_89.shtml

    How can you say,

    "...[B]abies with medical problems at delivery...[should have their
cords] clamped immediately so [they] can be attended to by neonatal
paediatricians..." (?)

    What if the medical problem is paralysis as in your hypothetical
situation?

    What if stem cells help repair brachial plexus paralysis?

    Thanks for reading.

    Sincerely,

    Todd

    Dr. Gastaldo
    t...@chiromotion.com

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<m...@cordpartners.com> wrote in message
news:1106706305.537406.111070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Ericka:
> I am the Chairman & CEO of Cord Blood America, parent company to Cord
> Partners, Inc. (www.cordpartners.com), a private cord blood banking
> company.
> In reading all of the comments attached, it is obvious that many
> people, including medical professionals, are misinformed about
> umbilical cord blood, its stem cells and the chances of use.

> I suggest you read up on the industry and really understand what you
> are discarding if you choose not to privately bank.  There are 22
> private companies in the United States that provide cord blood banking.
> Some better than others.  A good place to start is
> www.parentsguidecordblood.com, a non-biased website which talks about
> each and every company.

<snip>

>>>>>END Gastaldo's post to Cord Blood America

Copied to:

Peter Hollands, PhD
Scientific Director
Cells for Life Ltd.
#201-377 Church Street
Markham, Ontario,
Canada L6B 1A1
Tel: 905 472 0060
Email: pet...@cellsforlife.com
http://www.ivf.ca/phollands.htm

Peter,

Again, it was a dodge for you to say: "In terms of cord blood collection we
do not advocate either early or late clamping, simply normal practice."

Immediate cord clamping IS "simply normal practice" - in babies with medical
problems at delivery (!), as in your statement,

...[B]abies with medical problems at delivery...[should have their cords]
clamped immediately so [they] can be attended to by neonatal
paediatricians..."

Babies with medical problems at delivery may be suffering BRAIN DAMAGE and,
as you say,

"If there were damaged areas of brain...then stem cells could potentially
repair these lesions."
http://www.cord-blood.org/id15.htm (Can stem cells cure Epilepsy?)

Please explicitly advocate what retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley,
MB ChB, FACOG advocates...

Cord blood should only be harvested after the cord has stopped pulsating and
the baby is pink
and breathing and not in need of resuscitation.

Thanks for reading.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo
t...@chiromotion.com

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