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Michelle

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Jul 5, 2001, 9:38:21 PM7/5/01
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Hi!
I'm sure this question has been posted before, but I am "new" and
haven't seen it. I'm almost 6 weeks pregnant and have no nausea at
all. Not even a little bit. My friend is also pregnant and is very
sick (she is about 7 weeks). She has had morning sickness for several
weeks. Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the
better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation. He
said if you are not nauseous, it could mean your body is not producing
enough pregnancy hormone, or you could have a weak implantation, thus
leading to miscarriage. According to my friend, the doctor made it
sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once
back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?

Michelle

Mom2Many.com

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Jul 5, 2001, 10:01:41 PM7/5/01
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I've had three pregnancies (the first one was a set of twins) without any
nausea or morning sickness at all, am quite fertile and have no history of
miscarriages. It could be that my hormone levels were/are low, I don't
know, but it hasn't caused any implantation problems for me. I hope that
helps put your mind at rest...there is so much to look forward to!

Wishing you a healthy pregnancy,

Anita

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Ericka Kammerer

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Jul 5, 2001, 10:07:28 PM7/5/01
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No. The converse may be true (weak implantation implies
no nausea), but that in no way means that no nausea implies
weak implantation. Many women have little or no morning sickness
and have perfect pregnancies. I only had a little myself (no
throwing up--just felt green around the gills every now and
again). I think people just tell women who have bad nausea
that it means the baby is thriving in order to make them feel better
about feeling miserable ;-) I know telling a pregnant woman
not to worry is practically useless, but try to relax a little
bit. Odds are that everything is just fine and you're either
lucky or about to be hit with *really* wicked nausea yourself ;-)

Take care,
Ericka

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Rosie

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Jul 5, 2001, 10:07:35 PM7/5/01
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With my first, I had morning sickness, but it didn't start until around
the time I would have missed my second period, so after 8 or 9 weeks.

With my second, due any time now, I had no morning sickness at all, and
I am most certainly pregnant!

I have never heard a doctor say that a lack of nausea meant anything.
Each pregnancy is different. You may get nausea, but a bit later, or
you may escape. If you do, don't doubt your pregnancy, but count your blessings!

mb

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Jul 5, 2001, 10:25:40 PM7/5/01
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I never got sick until 8 wks lmp and it got less with each pregnancy. This
last time, I didn't have any nausea, and like you, having suffered a
miscarriage once I panicked and got tested. Lo and behold it was low
pregesterone, so I went on supplements until 12 weeks.
Get your numbers checked via bloodtest if you are worried, its a simple
thing and who knows, it may be an issue for you. The placenta doesn't start
producing progesterone until about 12-14 weeks.
That whole implantation strength theory sounds spurious to me, I've never
heard of it like that. Maybe he was dumbing down some thing or other? Get
the data then have peace of mind and be happy that this time, maybe you've
escaped nausea, course you could get it in 3rd tri like my poor gf!
Moe
#3 child due 8.22.01
ps my miscarriage was my first pregnancy and worst bout of nausea, go figure

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Sophie

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Jul 5, 2001, 11:18:57 PM7/5/01
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I don't buy it. Morning sickness varies from woman to woman and pregnancy
to pregnancy. All 3 of mine have been different. I wouldn't worry. Enjoy
it while you can, you never know, it might hit you tomorrow. Lol.

--
Sophie
mom to Charlotte (6/98)
Patrick (11/99)
#3 due 12/20
See us at www.mcgehees.com


Naomi Lynne Pardue

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Jul 5, 2001, 11:24:47 PM7/5/01
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I had very little nausea during my pregancy, and none at all at
6 weeks. (Consider that, until quite recently, most women wouldn't even
have suspected they were pregnant at 6 weeks, and even today, plenty
of women don't know that soon. If everyone had morning sickness,
there would be no question, now would there?)

Naomi


Gwendolen

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Jul 5, 2001, 11:32:00 PM7/5/01
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My sil had no morning sickness at all, continued to work 12-15 hour days
(they own a store), travelled the world (she's the buyer) and said she never
had more energy than when she was pregnant. I was horribly ill and wanted
to kill her! : ) She had a perfectly healthy baby girl.

Gwendolen

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Deb D

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Jul 5, 2001, 11:43:38 PM7/5/01
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Michelle -

I'm about a week and a half from my EDD with my first, and I had
absolutely no morning sickness! I felt really bad for all my friends
who were curled up in a fetal position, munching saltines, but I
wouldn't have traded places with them. <grin> Jus thope your luck
holds out.

I read somewhere that over 25% of women do not have morning sickness,
so it's probably not that unusual. :-)

-Deb
EDD 7/16/01


On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:38:21 GMT, mbo...@hotmail.com (Michelle)
wrote:

> <SNIP>

KassLemon

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> On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:38:21 GMT, mbo...@hotmail.com (Michelle)
> wrote:
>
> my mom and grandma each had two babies and not a speck of nausea.

I know at least a dozen ppl who had babies without nausea AT ALL!
Dont' worry, the doctor was propably only trying to help your friend deal
better with her m/s problems.
You should not interpret what a friend was told by her doctor and adapt it
to your case. Different person means different case, which means different
doc speach.

Hope that helped you, I wish you all the best for the rest of your preg.
KassLemon
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> wombn
> TTC #1 @ age 39
> insulin-dependent


Sarajoyo

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Jul 6, 2001, 7:14:19 AM7/6/01
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Michelle,

I'm just a few days ahead of you, at 6 weeks and 3 days, and so far I've got no
morning sickness at all. I keep waiting for it to hit me. As far as anyone
can tell, everything is fine. I had my progesterone checked a couple of weeks
ago, and though nobody told me the exact numbers, they said everything was
fine; plus my breasts are swollen and tender, which is probably the
progesterone. My hCG levels doubled nicely early on, like they're supposed to,
and I had an u/s on Monday, and everything looked fine. Maybe we're just lucky
enough not to have m/s (my mom said she didn't either, so hopefully I inherited
that), or maybe it'll hit pretty soon. I'm sure all is fine though. :)

-Sara:)
& A Little Miracle, Due 3-1-02

Pooh

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Jul 6, 2001, 9:15:56 AM7/6/01
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michelle, mate,

the high hormones = bad nausea = healthy pregnancy theory is a load of
hooey! each pregnancy is different. whenever doctors, friends, mothers etc
start speaking in absolutes about pregnancy listen warily!

i never, for a moment, felt sick and never felt more glorious than when i
was pregnant and rachie girl is here and fignhting fit!

i think that this nonsense is spread to reassure women who feel like crap
during the whole morning sickness nightmare. what happens during your
pregnancy, the likelihood of miscarriage, etc is TOTALLY in the hands of the
gods. whether you are chucking your cornflakes (or not) has nothing to do
with it.

now go and knock on wood or you might regret it!!
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fiona
mummy to rachel rose (16 feb 2001)
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Leanne Townsend

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Jul 6, 2001, 11:07:05 AM7/6/01
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Hi Michelle,

First of all i want to say congrats!!
Try not to worry about not feeling nautious, just feel lucky! :o) If you
stress that is not good for yourself or your baby so try to relax. Its all
you can do.

I did feel sick with both of my pregnancies, from about 6 weeks through
to about 12 weeks, but was never actually sick. Thankfully.:o)

Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy.

Leanne

Kay Connelly

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Jul 6, 2001, 11:45:35 AM7/6/01
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Michelle,

I haven't read all of the replies to your post yet, but DON'T WORRY!
With my first child, I had a lot of morning sickness. With my second,
I've had NONE (and I'm 34 weeks now). I know many women who
haven't experienced morning sickness. So, count your blessings!

Kay

H Schinske

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Jul 6, 2001, 4:08:43 PM7/6/01
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>Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the
>>better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation.

Complete BS. Up to a third of women have no significant nausea. My mother had
hardly any morning sickness in her seven pregnancies, and she never had a
single miscarriage (unless it was so early that she thought it was a late
period). At least twice she didn't know she was pregnant for a couple of
months.

What *is* a red flag is if you have a *sudden cessation* of pregnancy symptoms,
which can mean a miscarriage.

--Helen

Kris

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Jul 6, 2001, 5:35:31 PM7/6/01
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H Schinske wrote:


> What *is* a red flag is if you have a *sudden cessation* of pregnancy
> symptoms, which can mean a miscarriage.

What does that mean? Women who wake up out of the blue fresh and free of
all the normal symptoms of a pregnancy are suddenly at risk for miscarriage?
The only red flag I see as a sure sign of a threatened miscarriage is
bleeding accompanied with lower abdominal cramping and/or low backache.

I don't have a lot of info or experience on miscarriage, so please share :)

--
:)Kris

Vic Schmitz

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Jul 6, 2001, 9:52:23 PM7/6/01
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Count your blessings. I had hyperemesis with 4 of my 5 pregnancies and
am almost 7 weeks along with #5 and have not a trace of nausea. I keep
waiting for the bomb to drop. I almost died with #4 and was on a PIC
line at home for 8 weeks, being fed vitamins, glucose, and Zofran
intraveinously. You do NOT wanna go there. ;o)

Enjoy it because it can hit at any stage or not at all. I've got my
fingers and toes crossed for BOTH of us! LOL

Vic
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are all common in zones of orogeny

Vic Schmitz

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Jul 7, 2001, 12:00:58 AM7/7/01
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Kris <kr...@bagiu.com> wrote in message news:<B76B7D0B.3083%kr...@bagiu.com>...

I have had 3 m/c in the last year and a half. The first two followed
my usual barfy-feeling pregnant self and then I woke up one morning
and nada. No nausea, boobs no longer painful and swollen, nothing.
Followed a day or two later by cramping and bleeding. :o( The last one
was pretty insignificant in symptoms and they never got stronger, only
weaker, until they died away with the embryo.

Helen is correct - it's a major red flag if you are having symptoms
and the SUDDENLY, they're gone. It doesn't mean that the baby is gone
but it's something to never ignore and you should always call your
care provider if this happens.

It's the one that that has me creeped out about this pregnancy. No
nausea, almost 7 weeks along, and just major boob pain and swelling
(my god - I can fit into my bra's!!LOL). Of course, I'm used to
hyperemesis so #5 has been a joy so far!!

vic
(aka, Earthquake Girl)


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Andrea

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Jul 7, 2001, 12:57:45 AM7/7/01
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Actually being sick is more uncommon than being sick, I read somewhere
that only 30% of pregnant womyn get morning sickness. I'm 1/2 way
through my 10th pregnancy and I have only had mild (very mild) nausea
from about 8-11 weeks with my twins (8th pregnancy) a bit stronger
nausea and earlier with my next pregnancy which I miscarried at 8
weeks, and mayby a week of mild nausea with this pregnancy. With the
rest I have had absolutely nothing. I put my nausea in these last
pregnancies down to not eating regularly and being tired rather than
weak hormones, in fact the only baby I lost I had the strongest amount
of sickness.

Andrea
Due November


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MariMc25

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Jul 7, 2001, 1:23:56 AM7/7/01
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>Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?
>
>Michelle

I have no idea, but I never felt any real nausea through three pregnancies.
All were carried to term.

Mary
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Kris

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Jul 7, 2001, 1:41:04 AM7/7/01
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Vic Schmitz wrote:


> Helen is correct - it's a major red flag if you are having symptoms
> and the SUDDENLY, they're gone. It doesn't mean that the baby is gone
> but it's something to never ignore and you should always call your
> care provider if this happens.

Interesting. I've never heard anyone tell the midwife or have I been
instructed by the midwife to let her know if symptoms suddenly stop (as her
assistant who takes patient info or as a patient myself). I have been one
of those people who suddenly wake up feeling great one morning and stay that
way (four babies) and been sick as a dog right 'til the end (miscarriage).

I'll be asking about it, because as it stands now, the red flags I have been
advised of are bleeding, abdominal pain/cramping, and low back pain.

Maybe a YMMV thing? I would hate that women who are feeling just fine and
don't have any complaints or are suddenly feeling better (with whatever
nagging symptom they present) should be on guard for miscarriage. Make
sense?

--
:)Kris

Sophie

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Jul 7, 2001, 9:31:29 AM7/7/01
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Kris,

I remember with Charlotte I felt awful (like usual) then *one day* nothing,
I felt fantastic. So I did call the Dr who laughed and said enjoy it. Sure
enough the next day I felt like crap again. Honestly I always *assumed*
bleeding and cramping were the *bad* signs. It doesn't necessarily mean you
*will* have a miscarriage. But since I've never had bleeding, I've never
worried.

Doulamom

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in article B76BEED6.31EB%kr...@bagiu.com, Kris at kr...@bagiu.com wrote on
7/7/01 12:41 AM:


I was told by my midwife when I was pregnant with #4 to come in if I had a
sudden cessation of symptoms BUT I had also had a bleeding episode at 5
weeks (that ended up lasting until 12).

Karen

MSR

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Jul 7, 2001, 2:35:28 PM7/7/01
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:38:21 GMT, mbo...@hotmail.com (Michelle) wrote:

> According to my friend, the doctor made it
>sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
>nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once
>back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
>Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?

Michelle,

I've never had morning sickness, in my full-term pregnancies or 10-week
miscarriage. I went 42 weeks with my last baby, so it seems like he was
implanted pretty good in there. :P

--
Meghan
Mom to Tristan (12/6/88) and Killian (7/18/00)
Check out Killian's website at http://www.allaboutkillian.com

HHerbalOne

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>mbo...@hotmail.com (Michelle) wrote:
>
> According to my friend, the doctor made it
>sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
>nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once
>back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
>Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?
>
>Michelle,

There was an old wive's saying that went: "A sick pregnancy is a safe
pregnancy." Bunch of rubbish.
H.


Sidheag

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Jul 7, 2001, 6:49:39 PM7/7/01
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hherb...@aol.com (HHerbalOne) wrote in message

> There was an old wive's saying that went: "A sick pregnancy is a safe
> pregnancy." Bunch of rubbish.

This is "sick implies safe" which is very different from "safe implies sick".
All I've noticed so far is lots of people saying that they weren't sick
and were safe: from which we conclude that "A safe pregnancy is a sick
pregnancy" is a bunch of rubbish, which should reassure the OP.

But just for interest, and in case it does give some consolation to people
who are very sick, *is* "a sick pregnancy is a safe pregnancy" rubbish?
That is, is it rubbish to say that sickness is a positive sign of good
implantation (even while admitting that you can have good implantation with
no sickness)?

Sidheag

Michelle

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Jul 7, 2001, 7:00:45 PM7/7/01
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I still have no nausea, but I am starting to feel a whole lot better
since hearing from some of you who say you NEVER had nausea and all
went well. My first doctors appointment is not for 3 more weeks, so I
have no idea if my hormone levels are normal or what.

Michelle

HHerbalOne

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>From: sid...@yahoo.co.uk (Sidheag)
>Date: 7/7/01 4:49 PM CST
>Message-id: <8f0c961b.01070...@posting.google.com>

Wha?

Cheryl S.

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Jul 7, 2001, 11:58:08 PM7/7/01
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I hope Sidheag doesn't mind if I offer HHerbalOne an
interpretation...
I think what she means is: we have heard from lots of people who
disprove the theory "if you have a safe pregnancy then you are
sick", because they were *not* sick and had a successful pregnancy.
Now she is curious about the converse, which is, "if you are sick
then your pg is safe." IOW, has anyone out there had morning
sickness and still lost that pregnancy?
Cheryl S.
mom to Julie 3/19/01

Sophie

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Jul 7, 2001, 9:13:19 PM7/7/01
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Sidheag said : >But just for interest, and in case it does give some

consolation to people
>who are very sick, *is* "a sick pregnancy is a safe pregnancy" rubbish?
>That is, is it rubbish to say that sickness is a positive sign of good
>implantation (even while admitting that you can have good implantation with
>no sickness)?

I think we're all saying it doesn't matter either way. Being very sick or
not sick at all simply doesn't mean anything. Either *condition* (for lack
of a better word) doesn't mean everything's fine but it also doesn't mean
you'll have a miscarriage. Every woman and every pregnancy is so different
that there just can't be a *rule* about what morning sickness (or lack of
it) means.

Make sense?

Sidheag

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Jul 8, 2001, 7:31:47 AM7/8/01
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Thanks for interpreting Cheryl!

I looked around on the web but didn't find anything terribly conclusive.
I did find several places that said it had been suggested that hyperemesis
(very severe MS) had been associated with lower miscarriage rates, though,
so I didn't dream that. I don't know whether it's been proven though.

(I'm hesitant about even saying this as all I found was one study and
people sometimes take single studies as absolute truth and panic, so
please don't assume this is right or is of more than theoretical
interest even if it is. One study suggested, tentatively, that
hyperemesis was associated with a slightly increased risk (5.8%
instead of 5%) of congenital malformations e.g. Down's syndrome. They
hypothesised that this might be because fetuses with DS were surviving
whereas they might otherwise have been miscarried. However, even this
small difference was clearly not something they considered
conclusively proven: the authors said "However, in order to be able to
determine the significance of this finding, a much larger population
number would be required." See http://www.nvp-volumes.org/p1_6.htm for
details but only if you're happy with statistics and won't panic!)

Sidheag

Cathy Weeks

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Jul 8, 2001, 9:34:54 AM7/8/01
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There have been many posts to this already, but I just throw in my two
cents.

mbo...@hotmail.com (Michelle) wrote in message news:<3b45149f....@news-server.houston.rr.com>...
> Hi!

> I'm sure this question has been posted before, but I am "new" and
> haven't seen it. I'm almost 6 weeks pregnant and have no nausea at
> all. Not even a little bit.

I'm 17.5 weeks pregnant, and I never did have morning sickness.
Extreme exhaustion, and an unpleasant bloated feeling, but no ms.


> My friend is also pregnant and is very
> sick (she is about 7 weeks). She has had morning sickness for several
> weeks. Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the
> better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation.

Well, it is true, to some extent. Lots of nausea does mean you have
lots of hormones. But no nausea doesn't mean you don't have lots of
hormones. Make sense?

>He
> said if you are not nauseous, it could mean your body is not producing
> enough pregnancy hormone, or you could have a weak implantation, thus
> leading to miscarriage.

Right. It could mean that. But it doesn't necessarily. In fact, I'll
go out on a limb and say MOST of the time, a lack of MS means only
that you are a lucky woman! Most miscarriages occur in the first two
weeks after fertilization, before the woman even misses a period,
before most people would even experience morning sickness anyway. The
fact that you've made it to 6 weeks, means you'll probably not have a
miscarriage (though it's not impossible), and the risk of miscarriage
drops even farther after 12 weeks.

> According to my friend, the doctor made it
> sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
> nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage.

According to Dr. Sears in the Pregnancy Book, about 80% of women have
some form of morning sickness. My mother never had morning sickness
with any of her kids-she had 3, and she NEVER had a miscarriage (that
she was aware of). My grandmother did have a miscarriage (but had 3
healthy babies), and she never did have MS, either. My mom's sister
had terrible morning sickness, and she also had one miscarriage (but
had two healthy kids). So, even in one family, there doesn't seem to
be any correlation. But that's anecdotal.

> I have miscarried once
> back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
> Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?

I understand your nervousness. However, I've made it to 17 weeks with
no morning sickness or miscarriage (just heard the heartbeat again a
couple of days ago, and it sounds strong and fast). I suppose I could
still have a miscarriage, but lets hope not!

No nausea can mean weak inplantation, but likely as not doesn't mean
that.

Good luck!

Cathy Weeks
edd 12/12/01

Ellen Hrebeniuk

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In article <3b45149f....@news-server.houston.rr.com>,
mbo...@hotmail.com wrote:

> I'm sure this question has been posted before, but I am "new" and
> haven't seen it. I'm almost 6 weeks pregnant and have no nausea at

> all. Not even a little bit. My friend is also pregnant and is very


> sick (she is about 7 weeks). She has had morning sickness for several
> weeks. Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the

> better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation. He


> said if you are not nauseous, it could mean your body is not producing
> enough pregnancy hormone, or you could have a weak implantation, thus

> leading to miscarriage. According to my friend, the doctor made it


> sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the

> nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once


> back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
> Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?

I believe that nausea means good hormone levels, but it does not follow
that no nausea means bad hormone levels. I had no morning sickness and
DS (15 weeks) is latched on for afternoon tea as I write -- you could be
just lucky, like me!

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Chookie
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Tara Danielle

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Hi
I only ever had two dys of morning sickness and my hormones were fine. I
was even able to drink coffee and eat eggs (before they went back to saying
to limit caffeinne)
I bet you're fine :-)
Tara


Thomas and Pamela Reid

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Jul 9, 2001, 9:39:50 AM7/9/01
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I've had four pregnancies without any morning sickness at all and my hormones
were just fine too - I'm sure you're fine :)

Pamela
Mother of Justin (6), Iain (5), Shaughn (3), and Benjamin (4 months)

hamilton

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In article <ehrebeniuk-3F89AD.15554909072001@news>, Ellen Hrebeniuk
<ehreb...@optushome.com.au> wrote:

> In article <3b45149f....@news-server.houston.rr.com>,
> mbo...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this question has been posted before, but I am "new" and
> > haven't seen it. I'm almost 6 weeks pregnant and have no nausea at
> > all. Not even a little bit. My friend is also pregnant and is very
> > sick (she is about 7 weeks). She has had morning sickness for several
> > weeks. Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the
> > better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation. He
> > said if you are not nauseous, it could mean your body is not producing
> > enough pregnancy hormone, or you could have a weak implantation, thus
> > leading to miscarriage. According to my friend, the doctor made it
> > sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
> > nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once
> > back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
> > Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?
>
> I believe that nausea means good hormone levels, but it does not follow
> that no nausea means bad hormone levels. I had no morning sickness and
> DS (15 weeks) is latched on for afternoon tea as I write -- you could be
> just lucky, like me!

the myth that morning sickness was 'good' for pregnancy is just that a myth
recent analysis of research data showed that there is no relationship
between miscarriage and morning sickness once age of mother is
controlled. Apparently older women have more miscarriages and less
morning sickness and younger women have more morning sickness and fewer
miscarriages -- once age is controlled there is no relationship.

lots of people have no morning sickness and perfectly healthy pregnancies
[me for example and my mother] others have morning sickness and
miscarriages [and of course the opposite is true as well]

if you dn't have morning sickness be thankful not worried.

Michelle G

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Jul 10, 2001, 8:40:23 AM7/10/01
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I remember reading in the paper about 2 years ago that morning sickness is
related to the baby's gender, also. I *think* (don't quote me on this :->)
that lots of morning sickness is correlated with having a boy and not a lot is
correlated with having a girl. Does anyone know anything about that? FWIW, I
had a friend who was pregnant at the time, had almost no m.s. at all and had a
girl.

I remember being really fascinated at the time, but now that I'm pregnant, I
realize that's it's not terribly helpful, since it's my first pregnancy I don't
have any personal basis of comparison for what's a lot and what's a little.

>recent analysis of research data showed that there is no relationship
>between miscarriage and morning sickness once age of mother is
>controlled.

Michelle G
First time mom-to-be
EDD 12/2/01

Sarajoyo

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Jul 10, 2001, 9:45:47 AM7/10/01
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>I *think* (don't quote me on this :->)
>that lots of morning sickness is correlated with having a boy and not a lot
>is
>correlated with having a girl.

I'd love if that were true! Then I'd be having a girl, 'cause I'm not having a
lot of m/s yet. :)

-Sara:)
& A Little Miracle, Due 3-1-02

hamilton

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Jul 10, 2001, 10:30:38 AM7/10/01
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In article <20010710094547...@ng-ck1.aol.com>,
sara...@aol.comnospam (Sarajoyo) wrote:

it is a very slight relationship -- and I seem to recall it was associated
with having a girl --

Adagio

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Jul 10, 2001, 11:06:05 AM7/10/01
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Sarajoyo <sara...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>>I *think* (don't quote me on this :->)
>>that lots of morning sickness is correlated with having a boy and not a lot
>>is
>>correlated with having a girl.

>I'd love if that were true! Then I'd be having a girl, 'cause I'm not having a
>lot of m/s yet. :)

First child - very little m/s - a girl
Second child - lots of m/s - a boy
Third child - got sick a lot, but now attribute it to dairy consumption -
a preemie girl

Now, in my 5th pregnancy -barely any nausea to speak of, and I think I am
having a girl. Time will tell.

Adagio
Mother of 3, stepmom to 1, and baby #4 due Oct 10, 2001

Tatjana

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Jul 10, 2001, 11:12:19 AM7/10/01
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"Sarajoyo" <sara...@aol.comnospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:20010710094547...@ng-ck1.aol.com...

> >I *think* (don't quote me on this :->)
> >that lots of morning sickness is correlated with having a boy and not a
lot
> >is
> >correlated with having a girl.
>
> I'd love if that were true! Then I'd be having a girl, 'cause I'm not
having a
> lot of m/s yet. :)

Completely useless for statistics - but it was that way for my mum ;) She
was miserable with my brother, hadn't even so much as nausea with me.

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Cheryl S.

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Jul 10, 2001, 7:37:41 PM7/10/01
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I don't think this is true. I had actually heard the opposite myth,
that if you are sick a lot it's because you're having a girl and
she's stealing your looks. But among my mom, sisters, college
roommate and me there are every possible combination of amount of
morning sickness and gender of the baby.
Cheryl S.
mom to Julie 3/19/01 (with no morning sickness whatsoever)

hamilton

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Jul 10, 2001, 4:50:41 PM7/10/01
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In article <3B4B91C5...@address.com>, "Cheryl S."
<spamf...@address.com> wrote:

there is apparently a statistically significant relationship [and I think
it is with girls causing more ms] but it is very slight -- e.g. something
like 57% had it with girls and 54% with boys [something like that -- I am
making these numbers up but when I read the article it was about this much
difference]
In a large population it is a 'significant' difference, but it is not an
important difference and doesn't really give an individual information of
any use.

Larry McMahan

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Jul 13, 2001, 1:23:53 PM7/13/01
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(top posting again, so I get REALLY good at it)

What I know is that there are OTHER reasons for having or not having
morning sickness other than hromone level. A study several years
ago found that women who have no or almost no saturated fats in her
diet were much less likely to have morning sickness than women who
whose diets were high in saturated fats prior to pregnancy.

IIRC, a women who had the equivalent of 1 big mack worth of sat
fat per day was 10x more likely to have morning sickness than a
woman with no sat fat.

Larry

Michelle <mbo...@hotmail.com> writes:
: Hi!
: I'm sure this question has been posted before, but I am "new" and


: haven't seen it. I'm almost 6 weeks pregnant and have no nausea at
: all. Not even a little bit. My friend is also pregnant and is very
: sick (she is about 7 weeks). She has had morning sickness for several
: weeks. Anyway, her doctor told her that the more nauseous you are the
: better. He said that it means the egg made a strong implantation. He
: said if you are not nauseous, it could mean your body is not producing
: enough pregnancy hormone, or you could have a weak implantation, thus
: leading to miscarriage. According to my friend, the doctor made it
: sound like very few women escape nausea. And if you do escape the
: nausea, you may be headed for miscarriage. I have miscarried once
: back in february, (at 5 weeks), so I am a bit nervous.
: Does anyone else believe that no nausea means a weak implantation?

: Michelle

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Larry McMahan

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Jul 16, 2001, 3:55:02 PM7/16/01
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Mary S. <mswe...@yahoo.com> writes:
: Larry McMahan wrote:
:
:> What I know is that there are OTHER reasons for having or not having

:> morning sickness other than hromone level. A study several years
:> ago found that women who have no or almost no saturated fats in her
:> diet were much less likely to have morning sickness than women who
:> whose diets were high in saturated fats prior to pregnancy.

: If only! I'm a vegetarian and have eaten VERY little animal fat in the
: year before becoming pregnant, and I have been in agony the last three
: days... I told DH that I really hope this is twins because I am NEVER
: getting pregnant again.

: Mary S.

: --
: Mary Sweathe
: San Francisco, CA

There are some plant fats that are saturated: Cottonseed, corn,
partially hydrogenated soy.

Larry

Tony & Bronwen Smith

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Jul 18, 2001, 8:08:57 AM7/18/01
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Hi,
I have had four girls and was very sick with all of them. I have also had one
miscarriage and was not very sick at all with that one (sex unknown).
Bronwen

gigi...@gmail.com

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