Scientific Link To Autism Identified
john
Scientific Link To Autism Identified
19 Nov 2009
During its research into the application of neuroscience in business, a New
Jersey based think tank, The Center for Modeling Optimal Outcomes�, LLC (The
Center) made an inadvertent and amazing discovery.
The Center examined the neuroscientific dynamics of logic and emotion in
decision making while researching neuroscience in business. They found
unique corollary relationships between various brain chemicals
(neurohormones, neurotransmitters, etc.). This apparent pattern led to a new
path of research for the team outside of business. By looking at extensive
scientific literature they discovered a cascade of hormones that emanate
from the brain (hypothalamus). This same pattern of correlations was again
apparent throughout the cascade. The group added a research biologist and
started to test the pattern on genes (proteins). It remained consistent. The
Center then called upon advisors from chemistry and physics to see if the
pattern would apply in physical sciences.
To the amazement of the group, it became apparent that this pattern of
corollary relationships could be applied to scientific processes for
maintaining equilibrium (homeostatic relationships) throughout all of
science; from subatomic particles to chemistry as well as between biological
substances.
While the entire scientific community knows that homeostasis exists, this
tacit knowledge has not been converted into a step-by-step, replicable
model. The Center identified precisely such an explicit process.
Challenged by several of The Center's advisors, members of the team decided
to test the efficacy of the model to determine if the disruptions that cause
autism could be identified.
After careful review of countless scientific studies, meeting with several
renowned scientists to discuss their findings, and then applying the
modeling process to numerous hypotheses, The Center's Life Sciences group
was able to formulate a scientifically verifiable model for the highly
probable causal path of autism. Through the application of their model, it
became apparent that autism is an outcome of several variables that, when
the homeostatic relationship of each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm"
scenario results in autism. The application of the model identified several
of the variables that account for why boys have a 4 to 1 ratio of instances
over girls as well as why not every boy is affected.
While the scientific community will have to validate The Center's findings,
the model for assessing homeostatic relationships indicates the "trigger"
behind autism is an imbalance between a pair of amino acid
neurotransmitters; glutamate and glycine.
According to The Center's founder, William McFaul, a retired business person
and not a member of the scientific community, "Because of its universal
applicability, our Life Sciences group has already used the model as a tool
to identify highly probable causal paths for several illnesses and disease
entities. Autism was one of most difficult illnesses The Center had
attempted to analyze.
If it hadn't been for so many parents insisting that vaccines were
responsible for the condition, we might never have found the fact that the
stabilizer in MMR and a few other vaccines is hydrolyzed gelatin; a
substance that is approximately 21% glycine.
It appears that, based on readily verifiable science, the use of that form
of glycine triggers an imbalance between the amino acid neurotransmitters
responsible for the absorption rate of certain classes of cells throughout
the body.
It is that wide-spread disruption that apparently results in the systemic
problems that encompass the mind and the body characterized in today's
'classic' autism."
He also added, "The use of our model indicates each of the disorders within
Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) is attributable to different disruptions in
homeostasis. We look forward to sharing our findings relative to each
disorder with the scientific community."
According to Linda Oliver-Perrier, The Center's spokesperson for their Life
Sciences group, "The details of the disruptive process are somewhat complex
and not conducive for explanation in a press release.
McFaul added, "The Center is seeking to affiliate with academic centers to
provide its model for homeostasis to the scientific community for use as a
tool to enable researchers to identify root causes of illnesses and disease
entities. The Center is a think tank that creates models. We are not an
operating company with the resources to educate individuals or organizations
on the application of the models we create.
Source: The Center for Modeling Optimal Outcomes LLC
Article URL: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
Main News Category: Autism
Also Appears In: Neurology / Neuroscience, Biology / Biochemistry,
Mark Probert
http://daisymayfattypants.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-nonsense-afoot.html
"Read this one today. It starts with several paragraphs of garbage
masquerading as science-speak (e.g., "By looking at extensive
scientific literature they discovered a cascade of hormones that
emanate from the brain (hypothalamus)." Really? Gee. That'll be a
huge
surprise to all those endocrinologists out there."
Later in her post, referring to glycine
"It's absorbed well in the gut (it's a pretty basic and versatile
amino acid), too. And the bottom line is, the nervous system is far,
far more complicated than, "Hey! Here's a little extra glycine today!
Let's all go haywire and redo everything! Even though our bodies make
tons of this stuff anyway! And we need it!" Just doesn't work that
way."
Peter Moran
news:fcebc6b4-8d85-4d89...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
http://daisymayfattypants.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-nonsense-afoot.html
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Yes. It's too ridiculous for words.
PM
john
"Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes. It's too ridiculous for words.
>
> PM
Only for the perpetrators
http://www.whale.to/a/msg_h.html
john
PeterB - Original
> Article URL:http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
A modeling tool this accurate would completely revolutionize
epidemiology if it turns out to be true. Our resident pharmnuts have
predictably attacked the article without knowing all the facts.
Thanks for posting this.
Jan Drew
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Jan Drew
Thanks, John. The *gang* refuses to face facts. It makes their
postings (garbage) wrong.
dr_jeff
Thanks. Interestingly, this indicates that vaccines do *NOT* cause autism.
jeff
dr_jeff
Actually, the hypothalamus does make many different hormones,
neurotransmitters and hormones, which are then secreted into the brain
or the blood (part of the pituitary gland is an extension of the
hypothalamus and part of it releases hormones in response to releasing
hormones from the hyopthalamus).
Jeff
Mark Probert
Actually, the points I posted totally refute what the writer
says.Perhaps you should leaarn how to read:
Mark Probert
Actually, the M O R O N S refuse to face this fact:
"It's absorbed well in the gut (it's a pretty basic and versatile
amino acid), too. And the bottom line is, the nervous system is far,
far more complicated than, "Hey! Here's a little extra glycine today!
Let's all go haywire and redo everything! Even though our bodies make
tons of this stuff anyway! And we need it!" Just doesn't work that
way."
Which shows the entire article is crap.
PeterB - Original
No markey, it doesn't. The article states: "The details of the
disruptive process are somewhat complex and not conducive for
explanation in a press release...Through the application of their
model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of SEVERAL
[emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic relationship of
each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario results in
autism." Thus, glycine was said to be just one of SEVERAL
variables. As a suggestion, you might try reading the text of the
posts you are responding to and at least pretend to have a clue.
Mark Probert
Yes, Petrid, it does.
The article states: "The details of the
> disruptive process are somewhat complex and not conducive for
> explanation in a press release
Of course the writer cannot relate it. If the human body is making
tons of the stuff, what does a little more, or less do? Nada.
...Through the application of their
> model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of SEVERAL
> [emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic relationship of
> each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario results in
> autism." Thus, glycine was said to be just one of SEVERAL
> variables.
So? It is a naturally occuring amino acid, made by the human body, and
it varies in levels. What makes you "think" that the writer knows what
he is talking about? Because he agrees with you.
As a suggestion, you might try reading the text of the
> posts you are responding to and at least pretend to have a clue.- Hide quoted text -
I do read the test, and read other information regarding the
information. You do not bother looking for anything that might call
your rocks into question.
> - Show quoted text -
PeterB - Original
Only in that soggy sponge you call a "brain."
> The article states: "The details of the
>
> > disruptive process are somewhat complex and not conducive for
> > explanation in a press release
>
> Of course the writer cannot relate it. If the human body is making
> tons of the stuff, what does a little more, or less do? Nada.
Ever heard of hemochromatosis? Ever heard of genetics? Ever heard of
individual biochemistry? Ever read a book on science? Oh, that's
right, you don't read books. You don't even know what a vector is, do
you?
> ...Through the application of their
>
> > model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of SEVERAL
> > [emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic relationship of
> > each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario results in
> > autism." Thus, glycine was said to be just one of SEVERAL
> > variables.
>
> So? It is a naturally occuring amino acid, made by the human body...
WHOOOOOOSH!!
>, and
> it varies in levels. What makes you "think" that the writer knows what
> he is talking about?
Unlike you, he hasn't made any errors in the logic used to discuss the
matter.
> Because he agrees with you.
>
> As a suggestion, you might try reading the text of the
>
> > posts you are responding to and at least pretend to have a clue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> I do read the test, and read other information regarding the
> information. You do not bother looking for anything that might call
> your rocks into question.
Based on your admitted aversion to reading books, it's probably an
understatement that I've read more in one year than you've read in
your entire life.
Mark Probert
Spnges absord, your rock is impervious.
>
> > The article states: "The details of the
>
> > > disruptive process are somewhat complex and not conducive for
> > > explanation in a press release
>
> > Of course the writer cannot relate it. If the human body is making
> > tons of the stuff, what does a little more, or less do? Nada.
>
> Ever heard of hemochromatosis?
Yes.
> Ever heard of genetics?
Yes.
Ever heard of
> individual biochemistry?
Yes.
> Ever read a book on science?
Many, in high school and college. Since then, I use primary sources.
You don't.
Oh, that's
> right, you don't read books.
Wrong. I do not rely on books, as you do, for science, as they can be
unreliable nd subject to interpretation by the author, fact cherry
picking by the author, etc.. I use primary sources, you don't.
You don't even know what a vector is, do
> you?
Sure I do. In fact, we had this disucssion once before, and you
resorted to your idiotsyncratic definitions.
> > ...Through the application of their
>
> > > model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of SEVERAL
> > > [emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic relationship of
> > > each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario results in
> > > autism." Thus, glycine was said to be just one of SEVERAL
> > > variables.
>
> > So? It is a naturally occuring amino acid, made by the human body...
>
> WHOOOOOOSH!!
Yes, I know the point escapes you.
> >, and
> > it varies in levels. What makes you "think" that the writer knows what
> > he is talking about?
>
> Unlike you, he hasn't made any errors in the logic used to discuss the
> matter.
According to you, not a reliable source.
> > Because he agrees with you.
>
> > As a suggestion, you might try reading the text of the
>
> > > posts you are responding to and at least pretend to have a clue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > I do read the test, and read other information regarding the
> > information. You do not bother looking for anything that might call
> > your rocks into question.
>
> Based on your admitted aversion to reading books, it's probably an
> understatement that I've read more in one year than you've read in
> your entire life.-
No, it is your vivid imagination
PeterB - Original
>
> > > > > Which shows the entire article is crap.
>
> > > > No markey, it doesn't.
>
> > > Yes, Petrid, it does.
>
> > Only in that soggy sponge you call a "brain."
>
> Spnges absord, your rock is impervious.
Your "spnge aborDs?" What is it "absording," formaldehyde?
> > > The article states: "The details of the
>
> > > > disruptive process are somewhat complex and not conducive for
> > > > explanation in a press release
>
> > > Of course the writer cannot relate it. If the human body is making
> > > tons of the stuff, what does a little more, or less do? Nada.
>
> > Ever heard of hemochromatosis?
>
> Yes.
Based on your earlier comment, you don't understand the relationship
of excess stored iron to the risk of additional exposure in some
people. And glycine, unlike iron, is not even a required nutrient.
IOW, you have no clue whether the glycine in vaccine could be a hazard
to some children and not others.
> > Ever heard of genetics?
>
> Yes.
Sure, but as we've seen from past "discussions" by you, that's the
limit of your "knowledge."
> Ever heard of
>
> > individual biochemistry?
>
> Yes.
But you have no clue what it means.
> > Ever read a book on science?
>
> Many, in high school and college.
What, 40 years ago? A lot has changed in 40 yrs. Many fine
scientists are published authors.
> Since then, I use primary
> sources. You don't.
No, markey, you don't use ANY sources, or you would cite and discuss
them. On rare occasion when you have posted an article, it was a
reference demonstrating your very limited knowledge of science
generally. I'm quite sure you've never read a single article in a
respected scientific Journal like The American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition or other such libraries of nutrition-based science.
> Oh, that's
>
> > right, you don't read books.
>
> Wrong. I do not rely on books, as you do, for science, as they can
> be unreliable nd subject to interpretation by the author, fact cherry
> picking by the author, etc.. I use primary sources, you don't.
Again, you aren't using anything or you would cite whatever it is you
are referring to. Your bogus claims, such as they are, cannot be
supported by anything other than badly designed studies whose data are
either inconclusive or meaningless.
> You don't even know what a vector is, do
>
> > you?
>
> Sure I do. In fact, we had this disucssion once before, and you
> resorted to your idiotsyncratic definitions.
I've never offered to define any word unless someone challenged my use
of it in the context of discussion. Assuming you did that, which I
seriously doubt, I'm quite certain the medical literature supported my
usage.
> > > ...Through the application of their
>
> > > > model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of SEVERAL
> > > > [emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic relationship of
> > > > each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario results in
> > > > autism." Thus, glycine was said to be just one of SEVERAL
> > > > variables.
>
> > > So? It is a naturally occuring amino acid, made by the human body...
>
> > WHOOOOOOSH!!
>
> Yes, I know the point escapes you.
>
> > >, and
> > > it varies in levels. What makes you "think" that the writer knows what
> > > he is talking about?
>
> > Unlike you, he hasn't made any errors in the logic used to discuss the
> > matter.
>
> According to you, not a reliable source.
I didn't say the information was vetted. Time will tell.
Bob Officer
I note their model doesn't explain why some children get ASD and
others do not.
It is at best an incomplete and high flawed model.
--
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au
PeterB - Original
> On Nov 20, 5:36 pm, PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 20, 3:48 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
>
> > > Scientific Link To Autism Identified
> > > Source: The Center for Modeling Optimal Outcomes LLC
> > > Article URL:http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
>
> > A modeling tool this accurate would completely revolutionize
> > epidemiology if it turns out to be true. Our resident pharmnuts have
> > predictably attacked the article without knowing all the facts.
> > Thanks for posting this.
>
> Actually, the points I posted totally refute what the writer
> says.
Making a fool of yourself is not the same as making points.
Perhaps you should leaarn how to read:
>
> "It's absorbed well in the gut (it's a pretty basic and versatile
> amino acid), too. And the bottom line is, the nervous system is far,
> far more complicated than, "Hey! Here's a little extra glycine today!
Yes, and the article says exactly that. Here it is:
"The details of the disruptive process are somewhat complex and not
conducive for explanation in a press release...Through the application
of their model, it became apparent that autism is an outcome of
SEVERAL [emphasis mine] variables that, when the homeostatic
relationship of each one is disrupted, a "perfect storm" scenario
results in autism." So, glycine was said to be just ONE of SEVERAL
variables. As a suggestion, you might try reading the text of the
posts you are responding to and at least pretend to have a clue.
> Let's all go haywire and redo everything! Even though our bodies
PeterB - Original
I found this article so interesting that I wanted to keep it going
until we know more.
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
19 Nov 2009
Also Appears In: Neurology / Neuroscience, Biology / Biochemistry.
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
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Jan Drew
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
for words.
I agree.
Jan Drew
Mark Probert
> Mark S Probert's
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fcebc6b4-8d85-4d89...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 20, 3:48 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Read this one today. It starts with several paragraphs of garbage
> scientific literature they discovered a cascade of hormones that
> huge
> surprise to all those endocrinologists out there."
>
> Later in her post, referring to glycine
>
> "It's absorbed well in the gut (it's a pretty basic and versatile
> amino acid), too. And the bottom line is, the nervous system is far,
> far more complicated than, "Hey! Here's a little extra glycine today!
> Let's all go haywire and redo everything! Even though our bodies make
> tons of this stuff anyway! And we need it!" Just doesn't work that
> way."
>
> ______________------------------------------------------------
>
> Yes. It's too ridiculous for words.
>
Jan Drew
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171457.php
19 Nov 2009
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I am not surprised you reposted Mark S Probert's post.
As you both are gang members and proven liars.
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz is a liar.
Jan Drew
liars.
Mark Probert
Jan Drew
http://www.torah.org/learning/pirkei-avos/chapter1-6b.html
G-d's Justice System
When we judge others, we are setting our own personal justice system.
If I am constantly finding fault and criticizing others, I send a
message to G-d. Shortcomings should be noticed and highlighted;
there's no room for mercy and tolerance. And G-d allows us to fashion
the very justice system with which He views us. If we see only the bad
in others, we bring upon ourselves the very judgment we, in our minds,
visit upon others daily.
http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=338
In the next portion of the midrash, the sages teach that it is fitting
for people to speak in clean, appropriate language:"
The words of Hashem are pure'...In the Torah, God chose to write eight
extra words in order to avoid using terminology which was not 100%
'clean. In the Book of Bereishit, for instance, Noach is told to
choose for the ark from among 'the pure cattle and from the cattle
that is not pure...' [- instead of referring to the latter group using
the Hebrew term for ritually impure beasts, "Tameh." ] In
disqualifying the rabbit as a pure animal, the Torah does not say that
the impurity derives from the fact that the rabbit does not have split
hooves, [though this is true] but rather that the rabbit is impure
because it [only] chews its cud. (Vaykira 11)" The clear message of
the midrash: when unpleasant things are uttered, they must be
expressed in the cleanest, most honorable manner possible.
When we talk about being careful about speech, we're talking about two
different issues. What to say, and how to say it.
First of all, it is important not to say things that need not be said.
When something is in need of being said, it should be expressed using
clean, appropriate language. I've mentioned on several occasions that
Rav Tzvi Yehuda Kook (of blessed memory) was very cautious with his
words, always carefully weighing what he had to say before he said it.
He would never say things in the negative, but would always couch his
ideas in positive terms.
Mark Probert
Happy Oyster
> Actually, all the gang members are harassers, hypocrties, and proven
>liars.
Yes, Jan Drew knows very well that she and her accomplices are an evil breed.
--
Die Medienmafia � Die Regividerm-Verschw�rung ... Hintergr�nde,
Fakten, Abenteurer...
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5710
Die Medienmafia � Klingelh�llers Rezeptur einer Salbe gegen
Neurodermitis
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5707
Mark Probert
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
Kevysmom
>
> Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
Is this a joke?
Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
happy New Year.
Mark Probert
> > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> Is this a joke?
No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
to use.
If she goes along, then I will not post negatively about her, to her,
etc. until she does.
> Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
> happy New Year.
Same here Donna.
Bob Officer
Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 20, 2:18�pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>>
>> > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>>
>> Is this a joke?
>
>No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not.
Jan will not because she can not.
>I
>will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
>she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
>her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
>decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
>to use.
>
>If she goes along, then I will not post negatively about her, to her,
>etc. until she does.
>
>
>> Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
>> happy New Year.
>
>Same here Donna.
Happy midwinters night to you, too.
dr_jeff
> On Dec 20, 2:18 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>>> Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>> Is this a joke?
>
> No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
> will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> to use.
>
> If she goes along, then I will not post negatively about her, to her,
> etc. until she does.
Remember when you were a kid and someone said something nasty and
replied, "I'm rubber, and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of
me and sticks to you"? Well, think that way here. The nasty things
people say here show what kind of people they are. For these types of
things, not saying anything highlights the person's true colors.
Plus, these nasty people are not worth your time.
>
>> Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
>> happy New Year.
>
> Same here Donna.
Same here.
Jeff
Kevysmom
>
> > > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> > > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> > Is this a joke?
>
> No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
> will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> to use.
YESSSSSSSSSS!! Thank you ((((((((Mark))))))))))) I just had to hug you
for that!
>
> If she goes along, then I will not post negatively about her, to her,
> etc. until she does.
She will, she is reasonable.
>
> > Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
> > happy New Year.
>
> Same here Donna.
Thank you, Mark
It was hell trying to find this post again, there are so many "In the
spirit of the season" threads! LOL
Kevysmom
> >> > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> >> Is this a joke?
>
> >No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not.
>
> Jan will not because she can not.
Quit being so negative!! ;o)
>
> >I
> >will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> >she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> >her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> >decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> >to use.
>
> >If she goes along, then I will not post negatively about her, to her,
> >etc. until she does.
>
> >> Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
> >> happy New Year.
>
> >Same here Donna.
>
> Happy midwinters night to you, too.
Okay, thats a new one on me, Thanks! :o)
Kevysmom
>
> Remember when you were a kid and someone said something nasty and
> replied, "I'm rubber, and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of
> me and sticks to you"? Well, think that way here. The nasty things
> people say here show what kind of people they are. For these types of
> things, not saying anything highlights the person's true colors.
>
> Plus, these nasty people are not worth your time.
I know that advice was aimed at Mark, But I need this advice, more
than you know.
> >> Merry Christmas to you all, and I wish you all good health and a safe,
> >> happy New Year.
>
> > Same here Donna.
>
> Same here.
Merry Christmas Jeff!! ;o)
Kevysmom
mainframetech
> On Nov 20, 3:48 am, "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Read this one today. It starts with several paragraphs of garbage
> scientific literature they discovered a cascade of hormones that
> huge
> surprise to all those endocrinologists out there."
>
> Later in her post, referring to glycine
>
> "It's absorbed well in the gut (it's a pretty basic and versatile
> amino acid), too. And the bottom line is, the nervous system is far,
> far more complicated than, "Hey! Here's a little extra glycine today!
> Let's all go haywire and redo everything! Even though our bodies make
> tons of this stuff anyway! And we need it!" Just doesn't work that
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL! The smell of fear pervades the forum when the true
underpinnings of Big Pharma become evident to all. It draws out all
the little soldier ants destined to die for their queens... :)
Chris
Mark Probert
What fear? Yours? Afraid that the "science" to support this "study" is
bullshit? It is.
The "study" was crap. is crap, and will remain crap. You fell for
their pseudo-science and hype, hook, line and stinker.
Try reading these articles for some learning:
pautrey2
&
Practicing W/O A License!
Felonies!
Mark Probert
> MD Impersonator
Incorrect. Once a degree is conferred on a person, they are entitled
to refer to the degree.
>
> &
>
> Practicing W/O A License!
There is no evidence that he either diagnoses or prescribes, which are
intrinsic aspects of *practising*.
You are quite incorrect.
But, Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
> > Jeff- Hide quoted text -
Jan Drew
> > > > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> > > > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> > > Is this a joke?
>
> > No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
> > will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> > she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> > her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> > decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> > to use.
>
> YESSSSSSSSSS!! Thank you ((((((((Mark))))))))))) I just had to hug you
> for that!
For telling lies? I have never assualted him or his family.
Wow, Donna, just where have you read that? Please use my words, not
Mark's.
Mark Probert
> On Dec 20, 11:37 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> > > > > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> > > > Is this a joke?
>
> > > No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
> > > will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> > > she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> > > her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> > > decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> > > to use.
>
> > YESSSSSSSSSS!! Thank you ((((((((Mark))))))))))) I just had to hug you
> > for that!
>
> For telling lies? I have never assualted him or his family.
>
> Wow, Donna, just where have you read that? Please use my words, not
> Mark's.
An assault need not be physical.
pautrey2
>
> - Show quoted text -
"...the deceitful words of Mark S. Probert, disbarred by the New
York Supreme Court in November, 1992."
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/propagandistprobert.html
Mark Probert
Jan Drew
>
> - Show quoted text -
Correct. I don't want anywhere near you.
The point is, I have never assulted you, or your family online.
Duh.
Jan Drew
> On Dec 18, 8:02�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Mark S Probert's
Thanks for admiting that Mark S Probert's post was just too
ridiculous
for words.
I agree.
Mark Probert
> On Dec 22, 8:40 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 22, 1:06 am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 20, 11:37 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
>
> > > > > > > Please join in the festivities and honor the cease fire.
>
> > > > > > Is this a joke?
>
> > > > > No. I have declared a cease fire with Jan. She can go along, or not. I
> > > > > will not post negatively about her, to her, etc. until Jan 2, 2010 if
> > > > > she does not go along. However, in this circumstance, if she continues
> > > > > her assualt on me and my family, I will re-evaluate my rules, and
> > > > > decide whether I will reply in kind, or show that skill set I have yet
> > > > > to use.
>
> > > > YESSSSSSSSSS!! Thank you ((((((((Mark))))))))))) I just had to hug you
> > > > for that!
>
> > > For telling lies? I have never assualted him or his family.
>
> > > Wow, Donna, just where have you read that? Please use my words, not
> > > Mark's.
>
> > An assault need not be physical.-
>
Aww, shucks!
> The point is, I have never assulted you, or your family online.
Wrong. Your assault is characterized by your repeated postings to and
about me, your responding to every one of my posts, you incessant
bringing my family into this newsgroup, etc.
>
> Duh.-
Now you are talking!
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
A joyous Kwanzaa to you!
Jan Drew
Mark Probert
> On Dec 18, 8:17 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 18, 8:02 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Mark S Probert's
>
> Thanks for admiting that Mark S Probert's post was just too
> ridiculous
> for words.
>
> I agree.
Your snipping left your comment dangling.
A joyous Kwanzaa to you.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!- Hide quoted text -
Jan Drew
> On Dec 18, 8:52�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Snip
Restore:
http://www.torah.org/learning/pirkei-avos/chapter1-6b.html
G-d's Justice System
http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=338
>
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Mark Probert
A Happy New Year and a Merry Xmas.
A joyous Kwanzaa!
Mark Probert
Jan Drew
> On Dec 21, 5:48�pm, pautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > � � � �MD Impersonator
>
> Incorrect. Once a degree is conferred on a person, they are entitled
> to refer to the degree.
But, it is a lie is they post they are a doc.
>
>
>
> > � � � � � � � � � &
>
> > Practicing W/O A License!
>
> There is no evidence that he either diagnoses or prescribes, which are
> intrinsic aspects of *practising*.
>
> You are quite incorrect.
No, you are.
You do nothing but prove I am 100% correct the gang sticks together.
And lie for each other. Since you do not believe in alternative
medicine. You are in the wrong group. But, then--if is proven you
have an insane need to argue.
But remained silent when disbarred. Must be because you never won a
case while being dishonest.
>
> But, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
dr_jeff
> On Dec 21, 8:21�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 21, 5:48�pm, pautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> � � � �MD Impersonator
>> Incorrect. Once a degree is conferred on a person, they are entitled
>> to refer to the degree.
>
> But, it is a lie is they post they are a doc.
When did they post that they are a doc?
Jan Drew
I posted:
Mark Probert
> On Dec 21, 8:21 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 21, 5:48 pm, pautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > MD Impersonator
>
> > Incorrect. Once a degree is conferred on a person, they are entitled
> > to refer to the degree.
>
> But, it is a lie is they post they are a doc.
As he is entitled to do.
> > > &
>
> > > Practicing W/O A License!
>
> > There is no evidence that he either diagnoses or prescribes, which are
> > intrinsic aspects of *practising*.
>
> > You are quite incorrect.
>
> No, you are.
No, you are.
>
> You do nothing but prove I am 100% correct the gang sticks together.
I stick to the facts. You just do not understand them.
> And lie for each other. Since you do not believe in alternative
> medicine. You are in the wrong group. But, then--if is proven you
> have an insane need to argue.
No, I do not have that need.
However, a Joyous Kwanzaa.
Bob Officer
Jan Drew <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Dec 21, 8:21?pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 21, 5:48?pm, pautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > ? ? ? ?MD Impersonator
>>
>> Incorrect. Once a degree is conferred on a person, they are entitled
>> to refer to the degree.
>
>But, it is a lie is they post they are a doc.
Jan the logic must escape you. (silly me thinking Jan has the ability
to understand logic) having the degree, makes him a doc. Not
practicing medicine doesn't stop him from being a doc. Many Teaching
doctors in university are not practicing or licensed practitioners.
It doesn't stop them from being a doc.
>> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? &
>>
>> > Practicing W/O A License!
>>
>> There is no evidence that he either diagnoses or prescribes, which are
>> intrinsic aspects of *practising*.
>>
>> You are quite incorrect.
>
>No, you are.
Jan, you are wrong. but then no matter how many times you are
instructed with facts, it seems to escape you. Were you this dense
when you were younger?
>You do nothing but prove I am 100% correct the gang sticks together.
>And lie for each other. Since you do not believe in alternative
>medicine. You are in the wrong group. But, then--if is proven you
>have an insane need to argue.
Sorry, This is not a pro-only group. no where in its charter does it
so state. If you want a pro-only group, go ask for one. Timmay is
over there --> @Bambi club house. Tell him I sent you. You do know he
is the person in charge of usenet, now?
>But remained silent when disbarred. Must be because you never won a
>case while being dishonest.
Sometimes Silence is the better part of valor. Try it sometimes.
You know the Bible in several places admonishes all women to be
silent. Try it sometime.
>> But, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
--
pautrey2
>
> - Show quoted text -
Killer,
Felony!
Clink!
Clank!
Jan Drew
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:35:16 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
>
Wromg post lies and spam.