I have a 10 week old daughter who is exclusively breastfed. She has a bad case of oral thrush - I have been giving her Nystatin drops for 10 days and if anything the thrush has got worse over that time. I am using cream on myself and as far as I can tell I'm clear of the thrush.
She's been really grumpy over the last 25 hours, hasn't slept as well and is demanding feeding a lot more often, which I'm doing. I put her to the breast and she fusses, pulls away after a few deep sucks and seems uncomfortable. I'm not sure if this is down to the thrush or if she's having a growth spurt.
I am planning on seeing the doctor on Monday to see if there is an alternative medication that she can have to clear up the thrush but is there anything I can do now? I am reluctant to give her Calpol but if she screams through the night I will. I am assuming that teething gels will only make matters worse?
> I have a 10 week old daughter who is exclusively breastfed. She has a bad > case of oral thrush - I have been giving her Nystatin drops for 10 days > and if anything the thrush has got worse over that time. I am using cream > on myself and as far as I can tell I'm clear of the thrush.
> She's been really grumpy over the last 25 hours, hasn't slept as well and > is demanding feeding a lot more often, which I'm doing. I put her to the > breast and she fusses, pulls away after a few deep sucks and seems > uncomfortable. I'm not sure if this is down to the thrush or if she's > having a growth spurt.
> I am planning on seeing the doctor on Monday to see if there is an > alternative medication that she can have to clear up the thrush but is > there anything I can do now? I am reluctant to give her Calpol but if she > screams through the night I will. I am assuming that teething gels will > only make matters worse?
If you can find a health food store, you can get acidopholus capsules, break them open and let your baby suck the powder off your finger one or two times a day - acidopholus is the "good bacteria" that help fight off yeast infections and generally live in the gut. You can also try to find Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE), and use a solution of 10-20 drops in an ounce of distilled water and swab it in her mouth with a Q-tip once an hour while she's awake. Both of these things are supposed to topically kill off the yeast and fungus in the mouth. But NEITHER worked for me - I am in my 9th or 10th week of dealing with thrush, and have tried many, many things so far, including Gentian Violet (GV), which seemed to work at first, and then stopped. Pretty much everything seemed to work at first but then stopped. I wish you better luck, because this is a real pain!
> I have a 10 week old daughter who is exclusively breastfed. She has a bad > case of oral thrush - I have been giving her Nystatin drops for 10 days and > if anything the thrush has got worse over that time. I am using cream on > myself and as far as I can tell I'm clear of the thrush.
> She's been really grumpy over the last 25 hours, hasn't slept as well and is > demanding feeding a lot more often, which I'm doing. I put her to the > breast and she fusses, pulls away after a few deep sucks and seems > uncomfortable. I'm not sure if this is down to the thrush or if she's > having a growth spurt.
> I am planning on seeing the doctor on Monday to see if there is an > alternative medication that she can have to clear up the thrush but is there > anything I can do now? I am reluctant to give her Calpol but if she screams > through the night I will. I am assuming that teething gels will only make > matters worse?
> morag
What I found most helpful with thrush was in conjunction with using the chemical treatments was to cut out as much sugar as possible out of my diet. This was hard with a young baby as I tended to eat ahem... a fair bit of chocolate. However this was the only thing that seemed to work. I had several bouts of thrush and at the end I would not use medication at all but just eat no sugar for a week or so.
What helped us was in conjuntion with the meds I started washing all laundry in hot water with vinegar in the final rinse cycle. Plus I started using dandruff shampoo on me. Doing those things helps kill off all the yeast growing in the environment and giving off spores which makes it alot easier for you all to actually beat the thrush.
I had alot of trouble beating thrush before I tried these things, and it just poof went away like magic once I started doing these things.
Many thanks for the hints and tips - I will be buying the acidophilus tablets or capsules for myself to try ro get rid of this thrush.
I spoke to a doctor who is prescribing a gel rather than drops, and i've heard it's a more effective treatment. I am also a bit of a chocoholic and will do my very best to cut down, promise!
> I have a 10 week old daughter who is exclusively breastfed. She has a bad > case of oral thrush - I have been giving her Nystatin drops for 10 days > and if anything the thrush has got worse over that time. I am using cream > on myself and as far as I can tell I'm clear of the thrush.
> She's been really grumpy over the last 25 hours, hasn't slept as well and > is demanding feeding a lot more often, which I'm doing. I put her to the > breast and she fusses, pulls away after a few deep sucks and seems > uncomfortable. I'm not sure if this is down to the thrush or if she's > having a growth spurt.
> I am planning on seeing the doctor on Monday to see if there is an > alternative medication that she can have to clear up the thrush but is > there anything I can do now? I am reluctant to give her Calpol but if she > screams through the night I will. I am assuming that teething gels will > only make matters worse?
> Many thanks for the hints and tips - I will be buying the acidophilus > tablets or capsules for myself to try ro get rid of this thrush.
> I spoke to a doctor who is prescribing a gel rather than drops, and i've > heard it's a more effective treatment. I am also a bit of a chocoholic > and will do my very best to cut down, promise!
> Morag
Nystatin was rubbish for me.. Daktarin Orange flavoured oral gel is fantastic.. works really quickly and tastes nice.
Andrea mom of 5 and final addition Erin Elizabeth 11 days old..
> Many thanks for the hints and tips - I will be buying the acidophilus > tablets or capsules for myself to try ro get rid of this thrush.
> I spoke to a doctor who is prescribing a gel rather than drops, and i've > heard it's a more effective treatment. I am also a bit of a chocoholic and > will do my very best to cut down, promise!
> Morag
The first five days without sugar are the worst. After that the urge to drop by the candybox diminishes a lot.
Andrea S wrote: > "Morag in Oxford" wrote in message ...
>>Many thanks for the hints and tips - I will be buying the acidophilus >>tablets or capsules for myself to try ro get rid of this thrush.
>>I spoke to a doctor who is prescribing a gel rather than drops, and i've >>heard it's a more effective treatment. I am also a bit of a chocoholic >>and will do my very best to cut down, promise!
>>Morag
> Nystatin was rubbish for me.. Daktarin Orange flavoured oral gel is > fantastic.. works really quickly and tastes nice.
Took 3 weeks to work the first time, and only worked for 3 days for me the second time (current). Think I'll just live with it! Does anyone know what thrush rash looks like under baby's neck/chest?
> Took 3 weeks to work the first time, and only worked for 3 days for me the > second time (current). Think I'll just live with it! Does anyone know > what thrush rash looks like under baby's neck/chest?
> Jo
Alexander got a yeast rash in his neck folds & armpit creases. It looked like a white discharge & if you wiped that away it was red underneath. Sometimes the creases would bleed a little. First I tried Lotrimin, an over-the-counter fungal treatment. Then I tried two drops of tea tree oil in 1/4 cup of almond oil, which my midwife recommended. When I went to the doctor I was given Nystatin, which worked & then stopped working. What finally worked was putting a bit of Caldasene powder on my hand and wiping it in the creases so that they would definitely stay dry. Now it isn't a problem.
Jo wrote: > Took 3 weeks to work the first time, and only worked for 3 days for me > the second time (current). Think I'll just live with it! Does anyone > know what thrush rash looks like under baby's neck/chest?
My baby had a yeast infection on her ear and behind it. It looks like really dry skin, but lotion doesn't help. She cried when I messed with it, so I figure it was painful. I was afraid it was eczema at first. When we took her to the doctor for The Cold That Will Never End (she's had it since 10/21!), he said to try clortrimazole (Lotrimin), and it cleared it up within a couple days.
> Both of these things are supposed to topically kill off the > yeast and fungus in the mouth.
Yeast IS a fungus.
> But NEITHER worked for me - I am in my 9th > or 10th week of dealing with thrush, and have tried many, many things so > far, including Gentian Violet (GV), which seemed to work at first, and then > stopped. Pretty much everything seemed to work at first but then stopped.
Are you trying the various remedies sequentially or all at the same time?
>> Both of these things are supposed to topically kill off the yeast and >> fungus in the mouth.
> Yeast IS a fungus.
>> But NEITHER worked for me - I am in my 9th or 10th week of dealing with >> thrush, and have tried many, many things so far, including Gentian Violet >> (GV), which seemed to work at first, and then stopped. Pretty much >> everything seemed to work at first but then stopped.
> Are you trying the various remedies sequentially or all at the same time?
Mostly sequntially. Tried (for dd):
-Nystatin alone -Diflucan alone for 2 weeks, then tried acidopholus powder and GSE swab while still taking Diflucan for another week (I also started on acidopholus during the Diflucan trial) -Nystatin again alone (Though I continue to take acidopholus throughout) -GV 1% solution in dd's mouth while I continued with just vinegar rinses and lotrimin lotion on my nipples -GV 2% solution on us both -Now am back to Nystatin, as it is what has seemed to work the best - I am now swabbing it into her mouth on her tongue etc rather than using the dropper to put in a whole lot. I'm trying to get it to her 4-6 times a day (or more), as the more frequently you use it, the more effective it is supposed to be.
So - any thoughts, given the above info? I am all ears!
> So - any thoughts, given the above info? I am all ears!
I would combine treatments - gentian violet AND clotrimazole on the nipples, while ALSO treating with nystatin, GSE and maybe Diflucan. If you can get the live, refrigerated acidophilus from a health food store, or get plain organic yogurt, it'll probably work better than the dry powder form.
You may already be doing these, but also important: cutting back on sugar in your diet, washing everything that comes in contact with the affected areas with hot water and vinegar, and avoid using Lansinoh on the nipples.
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