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IMAGINE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE UNDER THE CLINTON "MANDADTE" PLAN

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com...@webtv.net

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Sep 17, 2007, 4:03:12 PM9/17/07
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under hilary clintons plan, you would be FORCED to buy health insurance,
just like states force people to have car insurance now... you would be
arrested if you could not afford to have health insurance...
and the cost would SKYROCKET !
when indiana swtched to MANDATORY car insurance, my payment for full
coverage went from $62.50 every six months to $1200.00 dollars every six
months in about 3 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is because the insurance was MANDATORY and the insurance companies
knew they could charge anything they dam well wanted for a polocy....and
they did and still do. many people cannot afford to drive any more.


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Charlie Perrin

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Sep 17, 2007, 11:33:37 PM9/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:03:12 -0400, com...@webtv.net wrote:

>under hilary clintons plan, you would be FORCED to buy health insurance,
>just like states force people to have car insurance now... you would be
>arrested if you could not afford to have health insurance...

If they're anything like RomneyCare (what they have in Taxachusetts)
it's a $1000 fine. You can probably get something catastrophic for
that much.

>when indiana swtched to MANDATORY car insurance, my payment for full
>coverage went from $62.50 every six months to $1200.00 dollars every six
>months in about 3 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably the only people who carried it when it wasn't mandatory were
good drivers. All the lousy ones did without.

>that is because the insurance was MANDATORY and the insurance companies
>knew they could charge anything they dam well wanted for a polocy....and
>they did and still do. many people cannot afford to drive any more.

The fact there are mutual companies keep the profit-making ones
honest.

I like those occasional dividend checks from my mutual.

Doug

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Sep 18, 2007, 12:36:36 AM9/18/07
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I wonder if whatever enforcement mechanism they use to MAKE you pay
for the insurance is going to get a Supreme Court Challenge. Just
where in the Constitution does the Federal Government get the power to
force it's citizens to buy health insurance???

Charlie Perrin

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Sep 18, 2007, 12:52:23 AM9/18/07
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:36:36 -0700, Doug wrote:

>I wonder if whatever enforcement mechanism they use to MAKE
>you pay for the insurance is going to get a Supreme Court
>Challenge.

Not only will the funding mechanism will be challenged, just about
every paragraph will be challenged. You can start with Catholics (or
at least the ones who toe the party line) challenging payment for
contraception and pro-lifers challenging payment for abortion.

>Just where in the Constitution does the Federal Government get
>the power to force it's citizens to buy health insurance???

Remember: HillaryCare 2.0 will be brought to you by the same people
who brought you the Federal Insurance Contributions Act.

tom418

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Sep 18, 2007, 9:15:39 AM9/18/07
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And in Taxachusetts, just like with Hillarycare, the sick pay the same
premiums as the healthy people do. But that's what we expect from the
Commonwealth (read your wealth is my wealth) of Massachusetts.

And Hillary's comparison with auto insurance is flawed. Her proposal
prohibits turning away insureds due to pre-existing conditions. Would I be
able to sign up with a new auto insurance company, and make them pay for a
car accident I had six years ago? I think not.
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adam russell

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Sep 18, 2007, 11:09:45 AM9/18/07
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You think they may take it straight out of your paycheck?


Dr Tormento

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Sep 18, 2007, 1:05:12 PM9/18/07
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Charlie Perrin <nikv...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> Not only will the funding mechanism will be challenged, just about
> every paragraph will be challenged. You can start with Catholics (or
> at least the ones who toe the party line) challenging payment for
> contraception and pro-lifers challenging payment for abortion.

Don't Christian Scientists oppose most medical care?
As far as the analogy to car insurance goes, it doesn't wash. You can
choose to avoid buying car insurance by not driving, but alternatives to
living are inconvenient.

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 18, 2007, 1:05:34 PM9/18/07
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hey chalie, what happens to you if you can't afford to pay the 1000
dollar fine up there in "taxachsettes" ? at least you could get to meet
OJ in the prison system....

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 18, 2007, 1:13:31 PM9/18/07
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adam, i think they will take it out of everyones checks, bank accouts,
etc...
but if you are paying 300 dollars a month now for a cheap health
insurance policy, if it does anything near what car isurance did all
over the country when it went "MANDATORY", you could be looking at 3,000
to 6,000 dollars a month taken from your check, ....or prison time, your
choice.
by the way, Barak Obama's health care plan is "not mandatory" and no one
would be punished for not paying up.....

Charlie Perrin

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Sep 19, 2007, 12:05:01 AM9/19/07
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:05:12 GMT, Dr Tormento wrote:

>Charlie Perrin wrote:

>> Not only will the funding mechanism will be challenged, just about
>> every paragraph will be challenged. You can start with Catholics (or
>> at least the ones who toe the party line) challenging payment for
>> contraception and pro-lifers challenging payment for abortion.

> Don't Christian Scientists oppose most medical care?

I don't know about all medical insurance, but mine has an alternative
therapy clause for Christian Scientists.

Charlie Perrin

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Sep 19, 2007, 12:17:41 AM9/19/07
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:13:31 -0400, com...@webtv.net wrote:

>but if you are paying 300 dollars a month now for a cheap health
>insurance policy, if it does anything near what car isurance did all
>over the country when it went "MANDATORY", you could be looking
>at 3,000 to 6,000 dollars a month taken from your check

That amount would make health care about 35% of GNP.

>....or prison time, your choice.

Then you wouldn't have to worry about health care, it's considered
cruel and unusual punishment not to take care of the prisoners.

>by the way, Barak Obama's health care plan is "not mandatory" and no one
>would be punished for not paying up.....

And you'll continue to have EMTALA cost-shifting. We need to come up
with a health care system that keeps the uninsured out of ERs.
Probably the best way would be to get rid of the uninsured.

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 19, 2007, 8:04:08 PM9/19/07
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charli...now you are getting to the point....."get rid of the
uninsured"...
now you see one reason how the soviet union and red china killed 100
million of their own people...."they didn't fit into the plans".......
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