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Thurston Howell IV

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Dec 5, 2007, 5:08:55 PM12/5/07
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Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)

FrediFizzx

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Dec 5, 2007, 5:30:09 PM12/5/07
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"Thurston Howell IV" <thow...@later.com> wrote in message
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> Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
> is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)

Well, too bad you feel that way as you will miss out on a good bull
market run. 4Q guidance has been reduced quite a bit. Expect many
earning surprises starting in Jan. then we are off to going up a bunch
again. The worse that is likely to happen is that the market will be
down a little bit for much of 2008. There is no crash in sight at all.

Fred

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca

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Dec 5, 2007, 5:48:44 PM12/5/07
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On Dec 5, 5:30 pm, "FrediFizzx" <fredifi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Thurston Howell IV" <thowel...@later.com> wrote in messagenews:198el3126tm7gls59...@4ax.com...

>
> > Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
> > is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)
>
> Well, too bad you feel that way as you will miss out on a good bull
> market run. 4Q guidance has been reduced quite a bit. Expect many
> earning surprises starting in Jan. then we are off to going up a bunch
> again. The worse that is likely to happen is that the market will be
> down a little bit for much of 2008. There is no crash in sight at all.
>
> Fred

Freddy, nothing personal, but how come you never saw:

10% down for market
40% down for financials
300# weight gain by your fat assed wife??????

You sir have zero cred on this ng so wheelbarrow wifey over to jenny
craigs and STFU

com...@webtv.net

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Dec 5, 2007, 5:49:20 PM12/5/07
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watch some reruns of NASCAR races.
that is the only way you are going to see a "big crash" :)

"Fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way"

lubow

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Dec 5, 2007, 6:39:55 PM12/5/07
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Sorry, pal but history is betting against you. It is true the General
Market (as the late Harry Browne put it) can outlast any government for the
long term. For the short term, however, say January to Election Day, it is
no big deal for the party in power to manipulate the markets into bullish
mode. We have already seen the results of this type of maneuvering in that
the Bank of Canada lowered interest rates to keep the loonie at parity or
slightly below. I'm sure a phone call from Washington to Ottawa had a lot
to do with the Bank of Canada's change in policy.

--
Lubow
To see my stock picks go to www.stockpickr.com Enter lubow in
Portfolio/Stock box


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lubow

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Dec 5, 2007, 6:41:08 PM12/5/07
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We don't agree on most things, Mr. Comics, but I agree with you on this one.
There is no way a crash can occur in a presidential election year.

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Lubow
To see my stock picks go to www.stockpickr.com Enter lubow in
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FrediFizzx

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Dec 5, 2007, 8:33:45 PM12/5/07
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"lubow" <lu...@lubow-industries.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, pal but history is betting against you. It is true the General
> Market (as the late Harry Browne put it) can outlast any government
> for the long term. For the short term, however, say January to
> Election Day, it is no big deal for the party in power to manipulate
> the markets into bullish mode. We have already seen the results of
> this type of maneuvering in that the Bank of Canada lowered interest
> rates to keep the loonie at parity or slightly below. I'm sure a
> phone call from Washington to Ottawa had a lot to do with the Bank of
> Canada's change in policy.

Well, you don't know that for a fact (a phone call). It IS in Canada's
own best interest to not let their currency get too high relative to the
US. They did do the right thing for their own good. The Europeans will
be following soon.

Fred

com...@webtv.net

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:12:00 AM12/6/07
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ya can't have a recession when the GNP is growing either.

qwest602000

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Dec 6, 2007, 8:39:34 AM12/6/07
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On Dec 5, 3:39 pm, "lubow" <lu...@lubow-industries.com> wrote:
> Sorry, pal but history is betting against you. It is true the General
> Market (as the late Harry Browne put it) can outlast any government for the
> long term. For the short term, however, say January to Election Day, it is
> no big deal for the party in power to manipulate the markets into bullish
> mode. We have already seen the results of this type of maneuvering in that
> the Bank of Canada lowered interest rates to keep the loonie at parity or
> slightly below. I'm sure a phone call from Washington to Ottawa had a lot
> to do with the Bank of Canada's change in policy.
>
> --
> Lubow
> To see my stock picks go towww.stockpickr.comEnter lubow in
> Portfolio/Stock box
>
> "Thurston Howell IV" <thowel...@later.com> wrote in messagenews:198el3126tm7gls59...@4ax.com...

>
>
>
> > Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
> > is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

when it is perceived tha thillary will win president, it is all over.

HomeRunStrategy

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Dec 6, 2007, 9:00:17 AM12/6/07
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On Dec 6, 7:39 am, qwest602000 <qwest602...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 3:39 pm, "lubow" <lu...@lubow-industries.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sorry, pal but history is betting against you. It is true the General
> > Market (as the late Harry Browne put it) can outlast any government for the
> > long term. For the short term, however, say January to Election Day, it is
> > no big deal for the party in power to manipulate the markets into bullish
> > mode. We have already seen the results of this type of maneuvering in that
> > the Bank of Canada lowered interest rates to keep the loonie at parity or
> > slightly below. I'm sure a phone call from Washington to Ottawa had a lot
> > to do with the Bank of Canada's change in policy.
>
> > --
> > Lubow
> > To see my stock picks go towww.stockpickr.comEnterlubow in

> > Portfolio/Stock box
>
> > "Thurston Howell IV" <thowel...@later.com> wrote in messagenews:198el3126tm7gls59...@4ax.com...
>
> > > Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
> > > is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> when it is perceived tha thillary will win president, it is all over.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

GNP is meaningless, it is a manipulated statistic. A high near X-mas
sideways to down for a few months and then mid march a bear market
begins. A prolonged bear market. They are just trying to fight if
off long enough to get past the primaries. I doubt they can hold it
to the general election but we wil see. If they can 2008 will be
slightly down and Feb 2009 a major crash. But, I'm betting the first
scenario.

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca

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Dec 6, 2007, 11:01:45 AM12/6/07
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every cancer victim increases GDP
each foreclosure raises GDP
war raises GDP
But, market crashes do not decrease GDP
market increases do increase GDP

Comic is the worse runner in the stock picking contest, however, he is
the best nose picker in
his trailer park.
America is fucked, stick the fork in, wall street found a way to fuck
main street and put them into
cardboard boxes instead of homes.

ausound

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Jan 5, 2008, 6:01:05 AM1/5/08
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Thurston Howell IV <thow...@later.com> wrote in
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> Have fun in the markets until the end of December cause when Christmas
> is over....IT'S ALL OVER. :)
>
>

Monday/Tuesday we'll know if it's your new year's crash or just some of the
year end window dressing selling off

mids & low caps have over shot their support to the low side
I think the snap back could be hugely profitable for a smart stock picker

TATrader

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Jan 5, 2008, 7:10:21 PM1/5/08
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:01:05 -0000, ausound <aus...@spambog.com>
wrote:

I am bearish, however I did buy a tech stock to flip in case of a snap
back. I went in with low exposure, because I wasn't very confident
that the snap back will occur.

com...@webtv.net

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Jan 5, 2008, 8:20:57 PM1/5/08
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the only crash you will see is in a nascar race, bozo.

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca

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Jan 6, 2008, 1:20:58 AM1/6/08
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On Jan 5, 8:20 pm, com...@webtv.net wrote:
> the only crash you will see is in a nascar race, bozo.
>
> "Fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Gay"

Fuck.
Its 100% certain to crash, burn and die. Mr.Comics, the gay
cheerleader for the stox
market is always 100% wrong. He was born into the wrong body so
needed surgery to
remove the miniscule penis he never got to use.
Explain, oh clown of assclowns comics, what a triple bottom looks
like, and not that
fat bulging ass your mom shows to the paper boy, but in the stock
market.

Triple bottom, there is none, its a dive right after. Market will go
down like comics
at a gay bar.

ausound

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Jan 9, 2008, 2:40:35 AM1/9/08
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TATrader <tatr...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Lots of indicators have hit their support
I think we see a nice rebound

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca

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Jan 9, 2008, 6:07:27 AM1/9/08
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> > I am bearish, however I did buy a tech stock to flip in case of a snap
> > back. I went in with low exposure, because I wasn't very confident
> > that the snap back will occur.
>
> Lots of indicators have hit their support
> I think we see a nice rebound

yes, buy financials like cfc and etfc.
the dow is only 1600 points from its high, and in a declining trend,
why should you worry,
double or triple down, get a subprime mort and invest.
THE ECONOMY IS SOUND

com...@webtv.net

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Jan 9, 2008, 2:21:36 PM1/9/08
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i have read the exact same stupid post from other idiots like you for
the past ten years.....

"Fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way"

lubow

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Jan 9, 2008, 5:03:00 PM1/9/08
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And if it does crash, guess what happens next?

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Jan 9, 2008, 5:32:30 PM1/9/08
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On Jan 9, 2:03 pm, "lubow" <lu...@lubow-industries.com> wrote:
> And if it does crash, guess what happens next?

Which is why the government manipulates the markets so it doesn't.

But once Countrywide goes under, look out!!

Mike

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca

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Jan 9, 2008, 6:59:43 PM1/9/08
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Markets collapse, banks go with them, and the global depression which
is not due until
2009 begins. Depressions run in 80 year cycles, recessions run in 8
year cycles,
yup, the train is right on time.

com...@webtv.net

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Jan 9, 2008, 7:13:47 PM1/9/08
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lubow meant,in my opinion, that after a market crash, those stocks go
back UP !
there is no reason the market would crash. the economy is too strong.
DOW up today over 150 points.

TATrader

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Jan 25, 2008, 6:31:04 AM1/25/08
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On Jan 9, 3:07 am, "Bill<NOSPAM>Gr...@gmail.ca"

As I said, I am very biased towards bearish. I felt we were over-sold,
so I said I bought in with low exposure since market crashes usually
happen from over-sold. Turns out the buy signal was right:

10-Jan-08 1,406.78 1,429.09 1,395.31 1,420.33 5,170,490,000 1,420.33
9-Jan-08 1,390.25 1,409.19 1,378.70 1,409.13 5,351,030,000 1,409.13
8-Jan-08 1,415.71 1,430.28 1,388.30 1,390.19 4,705,390,000 1,390.19

Ta-da!

Financials are too volatile right now to interest me, so note the tech
stock. Also, the overplayed goog, rimm, solar, and aapl are also too
richly valued for me, so I didn't say I bought a momentum tech stock.

GOOG - scary cuz mortgage bizareness drove their earnings (agreeing
with the bizweek(?) article that said same)
AAPL - consumer spending exposures
RIMM - consumer and biz spending exposure
solar - overplayed, but no clear winning biz plans that I agree with.

Soon to be bearish again, this bear bounce has had its time in the
sun.

Looking to short BZH, COF, and GYMB at good entrypoint. Looking to
long SRS and SKF as well.

HomeRunStrategy

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Jan 25, 2008, 6:43:23 AM1/25/08
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Hilarious!! I bet you wish you wouldn't have written that. Back in
early December all of us on this thread told you the market had topped
and a crash was comming.

The only reason we didn't have a meltdown is because bernanke paniced
and inflated the currency.
Get ready for another round of inflation and the dollar to make new
lows.

Ron PAul said months ago in a Faux news debate this was comming. Geez
it was broadcast on national TV while the other talking heads were
bloaviating. They still haven't figured out that it is the Foreing
policy that is the source of the problem with the economy. This will
be one for the history books on the ability of people not to see the
obvious because they simply don't want to admit there is a problem and
admit they caused it by stupid and immoral decisions. AKA the Iraq
War, 11 Billion a month and counting. Not to mention defending 130
nations at taxpayers childrens expense while we don't defend our own
borders.

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