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704set

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Sep 4, 2007, 6:40:52 PM9/4/07
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There are several things that we can stipulate with some degree of
certainty: namely, that those who argue that we are already in a recession .
are reasonably certain to be wrong.

Alan Greenspan
Federal Open Market Committee, 21 August 1990

According to the National Bureau of Economic Research we entered a two
recession in July, 1990.

http://www.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html

704set


CJT

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Sep 4, 2007, 10:58:14 PM9/4/07
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704set wrote:
> There are several things that we can stipulate with some degree of
> certainty: namely, that those who argue that we are already in a recession .
> are reasonably certain to be wrong.
>

Bush's policies induced a recession almost immediately upon his taking
office.

But there has been a huge amount of stimulus (e.g. huge increases in the
national debt and artificially low interest rates) applied to make it
look like we've been in prosperous times.

As the wag once said, "Give me a few trillion dollars to blow through
and I can make times look pretty good, too."

> Alan Greenspan
> Federal Open Market Committee, 21 August 1990
>
> According to the National Bureau of Economic Research we entered a two
> recession in July, 1990.
>
> http://www.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html
>
> 704set
>
>


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704set

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Sep 5, 2007, 6:39:28 AM9/5/07
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The economy slows down first, then goes into a recession. Please explain
specific policies pushed by Bush between 1/20/01 and 3/1/01 that caused the
economy to slow down and eventually go into a recession?

704set

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Lawyerkill

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Sep 5, 2007, 6:57:40 AM9/5/07
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On Sep 5, 6:39?am, "704set" <704set@no_email.com> wrote:
> The economy slows down first, then goes into a recession. Please explain
> specific policies pushed by Bush between 1/20/01 and 3/1/01 that caused the
> economy to slow down and eventually go into a recession?
>
> 704set

The economy and the market started its decline before Bush was even in
office.

704set

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Sep 5, 2007, 6:23:33 PM9/5/07
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My point exactly.

704set


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com...@webtv.net

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Sep 5, 2007, 8:31:09 PM9/5/07
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what policies of george bush "as soon as he took office", caused a
recesion that does not exist 6 years later? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

A Liberal is "just a Communist in a Free Country" !

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 5, 2007, 8:34:16 PM9/5/07
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but CJT is a socialist , so he doen't have to make sense....socialists
just repeat left wing slogans not kowing what they mean. kinda like
monkey that could talk.

CJT

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Sep 5, 2007, 9:39:50 PM9/5/07
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The market often anticipates bad news.

CJT

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Sep 5, 2007, 9:40:25 PM9/5/07
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com...@webtv.net wrote:

Things like ignoring Al Quaeda.

CJT

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Sep 5, 2007, 9:42:43 PM9/5/07
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704set wrote:

> The economy slows down first, then goes into a recession. Please explain
> specific policies pushed by Bush between 1/20/01 and 3/1/01 that caused the
> economy to slow down and eventually go into a recession?
>
> 704set

For instance ...

He bad-mouthed the economy during his campaign in an attempt to score
political points.

Once in office, he stopped pursuing terrorists.

And he put idiot after idiot in positions of power.

CJT

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Sep 5, 2007, 9:43:42 PM9/5/07
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com...@webtv.net wrote:

You have no idea what you're spewing about.

Charlie Perrin

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Sep 5, 2007, 11:07:45 PM9/5/07
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:57:40 -0700, Lawyerkill wrote:

>The economy and the market started its decline before Bush was even in
>office.

My late father said whoever got elected in 2000 would be blamed for
the state of the economy. He was already aware it was going down.

Another late family friend blamed Montgomery Wards shutting down on
Bush'e election... forgetting that the man hadn't taken office yet.
Now that I think about it, maybe Bush did them in as Governor of
Texas.

GoForward

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Sep 5, 2007, 11:45:40 PM9/5/07
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And slimy fascists like "Comics" will keep tossing out the same lies
over and over on the premise that if he does it enough times someone
will eventually be conned into believing them (like the one that
fascists
such as himself are the True American Patriots).

Lawyerkill

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Sep 6, 2007, 4:57:48 AM9/6/07
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On Sep 5, 9:39?pm, CJT <abujl...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> 704set wrote:
> > My point exactly.
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> > 704set
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In March of 2000? Yeah you have a case.

704set

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Sep 6, 2007, 6:41:32 AM9/6/07
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"CJT" <abuj...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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We are not talking about the market, but the economy. It went into a
recession in March, 2001. What exactly did Bush do in 6 weeks that made the
economy hit a brick wall?

And you are right. The market does discount bad news. The market turned
down in 2000, possibly anticipating a recession in 2001. Clinton was in
office in 2000. So the groundwork was laid a year before Bush came to
office.

704set


704set

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Sep 6, 2007, 6:45:06 AM9/6/07
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And bad mouthing the economy caused it to go into a recession?
By stopping the pursuit of terrorists caused the economy to go into a
recession?
He appointed idiot after idiot, but the only single person who could
influence the economy was Greenspan.

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704set

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Sep 6, 2007, 6:46:30 AM9/6/07
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"CJT" <abuj...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> com...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> what policies of george bush "as soon as he took office", caused a
>> recesion that does not exist 6 years later? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha A
>> Liberal is "just a Communist in a Free Country" !
>>
> Things like ignoring Al Quaeda.

Al Qaeda caused the recession!!!

THOSE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

704set


com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 9:46:31 AM9/6/07
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you post about montgomery wards reminds me of the left wing kooks who
blame george bush for the 9-11 attacks.
both legal systems in germany and spain arrested about 50 terrorists for
helping the 9-11 hijackers launch the attacks. both germany and spain
lost about 100 people each that day in the trade towers. so they proved
that the terrorists were planning and training for those attacks for
about 2 years. the problem is that george bush took office only a few
mnths before the attacks took pace and he came into a whitehouse that ad
its computers sabotoged by the clintons and was not even allowed into
the whitehouse complex until way afer he was elected,unlike all the
presidents before him.

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 9:49:43 AM9/6/07
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and socialists like "goforwards" who should really be called
"gobackwards" aka soviet union, will call ANYONE who disagrees with
their radical socialist agenda a "fascist"....i have heard these kooks
call many left wing liberals "hiltlers" because the liberal did not
TOTALY agree with karl marx communist manifesto...hahhahahhaha

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 9:40:21 AM9/6/07
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i don't think bush was totaly ignoring al queda. he had only been in
power 8 months before we got attacked. and if you followed the news,the
bush administration was way behind in everything when they took over
because of the white house sabatoge that clinton did when he left
office. clinton did not allow bush to move into the white house complex
and began setting up for hs presidency as EVERY other president elected
since george washington handed over to adams..
this put president bush way way behind and endangered our natioal
security. then , when george bush was FINALLY allowed into the white
hous, they found all the computers sabatoged, the electric wiring
vandalized, important documents missing. it took two months for
president bush to get the computers running again.then when they did get
them running , the whole system was infected with a virusfrom a "device"
that was put into the electrical outlets in the whitehouse rooms. they
had to re-do everything from scratch. also, other smallr things wee
done to slow up the bush administration, like removing certain
letters-keys from the typing machines there.this was a federal crime by
clinton and he shoud have been arrested, so , you CAN blame bush for
being too weak for not filing charges for this vandalism.so it was april
before the bush administration could get going and they were buried in
backdated info. this is how al queda was able to pull off the attack 5
months later.....

qwest602000

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Sep 6, 2007, 10:09:57 AM9/6/07
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the only candidate rep. or demon. that makes any sense to me is ron
paul.
who gives a shit what happens in iraq if we leave.
bush could be the worst peresident this country ever had. maybe carter
was worse

Lawyerkill

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Sep 6, 2007, 10:19:47 AM9/6/07
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I like Dennis Kucinich or even Biden

Trailer Trash

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Sep 6, 2007, 11:14:30 AM9/6/07
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Clinton's gag of swiping all the "Ws'" off the computers caused 911?

How about Bush's month off in Crawford, Texas to study up on: "My Pet
Goat" ?¿?

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 1:43:47 PM9/6/07
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i used to think like that about iraq, until the 9-11 attacks...then i
started thinking about hitler, pearl harbour. i see iran making nkes,
russia and china holding joint military practice. i think in todays
world, with the long range jets, missies,WMD,computers, how easy it is
to travel across the world, we have to be pro=active in protecting
ourselves. i like ron paul. they should make him treasury secretary.but
as some one who would potect me and my family, he might be as dangerous
as hilary clinton. i know this because i study international military
news.

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 1:51:55 PM9/6/07
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come on trailor trash, they sabotoged the computers and their software
systems and trashed the whitehouse. the left wig media played up the
missing keys they stole out of the typewriters but they did more than
that.includig keeping george bush out of th white house until the last
minute. and it hurt our national security.i can e-mail you the proof if
you wish. our president is overwhelmed by work. all the presidents hair
turn grey after only a few years due to the stress. imagine YOU starting
a new,busy important job, and you were told you had to wai till you
started while the work piled up for a month, then when you got there on
your first day, all your computers were sabatoged. the work fromyour
tpical 10 hour day would overwhelm you, how could you possibly go
through the intel, paperwork etc from the previous 30 days ? you woud be
behind for months.

com...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 2007, 2:24:58 PM9/6/07
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all i can say is when george bush leaves office, he will hand over the
reigns early, to either the democrat or republican who wins because he
is a gemtleman. he will ot sabatoge the computers,vandalize typing
machies , frce the new president to wait until the last minute to get
familar with the operations there. clinton was a
selfish piece of shit for doing that to our country. and incestor
confidence will not be hurt by rumours he will try to seize power and
refuse to leave the white house like we heard about clinton when he was
breaking with tradition and holding the new president at bay.

Charlie Perrin

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Sep 7, 2007, 12:18:44 AM9/7/07
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:40:21 -0400, com...@webtv.net wrote:

>also, other smallr things wee
>done to slow up the bush administration, like removing
>certain letters-keys from the typing machines

I thought it was funny that they removed all the "W" keys.

GoForward

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Sep 7, 2007, 1:10:22 AM9/7/07
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On Sep 7, 12:18 am, Charlie Perrin <nikve...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I thought it was funny that they removed all the "W" keys.


Oh yes, the Bush administration has been the most inept,
malfunctioning
administration in the past 150 years because Clinton's staffers
purportedly
stole the "w" key off *typewriters*, viruses were put in the
electrical
system, and various and sundry other fantasies spawned by our
"neocons"
who, taking their cues from their political soulmate Josef Goebbels,
believe
in repeating the same lies so many times that eventually they gain
some
traction (and the more the administration's ineptness becomes clear,
the
more fantastic the stories grow).

Oh yeah, Bush was so paralyzed by these totally debilitating attacks
on
equipment that it took him 2 months to get up and running....imagine
a
business trying to get away with a line like that! The reality is
that 95% of
these events never happened and if they had, any competent office
manager,
with a competent executive over him, would have been back up and
running
in less than a week.

CJT

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Sep 7, 2007, 9:05:49 PM9/7/07
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GoForward wrote:

absolutely

but there's been little competence in the Bush administration -- many of
them have diploma-mill degrees, if anything, and Bush himself ran every
business he touched into the ground (the one "success" the neocons point
to was an example of profitably bilking the public)

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