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ausound

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Nov 21, 2009, 2:22:45 AM11/21/09
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Zapping Drones from a Truck


It took more than six months, but the Air Force coughed up some details
yes�ter�day on a laser pro�gram it�s devel�op�ing to plink drones and other fly�
ing objects from the sky.

Out at China Lake in May, a joint team spon�sored by the Air Force Research
Lab that included the engi�neers from the Naval Air Warfare Center fired a 2
Kilowatt class laser at a series of five UAVs, track�ing them and shoot�ing
them down �at long ranges and using rel�a�tively low laser power,� accord�ing
to a release from the laser maker Boeing. The so-??called Mobile Active
Targeting Resource for Integrated eXper�i�ments beam rides on a trailer and
is teth�ered to a fire con�trol radar that helps it zero in on the drone and
track the intruder before zap�ping it with laser precision.

The Mobile Active Targeting Resource for Integrated eXper�i�ments (MATRIX),
which was devel�oped by Boeing under con�tract to the Air Force Research
Laboratory, used a sin�gle, high-??brightness laser beam to shoot down five
UAVs at var�i�ous ranges. Laser Avenger, a Boeing-??funded ini�tia�tive, also
shot down a UAV.

During the same test, the AFRL fired their Laser Avenger pro�to�type at
another drone, down�ing it and giv�ing the engi�neers a chance to blast the 25
mike-??mike the Avenger wields as a �hybrid directed energy/?kinetic
energy� air defense system.

We�re still look�ing to get more infor�ma�tion on how high these lasers were
able to deal their lethal energy. But this, com�bined with other news com�ing
out about directed energy weapons qui�etly mak�ing strides, goes to show that
lasers may be a lethal addi�tion to mod�ern plat�forms sooner than we think.

phil scott

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:24:33 PM11/21/09
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that would be accomplished by means of dividing a single larger
diameter laser beam into
say 6 or 8 smaller ones by use of mirrors (in a vacuum enclosing the
mirrors and the primary
laser output) then the mirrors focused for distance on the target to
create a single hot spot on
the target 1,000 times or more intense than the relatively low power
source laser.

due to the use of a single source laser, the converging beams would
all be on the same pulse rate, and timing
.. many things have no doubt been tried in that range of options.

you dont need to burn a 6" hole in the target, when a quarter inch
hole at 10,000 degrees would work..
....you cant pack enough energy into a 1/4" source laser to do the
job... this approach would do the trick.... opening a vast
new range of advances in weaponry.

Phil scott

phil scott

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:42:58 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 20, 11:22 pm, ausound <auso...@spambog.com> wrote:

Ok..I looked at the link and picture... they are in fact using a
focused laser approach but
not from a single 6" source as I had speculated concentrated to a
quarter inch by mirrors.

Instead you can see a much larger array of beams focusing in on
smaller zone, maybe 6" in diameter
or whatever... the disinformation here would be that the rig is in a
single small truck.. judging by the angle
of conversion, and guessing at the distance it would be a large truck
with the source laser beams perhaps 12" in diameter
each. Id say that photo was at close range showing perhaps a spread
of several feet at the truck..

the question is can the angle be narrowed to achieve the same result
at longer ranges? probably.

why the army would release such revealing photo's is not a mystery..
dis information most likely ..the actual weapon
is probably not so obvious... putting the competition off track.


Phil scott

ausound

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:28:41 AM11/22/09
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phil scott <ph...@philscott.net> wrote in
news:05da3cb2-129b-46a8...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 20, 11:22�pm, ausound <auso...@spambog.com> wrote:
>> http://defensetech.org/
>>
>> Zapping Drones from a Truck
>>
>> It took more than six months, but the Air Force coughed up some
>> details yes�ter�day on a laser pro�gram it�s devel�op�ing to plink dr
> ones and other fly�
>> ing objects from the sky.
>>
>> Out at China Lake in May, a joint team spon�sored by the Air Force
>> Rese
> arch
>> Lab that included the engi�neers from the Naval Air Warfare Center
>> fire
> d a 2
>> Kilowatt class laser at a series of five UAVs, track�ing them and
>> shoot
> �ing
>> them down ��at long ranges and using rel�a�tively low laser power

> ,� accord�ing

> om�ing


>> out about directed energy weapons qui�etly mak�ing strides, goes to s
> how that
>> lasers may be a lethal addi�tion to mod�ern plat�forms sooner than
> we think.
>
> Ok..I looked at the link and picture... they are in fact using a
> focused laser approach but
> not from a single 6" source as I had speculated concentrated to a
> quarter inch by mirrors.
>
> Instead you can see a much larger array of beams focusing in on
> smaller zone, maybe 6" in diameter
> or whatever... the disinformation here would be that the rig is in a
> single small truck.. judging by the angle
> of conversion, and guessing at the distance it would be a large truck
> with the source laser beams perhaps 12" in diameter
> each. Id say that photo was at close range showing perhaps a spread
> of several feet at the truck..
>
> the question is can the angle be narrowed to achieve the same result
> at longer ranges? probably.
>
> why the army would release such revealing photo's is not a mystery..
> dis information most likely ..the actual weapon
> is probably not so obvious... putting the competition off track.
>
>
> Phil scott
>

because ITS BADASS!
get them pinheads on the other side figuring out (ie; spending a
shitload of money) on how do you defense against FUCKING LASER BEAMS...

oh yea, and the airborne laser onboard a 747 has had some successful
shoots

-=DirtBag©

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:08:02 PM11/22/09
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This plasma laser stuff give me a hard on. That is firepower.

If Boeing and GM got together and made a car with this laser as optional
urban warfare equipment.. I would buy one. and THEN maybe I could get
some respect out there on the highway. Then again maybe not if in LA.
But revenge works well too when you cant get respect. <lol>

BTW you had a plasma zapper company for Waste Disposal a while back and
I lost the info. I always liked that Plasma garbage disposer idea but
I think they could really expand with the idea. They could hook up
with Waste Management Garbage Disposal and have each truck set up to
'zap' the garbage as they dump your can into the truck.. a one shot deal
where all is left is ashes. They would only need to empty the ashes
once at the end of the day. This save a ton of money in the busy-ness of
trash removal.

Crematoriums are another place to utilize this plasma zapper. Feed dead
bodies in one end and out comes a little package of ashes out the other
end. Then you can make a diamond out of your loved ones ashes..

I forgot the ticker on that company. Are you still following it? That
idea is fresh and sure beats landfill. It distroy's the toxic medical
waste and even nuclear waste I think.. This and that company that build
machines that grind up ANYTHING are futuristic and IMO worth checking
out. Garbage is a big deal and you dont hear much about because it is a
issue (can of worms) no one wants to deal with in debate. My dream real
estate property is owning a Landfill. The money in that is serious
duckets. This plasma Zapper for small cities that have nowhere to dump
and areas that are cold and never thaw.

But it seems weapons use it always the first idea.. Plasma Lasers...
to Shoot down missiles..etc. Lets use this stuff to clean up the planet.

ausound

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:46:36 PM11/22/09
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=?UTF-8?B?LT1EaXJ0QmFnwqk=?= <Di...@ymail.net> wrote in
news:4b099a23$0$1951$742e...@news.sonic.net:

>
> BTW you had a plasma zapper company for Waste Disposal a while back
> and I lost the info.

STHK.OB
it's been in a "Bob Waldian" state for quite some time..HOWEVER... they
did have a suitor which the company blew off with a poison pill

They have a working plant in Japan
and a few works in progress

and they have deposits for new plants, but with tht economy around the
world, it's no wonder financing seems to have slowed.

since I'm underwater on this stock I tend to look at the potential for
reversal, and that's the GLOBAL simulus packages which will be unleashed
in 2010.


> I always liked that Plasma garbage disposer idea but
> I think they could really expand with the idea. They could hook up
> with Waste Management Garbage Disposal and have each truck set up to
> 'zap' the garbage as they dump your can into the truck.. a one shot
> deal where all is left is ashes. They would only need to empty the
> ashes once at the end of the day. This save a ton of money in the
> busy-ness of trash removal.


The plants are fixed. I would think there's a power requirement which
might make mobile plants unfeasible. BTW this Plasma is multiple times
hotter than the sun... there is no ASHES, the shit is VAPORIZED and the
end result is gaseous. The Gas is a viable feedstock for everything
from biofuel to plastic.

The Visitor

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:23:42 PM11/22/09
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There is a garbage zapping company around here. I should revisit them.

"-=DirtBag�" <Di...@ymail.net> wrote in message
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-=DirtBag©

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:05:04 AM11/23/09
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I didn't realize that the gas from this could be used for feedstock in
the areas you mention below. This technology really is interesting and
futuristic in many ways. Japan seems like a good place to use this and
perfect it.


>
> The plants are fixed. I would think there's a power requirement which
> might make mobile plants unfeasible. BTW this Plasma is multiple times
> hotter than the sun... there is no ASHES, the shit is VAPORIZED and the
> end result is gaseous. The Gas is a viable feedstock for everything
> from biofuel to plastic.
>> Crematoriums are another place to utilize this plasma zapper. Feed
>> dead bodies in one end and out comes a little package of ashes out the
>> other end. Then you can make a diamond out of your loved ones ashes..
>>

THIS is some news on their financing below from their website:


Startech Environmental Progressing Toward New Financing

WILTON, Conn., Nov. 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Startech Environmental
Corp. (OTC Bulletin Board: STHK), a fully reporting, Award-winning
Environment and Energy Company today announced that the Company is
continuing its progress toward completing a new financing before the
year-end.

About Startech - The Environment and Energy Company

Startech is the internationally recognized, Award-winning, Environment
and Energy Industry Company producing and selling of its innovative,
proprietary plasma processing equipment known as the Plasma Converter
System(TM).

The Plasma Converter System safely and economically destroys wastes, no
matter how hazardous or lethal, and turns most into useful and valuable
products. In doing so, the System protects the environment and helps to
improve the Public Health and Safety. The System achieves closed-loop
elemental recycling to safely and irreversibly destroy urban waste,
organics and inorganics, solids, liquids and gases, hazardous and
non-hazardous waste, industrial by-products and also items such as
electronics-waste (e-waste), medical waste, chemical industry waste and
other specialty wastes, while converting many of them into useful
commodity products that can include silicates, metals and a
synthesis-gas called Plasma Converted Gas (PCG)(TM).

Among the many commercial uses for PCG, is its use to produce
"Carbonless Electric Power" from Startech Hydrogen, Gas-To-Liquid (GTL)
fuels such as ethanol, synthetic diesel fuel and other higher alcohol
"alternative" fuels. Startech Hydrogen, for commercial use and sale, can
also be recovered from the PCG.

The Startech Plasma Converter is essentially a manufacturing system
producing valuable commodity products from feedstock-materials that were
previously regarded as wastes.

Startech regards all wastes, hazardous and non-hazardous, as valuable
renewable resources and as feedstock's.

For further information, please visit http://www.startech.net or contact
Steve Landa at (888) 807-9443 or (203) 762-2499 Ext. 148 or
sa...@startech.net.

Safe Harbor for Forward-Looking Statements

This news release contains forward-looking statements, including
statements regarding the Company's plans and expectations regarding the
development and commercialization of its Plasma Converter(TM)
technology. All forward-looking statements are subject to risk and
uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from
those projected. Factors that could cause such a difference include,
without limitation, failure of the customer to obtain appropriate
financing for the project, general risks associated with product
development, manufacturing, rapid technological change and competition
as well as other risks set forth in the Company's filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission. The forward-looking statements
contained herein speak only as of the date of this press release. The
Company expressly disclaims any obligation or undertaking to release
publicly any updates or revisions to any such statement to reflect any
change in the Company's expectations or any change in events, conditions
or circumstances on which any such statement is based.


SOURCE Startech Environmental Corp.


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