This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup misc.industry.printing is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).

This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator.  In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  print...@printerspace.com
    (generated from misc-industry-print...@moderators.isc.org)
    retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

misc.industry.printing  A forum for the printing industry. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.industry.printing

CHARTER OF MISC.INDUSTRY.PRINTING

Articles suitable for posting to misc.industry.printing are those
pertaining to topics related to the printing industry.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):

      *  Environmental Issues
      *  Trading
      *  Process Management
      *  Problems
      *  New equipment
      *  Raw material sourcing
      *  Training
      *  Best practices
      *  Total Quality Management
      *  Electonics
      *  New Technology
      *  Sales / Marketing
      *  Prepress
      *  Applied R@CHARTER@D
      *  Barter
      *  Contacts
      *  Trends

Inappropriate posts would include:

      *  Advertising.  This newsgroup allows those involved with the
              printing industry to help those individuals who share
              questions or concerns with the group.  This is NOT a
              forum for advertising and commercial interests and such
              posts will not be welcome.  If you have a product or
              service to sell, please post your message in other, more
              appropriate locations.

      *  Inappropriate behavior.  Inappropriate posts, spamming,
              advertisement, foul language or innuendos that are
              disrespectful of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

  The moderator will abide by the following policies:

      * The moderator will be unbiased in their approval and
        rejection of postings.

      * The moderator will work to insure that the quality of
        discussions are kept high and free of unsolicited
        advertising.

      * The moderator will reject articles that do not conform to
        this charter.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

misc.industry.printing is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 186:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Nov 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartol...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.  

To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-17      Probe post
2010-01-24      Moderator Vacancy Investigation

--

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup misc.industry.printing.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  print...@printerspace.com
    (generated from misc-industry-print...@moderators.isc.org)
    retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

misc.industry.printing  A forum for the printing industry. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.industry.printing

CHARTER OF MISC.INDUSTRY.PRINTING

Articles suitable for posting to misc.industry.printing are those
pertaining to topics related to the printing industry.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):

      *  Environmental Issues
      *  Trading
      *  Process Management
      *  Problems
      *  New equipment
      *  Raw material sourcing
      *  Training
      *  Best practices
      *  Total Quality Management
      *  Electonics
      *  New Technology
      *  Sales / Marketing
      *  Prepress
      *  Applied R@CHARTER@D
      *  Barter
      *  Contacts
      *  Trends

Inappropriate posts would include:

      *  Advertising.  This newsgroup allows those involved with the
              printing industry to help those individuals who share
              questions or concerns with the group.  This is NOT a
              forum for advertising and commercial interests and such
              posts will not be welcome.  If you have a product or
              service to sell, please post your message in other, more
              appropriate locations.

      *  Inappropriate behavior.  Inappropriate posts, spamming,
              advertisement, foul language or innuendos that are
              disrespectful of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

  The moderator will abide by the following policies:

      * The moderator will be unbiased in their approval and
        rejection of postings.

      * The moderator will work to insure that the quality of
        discussions are kept high and free of unsolicited
        advertising.

      * The moderator will reject articles that do not conform to
        this charter.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

misc.industry.printing is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 186:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Nov 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartol...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for misc.industry.printing are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-17      Probe post
2010-01-24      Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06      1st RFD

--

              REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group misc.industry.printing

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup misc.industry.printing.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  print...@printerspace.com
    (generated from misc-industry-print...@moderators.isc.org)
    retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

misc.industry.printing  A forum for the printing industry. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.industry.printing

CHARTER OF MISC.INDUSTRY.PRINTING

Articles suitable for posting to misc.industry.printing are those
pertaining to topics related to the printing industry.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):

      *  Environmental Issues
      *  Trading
      *  Process Management
      *  Problems
      *  New equipment
      *  Raw material sourcing
      *  Training
      *  Best practices
      *  Total Quality Management
      *  Electonics
      *  New Technology
      *  Sales / Marketing
      *  Prepress
      *  Applied R@CHARTER@D
      *  Barter
      *  Contacts
      *  Trends

Inappropriate posts would include:

      *  Advertising.  This newsgroup allows those involved with the
              printing industry to help those individuals who share
              questions or concerns with the group.  This is NOT a
              forum for advertising and commercial interests and such
              posts will not be welcome.  If you have a product or
              service to sell, please post your message in other, more
              appropriate locations.

      *  Inappropriate behavior.  Inappropriate posts, spamming,
              advertisement, foul language or innuendos that are
              disrespectful of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

  The moderator will abide by the following policies:

      * The moderator will be unbiased in their approval and
        rejection of postings.

      * The moderator will work to insure that the quality of
        discussions are kept high and free of unsolicited
        advertising.

      * The moderator will reject articles that do not conform to
        this charter.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

misc.industry.printing is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 186:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Nov 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartol...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for misc.industry.printing are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-17      Probe post
2010-01-24      Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06      1st RFD
2010-02-21      2nd RFD

--

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup misc.industry.printing.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  print...@printerspace.com
    (generated from misc-industry-print...@moderators.isc.org)
    retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

misc.industry.printing  A forum for the printing industry. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.industry.printing

CHARTER OF MISC.INDUSTRY.PRINTING

Articles suitable for posting to misc.industry.printing are those
pertaining to topics related to the printing industry.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):

      *  Environmental Issues
      *  Trading
      *  Process Management
      *  Problems
      *  New equipment
      *  Raw material sourcing
      *  Training
      *  Best practices
      *  Total Quality Management
      *  Electonics
      *  New Technology
      *  Sales / Marketing
      *  Prepress
      *  Applied R@CHARTER@D
      *  Barter
      *  Contacts
      *  Trends

Inappropriate posts would include:

      *  Advertising.  This newsgroup allows those involved with the
              printing industry to help those individuals who share
              questions or concerns with the group.  This is NOT a
              forum for advertising and commercial interests and such
              posts will not be welcome.  If you have a product or
              service to sell, please post your message in other, more
              appropriate locations.

      *  Inappropriate behavior.  Inappropriate posts, spamming,
              advertisement, foul language or innuendos that are
              disrespectful of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

  The moderator will abide by the following policies:

      * The moderator will be unbiased in their approval and
        rejection of postings.

      * The moderator will work to insure that the quality of
        discussions are kept high and free of unsolicited
        advertising.

      * The moderator will reject articles that do not conform to
        this charter.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

misc.industry.printing is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 186:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Nov 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartol...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for misc.industry.printing are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-17      Probe post
2010-01-24      Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06      1st RFD
2010-02-21      2nd RFD
2010-03-07      LCC

--

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-03-07 initiated a five-day
period for final comments.  Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by vote to remove moderated group
misc.industry.printing.

Vote results (yes-no-abstain): 9-0-0

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

  print...@printerspace.com
    (generated from misc-industry-print...@moderators.isc.org)
    retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

misc.industry.printing  A forum for the printing industry. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
misc.industry.printing

CHARTER OF MISC.INDUSTRY.PRINTING

Articles suitable for posting to misc.industry.printing are those
pertaining to topics related to the printing industry.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):

      *  Environmental Issues
      *  Trading
      *  Process Management
      *  Problems
      *  New equipment
      *  Raw material sourcing
      *  Training
      *  Best practices
      *  Total Quality Management
      *  Electonics
      *  New Technology
      *  Sales / Marketing
      *  Prepress
      *  Applied R@CHARTER@D
      *  Barter
      *  Contacts
      *  Trends

Inappropriate posts would include:

      *  Advertising.  This newsgroup allows those involved with the
              printing industry to help those individuals who share
              questions or concerns with the group.  This is NOT a
              forum for advertising and commercial interests and such
              posts will not be welcome.  If you have a product or
              service to sell, please post your message in other, more
              appropriate locations.

      *  Inappropriate behavior.  Inappropriate posts, spamming,
              advertisement, foul language or innuendos that are
              disrespectful of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

  The moderator will abide by the following policies:

      * The moderator will be unbiased in their approval and
        rejection of postings.

      * The moderator will work to insure that the quality of
        discussions are kept high and free of unsolicited
        advertising.

      * The moderator will reject articles that do not conform to
        this charter.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

misc.industry.printing is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 186:15 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 14 Nov 1996.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander.bartol...@gmx.at>

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-01-17      Probe post
2010-01-24      Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-02-06      1st RFD
2010-02-21      2nd RFD
2010-03-07      LCC
2010-03-19      RESULT

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