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simon bland

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Feb 25, 2003, 4:14:08 PM2/25/03
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Well, after 2 descheduled interviews, I finally had my interview today
for my N400 in Orlando Florida

My appointment was for 11:00, the last of the day for my officer.
Finally got in just after 2:00PM. The officer apologized for having kept
me so long, she had had all problem interviews all morning, and the
computer kept going down, and she had't even had lunch yet.!!

As I was sitting down she proceeded to ask me 20 questions, who was the
1st president, what is Congress etc., I aced that 100%, she said she
hadn't had anyone answer so quickly and get them all right before, then
went through my N400 application, confriming address etc., updated my
trip record (I've been out of the US about 6 times since I applied),
made me sign the photo's and initial the changes to the application,
write a sentence in English, and asked me if I understood that I would
have to renounce my UK Citizenship and, if needed bear arms for the
United States.

I said that I understood that, she photocopied my Green Card, gave me a
letter saying, Congratulations, you application has been recommended for
approval, and the would write to me and let me know when the oath
ceramony would be, probably in 2 - 4 months.

That was it, all this waiting, descheduling and pacing the INS floor
this morning, and in under 30 mins. I was out of there.

Just wait and see mow how long until the Oath.

Lets hope that everyone elses applications now start to progress.

Simon

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jaytee

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Feb 25, 2003, 6:12:59 PM2/25/03
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Good job. It wasn't too difficult. Driving the 300 miles overnight was
the worst part for me.

"2 - 4 months" sounds realistic instead of the usual "oath letter in 3
weeks" they've been telling everyone.

Congratulations! Now maybe you can take the oath locally as I heard
something about being able to take the oath at an ASC (application
support center).

sean007

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Feb 26, 2003, 3:11:54 AM2/26/03
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Contrats man. I'm happy for you.

Question: How did she know that you had 6 trips? I mean did she know
or you told her? or she knew by looking at your passport?

Sean

Originally posted by simon bland

Razorback Fan

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Feb 26, 2003, 9:10:36 AM2/26/03
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Simon,

Congrats on your successful interview! My own interview is coming up on
Monday, and I wanted to ask you a question - I know all the 100 questions on
the INS Web site. Did all your 20 questions come from the 100 available on
INS's Web site, or were some of them different? Thanks for sharing your
experience.

Razorback

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simon bland

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Feb 26, 2003, 8:14:04 AM2/26/03
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Hi Sean, Thanks

She had all my trips listed on her computer, she had to print each one
out, it showed date, airline, and airports!!!. For some she only had the
re-entry into the US, for others she had exit and re-entry. She printed
them off as I sat there. For the trips that She had no departure record
I had to give her my leaving dates, she needed all this to see how long
I had been out of the country, and if my residence still qualified for
Naturalization

So it seems that the Airlines are now reporting all trips

Englishmum

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Feb 26, 2003, 8:49:57 AM2/26/03
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Hello Simon

Congratulations!

I'm astonished that the INS officer asked you if you understood that you
will have to renounce your British citizenship - I was under the
impression that the US did now accept that people can have dual
nationality...something to do with the fact that so many Americans also
hold Israeli passports and that this concession then had to be open to
all Americans where their native countries still allowed dual
nationality.

For British citizens, the only way to renounce citizenship is to
actually renounce it in front of a British consular official.
However, the UK laws *do* allow people to hold dual nationality. You
might be interested in seeing what it says here on the British
Embassy US website:

http://www.britain-info.org/consular/dualnata.asp

sean007

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Feb 26, 2003, 10:40:54 AM2/26/03
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I ask this becuase I have travelled several times where I went back home
and came back to canada to see my parents and then drove back through
canada and I'm sure I don't have and entry for those trip. Don't know
if thats gonna be a problem.

Sean

Originally posted by simon bland

MrsLondon

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Feb 26, 2003, 12:29:38 PM2/26/03
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Originally posted by simon bland
> , confriming address etc., updated my trip record (I've been out of
> the US about 6 times since I applied), made me sign the photo's and
> initial the changes to the application, write a sentence in English,
> and asked me if I understood that I would have to renounce my UK
> Citizenship and, if needed bear arms for the United States.
>
> I said that I understood that, she photocopied my Green Card, gave me
> a letter saying, Congratulations, you application has been recommended
> for approval, and the would write to me and let me know when the oath
> ceramony would be, probably in 2 - 4 months.
>
> Simon
Is that true what she said--that you had to give up your British
Citizenship? I thought you could have both?

jaytee

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Feb 26, 2003, 5:55:47 PM2/26/03
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Originally posted by MrsLondon
> Is that true what she said--that you had to give up your British
> Citizenship? I thought you could have both?

There seems to be much confusion about this. The answer is that YES,
YOU DO HAVE TO RENOUNCE YOUR BRITISH CITIZENSHIP at the Oath Ceremony.
So how is it that there are dual citizens? The answer lies in the
superiority of British Citizenship which allows British Citizens to
become citizens of other countries without having to give up British
Citizenship. No matter what the US says, you're still a British
Citizen. The US does not have jurisdiction over British Citizenship..
That's entirely up to Britain, ain't it?

Both the US and the UK accept the existence of dual nationality. The US
says it does not encourage it due to potential conflicts of interest
that might arise in a war, military obligations/service to a foreign
country, or holding a foreign political office.

Stephen Gallagher

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Feb 28, 2003, 11:49:00 AM2/28/03
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The US naturalization oath has a blanket renunciatory statement,
however this statement has no effect under British law. In order
to renounce British citizenship, you must appear before a
British consular officer and follow the specified British
procedure for renunciation of citizenship. Making a statement
of renunciation in front of foreign (ie. American) officials does
not meet the British requirements, therefore British citizenship
is not lost.

Therefore when a British citizen naturalizes in the US,
he ends up with dual citizenship in spite of the US
oath.

The US government has admitted that they cannot force
another country to honour the US oath's renunciatory
clause, and so they view it as being unenforceable.

Once that person has his US citizenship he must deal
with the US as a US citizen, presenting his US passport
upon entry, and identifying himself to US officials
as a US citizen. He can, however, still hold a British
passport and to travel on that British passport outside
of the US.

Stephen Gallagher

simon bland

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Feb 28, 2003, 1:28:53 PM2/28/03
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Originally posted by Razorback Fan
> Simon,
>
> Congrats on your successful interview! My own interview is
> coming up on
> Monday, and I wanted to ask you a question - I know all the 100
> questions on
> the INS Web site. Did all your 20 questions come from the 100
> available on
> INS's Web site, or were some of them different? Thanks for
> sharing your
> experience.
>
> Razorback
>
> "Hi
>
> Good luck on Monday, all the questions were from the 100 on the
> web site, except from "who is Governer of the State of Florida"(My
> home State)
>
> So you should be A OK
>
> Lets us know how you get on

simon bland

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Apr 29, 2003, 9:19:21 AM4/29/03
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YYYYY EEEEEEE SSSSSSSS
Got the Appointment letter for my oath yesterday, April 28th, 2 months
and 3 days after my interview, although it was mailed on April 14th. At
interview they told me I would hear in 2 - 4 months, so they really
excelled in this one

The interview is on May 15th at the University of Central Florida in
Orlando, anybody else going on the same day???

Hopefully now only 18 more days of the INS/BCIS, then I'm free of them
forever........... well until my wife applies for citizenship in 20
months time!!

Good Luck to all those still waiting

MissF

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Apr 22, 2004, 7:52:08 PM4/22/04
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Short question, how did you study for the interview to get 100% of the
questions right? Is there a book you would recommend?

Thanks

MissF

jaytee

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Apr 22, 2004, 8:46:01 PM4/22/04
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Originally posted by simon bland
> YYYYY EEEEEEE SSSSSSSS

pretty funny that they've changed their
name again to USCIS since you started waiting

congratulations

:PARTY:
:PARTY: :PARTY:

Rete

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Apr 23, 2004, 2:53:13 PM4/23/04
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Congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Canuck was asked 10 questions and got
them all right as well ;-)

One more wait to go and you will be home
free.

Rete

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