How do non english/american immigrants do in Australia ?
laurent
immigrants in Australia.
Is it harder to immigrate ? is it harder to integrate (find a job...)
compared, let's say, to a Brit or an American because of the
culture/language/anglo-saxon ties difference?
Any real stories would be interesting to read
thanks
bek_1975
Laurent,
Its quite difficult to say whether is harder or easier, each case it愀
different from another. I惴 from south america (3rd world) that should
make things harder for us. Although Im still outside Australia I have
many friends making new lives in Oz, for some of them its really hard
and for some others it愀 not.
Quoting them, I would say it愀 not a matter of nationality but its how
competitive your english is, and off course what profession are you in.
As an overall, yes, they tend to hire Brits and Americans instead of ot-
hers, but it愀 not always like that.
thanx
:BEK:.
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reneebrazil
> Tu peux aussi aller sur francedownunder.com. Ils repondront avec plai-
> sir a ce genre de questions.
Better in English I guess.
Renee
Joe65
> Laurent,
>
> Its quite difficult to say whether is harder or easier, each case it´s
> different from another. I´m from south america (3rd world) that should
> make things harder for us. Although Im still outside Australia I have
> many friends making new lives in Oz, for some of them its really hard
>
> Quoting them, I would say it´s not a matter of nationality but its
> how competitive your english is, and off course what profession
> are you in.
>
> As an overall, yes, they tend to hire Brits and Americans instead of
>
> thanx
>
> .:BEK:.
Hi Bek,
Please don't degrade yourself telling others you are from the "third
world." Many people in the western world happily use that term. Reme-
mber god created only one world. No first world, second world and all
that nonsense.
So is US first world, then UK second world and the rest of the world
third world? There is also another term I have heard called "third co-
untry nationals" which if I am not mistaken is a term contributed by
the English.
Isn't life supposed to be simple and not so complicated with all the-
se labels?
Rgds
Joe
chocaholic
Jobwise, it probably depends on your line of business and how good your
English is - your level of English will be important. My husband is Dut-
ch but speaks very, very good English. One headhunter, not realizing he
was Dutch, said - oh you've lived in Holland - wasn't it hard living wi-
th those Dutch?! Ha ha. His secretary had written down a name that look-
ed English - if she'd written down the correct spelling, he wouldn't ev-
en have called back, he said! Some headhunters have a definite bias for
UK immigrants and even say things like they don't like South Africans,
for whatever reason - we've heard it with our own ears.
This is obviously ignorant behaviour - and you have to realize that the
company you want to work for will recognize your qualities. A company
that uses such headhunters, btw, is not worth working for.
Prince1975
> Jobwise, it probably depends on your line of business and how good
> your English is - your level of English will be important. My husband
> lizing he was Dutch, said - oh you've lived in Holland - wasn't it
> a name that looked English - if she'd written down the correct spell-
> ing, he wouldn't even have called back, he said! Some headhunters ha-
> ve a definite bias for UK immigrants and even say things like they
> don't like South Africans, for whatever reason - we've heard it with
> our own ears.
>
> This is obviously ignorant behaviour - and you have to realize that
> pany that uses such headhunters, btw, is not worth working for.
What about the one from Asia especially from India?????
chocaholic
> What about the one from Asia especially from India?????
I can only really say from our own experience, coming from Europe. I ex-
pect, everything depends on your English, the perceived relevance of yo-
ur work experience and the level of your education and how this is equa-
ted to the Australian system. A matching would have been done to acquire
the skilled independent visa - if that's what you are applying for, so
you'll have an idea.
I think, looking at a typical office environment, that many immigrants
will have to start at a lower level in the "corporate ladder" than where
they came from and will then have to prove their worth within their new
companies. But there will always be exceptions for those lucky people!
And of course, if you're starting your own company - it's a whole diffe-
rent ball game!
Good luck anyway!
A Mate
language skills - Really it depends on how idiomatic your English is; rather
than how 'good'!!!!
The major factor, however, is the level of your marketable skills. Indian
professionals - medical, dentist, accountant - each of which I have used at
various times - have been successful mainly because of their obvious
professional competence - and good communication skills!!
Good Luck!
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Prince1975
> Many Indians are employed at very senior levels in Australia. With re-
> gard to
> language skills - Really it depends on how idiomatic your English is;
> rather
> than how 'good'!!!!
>
> dian
> professionals - medical, dentist, accountant - each of which I have
> used at
> various times - have been successful mainly because of their obvious
> professional competence - and good communication skills!!
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> "Prince1975" <prince...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32$252137$1636732$10941...@britishexpats.com...
> >> Jobwise, it probably depends on your line of business and how good
> >> and
> >> is Dutch but speaks very, very good English. One headhunter, not
> >> rea-
> >> lizing he was Dutch, said - oh you've lived in Holland - wasn't it
> >> wn
> >> a name that looked English - if she'd written down the correct spe-
> >> ll-
> >> ing, he wouldn't even have called back, he said! Some headhunters
> >> ha-
> >> ve a definite bias for UK immigrants and even say things like they
> >> th
> >> our own ears.
> >> This is obviously ignorant behaviour - and you have to realize that
> >> the company you want to work for will recognize your qualities. A
> >> com-
> >> pany that uses such headhunters, btw, is not worth working for.
> > What about the one from Asia especially from India?????
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Thanks Mate for this piece of info.