My note to Lifescan
bri...@btronics.com
ability to color coordinate one's bg meter is an adversity that no one
should have to bear.
You should be commended for your continued commitment in making
significant and innovative advancements in the field of diabetic
health care.
God Bless You,
-B
Nicky
Just as a matter of interest, do those people who have gone for pink
or green have to soldier on with a naff black case? :D
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Ozgirl
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ray
Right On!!
gu...@consolidated.net
';Did you send them some money? Bayer is now eating their lunch and
all they can do is come out with colors. How about a few price cuts?
Cynical Guy
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ray
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:02:53 -0600, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:29:00 -0700, brian63 wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for making different color meters available. Not having the
>>> ability to color coordinate one's bg meter is an adversity that no one
>>> should have to bear.
>>>
>>> You should be commended for your continued commitment in making
>>> significant and innovative advancements in the field of diabetic
>>> health care.
>>>
>>> God Bless You,
>>>
>>> -B
>>
>>Right On!!
> ';Did you send them some money? Bayer is now eating their lunch and
> all they can do is come out with colors. How about a few price cuts?
>
> Cynical Guy
Can't get much lower than zero. I have not paid a dime for the last three
meters I got.
Midas.Mulligan
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TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI"
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"ray" <r...@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:49:51 -0500, guys wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:02:53 -0600, ray <r...@zianet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:29:00 -0700, brian63 wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you for making different color meters available. Not having the
> >>> ability to color coordinate one's bg meter is an adversity that no one
> >>> should have to bear.
> >>>
> >>> You should be commended for your continued commitment in making
> >>> significant and innovative advancements in the field of diabetic
> >>> health care.
> >>>
> >>> God Bless You,
> >>>
> >>> -B
> >>
> >>Right On!!
> > ';Did you send them some money? Bayer is now eating their lunch and
> > all they can do is come out with colors. How about a few price cuts?
> >
> > Cynical Guy
>
> Can't get much lower than zero. I have not paid a dime for the last three
> meters I got.
>
free.
gu...@consolidated.net
Over the years I have noted all of the reps are well trained an
polished. They are carefully selected.
The only meter I paid for was the AMES It was very expensive.
But then there was no alternative.i
Midas.Mulligan
They made a real (blah-blah) reply...
Dear Brian Harvey:
Thank you for your reply. We apologize for the delay in our response
and we are sorry to learn that you are not satisfied with the release
of colors to the OneTouch UltraMini Meters. We have shared your
feedback with the appropriate management.
In regards to your comments, please know that LifeScan and our parent
company, Johnson & Johnson, have been actively involved in assisting
diabetes organizations in the passage of laws that increase insurance
coverage and medical rights for people with diabetes. This includes
providing funding on both a local and national level for research and
education. We support diabetes organizations and awards that focus on
educating health care professionals in diabetes-related fields to
provide the highest quality of care for people with diabetes, and we
regularly participate in activities such as the Tour de Cure and the
JDRF Walk to Cure Diabetes.
We also believe that, until there is a cure, diabetes management is
one key to delaying or preventing complications. Therefore, LifeScan
continues to strive to develop products and services that promote
active participation of the patient in their diabetes care. For some,
this may include graphing features and other organizational features.
For others, the introduction of simplified meters or bright colors
helps increase confidence and decrease the embarassment of using
medical equipment, especially in public. By providing these different
options, LifeScan wants to engage patients in the management of their
health.
Again, we are sorry if you are not satisfied with the options
provided, but we hope the information above is helpful.
bj
consider so frivolous & unnecessary? That they will immediately cease doing
so & consult you in future releases? What? Why has this product so offended
you?
bj
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Type2
"bj" <bjon...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> What do you want them to say? That they're sorry they released something
you
> consider so frivolous & unnecessary? That they will immediately cease
doing
> so & consult you in future releases? What? Why has this product so
offended
> you?
> bj
>
> "Midas.Mulligan" <bri...@btronics.com> wrote in message
> news:1190237171.3...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Aug 24, 12:29 am, bria...@btronics.com wrote:
> >> Thank you for making different color meters available. Not having the
> >> ability to color coordinate one's bg meter is an adversity that no one
> >> should have to bear.
Don't you recognize a little sarcasm when you read it?
Midas.Mulligan
Actually, it's the superficial vanity of the population that makes
this possible. I don't know who disgusts me more, the predators or
those who allow themselves to be preyed upon.
The development, marketing, etc of products like this cost money.
This cost passes through to the retail price and directly affects my
wallet.
So, thank for costing me money; money wasted on something of no real
value while we continue on without a cure.
If we continue to roll over and and debase ourselves by slobbering
over such foolishness as colored meters, then we don't deserve a
cure .We deserve amputation, blindness, kidney failure, heart disease
and - of course - death.
Maybe we should ask morticians to develop coffins in three exciting
designer colors...
-B
On Sep 19, 6:50 pm, "bj" <bjone...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> What do you want them to say? That they're sorry they released something you
> consider so frivolous & unnecessary? That they will immediately cease doing
> so & consult you in future releases? What? Why has this product so offended
> you?
> bj
>
> "Midas.Mulligan" <bria...@btronics.com> wrote in message
Alan S
<bri...@btronics.com> wrote:
>
>Actually, it's the superficial vanity of the population that makes
>this possible. I don't know who disgusts me more, the predators or
>those who allow themselves to be preyed upon.
>
>The development, marketing, etc of products like this cost money.
>This cost passes through to the retail price and directly affects my
>wallet.
>
>So, thank for costing me money; money wasted on something of no real
>value while we continue on without a cure.
>
>If we continue to roll over and and debase ourselves by slobbering
>over such foolishness as colored meters, then we don't deserve a
>cure .We deserve amputation, blindness, kidney failure, heart disease
>and - of course - death.
>
>Maybe we should ask morticians to develop coffins in three exciting
>designer colors...
Personally, I couldn't care less if my meter is iridescent
fluoro vomit green as long as it shows me my BG's with
reasonable repeatability and accuracy.
However, I think you've turned a tiny molehill into Everest.
I doubt that coloured meters affect the cost of our testing
by a thousandth of one cent per test. And if coloured meters
are the thing that gets just one diabetic using a meter,
shallow as that diabetic may be, who may not have done when
they were black and boring then I applaud the improvement.
If you want to tilt at windmills, there are plenty of
worth-while targets to aim at. Just two to start you off -
ADA/DA/DUK dietary advice or the SMBG advice from those same
organisations. Or, if your windmill of choice is the meter
manufacturers then have a go at the price of strips rather
than the colour of meters.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Donald Sessler
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Actually my wife has gotten rather tired of her present meter and for less
than $20 (free with their offer) she has ordered the pink meter. Her old
meter will be given to a relative who just learned he is a diabetic.
Really the companies can probably give the meters away free. It's the strips
they need to sell.
Midas.Mulligan
All valid points. You do have insight into my underlying intentions.
The question that gnaws at me is: why are diabetics, as a group, so
complacent? More to the point, what does it take to to get people
motivated to stick up for themselves instead of just sitting back and
allowing the corporate ghouls to treat them as nothing more than a
vertical market?
Alan S
Can't answer those questions. I've certainly tried via the
net, personal contact and support group meetings to motivate
some to at least take charge of their own treatment if they
aren't prepared to be active in a wider sense.
But the old saw about leading horses to water is too true.
W. Baker
: Actually, it's the superficial vanity of the population that makes
: this possible. I don't know who disgusts me more, the predators or
: those who allow themselves to be preyed upon.
: The development, marketing, etc of products like this cost money.
: This cost passes through to the retail price and directly affects my
: wallet.
: So, thank for costing me money; money wasted on something of no real
: value while we continue on without a cure.
: If we continue to roll over and and debase ourselves by slobbering
: over such foolishness as colored meters, then we don't deserve a
: cure .We deserve amputation, blindness, kidney failure, heart disease
: and - of course - death.
: Maybe we should ask morticians to develop coffins in three exciting
: designer colors...
: -B
If it gets teens, or others who are so style conscious, to actually use
this meter more it woudl be good. I imagine that many kids, with all the
cute little cell phones, etc would like to have this kind of thing.
frivolous, yes, but perhaps a motivation for some at an age tht is so
anxious to conform.
Wendy
Midas.Mulligan
> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Yes, that's the point (see Alan T2) They give the meters away to "lock
in" your choice of strips. The meters are NOT FREE. The cost is
hidden in the egregious price of the strips. The meter is the *bait*
ad it seems that their marketing gurus have determined that colorful
meters make the lure even more attractive.
It may seem that I'm going way overboard on this topic but I see it as
indicative of a much larger, over-arching issue and that is that
diabetics, as a group, prefer to sit back and take whatever is thrown
at them instead of fighting for what is in *our* best interest.
You want another example? How about EXUBERA?!?!
Compared to needles, the dosing is less accurate., it aggravated pre-
existing respiratory conditions and it *COSTS MORE *
But, if you're a little scared of the needle or too self-conscious to
use a pen in public it's an easy sell.
We know that inhaling smoke, asbestos, even chalk dust is bad for
your lungs. How can powdered insulin be any better? That's ok, when
your lungs are full of lesions, they will happily sell you
chemotherapy drugs. Maybe the IV bags and tubing will come in three
exciting translucent designer colors...
-B
W. Baker
: All valid points. You do have insight into my underlying intentions.
: The question that gnaws at me is: why are diabetics, as a group, so
: complacent? More to the point, what does it take to to get people
: motivated to stick up for themselves instead of just sitting back and
: allowing the corporate ghouls to treat them as nothing more than a
: vertical market?
diabetic represent a large cross section of the population and from some
accounts, a larger proportion of minority and poor people who look for
cheap, easy food choices and may not be amenible(sp?) to working at
controlling their disease and, even more importantly, have not been given
accurate and suffient education and follow-ups. Listen to peoole
interviewed on how they are going to vote, or on other important curent
events issues. How mmany spout cant or confused statements? Why should
they be any better in exercising the control adn dedicaation it takes to
keep this disease from doing terrible damage. Many even just assume the
damage is always a part of it, so why bother. many are to blame, bu tnot
this meter company.
Wendy
Midas.Mulligan
I would be interested in hearing your comments re "ADA/DA/DUK dietary
advice or the SMBG advice".
-B
percy
> Actually, it's the superficial vanity of the population that makes
> this possible. I don't know who disgusts me more, the predators or
> those who allow themselves to be preyed upon.
>
> The development, marketing, etc of products like this cost money.
> This cost passes through to the retail price and directly affects my
> wallet.
>
> So, thank for costing me money; money wasted on something of no real
> value while we continue on without a cure.
>
> If we continue to roll over and and debase ourselves by slobbering
> over such foolishness as colored meters, then we don't deserve a
> cure .We deserve amputation, blindness, kidney failure, heart disease
> and - of course - death.
>
> Maybe we should ask morticians to develop coffins in three exciting
> designer colors...
>
> -B
>
> On Sep 19, 6:50 pm, "bj" <bjone...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>> What do you want them to say? That they're sorry they released something you
>> consider so frivolous & unnecessary? That they will immediately cease doing
>> so & consult you in future releases? What? Why has this product so offended
>> you?
>> bj
>
Try looking at it through the eyes of a 4 year old that takes 5 shots a day.
Alan S
<bri...@btronics.com> wrote:
>I would be interested in hearing your comments re "ADA/DA/DUK dietary
>advice or the SMBG advice".
>
>-B
I keep spouting it every day:-)
My views on SMBG are based on practical experience learned
from Jennifer's "Test, test, test" advice which can be found
here: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
These blog entries are a bit long to repeat here in full and
probably give a fair idea of my views:
Diabetes Authorities and Diet
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/11/diabetes-authorities.html
Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2007/07/self-testing-and-type-2-management.html
which includes this rapid response to the poor paper by
Farmer et al in the BMJ:
"Impact of self monitoring of blood glucose in the
management of patients with non-insulin treated diabetes:
open parallel group randomised trial"
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/bmj.39247.447431.BEv1
"I am not a doctor. I am a type 2 diabetic patient who has a
keen interest in patient self-management of diabetes, and
who has spent far too much time over the past four years
discussing this with other diabetics around the world on the
net and personally. My only relevant publication is a
patient's view online at http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
This is not the first poorly performed study of blood
glucose testing techniques published in the past twelve
months, including one in my own country. All have suffered
from the same basic flaw. SMBG is pointless – as is any
testing of any sort – if the results are not used to either
confirm that things are as expected or to assess what
changes need to be made to improve the results next time.
However, if SMBG is used systematically to assess the
success of past treatments and to then make changes in those
treatments, in a continuously iterative method, it can be
spectacularly successful. I accept that BMJ readers will
consider anything I say as anecdotal; however I have seen it
happen hundreds of times over the past five years.
This study was a waste of time and effort because the
patients in the “most intensive” group were given no
training in evaluating their test results with a view to
improvement. In fact the basic premises of their training
doomed them to failure: “They were also given training and
support in timing, interpreting, and using the results of
their blood glucose test to enhance motivation and to
maintain adherence to diet, physical activity, and drug
regimens.” That was the worst thing they could have done -
to maintain adherence to their present regimens,
particularly diet. In fact they maintained it so well that
they hardly changed their poor HbA1c levels at all.
As an aside, for the authors to consider A1c's in the mid
7's as "reasonably well controlled" is appalling to me. I
would refer the authors to the EPIC Norfolk study which
found that "HbA1c was continuously related to subsequent all
cause, cardiovascular, and ischaemic heart disease mortality
through the whole population distribution, with lowest rates
in those with HbA1c concentrations below 5%. An increase of
1% in HbA1c was associated with a 28% (P<0.002) increase in
risk of death " BMJ 2001;322:15 [Full] ( 6 January )
Now, back to SMBG. The single most important thing that the
patient can do at home is modify diet. They should not
change medications without doctor’s advice, there are
realistic limits to the exercise they can add to their
routine – but they can make dramatic changes in blood
glucose levels with a diet modified by feed-back from
post-prandial peak blood glucose levels.
I, and many of my friends around the world, have been
following a systematic testing regimen that works for some
years now. It is intensive in the initial stages, then
becomes much more relaxed once individuals have created
their own personal databases of foods and activities, so we
know what foods and activities will cause blood glucose
spikes (at the peak, not necessarily at two hours), and
which won’t. It’s as simple as that.
I challenge the authors of this paper – or any other
researchers for that matter, to repeat the study but train
the “most intensive” group as follows:
Eat, then test after eating at your peak spike time and if
blood glucose levels are too high then review what you ate
and change the menu next time. Then do that again, and
again, and again until what you eat doesn’t spike you. You
will get some surprises, particularly at breakfast time. The
so-called "heart-healthy" breakfast is NOT for most type
2's. Similarly, you will find variations through the day -
the same thing will have different effects at breakfast,
lunch, dinner and supper
As you gradually improve your blood glucose levels, review
the resulting way of eating to ensure adequate nutrition,
fibre etc are included and adjust accordingly. Test, review,
adjust until you have a flexible and interesting menu that
is nutritious but does not “spike” your post-prandial blood
glucose; a menu you can follow for the rest of your life.
Studies such as the one in question are meaningless if the
SMBG is not performed systematically and with a defined
purpose."
Midas.Mulligan
Exubera is contraindicated in individuals under 18 years of age. To
me, further evidence that it is a Bad Idea (tm).
Midas.Mulligan
With all due respect, you're kinda making my case. Sheep get
slaughtered. If you're diabetic, you can't afford to be a sheep. You
gotta stand up and refuse to "bleat with the herd".
-B
Midas.Mulligan
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:08:14 -0700, "Midas.Mulligan"
>
> >I would be interested in hearing your comments re "ADA/DA/DUK dietary
> >advice or the SMBG advice".
>
> >-B
>
> I keep spouting it every day:-)
>
> My views on SMBG are based on practical experience learned
> from Jennifer's "Test, test, test" advice which can be found
> here:http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
>
> These blog entries are a bit long to repeat here in full and
> probably give a fair idea of my views:
>
>
> Self-Testing and Type 2 Managementhttp://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2007/07/self-testing-and-type-2-man...
>
> which includes this rapid response to the poor paper by
> Farmer et al in the BMJ:
>
> "Impact of self monitoring of blood glucose in the
> management of patients with non-insulin treated diabetes:
> open parallel group randomised trial"http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/bmj.39247.447431.BEv1
>
> "I am not a doctor. I am a type 2 diabetic patient who has a
> keen interest in patient self-management of diabetes, and
> who has spent far too much time over the past four years
> discussing this with other diabetics around the world on the
> net and personally. My only relevant publication is a
>
> This is not the first poorly performed study of blood
> glucose testing techniques published in the past twelve
> months, including one in my own country. All have suffered
> testing of any sort - if the results are not used to either
> glucose levels with a diet modified by feed-back from
> post-prandial peak blood glucose levels.
>
> I, and many of my friends around the world, have been
> following a systematic testing regimen that works for some
> years now. It is intensive in the initial stages, then
> becomes much more relaxed once individuals have created
> their own personal databases of foods and activities, so we
> know what foods and activities will cause blood glucose
> spikes (at the peak, not necessarily at two hours), and
> which won't. It's as simple as that.
>
> researchers for that matter, to repeat the study but train
> the "most intensive" group as follows:
>
> Eat, then test after eating at your peak spike time and if
> blood glucose levels are too high then review what you ate
> and change the menu next time. Then do that again, and
> again, and again until what you eat doesn't spike you. You
> will get some surprises, particularly at breakfast time. The
> so-called "heart-healthy" breakfast is NOT for most type
> 2's. Similarly, you will find variations through the day -
> the same thing will have different effects at breakfast,
> lunch, dinner and supper
>
> As you gradually improve your blood glucose levels, review
> the resulting way of eating to ensure adequate nutrition,
> fibre etc are included and adjust accordingly. Test, review,
> adjust until you have a flexible and interesting menu that
> is nutritious but does not "spike" your post-prandial blood
> glucose; a menu you can follow for the rest of your life.
>
> Studies such as the one in question are meaningless if the
> SMBG is not performed systematically and with a defined
> purpose."
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Thanks, interesting. My situation tends to the opposite. Being T1, I
shoot Humalog right before meals. I'm likely to take a post-prandial
dip and creep up afterwards as the H hits hard and prematurely wears
off.
A1c is such a trade off. Sure, keeping it low will help to stave off
complications, but if you pass out behind the wheel you might never
have a chance to find out if your strategy would have worked.
-B
Donald Sessler
they can afford to give away testors like a razor company can give away
razors so people buy blades. We are both diabetics and my wife likes the
pink testor which we shall buy (less than $20) and give our "old" testor to
a relative just diagnosed as a diabetic.
Tiger Lily
wonder how many people would be buying meters for that price!?
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MI
because they were so expensive. Four years later I was given 24 hours to
obtain one.
Martha T2 Canada
On 9/25/07 7:24 AM, in article 5lsk0qF...@mid.individual.net, "Tiger
Tiger Lily
bought my meter
the test strips where you put a drop of blood on them, waited a while, then
blotted the test strip and checked it against the colour chart on the side
of the vial cost $55/50 of them......... the test strips for the meter cost
$55/50........ i bought the meter and ate the cost (insurance didn't cover
strips or meters back then)
i'm adult onset type 1 (went from 135 lbs to 87 lbs in 3 weeks)
"MI" <quilch...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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William C Biggs MD
meter is the inability to download the results.
Our office downloads everyone's meter to help with pattern management.
Without a download capability, we won't be recommending what is otherwise a
fine meter.
William C Biggs MD FACE
"Midas.Mulligan" <bri...@btronics.com> wrote in message
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bj
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>I couldn't care less about the color options, but a serious omission on
>this meter is the inability to download the results.
>
> Our office downloads everyone's meter to help with pattern management.
>
> Without a download capability, we won't be recommending what is otherwise
> a fine meter.
>
> William C Biggs MD FACE
>
Even a non-downloadable meter has its uses.
Even if you usually use a d/l one.
I carry the mini when I'm running. Whether it's the size or the shape or
what, I can fit it in my fanny pack (along with the other stuff I need with
me, like money & ID, phone, purell, extra kleenex, etc. etc. etc) without a
struggle. I'm not always running near home or my car -- sometimes I have to
carry everything (including a snack) with me. I also find the mini easy to
use standing up with no table or anything, easier than my other Lifescan
models -- don't know why, it just is.
There was one event where I was going to have to carry everything in my
pockets, no packs or water carriers or anything allowed. I bulged a bit,
but got it all to work (though not as comfortably as with a pack). Ended up
being sick that day & not going, but I was ready to cope with the
restrictions even if I wasn't happy about them (there was a lot of grumbling
about it among the runners).
*Even if* my doctor wanted to d/l all my readings, there would still be some
on this carry-around meter & she'd just have to accept that. :-)
And they might be some of the more interesting readings, too, being in
relation to some serious exercise.
bj
William C Biggs MD
It is smaller, AND downloadable.
WCB
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Donald Sessler
determine, it's accurate.
"William C Biggs MD" <MIQMRB...@spammotel.com> wrote in message
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William C Biggs MD
We give away Freestyles just like we give away One Touches. You can get
either for free. That is how they sell strips.
The biggest difference is the Flash is downloadable, has a little flashlight
in it, and is smaller.
All features the One Touch model lacks. Strips prices are about equivalent.
I'd still go with the Flash, even if you don't download.
Unless you need those designer colors. Maybe there WAS a method to that
madness.
WCB
"Donald Sessler" <sloopo...@opto.net> wrote in message
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man de hu
Alan S <loralgtwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Personally, I couldn't care less if my meter is iridescent
> fluoro vomit green as long as it shows me my BG's with
> reasonable repeatability and accuracy.
>
> However, I think you've turned a tiny molehill into Everest.
Folks,
I BEG your pardon. For me it's more importantt that the LifeScan soft
for dling their meters is for Windoze only. I fail to see why they want
to force me to fatten Gate$$$'s wallet even more; ain't he rich enough?
:-((
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Alan S
<man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <gu9cf3pklf6hhuci0...@4ax.com>,
> Alan S <loralgtwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally, I couldn't care less if my meter is iridescent
>> fluoro vomit green as long as it shows me my BG's with
>> reasonable repeatability and accuracy.
>>
>> However, I think you've turned a tiny molehill into Everest.
>
>Folks,
>
>I BEG your pardon. For me it's more importantt that the LifeScan soft
>for dling their meters is for Windoze only. I fail to see why they want
>to force me to fatten Gate$$$'s wallet even more; ain't he rich enough?
>:-((
>
Wow! Either you are an exceedingly slow typist or your ISP
is running a tad slow.
Just for the record and context, here is the full post you
just replied to. Take particular note of the date:
"On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:11:30 -0700, "Midas.Mulligan"
<bri...@btronics.com> wrote:
>
>Actually, it's the superficial vanity of the population that makes
>this possible. I don't know who disgusts me more, the predators or
>those who allow themselves to be preyed upon.
>
>The development, marketing, etc of products like this cost money.
>This cost passes through to the retail price and directly affects my
>wallet.
>
>So, thank for costing me money; money wasted on something of no real
>value while we continue on without a cure.
>
>If we continue to roll over and and debase ourselves by slobbering
>over such foolishness as colored meters, then we don't deserve a
>cure .We deserve amputation, blindness, kidney failure, heart disease
>and - of course - death.
>
>Maybe we should ask morticians to develop coffins in three exciting
>designer colors...
Personally, I couldn't care less if my meter is iridescent
fluoro vomit green as long as it shows me my BG's with
reasonable repeatability and accuracy.
However, I think you've turned a tiny molehill into Everest.
I doubt that coloured meters affect the cost of our testing
by a thousandth of one cent per test. And if coloured meters
are the thing that gets just one diabetic using a meter,
shallow as that diabetic may be, who may not have done when
they were black and boring then I applaud the improvement.
If you want to tilt at windmills, there are plenty of
worth-while targets to aim at. Just two to start you off -
ADA/DA/DUK dietary advice or the SMBG advice from those same
organisations. Or, if your windmill of choice is the meter
manufacturers then have a go at the price of strips rather
than the colour of meters."
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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meter is if it works right and helps me control my blood sugar and life scan
has been very good to me giving me a new meter free every year. Now strips
are expensive so if they could come down a tad would be nice but medicare
covers all that for me so cannot complain.news:guqtq319493033e09...@4ax.com...